I have seen the LDS reel for the Hearth Rolls and would not recomend them to anyone. They only listed the surname (sometimes initial) in a county; there is no way of pinning down a closer geographic connection than the county which means that you already knew your people were in that county to have been looking there. I also rented a census of Fermanagh (1821?) which listed 90 families from a population of approximately 25,000. If your names happen to be among the 90 you are home free but it is not a very good way to invest your money. Don Holmes donaldh@golden.net Ontario

I am looking at a list of names of people who were applying for Registry (to vote) at Enniskillen in 1839. (This is copied from a Fermanagh newspaper, btw) In the first column it gives the name, description and residence. The 2nd column is headed "On what right claiming", referring to claiming the right to vote, I guess. However, there are different categories listed in this second column, for instance: Rentcharger, Leaseholder, and Freeholder. My question: what is the difference between a Rentcharger and a Leaseholder? I thought to vote you needed to own land worth 10 pounds or more. (There is another column for value of land.) So is a Leaseholder someone who is leasing to another? Then what is the difference between leasing and charging rent? Anyone know? Janet C-S

I have noted that the "Spinning Wheel Premium List" for County Sligo, dated 1798? is available thru LDS microfilm from Salt Lake City. This is listed on the GenConnect Page at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5327/sligo/sligomr.htm Does Fermanagh have a GenConnect Web Page? They also list Penders Census of Ireland dated 1659 as Microfilm 925648 and the Hearth Money Rolls of 1665 (@Irish Manuscripts Commission, 1967). Haven't had any experience with these lists.

Belinda This is a wonderful resource you are making available to all of us.. however I can't work out an abbreviation: re: Extract 3: >>Folliot,John. Fillenn. Gentleman. Can you tell me where Fillenn. refers to please: Thanks Jan Hart janhart@webleicester.co.uk

In a message dated 3/14/99 8:40:30 PM, donaldh@golden.net wrote: <<I also rented a census of Fermanagh (1821?) which listed 90 families from a population of approximately 25,000. If your names happen to be among the 90 you are home free but it is not a very good way to invest your money. >> Most of the 1821 census was destroyed by fire, so the 90 names are the crispy bits left! Lucky the person whose family happened to come from that parish (was it Aghalurcher?) but otherwise, outta luck! Janet C-S

My g grandfather CHARLES KERR was born to PATRICK KERR and CATHERINE(nee TERRY).He arrived in Brisbane,Australia on 26/5/1863 on ship"Golden Dream".He married MARY ELLEN WHELAN(b1844,Nurney,Co Kildare) on 22/9/1867 in Toowoomba. 1.Any info on Charles' siblings and remaining family? 2.Any info on PATRICK and CATHERINE re date of marriage and respective dates of death? 3.Any info on PATRICK'S forebears? 4.Was CATHERINE from same County and if so what available info? Sincere thanks Danny Kerr in Australia

PAGE. 101. CALDWELL.-See Gallogly. CAMPBELL.-Eb. Jas. C., im. his f. Hugh C., wdtl. Mar.28, 1780, a. 88 y. Hl. also body of Alice C., w. to ad..Hugh, wdtl. Dec.29, 1785, a. 84 y. Also tm. Dorothy, the bel. w. of David C., wdtl. 11 Mar. 1843, a. 50 y. Also t.m David C., wdtl. Sept. 18, 1849, a. 62 y. CAMPBELL.-Hlb.Robt.C., wdtl. July, 18. 1783. a. 62 y. Tesb.me. Ann C., his w. Hib. of the said Ann. wd., Feb, 26, 1799., a. 71 y. CHAMPION.-Eb. Wm. C., im. Jas.C., of Athleague, Co. Ros., wdtl., 3 Mar. 1813. in the 35 th y of his a. {Hs.} CAR.-See THORNHILL. CARSON.-Eb.Wm. C., im. his f. John C., wdtl. Oct. 26, 1823. a. 61 y. Also Margaret C. his w. wdtl. May 6, 1838, a. 72 y. CARSON.-Sm. Rebecca C., wdtl. 27 Dec. 1838, a. 22 y. Also her m. Rebecca C., d. 7 Jan. 1889,a. 90 y. and Jane MONTGOMERY, her sister, d. 7 May, 1869, a. 84 y. Heb. xi. 13 pt. CARSON.-Coat of Arms- The motto seems to be "Quis separabit" { almost illegible}. - Here rest r. David C. He d. Aug., 22, 1841, a. 65. PAGE=102. CAUTHERS.-Em. Jas. C., of Waterinerry, wdtl. Apr. 11, 1845, a. 60 y. Also Margret his w. wd. Dec. 27 1854. a. 70 y . Rev. xiv. 13. Eb. their son Jas.C., of New York, America. CAUTHERS.-See Edmondson. CLARK.-Hib. Alex. C., of E., wd. July 12. 1774, { many illegible words follow.} And S..... w. of ad. Geo. C. d. May, 25, 1800. a. 68 y. Also Alex. C., d. April, 1. 1826 a. 62 y. CLARK.-E.ml. Wm. C., of E. wd. 21 April, 1811, a. 40 y. Also his inf. child Geo., a. 7 mnths. And Frances Sarah his dau., wd. 24 May, 1829, a. 17 y. {At.} CLARK.-Im. Saml. C., 35 y. manager of the Ulster Bk. Branch, Enniskillen, d. 10 July, 1880, a. 63 y. {Obelisk} CLEARY.-Sm. Rev. Rich. P.C., A.M. a laborious Curate of this Parish for 10 v., wdtl. 9 Feb. 1845, a. 56 y. A few friends who valued him while living and lament his death have erected this tomb over his remains to record their affection and his worth. CLEGG.-Wm. C., a. 23 y., d. 4 Jan. 1824. {Hs.} CLEGG.-Eb. Robt. C., im. his m. Sidney C., wdtl. on the ... day Mar., 183? a. 68 y. Also his f. Joseph C., .. on the 18th Mar. 1842, a. 85 y. And Anne C. his s., d. Feb. 8 1868, a. 76 y. Also abn. Robt., C., dtl. Oct. 23 ... a. 78 y. {Railing.} CLIFFORD.-See CROOK. CONNOLEY.-{Inniskilling Castle.} Eb. Sergt. C., of 27th Regt. of Enniskillen Foot im. his w. Elizabeth C., wdtl. Aug. 21. 1798, a. 34 y. [Hs.} CONNOR.-Sm. Wm. C., I. of Belfast, wdtl, 7 June, 1803, a. 22 y. And Matilda POWER, wd. 9 Mar., 1808., a. 3 y. COOMBER.-See Kirkpatrick. COPELAND.- Sm. Sarah C., wdtl. 12 Sept., 1826. in the 28th y. of her a. Also of Anne E. C., a. 2 y. And John H. C., a. 3 mths. Also Matilda C., wdtl. 31 Mar. 1834, in the 26th y. of her age. COPELAND.-In sure and certain hope of a Resn. to Etern. life through the mercy of God by Jesus Christ Rests the mortal part of Elizabeth C., dau. of the I. Mr. Wm. HARPUR, of Drumlarney, Co. Cavan, wd. at Lucan, 9 Jan., 1828, in the 37th y. of her a. Prov. xxxi. 26. Also 0f Hugh C., wdtl. 14 Nov. 1841, in the 62nd y. of his a. COPELAND.-In affect., remb. of Hugh C., of E., wdtl. 13 Nov. 1881, a. 66 y. {Hs.} CORRY.-Ulr.Fitz Wm. C., d. Oct. 19. a.. 60 y. 1799 Eb. Fitz Wm. C., Junr. COTMAN.-Here lyeth the body of Mary COTMAN who dyed the 17 of July 1689 and here lyeth ?izabeth cot.. who dy. ....anevary 1691. CRAVEN.-Eb. I. Comp. 1st Batt. 17th Regt. im. Pte. David.C., a. 28 y., of ab. Comp., wd. at E., 16 Jan 1869.{Hs.} PAGE.103. CRAWFORD.-Etm.Robt. C., Esq., Atty. by his f. Robt. C. of this Town as a trib. of afftn. due to his Vertues & the Many amiable Qualities he possessed as a s. & b. wdtl. May 25, 1818, a. 22 y. Also his dau. Rebeckah C., wdtl. June 23, 1823, a. 27 y. CRAWFORD.-See Evans. CROFT.-Ul. int. r. Capt. Geo. C., I. of 6th or Inniskilling Dragoons, wdtl. Monday, 4 Dec. 1809, a. 21 y. CROOK.- Here lyeth the body of John. CROOK departed this life Febuary ye 15 ino 1710.{Hs.raised letters.} CROOK.- See Moor. CROOK.-Eb. Danl. Clifford im. his dau. Mary CROOK. wdtl. ye 7th Jan. 1786., a. 29 y. Also 3 of her children. { Hs.} CROOKE.-E.L.A. gives the foll., which is not now to be found; HLB. RICH, C., WD. THE 3 DAY OF FEB. ANNO 1687. HIS AGE 56. { rAISED LETTERS.} CROOKE.-Eb. Jas. C. im. his w. Jane C., wdtl. Dec. 3. 1823, a. 37 y. {Hs.} CROOKE.-Eb. Mary C. im. her bel. h. Thos. C., wdtl. Aug. 21. 1858, a. 42 y. His favorate motto was "A sinner saved by grace." Prov.x.7. Also im. ab. Mary C., wdtl. Dec. 18, 1870. a. 49 y. And also Elizabeth C., 5th dau., wdtl. 10 Apr. 1869, a. 13 y. "God is Love." {Railing.} CROOKE.- Eb. Jas. C., im. his w. Jane C., wd.,...{Hs., broken.} CROWE.-In affect. remb. of Thos. C., wd. 18 Mar. 1880, a. 74 y. And of his w. Mary Ann C., wd. 29 Jan. 1865. a. 50 y. Also of their children Wm. C., wd. 19 Aug. 1867. a. 25 y. Mary Jane C., wd. 20 July, 1873, a. 37 y. John & Wm. Henry C., wd., in infancy.Song of Sol. ii. 17 pt. {Hs.} CROZIR.-Heart and Arrows- here lyeth the body of John CROZIR who departed this life october the 24 in the 67 year of his age, 1717. {Hs., at foot emblems of mortality.} {This was John Crozier, jun. of Magheradunbar; will proved in Dioc. of Clogher, Jan. 1717.18.} CROZIER.-Im. Wm. C., jun., I. of Lower Dunbar, wd. 18 Jan., 1808, a. 47 y. And of Geo. his s., wd. 12 Jan. 1808, a. 2 y. CROZIER.-Hlb. of the undermentioned Anne.C., wd. Jan. 5, 1845. a. 52 y. As worthy Characters shd. bear a good Report, sacred therefore be this Humble Monument tm. Francis C., Esq., wdtl., 23 July, 1800. a. 49, on his passage from Bombay in the E. Inies. By his death his family have sustained an irrep. loss & Society deprived of a good Member, This trib. to his Worth is at the desire of his afflicted wid. Anne.C. CUE.-Hib. Thos. C., wdtl. June 7, 1787, a. 13 y. Wm. C., jun., dtl. June 12, 1765. Mary C., Alis Ellison, w. to John C., Sat., Feb. 11, 1797, a. 58 y. An affect. w. & tender m. CURTIS.-Tm. Robert C., Plumber, wdtl. 9 May, 1829, a. 40 y. Rebecca Wilson d. July 25, 1886. From Belinda,P.S.We lost football.

What is the Spinning Wheel lists for Fermanagh? Thomas Lester Wilson twilson@pathwaynet.com

Hi everybody, I've been reading the List for some time. I guess its time for me to jump in. My great grandfather Francis SWINDLE,of Cushrush Island,parish of Killesher,married Mary Anne LITTLE,of Carnagilta,on July 26,1854,in Tempo Church of Ireland,parish of Enniskillen.Family information indicates that Francis had a brother,John SWINDLE, who lived at Attybaron,parish of Aghalurcher.(only information I have about John). Mary Anne LITTLE had four brothers:Samuel,John,James and Robert,and a sister .(I have no information about anyone except Robert). Robert LITTLE resided at Cushwash Mills,parish of Aghalurcher. I know Francis and Mary Anne SWINDLE had one son,my grandfather,Francis SWINDLE,b.June 1856,d.December 1921,buried in Aghavea Cemetery in Brookborough Town. I'm seeking birth and death information for Francis and Mary Anne SWINDLE. I also want to know if Francis SWINDLE ,my grandfather,had any siblings. Does anyone have information that can help me fill in the blanks? Jim Swindell

Does anyone have a list of the LDS microfilms for Co. Fermanagh? Specifically, I am looking for the film that may cover Births/Baptisms/Marriages for Inishmacsaint Parish from 1815 to 1850. I know of the following earlier films: 0992663 Baptisms Derrygonnelly 0258519 Baptisms Churchill 0979704 Parish Registers Churchill 0258520 Baptism and Marriages, Inishmacsaint 1801-1815 F100158 ??? D436 Deeds Thanks! Bill Barber email to: carv22@email.mot.com

Does anyone have access to the Clogher Record or any other source of transcriptions in the Agulurcher (sp?) cemetary? I am looking specifically for a tombstone transcription for Neeson, James and Jane. Any help greatly appreciated.

Has anyone any experience with the Spinning Wheel lists for Fermanagh? Can anyone tell me whether the names are mostly Catholic or Protestant or both? What info does the list give? Janet C-S

Has any one information regarding the genealogy of William COLE of Enniskillen, County of Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland by Sir Wm. Segar and W. Penson and/or is working on this COLE line? Henry B. Cole 60049@aol.com Seattle, USA

For a discussion of the myth of the "Black Irish" see: http://www.hypertext.com/blackirish/ All the best, Janet C-S

-----Original Message----- From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda@interworx.com.au> To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 13, 1999 8:31 PM Subject: EXTRACT.8. FROM FERMANAGH FICHE. >PAGE.98. > >11.-IN THE GRAVEYARD. >ACHESON.-Tm.John.A., wdtl.31 Jan.,1871,aged.75. Also of Francis A., W, of >above,wdtl.11 Feb.,1826,a.75 y. >ANDERSON.-Sm.Mary the bel. w. of Fras. A., Pte. of 92nd Highlanders, wdtl. >25 Nov. 1846, a. 35 y. Tseb. her h. as a testl. of his afftn. {Hs.} >ANNON.-Tseb. Eleanor. A., Im. her h. Chas. A., wdtl. 22 Dec,1807, a. 42 y. >ARMSTRONG.-Hlb.Joseph A., wdtl. Aug. 14, 1782, a. 45 y. >ARMSTRONG.-Ul. mortal r. Ann A., w of Mathew A. She d. 28 May 1823, a. 78 y. >Also r. Matthew A., wd. 28 May, 1828, a. 95 y. Jane A., d. 19 Nov. 1855, a. >69 y. Elizabeth A. d. 19 Oct., 1863, a. 85 y. >ARMSTRONG.-U. is int. b. of Capt. Matthew A., wd. 10 June, 1827, a. 49 y. >Also Margt., A., d. 19 Mar., 1866, a. 78 y. >ARMSTRONG.-Hib.Rev.Gustavus A., wdtl. Mar. 25, 1832, a. 74 y. He was for >more than 40 y. a useful Preacher of the Gospel.-Dan. xii.3. >ARMSTRONG.-Eb. Thos. A. im. of his f. Wm. A., wd. 19 Apr., 1869. Also his m. >Cath., wd. 20 Jan., 1872. His sister Sarah d. 30 Nov. 1874. and his brother >Jas. d. 1 Jan., 1854. >ARTHUR.-Sm. Mary, bel. w. of Wm. A., wdtl, at Lakemount, E., 8 Apr., 1867, >a. 54 y. {At.} >BAKER.-Sm. Hugh Percy B., Capt. in Her Majesty's 5 Fusiliers, 4 th s. of Lt. >Col. William Massy B. of Fortwilliam, Co. Cork. b. 21 June, 1817, d. at E., >8 Jan. 1846. In coelo quies. >PAGE=99. >BALL.-See Graham, 1747. >BALL.-Eb. Rich.B., of E., Im. his w. Anne B., wdtl. May 11 1826, a. 40 y. >Rich. B. d. 10 Jan., 1863. a. 78 y. Jane B., his w. d. Aug. 13, 1866. >BALL.-Eb. Rich. B., of E., im. his m. Eleanor B., wd. Jan. 30,, 1829. a. 84 >y.. {Hs.} >BALL.-See Moreland and Earls. >BAXTER.-Sm. Frances Jane, eldest d. of Liddle { and Eliza B.} wdtl. Jan 5th, >1835, a. 21 y. she hath come up and is cut Down like a { flower }, but her >Hope in God shall not be Disappointed.- Rev. xiv. 13 pt. {Completed from >E.L.A.} >BAYLY.-Sm. Rev. Benj. B., Wesln. Meth. Minister, who ent. into eternal rest >10 Aug., 1879, in his 72nd y. of his a. and 47th of his Ministry. And of his >bel. w. Eliza W. B. wfaJ. 24 May, 1874, in 68th y. of her a.-Prov. x. 7. Eb. >their loving children. {Hs. with railing.} >BEACOM.-Eb. Robt. B. im. his wd. Polly B., wdtl. Jan. 2, 1810, a. 38 y. and >4 of her children. {Hs.} >BEACOM.-Eb. Jas. B., im. his w. Sarah B. wdtl. Nov. 17, 1844. a. 41 y. And >also ab. Jas. B., of Carrickmacmea, wdtl. Dec. 18, 1879, a. 76 y. Also his >bel. d. Jane B., wdtl. Nov. 23, 1880, a. 41 y. >BEACOM.-Eb. John B., Belleek, Ilm. his affect f. Robt. B., Killynure, wdtl. >30 Jan., 1875, a. 80 y. >BEACOM.-Sm. Henry B., Killanure, wdtl. 14 Aug. 1881, a. 90 y. Also his bel. >w, Annie, wd. 13 Jul 1860, a. 57 y.-Prov. x. 7 pt. { Hs. } >BEATTY.-Em. Lieut.Geo. Clark B., of 44th Regt., wdtl. Apr. 3, 1815, a. 26 y. >Mary B. d. Jan. 13, 1841, a. 79 y. >BEATTY.-Eb. Lieut. B., of Salopark, im his w. Eliza. B., wdtl. Oct. 4, 1830, >in the 47th y. of her a. Also sm. Isabella Jane, eldest dau., of ab. and w. >of Major W. Mathias, 62nd Regt., wd. at Cavan on 21 Sept., 1847, in the >31st y. of her a. >BELL.-Sm. Rev. Chas. Lucas B., dtl. 1 July, 1799. a. 48 y.{ Few men in our >age had been adorned with so much learning.} Also Margt. B. his w. dtl. 6 >Dec., 1817, a. 60 y. {Alas1 SHE HAS GONE THE APPOINTED JOURNEY, WHO HAS LEFT >VERY FEW WOMEN ON EARTH TO IMITATE HER MANIFOLD VIRTUES.} Also Geo. Rodney >B., late Capt. 87th Royal Irish Fusiliers, d. 26 May, 1847, a. 68 y. >BELL.-Im. Rodney B., Solier., wd. 5 Sept., 1853. a. 26 y. >BELL.-Eb.Rev. C.L.B., R.N., tm, his bel. w. Henrietta Anna Cath., wd. in the >Lord, 23 June, 1863, a. 38 y. Died 14 Jan 1865 Rev. Chas. Lucas B., R.N., a. >42 y. And on 3 Oct. 1869. Henrietta Edith Alice, eldest dau. of ab. a. 13 >1/2 y. >BELL.-Sm. Robt. B., a. 23 y. John Davis, a. 26 y. and John Starbrook, a. 23 >y. Ptes, 2nd Batt. XIX. Regt., who were drowned in L.Erne, 28 Feb. 1863. Ts. >is placed over their grave by the Offrs., Non-Com. Offrs. and Ptes. of 2nd >Batt. XIX. Regt, stationed at E. as a meml. of fond est. and deep felt >sorrow for their untimely end. "In the midst of life we are in death." >BENISON.-Sm. Jessie the bel. dau. of Qr. Master and Mary B., of 31 st ? 51st >Regt., wdtl. 4 Aug. 1851, a. 1 y. 10 ... and 11 days. { Hs.} >BENT.-See Graham, 1851. >BERKELY.-Eb. the Presbyterian Congregation of E., im. their l. much bel. >Minister Rev. Thos. B., wd. 8 Dec. 1836, in the 9th month of his Ministry, >a. 23 y. {At.} >BETTY.-Chris. B. has placed this s. here im. his dau. Elizabeth B., wd. 17 >Oct., 1806. Also his dau. Jane. B., wd. 30 Dec. 1818. >BETTY.-Hlb. John B., wdtl.Oct. 25, 1817, a. 24 y. Sm. Chris. S.B.,Esq., >wdtl. 7 Aug., 1838, a. 42 y. >BETTY.-Sm. Sterwart B., wdtl. 13 May, 1817. Tteb. his loving w. >BETTY.-Sm. Sarah B., wdtl. Jan. 28, 1832, a.70 y. Sm. Chris. B., wd. 28 >Sept., 1825, a. 61 y. >BETTY.-Eb. Rich. B., im. his bel. w. Mary, wdtl. Oct. 20 1848, a. 35 y. Also >his dau. Eliza, a. 8 y. >BETTY.-Eb.Belinda B., tm. her bel. h. Wm. B., wd. at Lowtherstown, Aug. 16, >1853, a. 53 y. >BINGHAM.-Tm. David B., wdtl. 20 Jan. 1865, a. 58 y. Also his bel. w. Mary >B., wd. 6 Feb., 1865, a. 52 y. Tteb. their chn. Also Margaret their youngest >dau., wdtl. 30 Sept, 1866. a. 18 y. Christ her hope. >BLACKMORE.-Eb. Mary Anne B., im. her bel. h. Joseph Lever B., late of Royal >Eng. Dept., wdtl. Apr. 29, 1855, a. 35 y. Mary Anne, relict of J.L.B., and >youngest dau. of the late Jas. Scott, E., d. 7 Apr., 1877. >BLAKE,-To commemorate their of Frances Penelope B., wd. Mar. 25, 1812, a. >20 y. And also on the foll. day her infant dau. "Finis." {Coffin shaped >stone; E.L.A. gives as BEAKE.} >BLAND.-MARIA BLAND. This lovely bud so young And fair Cald hence by Early >doom Just Came To Show how Sweet a Flower In paradice Would Bloom. Died Nov. >4. 1823, a. 16 months. {Hs.} >BLAND.-Em. Chas. B., wdtl. 20 Nov. 1837, a. 57 y. >BLEAKLY.-Eb. Guy and Elizabeth B., im. their bel. s. Robt. wd. 7 Aug. 1879, >a. 9 1/2 y. {Hs.} >PAGE. 101. >BOYD.-HERE; LYETH; THE; BODY;OF; JOHN; BOYD; WHO; DEPARTED; THIS; LIFE; >APRIL; THE; 22; 1724; AGED 19 YEARS. { Raised letters; " MEMENTO " aRM WITH >SWORD AND DAGGER; eMBLEMS OF MORTALITY, & C. } >BRENAN.-Eb. Chas. B., Qr. Mr. 27 Inniskillings, tm. his s. J. Wm. d. 15 >Jan., 1876, a. 4 y and 4 months. {Hs.} >BROOKE.-Hlb. Marianne Emily B., wd. in infanct at Castle Coole, Jan. 17, >1815. "Death viewed the Treasure to the Desart given, Plucked the fair >Flower and planted it in Heaven." {Cradle-shaped sarcophagus of Portland >stone.} >BROWN.-Eb. Sarah B. im. her h. Wm. B., late of E., wdtl. Sept. 13, 1816, a. >64 y. >BROWNE.-Eb. Maria B. tm. of her h. Arthur Piggott B., late Capt. in H. My's >16th Regt. of Foot, wd. at sea on his passage from India, May 4. 1835. Also >his daus. Charlotte, wd. in E. Dec. 11, 1835. a. 2 1/2 y., and Mary Anne, >wd. Dec. 20, 1835, a 9 y. {Hs.} >BURGESS.-Sm. Jas. B., of Lachaboy, wd. 6 Oct. 1872, a. 51 y. And John B., d. >24 May, 1877, a. 43 y. Also Wm. B., d. 2 Jan. 1878, a. 33 y. >BURGESS.-Eb. John B., of Killeyvilly, tm. his bel. w. Barbara B., wd. 5 >June, 1874, a. 70 y. Also his s. John, wdtl. 25 Jan.. 1881, a. 35y. >BURROWES.-Cath.S.B., dau. of Rev. Dr. B., d. 18, Mar., 1815, a. 19 y. And >her niece Marianne ELRINGTON, dau. of the late Major Gen. Thos. G.E., d. May >16, 1810, a. 4 y. > from Belinda. > >

Dear Listers: PLEASE remember to use a useful subject line! AND please repeat the surnames in the body of the note as well. If you put names and dates ONLY in the subject line and then don't repeat it in the body, it makes it harder to read for people in Digest format. So what, you ask? Well, do you really want someone to miss something, esp if the person who missed it happens to have your family info? Good communications is the whole point, right? Janet C-S

I posted my ancestors earlier and made a mistake on a date of birth, so will repeat in brief: Jeremiah Elliott b 1780 (Said 1880 before!!) and his wife Ann Trotter b 1782 left Ireland for Quebec abt 1835/36. They brought their grown children and grandchildren. Arthur & Eleanor Bothwell Elliott were from Enniskillen the rest we don't know, but most likely the same place. George and Mary Bell also were married before with one child Wiloliam andrew b. 23 Aug 1834. These were my line. 5 Bothwell's married 5 Elliott's so if we find one we will find the other. One was married before coming. 2 Bell's married 2 Elliott's and one was married before they came. Although Arthur's Biography says they are from Enniskillen, I have some of the children of Jeremiah and Ann Trotter being born in Armagh, Antrim, Ulster and Fermanagh. So, maybe they moved around. Ledgend has it that we had "Spanish Blood" and were "Black Irish". Our grandfather's line happened to have dark hair and a look different than what you would think and Irish person would have. I would like to hear from any of you that have such a history. Sorry for the earlier error. Thank you for your wonderful information and comments. Bonnie -- For family names I am researching visit my Web Page: http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/robibn/

Quoting.....Bonnie & Merv Robillard <b.robillard@sk.sympatico.ca> >.............. >I would be interested in hearing from anyone that could tell me what >Enniskillen would have been like, why the may have left, and if there >were a lot of the above family names in that town. They would have been >Scottish I would imagine. How long would the Scottish people have been >in Ireland. > >We were said to have had "Spanish Blood" How might this have happened. >Were there Spanish people living in Fermanagh at that time? >............ Many Irishmen exiled themselves to the French and Spanish armies of Europe in the 1700s. That's one possibility. Not sure if any Scottish families did the same though. Some will say the Spanish blood came from the shipwrecked sailors of the failed invasion, but the few survivors were in a big hurry to get back home and I don't believe more than a handful remained in Ireland. Description of Enniskillen in 1837 is being sent by separate post. For more complete history of Fermanagh, try to find a copy of "The Fermanagh Story", by Peadar Livingstone. Scottish and English settlers were brought in to displace the Irish during the Plantation period of the mid 1600s, and maybe there were earlier settler programs. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net

Looking for info on the above families. Durnians originally from Tempo area. Neesons from the area of Drumbroughas North. Any help appreciated Jufas@aol.com

I assume you meant Jeremiah Elliott was born abt 1780, not 1880. I have many Elliots listed in my Dundas files and one Trotter. I have 2 Elliotts listed in my McBriens file. No Bells or Bothwell. John Trotter married Margaret Dundas 27 July 1809 Parish of Inishmacsaint Mary Jane Elliot m. Robert Dundas of Manger 13 Oct. 1892 Irvinestown Presbyterinan, Par. Derryvullan Elizabeth Elliot m. James Dundas of Manger 31 Dec. 1903 Parish of Inishmacsaint, Slavin Church, her father was John Elliot Annie Elliot m. Francis James Dundas 29 Oct. 1919 Parish of Inishmacsaint, He was the son of Moses Dundas and Sarah Young Phoebe Catherine Elliot m. Arthur Dndas 18 Feb. 1875 Parish of Devenish, Monea Church Christian Elliott m. Robert McBrine befor 1836 and lived at Ardees, had daughter Elizabeth28 Dec. 1806 Rowline Elliott m. Mary McBrine and lived at Upper Ardees and had son, John Elliott, born 26 Sept 1802. Yes, they were predominantly Scots who came in the Plantation of Ireland which started in 1608. In W.C. Trimble's book "Trimble's History of Enniskillen", pub. Wm. Trimble, 1919, pg. 200, he said: "Fermanagh was largely planted with moss-troopers from the Scottish border men used to fighting and cattle reiving; a tradition hath it that they were specially selected by reason of their training, to form a rampart against the Connaught border. Thus it is that we find Johnstons of Annandale in such profusion in the county, the Armstrongs, Elliots, Beattys (Beattock) in Dumfries, the Scotts, Nixons, Kirkpatricks, Grahams, Creightons, Maxwells, Moffetts, etc. Other Scotch names like those of Morrison, Campbell, Dundas, Cathcart, Mitchell, Gregg. Murray, Henderson, Irvine, Stewart will be found in the Muster Roll." That would imply that the Elliot surname came from Dumfries, Ayrshire, Scotland. Page 205-6 shows the Muster Roll of Fermanagh in 1630 and includes a Mortin Ellot and Thomas Trotter, Sword only, a Francis Trotter, Sword and Pike and a Rynyon Bell with "no armes". Actually, the summary of names in the Muster Lists included 33 Ellots, 6 Bells and 5 Trotters. That's all I have. Check the LDS microfilm 0258520 and Records at Enniskillen Town Hall as well as PRO in Belfast. -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie & Merv Robillard [mailto:b.robillard@sk.sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 12:06 PM To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Elliott-Trotter-Bell >From Enniskillen. Jeremiah & Ann Trotter Elliott b abt 1880, and their grown children