Here is a site for all Kennedys and it's spelling variations. It also has a new Kennedy Surname Web Ring for those who have Kennedy sites. http://www.rootsquest.com/~kennedy/ http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/lightyear/101/ Fred

http://www.kawartha.net/~jleonard/robinson.htm

Hello List, Would anyone have information of names of families who had membership in the Church of Ireland, Dungannon, County of Tyrone, Killyman Parish, for the years 1700-1750? Would there be such records? And where? Looking for my Rice family ancestors. Thanks, Bob Rice from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA

According to Jim Ryan's Irish Records: Sources for Family and Local History, records for the C of I parish of Killyman begin in 1741, and are in local custody. Irish World, the Heritage Centre (in Dungannon) has indexed them (but m. for 1845-1921) and will search them for a fee. Janet C-S

Janet wrote "Does anyone know of any books (or other sources) that show which townlands belonged to which estates? What I'd love to see if it exists, is a map of civil parish showing to whom townlands belonged. I'm especially interested in parishes of Devenish and Boho. " Sounds a great idea Janet. Don't know of any such but it ought to be easily done with a townland map and Griffiths Primary valuation. Maurice Cassidy

Bill I always thought that Whealt and Barr of Whealt were townlands. But they are not listed as such in the list on the PRONI website. They are both in the parish of Inishmacsaint. They are shown on the Ordnance Survey map 1:50,000 series number 17. My mother (OVENS) was born in that area and I have often heard her mention them. I have now found Whealt (Spelt Fweealt) in the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland - Parishes of Co. Fermanagh Vol. 2. "Along the south western shore of (Lower) Lough Erne a very beautiful and interesting strath of richly fertile soil, although now subdivided into townlands, is still (1834-5) known by no other name than Fweealt, an appelation highly appropriate, a magnificent rock 900 feet above its plain impending its southern boundary." Fweealt makes it easier to find the original Galic. Faoi Alt (pronounced fwhee alt). 'Faoi' means 'under'. Alt has a wide variety of meanings but the most appropriate in this context seems to be mountain or cliff. So Whealt means the land under the mountain and refers to that strech of land between the western end of Lower lough Erne and the cliffs to the south. These cliffs end at the Barr of Whealt. 'Barr' means 'top' in Gaelic. There are also Barrs of Bolusty More, Drumbadmeen and Slavin along the same series of cliffs. Ardies (Ardees) Upper and Lower are I believe adjacent townlands in the area of Whealt, Lower being nearer the Lough. They are both listed in the PRONI list of townlands, but only Upper is listed in the parish of Inishmacsaint on PRONI website. A mistake I think. Maurice Cassidy

We have never had weather like today on St. Patricks Day in all the years that I can remember.....it's beautiful. A real Summers day, don't even think we had as good over the last summer or two gone. None of those cheerleaders were blue with the cold..and I hope they were wearing sunblock <g> The parade in Dublin was good Do ye know that Dublin has always been famous for its' street processions. Whatever piece of literature you read about life in Ireland,for any part of it, whether it be general works or diaries by travellers they will always mention the way the poor could enjoy what they had, make the best of things..... You can take it that most of the following would have applied to the main town in any county and not just Dublin...... The following is from a number of sources: Webb: 'The Guilds of Dublin' describes the pageant/festival on Corpus Christi day in Dublin, put on by tradesmen: "A pageant that for sheer picturesqueness can scarcely have been excelled in any town in Europe. The pageant consisted, not of a series of tableaux vivants, but of a succesion of mysteries or miracle plays performed in the open on movable stages which were transported from street to street. The actors had for an audience all Dublin, every man, woman and child" This was an annual show put on by coopers, blacksmiths, tailors, shoemakers...and they had floats, plays, processions, music, mimicry and with the crowds lining their paths... Just like todays parade...but different from the Corpus Christi ones I remember mind you. O'Neill "Dublins 18th century trade processoins" says that "Trade processions took part in the city and were a great attractoin. In the 18th century when travelling was not so simple, crowds attended those pageants, even crossing from London for that purpose" >From Dublin Under the georges (I think) 1700-1800 "The great popular carnival of the period was Donnybrook Fair, which was held for a week every August...Tents were erected, formed of soods and wattles covered with quilts, old winnowing sheets, petticoats, or whatever else could be got. in these, benches were stretched along th esides, and doors down the centre to act as tables. in the best tents 'neat victuals' were provided - lumps of salt beef and cabbage, potatoes and Dublin Bay herrings - which were cooked on turf fires built up near the doors. For the 'quality' who came to see th e'curiosities' a cold round rump of beep was provided at 'double price'. Cattle and horses were sold at the fair, but no one would buy the latter tilll the owners had shown off their arts. Thus, there was plenty of jumping and rough riding and frequent tummblings - all considered part of the fun. In the evenings, dancing began to the music of pipes and fiddles and every one drunk or sober, took part. The noise of trumpets, drums, fiddles, whistles and popguns (which fond mothers had bestowed upon their children during the day) formed a suitable accompaniment to the fighting that ended the festivities. But, this fighting was not malicious or savage, being mostly with the shilelagh. no one was disfigured thereby rendering fit for a doctor, Barington says, small hurts were frequent but did not interfere with the song, dance, th frolicking or general good humour. A German prince Puckler-Muskau saw the fair in 1828 and said 'nothing indeed can be more natoinal. The poverty, the dirt and the wild tumult were as great as teh glee and meriment with which the cheapest pleasures can be enjoyed.....not teh slightest trace of English brutality was to be perceived; they were more ike French people, though their gaiety was mingled with more humour and more genuine good nature; both of which are natoinal traits of the Irish, and are always doubled by "potheen".' dancing, riding, drinking and love-making were all very well (Barington was told by a priest that more marriages were celebrated in Dublin the wek after the fair than in any two months during the rest of teh year), but the Donnybrook Fair was too noisy, with too much disturbance and so was declared a public nusiance in 1855.

And a Happy and Great St. Patricks Day to you All. >From one Irish to annother. Joyce

PAGE 104. DANE.-Em. Paul D., Esq. wdtl. 17 Mar.1800, a. 68 y. Also his s. Alex., a. 13 { who had his head cut off playing commons on the ice at Killyhevlin.- Two Ulster Manors, p. 415.} DANE.-Eb. Rich. D., of Killyhevlin. Esq., im. his sons Armor Lowry Corry D., wd. in infancy Dec. 11, 1826, and Daniel Auchinleck D., wd. 28 Oct., 1827, a. 5 y. {At.} DAVIS.-jOHN d. See Bell, 1863. DAY.-See Mylett. DEERING.-Tm. John D., Esq., Q.C., of Derrybrusk House in this Co., d. Dec. 23, 1839. a. 62 y. {At.} DENHAM.-Mrs.Mary D., {w. of Rev. J.} d. 24 Mar. 1793.Alas1 She possessed great worth ! O quam molliter ossa quiescant.} Partly illegible; completed from E.L.A. DRAKE.-Sm. Capt. J.J.C.D., 92nd Highlanders, who perished by the upsetting of a boat at Ballyshannon, May 18, 1847, in the 33rd y. of his a. Beloved and Respected. {He was fishing for the benefit of the poor-J.Brennan.} {Railing.} DUDGEON.-Mary, w. of John D., d. 15 Jan. 1817, a. 26 y. also her infant child, Joseph. DUFF.-Eb.Members of Orange Lodge No. 415 im. their Master, Peter D., wd. 28 Mar. 1840, Much regretted, a. 40 y. DUNCANSON.-Sm. Adam D., formerly of Dunfermlin, Scotland, and for many years Manager of the Ulster B... {Stone broken.} {A.D. was Manager of the Ulster Bank Branch in E. from it's opening in 1836 until his death in 1844. He was succeeded by Samuel CLARKE.} EARLS.-Tseb. Jas. E., of Aughaward, im. his f. Henery E., wdtl, 6 Nov., 1799, a. 67. {Hs.} EARLS.-Hlr. John. E., wdtl. 1 Aug. 1834, a. 71 y. {Hs.} EARLS {?}.-... Stone is Erected ... ... ..L.. of Aughaw.. ... His Son- Much broken-name might be Ball. ECHLLN.-Sm. Henry E., s. of Daniel Moore E., of Fitzwilliam Sq., Dub., d. Dec. 16, 1862, a. 64 y. Heb. iv.9. Also tm. Chas. Henry E., s. of Rev. Chas. Moore E., V. of Killinagh, Co. Cavan, & gs. of the ab. D.M.E., d. 15 Sept, 1870, a. 33 y. Gd is Love. Also tm. Fanny E., dau. of ab. D.M.E., d. Mar. 29, 1875, a. 74 y. Our Father- Thy will be done. EDMONSON.-Em. Henry E., of E. wdtl. Feb. 23, 1830, a. 58 y. I know that my Redeemer liveth. In this identic body I With eyes of flesh refined restored Shall see that selfsame Saviour nigh See for myself my smiling Lord. Eb. his dau. Letitia CAUTHERS, New York, America. EDMONSON.-? - On an old headstone beside above can be read Here lieth... ...of George.. m onson, who died ..9 of september...2..Aged..years. George EDMONSON of Enniskilling was Sidesman in 1698-99. PAGE. 105. ELLIOTT.-Sm. Wm. E., wdtl. 24 June 1846, a. 27 y. And of Osborne E., who was accidently drowned on 27 Aug. 1847, a. 22 y. Eb. the M'Kinley Orange Lodge No. 1539 as a mark of their sincere Respect for their deceased Brethren. ELLISON.-See Cue. ELRINGTON.-See Burrowes. EVANS.-Here lieth the body of John Evans who dyed September the 17 day 1698. Allso the body of James CRAWFORD who dyed 4 of July 1716, Hs., raised letters. FALLS.-Sm. Jane, wid of the l Patrick F., wd. 27 Feb., 1853, a. 70 y. FASSINDGE.-Argyllshire Highlanders. Im. Sergt-Major John F., 91st Highlanders, wd. at E., 16 July, 1876, a. 57 y. Eb. Offrs., Non-com. Offrs. & Men of Regt. as a mark of est. & respect. {Railing.} FAULKNER.-Eb. Cath. F. im. her bel. h. George F., wdtl. 5 Sept, 1845, a. 75 y. Also Cath, his w., at E., a. 76 y., d. 18 July, 1854. And Rich F. his s. wd. 20 Oct. 1879, a. 76 y. FAUSSETT.-See Wilson. FAWCETT.-John Jas. F., Assist. Surg. 62nd Regt., dtl. 29 May, 1827, a. 34 y. Tse. to his m. by his Bro. Offrs. in testy. of their est. and regard. FERGUSON.-Sm. John F., wdtl. Mar. 28, 1852, a. 54 y. FITZGERALD.-Eb. Martha F., im. her bel. h. Wm. F., I. of E., Merchant, wdtl. 20 Aug, 1844, a. ?5. In fond mem. of Robt. Paul Keys, wd. 23 June, 1864, a. 22 y., bel. and only s. of Robt. K., Solicitor, Fort Lodge, {At.., with railing.} FITZGERALD.-Im. Eleanor Eliza, and Wm. F. the infant chn. of Wm. and Martha F. of E., and their inf. s. John Fredk F. FLANAGAN.-Sm. Sarah, widow of Alex F., who at an advanced a. d. in the Lord,Sept., 1878. Ts. is raised by her dau. in dutiful and lov. remb. Job xix. 25. {Hs.} FOSTER.-Eb. Archd. F., of E., im. his bel. w. Jane, wdtl. 30 May, 1877, a. 60 y. Archd. F. d. 26 Jan., 1894, a. 86 y. {Hs.} FOSTER.-Im. Adam F., I. Segt-Major 35th Regt. and Ferm. Militia, d. 29 Nov. 1881, a. 73 y.{Hs.} FRITH.-Coat of Arms- Here lieth the body of Robert Frith who died Sept. 7th 1760, aged 90 years also his wife Sarah Frith, who died June 12, 1758 aged 84 years Likewise the body of John Frith who died april 9th 172.. aged 26 years also the body of James Frith who died Aug 24 1741 aged 41 years and Wm Frith of the Cross, d. Dec. 22, 1792, a. 99 years Also the body Robt Frith the younger who ... August 31st. 1769, aged 50 ? y. FRITH.- Memento Mori. Wm. Frith, I. of the Cross, resigned his Soul to God Dec. 22, 1792, a. 99 y. and Isabella his w. Apr. 2, 1787,a.. 77 y. in humble hopes and expectation Thro Faith in Christ to gain Salvation & a Glorious Resn. where Heavenly Joys are perfection...Frith, s. to { rest hidden by flat stone.} {Hs.} FRITH.-Im. Wm. Apothecary, wd. 5 Dec, 1806, a. 74 y. Also Joseph F. s. to the ab., Ap, 28 1810,...49 y. { hidden by flat stone.} {Hs.} FRITH.-Im. Alex. F., I. of Cornagrade, d. Sept, 22, 1810, a. 50 y. Elizabeth his w. June 26, 1810, a. ..y. FRITH.-Semper Fidelis. Ulr. the I. Jas. F., of Derryinch, wd. 3 Dec. 1829, a. 53 y. Also r. his eldest s. Arthur Foster F., d. 13 Mar. 1828, a. 31 y. Also sm. Ann, w. of Jas. F., Derryinch, wd, 24 Mar, 1852, a. 92 y. FRITH.-Sm. John F., wdtl. Aug. 23, 1821, a. 26 y. FRITH.-Family Burial Place of Robert F., C.E., Island View, E., 1846-1906. Frith.-Skull and crossbones Sm. Wm. Robt. f., OF THE CROSS, WD. IN THE LORD 16 fEB. 1853, A. 31 Y. {hS.} FRITH.-Sm. Dr. B.G.F., wdtl. at E., 17 July, 1863, a. 73 y. Also his bel. w. Letitia F., wdtl. at E., 18 Dec. 1878, a. 86 y. and 11 months. FRITH.-Eb. W.F., of Levaghy, im. of his bel. w. Elizabeth, wdtl. 2 Sept. 1867. a. 45 y. {Hs.} FRITH.-Sm. Samuel F., wd. 24 Dec, 1869, a. 77 y. And of his w. Sarah Jane F., wd. 19 Noc. 1872, a. 84y.And of their s. Jas. f., wd. 15 Sept. 1872, a. 44 y. Also Jas. F., bro. of abn. Saml., wd. 14 Oct. 1856, a. 58 y. And of his w. Media F., wd. 13 Nov., 1879, a. 80 y. Eb.Jas. m oore.F. Frith.-Im. Jas. F., s. of John Henry F., d. 12 Jan. 1877, "Resting solely on the finished work of Christ.-Matt. vi.10 Frith.-See Rennick. FUNSTON.-....ye....the ....of James ...ton, who was son to David Funston. He dyed ivne the 13 1735, aged 2 . {Hs raised letters.} from Belinda.

-----Original Message----- From: Jane O'Brien <jayohbee@iol.ie Date: 09 March 1999 15:03 Subject: [CountyCork-L] How they lived: Food 2 >The most popular drinks in ancient and medieval Ireland were milk and whey. >Ale has also been drunk throughout the ages, and wines were imported by the >privileged few from Roman times. Distillation of whiskey is first referred >to in the annals in 1405. > >The brewing of Poteen (home brewed whiskey) is illegal, but that’s never >stopped it being produced. It is still to be had in some places in some >counties, but the old craft is gone. Today’s poteen is not made in the same >way and various chemicals are believed to be used. It is not a ‘safe’ drink >to take ….literally! Unless you know who has made it and they have a good >name. > >Up to a number of years ago, it was well known that publicans down the >country would substitute poteen for gin and vodka….when mixed with minerals >such as these are it was never noticed. This happened particularly around >Christmas time… > >Irish food, with milk and corn forming the staple diet, remained relatively >unchanged until the introduction of the potato. This reached Europe in 1588 >and traditions well as some historical evidence links Sir Walter Raleigh >name to its introduction to Ireland. Historians have argued over when the >potato became popular in Ireland, Salaman claims that potatoes were the food >of ordinary people as early as 1630. Some argue that the rapid rise in >population during the 18th century . While others argue that it only became >popular at the end of the 18th Century when population pressure forced >people to abandon traditional methods of food production in order to support >large numbers. A field planted with potatoes could sustain twice as many >people as one planted with wheat. Whenever it happened the potato gradually >replaced all other foods as the staple article of the diet. Eating habits >changed and some foods such as cheese and ale which had been used >extensively for centuries were forgotten > >In the 17th century war and revolt were the cause of many upheavals as >plantations and land settlements led to changes in ownership of land. In >the 18th century famine came and as the population began to increase >holdings grew smaller and people moved to marginal land. By the 19th >century there was a subsistence economy. The potato was the thread on which >many people’s hope for survival depended and unlike grains the potato could >only be stored for one year. In many districts, particularly the south and >west, people were not able to produce enough potatoes to last a full year >and the summer months between the exhausting of last years supply and the >harvesting of the new crop became known as the ‘Hungry Months’. Famine and >disease were commonplace and people suffered appalling deprivations. > >By 1845 the transition from grain to potato was complete. Potato >consumption was high and on average adults ate 10lbs of potato a day when >they were available. It is estimated that the country produced 15 million >tons of potato a year of which 47% was for human consumption. Of the >remainder, 33% was for animal food, 13% for seed, 5% wasted and 2% exported. >A contributor to the Farmers Journal in 1846 estimated that 5 million of the >8 million population depended entirely on potatoes…. There were some parts >of the country where people did not become totally dependant on the potato >though. In these areas oatmeal continued to be the mainstay of the diet, >this is particularly true in parts of Ulster. The use of oatmeal and other >grain produce had a social as well as a regional distribution and moving up >the scale a mixed diet of potatoes, oatmeal, milk and wheaten bread could be >found amongst the farmers. Meat was a luxury enjoyed by few on the eve of >the famine and not many vegetables were grown. Cabbage achieved immense >popularity when it was grown as a safe crop instead of potatoes. > >A wide variety of preparations were used to vary the monotony of the potato >diet. They were usually boiled but could also be roasted in the hot ashes >of a fire. When boiled, mashed potatoes were mixed with cabbage, kale, >onions, leeks and milk to make a dish known as colcannon (usually only one >green leafy vegetable and either the leeks or onions are used making >colcannon…there’s always some milk added). A somewhat similar dish was made >in the northern counties without the green vegetable and this was known as >champ. Potato cakes were made and were known by a variety of different >names in different places. Bread or pancakes made from potatoes and flour >could be cooked on a griddle or in a pan and were known in many counties, >particularly in the west… called boxty. > >The potato solved Ireland’s food problems for a long period, but was always >an unreliable crop. Even befoere the Great Famine the potato crop was often >damaged by unfavourable weather conditions and people were accustomed to >seeking other food supplies. In coastal regions the sea was used. A report >on the famine on the island of Arranmore in Co. Donegal, in 1836 said ‘many >families are living on cockles, periwinkles and other shellfish and some >upon seaweed’ Other reports tell of people risking life and limb to get >seabirds or their eggs from cliffs, and descriptions of a coast crowded with >people seeking whatever edibles they could find are quite common. In other >areas a wide variety of plants were eaten, Lucas has written that nettles >and charlock were used extensively as need foods and as regular articles of >diet. (Nettle soup is something which is supposed to be nice, made from >young nettles. I’ve never tried it though). A feast provided in Tobermoney >for men who helped build a one day sod house was composed of ‘prushag milis, >and the soft tops of nettles boiled together from which the water was >pressed, and butter added in plenty, was champed together’. This meal was >eaten with wooden spoons and to finish the meal ‘a good fire harned scon,’ >washed down with plenty of milk. Plants nuts and seeds which in the pre >potato era had formed part of the regular diet of the people, were used >again. The bleeding of cattle to obtain the blood as food, was a common >practise in Ireland, and it was often used in the war years f the 16th >century. In many areas the husks of corn were collected by the poor for >food, and when mixed with a little oatmeal and water made a nourishing drink >known as ‘sowens’. Starvation in Ireland drove people to eat what they >could, when they could, even grass. The last famine in Ireland occurred in >1890 when parts of Kerry were badly affected. > >The connection between food and religion has always been strong in Ireland, >and food was regarded as God's’gift and had to be treated as such. grace >before and after meals was an acknowledgement of this and the custom of >never refusing food to a wandering beggar was regarded as a duty to God. >The reliance on God’s bounty was also acknowledged in other ways, such as >baking, when a cross was made on top of the cake of bread and to not do so >was regarded as unlucky. Throughout Europe during medieval times people >travelled with holy pictures around the fields to invoke blessings on >growing crops and in parts of Ireland medals of Saints could be placed in >the four corners of a field to ward off evil or invoke Gods blessing. > >Just as God had to be thanked for his gift’s so it was believed that the >famine was due to the will of God, and it was for this reason that the Irish >accepted crop failure and starvation so placidly. > >As in other countries different classes had different food. ‘Baker’s bread, ’ >as white loaves were called in parts of Ireland, were regarded as a luxury >as they could only be bought by the more affluent. In parts of Tipperary >the white loaf was known as the ‘Priest’s bread’ and is was only bought when >the priest was coming to the house to say Mass. The majority of people >could only afford to bake their own bread. The tradition of only the upper >class eating bakers bread goes back to the 17th Century. It wasn’t only in >types of bread that classes differed. Carleton described the food eaten in >the houses of wealthy farmers on special occasions as being geese and fowl >of all kinds, shoulders of mutton, potatoes, carrots, parsnips and cabbage >as well as an immense pudding boiled in a clean sheet. One labourer in Co. >Cork said ‘ The mean devils(strong farmers) would give you spuds (potatoes) >and some milk and put you to do the hardest work and eat plenty of meat for >themselves and do the lightest.’ > >Different foods were regarded as suitable for different kinds of work. A >cake as big as the wheel of an ass cart and made with curds, butter, eggs >was prepared specially for groups of men cutting turf in the Killarney >district. Communal eating on occasions such as turf cutting, threshing and >harvesting when groups joined together had a festive air. Nor was communal >work confined to men, women often gathered for sessions of spinning wool. >Traditionally when meat was carved, certain portions were reserved for >specific people and the tradition of giving the head of a slaughtered beast >to a blacksmith was an old custom. Wayward boys were threatened with the >‘bundun’ or tail of the chicken if they weren’t good, for small children a >mixture of potatoes or bread and hot milk known as ‘pandy’ (or panda) was >made. Gingerbread and saffron cake were made as a treat for children in Co. >Carlow. >

Janet Could be Clones. My 1/2 inch Ordnance Survey map (sheet 8) shows Cluain Eois as Clones, the town in Co. Monaghan. Also a parish in Monaghan and Fermanagh Maurice

Janet FREEHOLDER,of course owns land outright (but in legal theory held land directly from the king). LEASEHOLDER owns a leasehold interest in land for a fixed term of years under a lease in writing. He pays rent to a landlord but strictly speaking is not a tenant. He has security of tenure under the terms of his lease. If the leasehold interest was land (rather than a business premises in a town) he probably had several tenant farmers renting the land under him. The tenant farmers had few rights and no security of tenure. A RENTCHARGER is a sort of landlord under the terms of a kind of lease known as a Fee Farm Grant. I think this device is peculiar to Irish law. It is a lease for ever. Effectively both landlord and leaseholder (mainly the latter) have the rights of a freeholder, but the landlord/rentcharger is not in posession and not likely ever to get possession. This device is sometimes still used in Irish law as a way of selling property and retaining some control over it. It is a development of (or follow on from) the Lease for lives (usually 3), which can be useful sources of family history. These were renewable for ever. When one of the named lives died a new one was added on payment of a fine. Under a law (I have forgotten which one) passed in the last century the leaseholder was permitted to pay one final fine and convert to a Fee Farm Grant. Maurice Cassidy

Janet wrote "Peter's records also indicate he spoke "Lingua Hibernican" which shows that the old tongue was still alive in rural Fermanagh in the 1830s (just as John O Donovan's Ordnance Survey letters say)." According to my father, while he was attending St. Michael's secondaty school (about 1907 to 1913) he took some lessons in Irish from one of the last living native Irish speakers in Fermanagh. I must see if anyone in my family can remember her name. Maurice Cassidy

Does anyone know of any books (or other sources) that show which townlands belonged to which estates? What I'd love to see if it exists, is a map of civil parish showing to whom townlands belonged. I'm especially interested in parishes of Devenish and Boho. Janet C-S

Maybe a historian on the list can answer this: It was my understanding that most Catholics in Fermanangh lost their lands at the time of the Ulster Plantation. If someone (presumably Catholic) was listed on a voting registration list of 1839 as a Freeholder, would there be records somewhere of how he acquired the land, that is, a record of its sale? Janet C-S

I have a Betsy KERR who married an Oliver Wallace in the Enniskillen ares in the 1830's, any connection, Cheers, Raelene

I would be delighted to make contact with anyone who has come across John Gallagher, a Land Steward employed somewhere near Enniskillen whose son, Edward, was born between 1857 and 1859 in Enniskillen. Edward, my great-grandfather, joined the Metropolitan Police Force in London on the 5th January 1877 but the 'joiners' records for that year are missing. Family legend says that Edward had eleven brothers and one sister who all emigrated to North America, possibly Virginia. All contact with the USA and Irish families has been lost. Vivien Arthur (nee Gallagher) donald@barncot.freeserve.co.uk

I have come across a reference to Cluain Eois and Daimhinis, two medieval monastic locations in Fermanagh. I know that Daimhinis is Devenish (Island). Am I right in guessing that Cluain Eois is Cleenish? Can anyone help? Janet C-S

This is not true for all hearth money rolls....or what remains of them. Whatever remains for each county has to be looked at individually...the Kilkenny ones for example give the townlands and in the main the full name and surname......as do the Tipperary ones I have seen. Having said that, things like the hearth money rolls and all other census 'substitutes' are no guarantee that these people are your ancestors....they're just more pieces in a greater jig saw.....and guesses at where people may have some from. How much money are you talking about....and how does it compare to all the time that people put into their searches and the fact that there is so little actual factual evidence from this country for searchers. Surely to find that a name occurred in an area as far back as teh mid 1600's must be a real boost for people who think their ancestors came from that area? Jane -----Original Message----- From: Donald Holmes <donaldh@golden.net> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 14 March 1999 20:38 Subject: Barber Bill-CARV22 >I have seen the LDS reel for the Hearth Rolls and would not recomend them >to anyone. They only listed the surname (sometimes initial) in a county; >there is no way of pinning down a closer geographic connection than the >county which means that you already knew your people were in that county to >have been looking there. > >I also rented a census of Fermanagh (1821?) which listed 90 families from a >population of approximately 25,000. If your names happen to be among the 90 >you are home free but it is not a very good way to >invest your money. > >Don Holmes >donaldh@golden.net >Ontario >

Greetings, I am new to the list, and have been quietly reading some very interesting submissions for the past couple of weeks. Congratulations on having such an informed group to work with. I am seeking information about my Mom's father and his family who came from Enniskillen. My g-grandfather was William George BLEAKLEY, who according to family tradition owned a reasonably prosperous Butcher shop in Enniskillen. My granddad, Albert BLEAKLEY "left town" and emigrated to Canada around 1908-1909. He never talked much about the reasons, and family history gives no clues. Apparently William George BLEAKLEY had five other children, Louise, Alecia, Margaret, George and John. John is reputed to have died in WWI, circumstances unknown at this time. If anyone has any information they could pass along to me, I would just love to hear from you and update you from my end. I have learned this is a 'sharing' preoccupation, which is what makes it so great! Looking forward to hearing from someone... gary -- Gary B Arnold #1201-615 7th Avenue New Westminster, BC V3M 2J1 Canada