Listers, For those for whom I did look-ups in the Voter Registration Lists--I goofed when giving the values of land . They should have been in pounds sterling, not shillings! Janet C-S
In a message dated 4/27/99 11:15:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, celam@pdq.net writes: > I am searching for information on O'Hegny of Fermanagh, King of Oriel. > His daughter, Beanmidhe, married Aedh Méith "The Fat" macAedo O'Neill. > Any information would be appreciated. These folks are a branch of Clan Dalach... mostly flourished during the 10th to the 12th centuries until the Maguires "took over" Fermanagh. I would have to know some more about where you got the reference and what time frame is involved to help you locate which person this is. Phil
Hello all, My name is Kate Hands. I am a newcomer to this list and look forward to exchanging information with others regarding my main family of interest - the Drumms, of Derryvullan, Irvinestown, nr Enniskillen. Does anyone else have an interest in this family? Kate Hands, Australia.
Dear List, Let me explain a few things about the list I recently offered (offer now closed) to check. These lists were for Sept 26 and Oct 3, 1839. Several people asked, and from some comments, I see I should clarify some points. (I am still learning about voting priveleges in Ireland, but thanks to Dr. Jim Ryan, I now understand it a little better. Perhaps if I don't explain this quite correctly, he will jump in and help out.) The idea of univeral suffrage is relatively new. In the 18th and 19th centuries, voting was for the privileged few. Voting was for men--women did not vote. The right to vote was tied to property, but the amount of property a man had to own or occupy in order to vote varied through the years. The general idea was to keep the common rabble from voting. In 1692, the Penal laws forbid Catholics from owning property, but in the 1780s, these restrictions were lifted for those Catholics who took an oath of allegiance to the Crown.) However, whether one could vote (for both Catholics and Protestants) still depended on how much property was owned, or leased. In 1839, the right to vote was extended to 10s land occupiers. (Land worth 10s or more.) While a man did not have to own land to vote, he had to occupy land of a certain value (established by the value of the lease). A freeholder was a person who held land for the duration of his life or that of a specified individual(s), in contrast to short-term leaseholders or annual rent payers. In order to vote, a man had to register in the County town (possibly in nearest large town). Lists of people who registered were published in local papers, such as the Impartial Reporter and the Fermanagh Farmer's Journal, in 1839 and 1840. What does it mean if your ancestor was not found on the 1839 list that I checked? It could mean: he registered later and his name appears in a different issue. he registered somewhere other than Enniskillen. he never registered because he did not occupy land worth at least10s, or because he had a short-term lease, or paid an annual rent. he was too young. he was not in Fermanagh at the time, because he had already emigrated. he was living with his parent or other relative who was the freeholder or leaseholder. If I am lucky enough to get to Fermanagh again tis summer, I plan to make copies of the other lists published in 1839 and 1840. If and when I do, I will offer look-ups for them. Hope this helps clear up some things about the voter lists. Janet C-S
I am searching for information on O'Hegny of Fermanagh, King of Oriel. His daughter, Beanmidhe, married Aedh Méith "The Fat" macAedo O'Neill. Any information would be appreciated. Cassie A. Elam The Elam Family Research Page www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/6831/ celam@pdq.net Albrecht, Anderson, Ashby, Beresford, Biggs, Bolling, Bordroyne, Bowman, Boynton, Buna, Burda, Cannon, Clark, Coxe, Craft, Craig, Delaney, De Morlais, Elam, Esperson, Evans, Falber, Faly, Forman, Frye, Gill, Goode, Green, Hagerman, Hassal, Hatcher, Herrington, Kominek, Kuchynka, Laird, Lane, Lloyd, Longford, MacDuffy, Marriott, Matthews, McGraw, Murphy, Neale, Norville, O'Donnell, O'Hara, O'Neill, Padfield, Padon, Parker/Parkes, Parrack, Perkins/Parkyns, Pierce, Powell, Read, Robbinson, Robertson, Robins, Robinson, Rolleston, Ross, Rush, Schaus, Schoppert, Scott, Shirecliffe, Shows, Skrivanova, Smith, Stejskalova, Sweesy, Tadlock, Tanner, Taylor, Throckmorton, Tomkins, Tucker, Twynborrowe, Vlachovska, Wade, Ward, Waters, Whetsel, Whitaker
I have just finished viewing a film of the 1851 census for Clonee Town, Fermanagh & thought that it may be of intrest to others if I listed the few surnames mentioned. Crozier, Cullen, Fox, Gallagher, Gilbert, Irvine, Johnston, Knot, Maguire, McCormick, McGlaghlin (Mclaughlin), Morris, Muldoon, Mullen & Sweeney. (plus 2 others I couldn't make out.) This film is available from a LDS FHS (film number 100858) Hope this is of interest to someone. John McLoughlin.
A history of Sligo Port makes considerable mention of the 19th century emigrant trade and of the seafaring families involved and quite a lot of statistics and other information on passengers. Memory Harbour, The Port of Sligo, John C McTernan, Avena Publications 1992, printed by the local paper Sligo Champion, Wine Street, Sligo, Ireland. Michael Clarke Irvinestown, Co Fermanagh -----Original Message----- From: Ojaisandy@aol.com <Ojaisandy@aol.com> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 26 April 1999 15:52 Subject: Re: Ships 1833-34 >Hi, can you share with us the websites you used to find passenger lists of >ships from Sligo to Quebec? Thanks in advance, Sandi >
--part1_df752a6a.2456ff04_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_df752a6a.2456ff04_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:05 2000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id HAA24368 for <BKregor@aol.com>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost) by imo16.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) with internal id HAA12476; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <199904271146.HAA12476@imo16.mx.aol.com> To: BKregor@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="HAA12476.925213565/imo16.mx.aol.com" Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Reply-To: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com --HAA12476.925213565/imo16.mx.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The original message was received at Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:44:54 -0400 (EDT) from root@localhost *** ATTENTION *** An e-mail you sent to an Internet destination could not be delivered. The Internet address is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your e-mail could not be delivered is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail administrator or Postmaster at that destination. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>> RCPT To:<FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com> <<< 550 <FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com>... User unknown 550 <FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com>... User unknown -------------------- Final-Recipient: RFC822; FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; bl-3.rootsweb.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com>... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:04 -0400 (EDT) -------------------- Received: from BKregor@aol.com (8065) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id eOWEa25233 for <FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Return-path: BKregor@aol.com From: BKregor@aol.com Message-ID: <1247aae7.2456fd36@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:44:54 EDT Subject: Joseph Baird around the 1760-80 To: FERMANAUGH-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: BKregor@aol.com Has anyone ever run across a Joseph Baird born in County Tyrone, Straabane or around that area??? Trying to run down an illusive ancestor!!! He ended up in North Carolina, (Wilkes County) and married right before 1795 and had a son in Salisbury, North Carolina but taking a chance that he was born in Ireland according to family hearsay.....thanks for your valuable time --HAA12476.925213565/imo16.mx.aol.com-- --part1_df752a6a.2456ff04_boundary--
--Boundary_(ID_UcGX39ws7fX8XtREO7A8gw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thomas Wilson I, too, am looking for ships in this era. A gentleman from Enniskillen wrote and advised me that people from the Beleek and Garrison area of Fermanagh generally left via the port of Sligo. (closest). In 1830 it began to increase and was very busy for the next few years. (he quoted from the Sligo Observer) Of course once the famine hit it reached far greater levels. Most common destination was Quebec. I have looked at several web sites with passenger lists and found a few from Sligo but none with the Brocks that I seek. I will watch for Wilsons from now on and keep your address. --Boundary_(ID_UcGX39ws7fX8XtREO7A8gw)--
Hi, can you share with us the websites you used to find passenger lists of ships from Sligo to Quebec? Thanks in advance, Sandi
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OK, I am inundated!!! Please do not send me any more. I will take care of the ones I already have, but cannot do any more for a while. If I can do more a later time, I will repost the offer. Janet C-S
Message text written by INTERNET:FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com >From: Caiside@aol.com< >I will do look-ups. Here are the rules: 1. Send to me off-list. 2. No more than 2 surnames. 3. For common surnames, you must give me the Civil Parish, OR the surname AND given name. 4. Include words "Voter reg lookup" in SUBJECT. 5. You must use the words please and thank you. <g>< Please William or Charles MONTGOMERY (Aghalurcher, Clay or Drumharriff?) William SCOTT (Possibly Aghalurcher) Thank you Suzanne Sommerville In Michigan, USA
Hello All, I thought some of you may be interested in having a look this site that is posted in the Ancestry Weekly Digest. http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3732.htm Have fun.........Pat Patricia Folkers Alberta, Canada folkersa@cadvision.com
Hi listers: I have a copy of the lists of people registering to vote in Enniskillen, Co Fermanagh, in Sept and Oct 1839, printed in the Impartial Reporter. Record includes, Name (surname, given name) sometimes rank or occupation, , townland of residence, "in what right claiming" ( whether Freeholder, Leaseholder, or Rentcharger), description of property (house, or house and office, or lands, Barony, Townland of property owned, rented, leased), Parish, and Value of Property (10, 20, 50) I will do look-ups. Here are the rules: 1. Send to me off-list. 2. No more than 2 surnames. 3. For common surnames, you must give me the Civil Parish, OR the surname AND given name. 4. Include words "Voter reg lookup" in SUBJECT. 5. You must use the words please and thank you. <g> If there are many many requests, those producing no result will get simply the answer: "Sorry, none found." It may sound curt, but if there are a lot of requests, I won't have time for long gracious replies. <g> Janet C-S
WILSON, Try this list: <A HREF="http://istg.rootsweb.com/">ISTG</A> Good Luck, Joyce
Looking for the names of any ships that may have sailed in 1833-34, which passengers from County Fermanagh. My ggggrandparents Thomas and Margaret (maiden name unknown) arrived in Hastings County, Ontario Canada in about 1834. They would have left County Fermanagh in the comapny of their son John, b. October 24, 1815, (perhaps other children Thomas Morley, James, Robert and Edward), along with Thomas' brother and wife John and Jane Wilson. Thomas Lester Wilson twilson@pathwaynet.com
I am looking for information on the COFFY and RUTLEDGE lines. John COFFY and his wife Elizabeth "Bessie" RUTLEDGE immigrated from Ireland to Carroll County, Ohio in the 1830s. Most everyone from Ireland that came to Carroll County during that time seems to have originally lived in County Fermanagh, Trory Parish, Enniskillen. A descendant of James McCOURT -- who stood up for John COFFY in court -- provided me with that information. It is our opinion that they were probably neighbors back in Ireland. Susan Mann KingNLowry@aol.com
Hi list I need any available information on a passenger ship travelling in 1777 from Cork Ireland to New York with its passengers final destination Quebec. Her name was "The British Queen" and "Royal George" was one of her escorts. Any scrap of information would be very much appreciated. Peggy Searching HALL
Would anyone mind doing a census lookup for me? I am interested in the family of Philip TREACY, who was a farmer in the townland of KILLYRAW, parish of GALLOON. Thank you Gary Sellers Lansing,Michigan U.S.A