Thanks William for this invaluable information! Jan Hart ----- Original Message ----- From: <buddyf@ieway.com> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 03 June 1999 10:53 Subject: LDS film Numbers Updated list > Film Number Application Subject > > 100153 Ireland Tombstone inscriptions, Wills, Deed, > Oedigrees and Manuscripts > 100173 Ireland Religious Census, 1766, by T.Groves > 100181 Ireland Freeholders index, 1760-1788 > 100266 Ireland Surname index, Land/Property > 100587 Ireland Deeds, 1708-1929 > 100819 Aghalurcher Information > 100819 Derryvullan Information > 100858 Clones Census, 1851 > 100867 Ireland Church of Ireland, marriage records > 100912 Ireland Index, wills, deeds, 1661-1885 > 100959 Ireland Index, administrative bonds > 101139 Ulster Pedigrees > 127935 Fermanagh Militia Lists > 184319 Clonelly Information > 256588 Ireland Applotment books, 1824-1840 > 258443 Fermanagh Tithe Applotment books, 1833 > 258471 Ireland 54 reels of > information:Geneealogy,Householders,Muster rolls, ect > 258507 Fermanagh Part of item above pertaining to OUR county. > 258519 Churchill Baptisms, 1815-1850 > 258520 Inishmacsaint Parish records > 258520 Devenish Parish records > 258520 Inishmacsaint Baptisms & Marriages, 1801-1815 > 258571 Ireland PRONI transcripts > 258753 Derrybrusk Griffiths Valuation, map 27, 1862 > 259148 Fermanagh Enniskillen Poor Law Union, 1845-1913, and > Work House Register. > 295810 Genealogy BOOK: Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart, 800 > pages, Vol # 1. > 295811 Genealogy BOOK: Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart, 800 > pages, Vol # 2. > Note; These are on Michrofisch, go back to > the 16th & 17th centuries. > are fully indexed and my be in a local > library. The books have been reprinted and > are availiable . > 413526 Ireland Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, Vol 1. > 413527 Ireland " " " Vol 2. > 413528 Ireland " " " Vol 3. > 476959 Ireland The Irish and Anglo Irish by John O'Hart > 476999 Ireland Surnames, Matheson Survey, 1894 > 538447 Drumkeeran Births, marriages, ect. > 597733 Fermanagh Census, Fragments, 1821 > 599270 Ireland Registry of Deeds, surnames, county indexes, > 1708-1904 > 812384 Census, 1901, part 1 > 812385 Census, 1901, part 2 > 823584 Ireland Marriages in Ireland, 1771-1812 > 824282 Ireland Marriages > 824865 Inishmacsaint Census, 1901, part 1 > 824866 Inishmacsaint Census, 1901, part 2 > 836120 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, Drumkeeran to Kesh > 836121 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, Lack to Magher > 836122 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, rest of the Parish > 836598 Devenish Census, 1901 > 896887 Ireland Registry of Deeds > 924498 Ireland "Stem of the Irish Nation". > 924648 N. Ireland Census of 1659 (not a Typo) > 926050 Devenish Baptisms, 1853-1879 > 933420 Ireland Londonderry, Westmeath, Limerick > 979704 Churchill Parish Registers > 979704 Garrison Parish Registers, 1860-1874 > 979705 Irvinestown Parish Registers, 1846-1881 > 989745 Roscommon Information > 990082 Clogher Church Records > 990160 Ireland Church of Ireland Records > 990408 Ireland Freeholders as of 1 May 1831 > 991663 Derrygonnelly Baptisms, 1815--1850 > 994039 Ireland Ancient Schools and Scholars > 1279238 Clogher Church Records > 1279325 Fermanagh Land and Property Records > 1279330 Ulster Armagh records > 1279356 Fermanagh Poll of Electors > 1559439 Ireland Irish Catholic Directory of 1846 > 1565474 N. Ireland Tithe Applotment Books, 1822-1837 > 1696591 Ireland Irish Compendium of Information, Geneaology > 1696604 Clogher Clergy & Parishes > 1696604 Ireland Church Directory > 1761071 Fermanagh General Information > 6010744 Fermanagh General Information > 6020301 Ireland County Maps > 6020359 Irealnd Ports of Departure, 1841 > 6026286 Ulster History > 6035594 Emigration To USA & Canada, information > 6035595 Emigration Irish Imigration to USA & Canada > 6036090 Ireland County Bibliographys > 6036263 Ulster The Ulster Plantation, 1601, lists who came > from where? > 6110526 England Inventory of LDS materials about England, 89 > michrofichs. > 6110527 Ireland Inventory of LDS materials about IRELAND, 18 > michrofichs. > 6110528 Scotland Inventory of LDS materials about Scotland, > 18 michrofichs. > 6110529 Wales Inventory of LDS materials about Wales, 17 > michrofichs. > 6342440 Cavan Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. > 6342441 Donegal Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. > 6342443 Fermanagh Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. > 6342445 Monaghan Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. > 6342446 Tyrone Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. > > I will try to update this list once a month as time permits. My quest is > to get a listing of all availiable > information , on hand at the LDS library, and post it to the Fermanagh site. > > William J Flanagan > Fermanagh County Host > Spokane, Wa.,USA >

Is there anyone out there researching these names? Robert Agur was born in 1773 Norther Ireland and was married to Sarah McEwen born 1795 Northern Ireland Their son William was born 21 Aug 1817 Northern Ireland and his wife Catherine Waddel was born 09 July 1819 Lanarkshire S. Scotland. Thanks Bonnie -- For family names I am researching visit my Web Page: http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/robibn/

In a message dated 6/3/99 9:37:46 AM, jayohbee@iol.ie wrote: <<The records listed by me in yesterdays post are held by the PRONI in Belfast, Northern Ireland ad I think that the only way to access these would be to go there in person, or employ a profesional genealogist. >> Many of the workhouse records have been filmed by the LDS and are available thru FHCs. I just ordered the ones for Enniskillen myself. Janet C-S

The records listed by me in yesterdays post are held by the PRONI in Belfast, Northern Ireland ad I think that the only way to access these would be to go there in person, or employ a profesional genealogist. The staff at PRONI will answer limited queries: but will not do research of a genealogical nature. The address is: The Public Record Office of northern Ireland, 66 Balmoral Avenue, Belfast, BT9 6NY Northern Ireland to make a quesry as to whether a record is available for consultation before going to the office e mail: PRONI@nics.gov.uk The search room is open to the public from 9.15am - 4.45pm Monday to friday and late opening on Thursdays, closed on public holidays and for approx 2 weeks sometime round november/Dcember, according to the information I have. I did not post any URl for any web site so you missed nothing. however, I did have this one reference in my files... LDS film # 0259187-90 Indoor Relief Register 1845-1918 and Record of Births 1846-1918 and Deaths 1899-1918 Lowtherstown Poor Law Union (Irvinestown) covering part of Co. Fermanagh and part Co. Tyrone Also, this reference passed on to me yesterday by our listowner :-) >LDS film # 0259148 Enniskillen, Poor Law union and work house register. I do not know of any other film reference numbers..but if anyone has any, I would appreciate it if they could pass them on to me (for any county) so that I can keep a list for the future....... I'm in Ireland, Dublin and have no experience of using any archives other than those here - the National Archives and Library etc....so references for other places which I have are those which I pick up elsewhere and pass on.... Jane -----Original Message----- From: Almond66jc@aol.com <Almond66jc@aol.com> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 02 June 1999 20:53 Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-D Digest V99 #138 >how does one get access to these records? >you did not give ant site addresses on the web. Did I MISS SOMETHING OF A >PREVIOUS PRINTING? >Thank you if you can help me. on these workhouses or unions that you mention. >mrs. almond >

Film Number Application Subject 100153 Ireland Tombstone inscriptions, Wills, Deed, Oedigrees and Manuscripts 100173 Ireland Religious Census, 1766, by T.Groves 100181 Ireland Freeholders index, 1760-1788 100266 Ireland Surname index, Land/Property 100587 Ireland Deeds, 1708-1929 100819 Aghalurcher Information 100819 Derryvullan Information 100858 Clones Census, 1851 100867 Ireland Church of Ireland, marriage records 100912 Ireland Index, wills, deeds, 1661-1885 100959 Ireland Index, administrative bonds 101139 Ulster Pedigrees 127935 Fermanagh Militia Lists 184319 Clonelly Information 256588 Ireland Applotment books, 1824-1840 258443 Fermanagh Tithe Applotment books, 1833 258471 Ireland 54 reels of information:Geneealogy,Householders,Muster rolls, ect 258507 Fermanagh Part of item above pertaining to OUR county. 258519 Churchill Baptisms, 1815-1850 258520 Inishmacsaint Parish records 258520 Devenish Parish records 258520 Inishmacsaint Baptisms & Marriages, 1801-1815 258571 Ireland PRONI transcripts 258753 Derrybrusk Griffiths Valuation, map 27, 1862 259148 Fermanagh Enniskillen Poor Law Union, 1845-1913, and Work House Register. 295810 Genealogy BOOK: Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart, 800 pages, Vol # 1. 295811 Genealogy BOOK: Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart, 800 pages, Vol # 2. Note; These are on Michrofisch, go back to the 16th & 17th centuries. are fully indexed and my be in a local library. The books have been reprinted and are availiable . 413526 Ireland Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, Vol 1. 413527 Ireland " " " Vol 2. 413528 Ireland " " " Vol 3. 476959 Ireland The Irish and Anglo Irish by John O'Hart 476999 Ireland Surnames, Matheson Survey, 1894 538447 Drumkeeran Births, marriages, ect. 597733 Fermanagh Census, Fragments, 1821 599270 Ireland Registry of Deeds, surnames, county indexes, 1708-1904 812384 Census, 1901, part 1 812385 Census, 1901, part 2 823584 Ireland Marriages in Ireland, 1771-1812 824282 Ireland Marriages 824865 Inishmacsaint Census, 1901, part 1 824866 Inishmacsaint Census, 1901, part 2 836120 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, Drumkeeran to Kesh 836121 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, Lack to Magher 836122 Magheraculmoney Census, 1901, rest of the Parish 836598 Devenish Census, 1901 896887 Ireland Registry of Deeds 924498 Ireland "Stem of the Irish Nation". 924648 N. Ireland Census of 1659 (not a Typo) 926050 Devenish Baptisms, 1853-1879 933420 Ireland Londonderry, Westmeath, Limerick 979704 Churchill Parish Registers 979704 Garrison Parish Registers, 1860-1874 979705 Irvinestown Parish Registers, 1846-1881 989745 Roscommon Information 990082 Clogher Church Records 990160 Ireland Church of Ireland Records 990408 Ireland Freeholders as of 1 May 1831 991663 Derrygonnelly Baptisms, 1815--1850 994039 Ireland Ancient Schools and Scholars 1279238 Clogher Church Records 1279325 Fermanagh Land and Property Records 1279330 Ulster Armagh records 1279356 Fermanagh Poll of Electors 1559439 Ireland Irish Catholic Directory of 1846 1565474 N. Ireland Tithe Applotment Books, 1822-1837 1696591 Ireland Irish Compendium of Information, Geneaology 1696604 Clogher Clergy & Parishes 1696604 Ireland Church Directory 1761071 Fermanagh General Information 6010744 Fermanagh General Information 6020301 Ireland County Maps 6020359 Irealnd Ports of Departure, 1841 6026286 Ulster History 6035594 Emigration To USA & Canada, information 6035595 Emigration Irish Imigration to USA & Canada 6036090 Ireland County Bibliographys 6036263 Ulster The Ulster Plantation, 1601, lists who came from where? 6110526 England Inventory of LDS materials about England, 89 michrofichs. 6110527 Ireland Inventory of LDS materials about IRELAND, 18 michrofichs. 6110528 Scotland Inventory of LDS materials about Scotland, 18 michrofichs. 6110529 Wales Inventory of LDS materials about Wales, 17 michrofichs. 6342440 Cavan Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. 6342441 Donegal Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. 6342443 Fermanagh Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. 6342445 Monaghan Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. 6342446 Tyrone Parish Maps, with townlands indicated. I will try to update this list once a month as time permits. My quest is to get a listing of all availiable information , on hand at the LDS library, and post it to the Fermanagh site. William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa.,USA

Hi Folks. Is there anyone researching RAMSAY family. Would love to hear from you. Could you tell me where I might get information on My G Grandmother's Birth Maria Ramsay or Ramsey b.abt. 1835 in Inniskillen. Her parents were Thomas and Mary( nee Robertson) Ramsay. Any assistance much appreciated. Regards Essie in Sydney Australia.

As far as I know, and using my 1994 Co Fermanagh phone book, they are all done by surname, not by townland. Do you have a name to look up? Doug in Canada Cretic04@aol.com wrote: > > do u know how I can obtain a telephone book that would list the townland of > Milligans in Fermanagh? Thanks....J. Smith

how does one get access to these records? you did not give ant site addresses on the web. Did I MISS SOMETHING OF A PREVIOUS PRINTING? Thank you if you can help me. on these workhouses or unions that you mention. mrs. almond

There are Indoor and outdoor registers in existance for some places. Indoor registers in some instances give information on the following: Name & Surname; age; marital status if adult; status if child; religion; disability if there was one, spouses name and children, where they came from and date of admissin, leaving or death. Outdoor registers: Name, age, maritial status, spouse, children, where from As with parish records these are the categories which there is supposed to be information on , that is no guarantee that any union actually took all this information. Survival of records has been poor and more so in areas where famine hit worst unfortunately. All documents pertaining to workhouses have not been collected and stored in central archival unit yet. 33 Unions were created during the famine and some unions changed names or parts of them became part of other unions. some unions cross county boundaries. Other recrds survive besides the inmate listings, but these are the ones of most concern to those who earch for information from the time of the famine. Minute books generally give no mor than information on the running of the workhouse, same goes for rough minute books. General Ledgers give information on monetary transactions, personal ledgers give info on officers of teh union. Rate books list info on tenements, but also the occupier and immediate lessor in some instances. Some unions kept vaccination records, some death and birth records, electoral records. Those records still in existance do not necessarily cover the whole period of the famine. Some give information from c. 1840 and then others may just give information on one year. The following is alist of Poor Law Unions which have some information on work house registers The information is held in different parts of the country. SOme of it in the PRONI in Belfast, in those instances I simply list a P, others are held by the National Archives or National Library in Dublin, or in the county libraries. Some may have been filmed and held by LDS centres, however I have no knowledge of any of these. Jane Co. Antrim: Antrim: Indoor workhouse registers - P Ballycastle: Indoor workhouse registers - P Ballymoney: INdoor workhouse registers - P Larne: INdoor workhouse registers - P Co. Armagh Armagh: Outdoor workhouse books - P Armagh: Indoor WOrkhouse registers - P Lurgan: Indoor workhouse books - P Newry: Outrelief lists for Ballymoyler Co. Cork Cork: Indoor workhouse register - Cork Archives Institute Kinsale: Indoor workhouse register - CAI; Middleton- Indoor workhouse books - CAI Co. Donegal Glenties: Indoor workhouse register - Co. Library Inishowen: Indoor workhouse register - Co. Library Letterkenny: Outdoor register - Co. Library Co. Dublin Dublin North: Indoor workhouse registerts - National Archives Dubin south: Indoor workhouse registers - NA Rathdown: Indoor workhouse registers - NA Co. Fermanagh Enniskilen: Out relief registers - P Enniskillen: Indoor workhouse registers - P Lowtherstown (Irvinestown): Out relief register - P Lowtherstown (Irvinestown) Indoor workhouse registers - P (part of Lowtherstown is in Co's Tyrone and Donegal) Co Derry (Londonderry) Magherafelt: Indoor workhouse register - P Co. Offaly (King's co.) Parsonstown (Birr) : Indoor workhouse register - Co. Library (part of this covers part of co. Tipperary) Co. Tipperary Thurles: Indoor workhouse rgisters - Co. Library Co. Wicklow: Rathdrum: indoor workhouse registers - Courthouse, wicklow

do u know how I can obtain a telephone book that would list the townland of Milligans in Fermanagh? Thanks....J. Smith

At 08:12 PM 5/31/99 +0100, buddyf@ieway.com wrote: Bill... Derrygonnely is a small place...If you mail your note to Pat Flanagan, Main St., Derrygonnely, I would bet it would arrive. My cousin's...The Maguire's...live on Main St. too. Give it a try. Maureen Maloney >Does anyone know if the Fish & Chip shop has ever opened on the main street >in Derrygonnely by Pat Flanagan and family ????? It was to be locatewd >between two Pubs on the south side of the street almost across from >Gallagher's butcher shop and just down the road (west) from the Post office. > >If so, I need his mailing address . Thanks for any/all information >William J Flanagan >Fermanagh County Host >Spokane, Wa.,USA > >

please remove me from the list. i do not wish to subscribe. Thank you bubbiern@aol.com

Here is a site to subscribe for a free genealogy newsletter. In the last two editions are instructions on searching the new LDS Site. http://www.firstct.com/fv/sub.html I haven't tried it yet but the instructions look like even I could follow them (grin) I have no connection or interest in this enterprise - just thought it might help. Patricia Folkers Alberta, Canada folkersa@cadvision.com Who we are is Who we were

Does anyone know if the Fish & Chip shop has ever opened on the main street in Derrygonnely by Pat Flanagan and family ????? It was to be locatewd between two Pubs on the south side of the street almost across from Gallagher's butcher shop and just down the road (west) from the Post office. If so, I need his mailing address . Thanks for any/all information William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa.,USA

to a Mr Sullivan who posted a recent inquiry about McGeough name in Fermanagh cir 1800's; Per Griffiths Valuation completed in 1862, but not pulished untill 1864.. In County Fermanagh No entries In County Monaghan 35 entries In County Tyrone 13 entries In County Armagh 18 entries In County Down 3 entries. Hope this helps to narrow it down. William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa.,USA

Hello listers, Does anyone know of people called Drumm still living around the area of Derryvullan, Irvinestown these days? I am wondering if any descendants of James Drumm, farmer, who most likely md Rebecca Maguire in 1822 are still residing in the neighbourhood. Should be pleased to make contact if they are to be found in the vicinity. Kate Hands, Mornington, Victoria, Australia

I read with interest Philip White's inquirey.I wonder if there may be a connection between his Johnstons and mine. My G-G-grandfather,Patrick Johnston,married Sarah Slevin in County Fermanagh around 1842. They had 8 children that I'm aware of in Ireland before immigrating to the U.S. in 1861. Patrick was born to William and Kate Johnston around 1813. Sarah was born to Hugh and Ellen Slavin around 1821. Their childrens' names were: William,D.O.B.1844; Mary(McKay) Johnston,1847; Hugh,1847; Catherine,1852; Sarah(Murphy)Johnston,1854; James,1856; Patrick,1858; John,1860; and born in the U.S., Eliza Jane(Coffey)Johnston,1862. They settled in the town of Greece,N.Y., a suburb of Rochester. In 1868 when Patrick Sr. became a citizen a clerk made a mistake and spelled his name "Johnson". We've been Johnsons ever since. If anyone has any Knowledge of these Johnston-Johnsons,I would greatly appreciate the info. sincerely, Greg Johnson

This is my first communication with this group, and I am not sure of the procedure. My great grandfather Patrick Johnston was born in Fermanagh County on May 3, l831, and his wife, my great grandmother, Bridget McDonald was born on Nov 12, l831, I believe in the same county. I have no further information other than they were Roman Catholic and both immigrated to the US, I believe when they were children. Does anyone know how I might find the parish they were baptized or town in which they were born, or any other information? Sincerely, Philip White

My DUGGAN ancestors supposedly came from Fermanagh Co. to coastal NC (probably via Norfolk, VA) in the early 1700s. Does anyone on the list have info on DUGGANs from Fermanagh? Bob Duggan in Atlanta r.duggan@ieee.org http://pages.prodigy.net/r,duggan ____ Robert S. (Bob) Duggan, Jr. r.duggan@ieee.org http://pages.prodigy.com/duggan

While searching the LDS IGI site I discovered the marriage of a couple of ancestors, Margaret GLENN and Andrew STUART (STEWART). The marriage is recorded as occurring Feb.19, 1846, Belleek, 0297, Fermanagh, Ireland. Can anyone tell me what the "0297" represents? I have also found a marriage listed as occurring at Belleek, 0299, and one at Inishmacsaint, 0303. These are also potential ancestors, but I am at a loss as to what the numbers are. Thanks in advance for all replys Penny Parker Edmonton, Canada