There is a strange custom which many people follow: When someone goes out of their way to help you by looking something up, typing you an answer, or sending you a url or a link, the custom is to send a short note to the person saying THANK YOU. I have noticed this custom seems to be dying out. (If you are already regularly following this custom, please disregard this notice) ;-) Janet C-S

In a message dated 6/22/99 7:15:25 AM, raycarri@usaor.net wrote: <<Information I have indicates my gggrandparents Michael Corrigan and Bridget Gilligan were married in Cleenish Parish County Fermanagh in 1848 or 1849.Is their any way to find parish records for Cleenish? >> According to Ryan's Irish Records, Cleenish RC records start in Dec. 1835 for baptisms, (with missing dates), but April 1866 for marriages. Records are in local custody and on microfilm at the National Library (Dublin) and have been indexed by Heritage World (which will search them for a fee). Janet C-S

I am a new subscriber to this list and my ARMSTRONG line apparently came from Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh----James ARMSTRONG who married Mary Anne MCAVOY, lived in the Twp of Kaladar in Lennox and Addington Co. when they imigrated to Ontario, Canada. They had about 10 children, my line being John Henry ARMSTRONG (b.1852) who had 10 children; John Martin ARMSTRONG (b.1890) being my grandfather who lived and farmed like his Dad, in the Frankford, Sidney Twp area of Ontario. Any connections out there? Thanks! Nancy

Thank you to those who replied. Clones in either on the border or at least on the grey edge of the border line. It is almost directly west of Newtownbutler. Also on a map send discovered how close CAVAN county is to Crom Castle and NewtownButler. Family lore always mentioned the McMahon's living at one time in Cavan but thought they meant Cavan in Ontario. William McMahon was raised by maternal Grandmother in Fermanagh, near Aughalurcher we believe. But now this possible JOhn Brown that married the Isabella McMahon in Clones may be a connection. I will also have to check out a Cavan county mailing list now as well. Thank you for your time and patience. Sincerely, Joy Irene Want a NEW CAR and don't like making car payments. Check out http://www.freecarpayments.com/2559/bonus.htm

Dear list members, Our FHC gazetter has been lost. Could someone tell me where clones is in Monaghan? Is it anywhere near the Fermanagh border? Have a family in or near Crom Castle and Drumborry 1846 and 1862, wonder if could be same family found in Clones 19 years earlier. Mary Browne born by our records March 17 1825/6/7/ daughter of John Browne and cousin to William Mcmahon Married 1846 in Holy Trinity Church, residence Drumborry just found Mary Browne christened March 19 1826 in Clones Monaghan. father John Browne and Mother Isabella McMahon Any reason for someone living in clones in 1810-1824 to move to Drumborry before 1846 and stay at least until after 1862 Griffith Evaluation. Minister said no record of Brownes in Derrylin/Holy Trinity records in the 1820's. If this is a possibility this could be a break-through after 20 years of searching. Any suggestions or comments gratefully accepted. Thank you. Sincerely Joy Irene djsk@home.com http://www.myNFLIstore.com/2559

I am looking for any information on the Phair family from Lisnaskea, County Fermanagh. My grandmother, Louisa Grace Phair, was born about 1880 in Lisnaskea and came to New York City in the late l890's. I would like to know who her parents were and how I might get this information. Any other information about this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Nikki

As a new subscriber, my family intersts are : ANDERSON, BUTLER, McELROY from Fermanagh Regards Elizabeth

Does anyone know of the Catholic Chuches in Fermanagh County Ireland. I'm trying to locate the records of Patrick Johnston born in Fermanagh County on May 3, 1831. He married Bridget McDonald also born there on NOVEMBER 12, 1883. I would really appreciate any help I can get to find the records of these relatives of my mother or of the catholic churches that I can contact to try to find their records. Thank you sincerely. Pat Twenter t Twenter

Hi all, Thanks all who sent me the suggestions and information that made my trip to Fermanagh so rewarding. In particular, I wish to thank John Cunningham for suggesting that we stay at David and Ann Keys B&B. David and Ann made us feel so welcome and helped so much in my quest for ancestors. I would still be in the dark if David, John and Ann had not told me various information about local history, place names, places to visit and where to find Church records. Ann was a very gracious hostess. Saint Mary's Church near Kesh at Ardess has the Church of Ireland records for Magheraculmoney Parish on computer printout. This means that all the birth, marriage and death records are in alphabetical order and very easy to search. These records are (I later found out) on microfilm at LDS and PRONI. The microfilm records however are in chronological order and much more difficult to search unless you know the dates to look for. The church charges for access by the hour, so I was glad that I had a cassette recorder and just read the records into the recorder. Within a few minutes after beginning to search the records, I found my great grandfather's birth record and confirmed his parent's names were the names I had already guessed. At the same time, my wife found their marriage record. John Cunningham came to meet us and provided me with a townland map where my great grandfather was born. This townland (and others) are not on my "Discoverer Series Ordance Survey " map, so I was pleasantly surprised to find the proper location and this fitted in better with other information that I already had. John also volunteered to show us some of the area. We gladly accepted his offer and were treated to a royal tour of the area and southern Donegal. John also had a notebook in which he had transcribed an account of the Ederney riot in 1824. In the trial that followed, there were accounts of the "Coopers of Edenclaw" part in suppressing the riot. I later used his notes to find the newspaper at the Enniskillen Library and photocopied the testimony at the trial. Great information for my Family history. After we left Fermanagh we toured various areas of southern and Northern Ireland and were treated to some fabulous scenery except on the rainy days when we saw very little. The rain of course is what makes Ireland so beautiful so it is difficult to complain. On the last two days of our trip, we visited PRONI but by this time I had most of the information that I wanted. I did however find lots of interesting information to read. The staff are very helpful and information is readily available. Art

In a message dated 6/18/99 3:02:25 AM, Adam4Eves@aol.com wrote: <<Drumkeeran Parish was carved out of the older Ardess Parish which still survives and has ancient records and a neatly preserved ancient graveyard. John Cunningham >> John, That is intersting information. What is your source for that? Does your source have anything about Devenish or Boho (Botha) parishes? Janet C-S

Drumkeeran Parish was carved out of the older Ardess Parish which still survives and has ancient records and a neatly preserved ancient graveyard. John Cunningham

Quoting....."David A. Farmer" <fermor@juno.com> >Does anyone have any information on what I have read is a Fermanagh >"Erenagh" family historically named MacScollog which changed it's name to >Farmer. I research Farmer/Fermor lines and have been curious about this >family for some time but have never found any solid information about >them. Here is a reference from "The Monaghan Story", by Livingstone; Under "Biographies - Individual Memoirs." Farmer, Rev. Hugh OFM 'Hugh Farmer, Franciscan Brother' CR 1966, by O'Dufaigh. (DUFFY) CR = Clogher Record, a yearly ? publication. OFM = ??????? Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net

In a message dated 6/17/99 8:50:15 PM, tray@jps.net wrote: <<OFM = ???????>> Order of Friars Minor--in other words, a Franciscan friar. Janet C-S

Is anyone out there researching the Curran Family History?? We are from Fermanagh and Donegal areas - possibly related to John Philpot Curran who was a politician and orator in the 1700's who I know little of but would like to know more - especially his children or siblings. I'm getting desperate!! Josie Wilton <chicka@midcoast.com.au> Charlie & Josie Wilton 11 Sherwood Road, Port Macquarie NSW 2444 Australia

---------- > From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda@interworx.com.au> > To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fermanagh Fiche, extract 25. > Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 8:27 PM > > Page. 161. > > Note.M. > Deanery of Loch Erne, > > The following are the Churches of the Deanery of Loch Erne.{Logh Ermy.} as > given in the Ecclesiastical Taxation of Ireland {1302-06. Cal. of > Documents, Ireland, 1302-7.} The modern equivalents are suggested in > brackets, but the identification is often very uncertain:- > Name Value. Tenth > Church of Termundabeog 1 mark 16 d. > Kulmany{Magheraculmoney} 1 mark 16 d. > Deismysinagusam{Inishmacsaint. 1 mark 16 d. > Dunymis{Devenish} 2 marks 2s. 8 d. > Delbota{Boho?} 10 marks 12 d. > Lisnagabail {Lisgoole.} 3 marks 4s. > Deymsk {Iniskeen} 2 marks 2s. 8 d. > Cloevynis {Cleenish } 2 marks 2s 8 d. > Deyridmelan {Derryvullan } 3 marks 42. > Deridbrogosa {Derrybrusk } 1 mark 16 d. > Akadynbeychi { Aghavea.} 10s. 12 d. > Achadlurch {Aghalurcher.} 2 marks 2s. 8 d. > > Note M. > Corbe, Herenagh, Ballibetagh, Tate. > The Herenaghs had two characters, partly ecclesiastical and partly lay. > They were admitted into deacon's orders: but they were never advanced > higher, and they resided on the Termon or Church lands, the profits of > which they distributed to the Bishop and inferior clergy, to the repair of > Churches, and the maintenance of hospitality. These services they performed > under the direction and care of the Corbes who were the abbots of the > monasteries, Corbe meaning the successor of the founder. These offices were > often handed down from father to son, and the name Ua heogain {Anglice > Owens } occurs very frequently in connection with Iniskeen. See Two Ulster > Manors, p.51, for the explanation of these terms given to Sir John DAVIES > by " one of the best learned Vicars in all the country." In the General > Topographical Index to the Census Returns {1901.} it is stated that > Townlands and Baronies are the most ancient divisions of the country, and > that they existed under > page 162. > other names prior to the introduction of Christianity. The following > interesting table of land measures is there given:- > 10 acres--1 Greeve or Gneeve > 2 Gneeves==1 Sessiagh > 3 Sessiaghs==1 Tate or Ballyboe > 2 Ballyboes== 1 Ploughland, Seisreagh, or Carrow. > 4 Ploughlands== 1 Ballybetagh or Town land. > 30 Ballybetaghs==1 Troca cead or Barony > These dimensions appear however to have been variable in size. A note in U. > J. A. 1897-8., p. 255, defines a Ploughland as the amount of land which > would be turned annually by one plough, about 120 acres, and a Tate as > grazing for 21 cows, with some forest, and meadow for winter forage. > > > Note O. > Weight of bells of Enniskillen Church. > { from a framed list in the Vestry.} > Tenor 22 cwt. 1 qrs. 13 lbs. > V11. 16 cwt. 0 qrs. 0 lbs. > V1. old, probably 12 and a half cwt. > V. 11 cwt. 0 qrs. 9 lbs. > 1V. 8 cwt. 2 qrs. 27 lbs. > 111. 7 cwt. 2 qrs. 14 lbs > 11. 6 cwt. 3 qrs. 6 lbs. > Treble. 6 cwt. 0 qrs. 0 lbs. > Cast by Thomas Mears, Whitechapel Bell Foundation, London, 1841. > > Note.P. > Seatholders from early Vestry minutes. > > NOTE:- "for" means that the person is mentioned as formerly the owner : > "Jo" is an abbreviation for John. > 1685. > Jo. Delap's heirs. > 1693 > Cathcart, Capt. Jno.Forbes' Wife and family. > Corry.Capt. Schoolmaster, The > 1694 > Bennis, Dr. Dean, Paul. La. Turnell,Capt. > Buchanan, Feo.{for.} Dunbar, Thos.{for.} Lawder, Andrew. > Cole, Sir Mich. Frith, Jno.{for.} Smith,Wid.{for.} > Corry,Col. Foster.Wm. Wilkinson, Abraham. > > page 163. > "That ye next seat beyond that towards ye steeple be for ye Inhabitants of > ye lands of Reeligh, and ye large seat beyond that be for ye Inhabitants of > ye lands of Breacho, Racheilan, Woghternerro and Drumgea," > > > 1710-13. > Atkinson, Miles. Craigs.Mrs. McGee, Thos. > Ball, Rich. Crook,Ed. Minister, The. > Ball,Thos. Crook, Rich. Moore, Capt. John. > Barton, Ed. Crook, Marjory, Moore, Geo. > Cue, Jo. Neall, John. > Rankin, David. > Brown, Katrine. Dane, Paul. Richardson, Robt. > Browning, Capt.Wm. Easterbee, Ja. Roberts, Wm. > Cadan, Jo. Forchar,Mr. Roscrow,Wm. > Cashell, Lieut.Geo. Greg, Thos. Roscrow, Thos. > Carthcart, Allan. Gregory, Sam. Ross, Hugh. > Cathcart,Cornet Jas. Hall, Mrs. Martha. Shilcock, Wm. > Clark, Capt.Robt. Hamilton, Mrs. Shore, Mrs. Mary > Cole, John. Hanson, Steven. Smith, Roger. > Cooper,Thos. Johnston, Mrs. Kath. Stewart, Jo. > Cor, Hugh. Johnstone, Ja.{2} Wilkinson, Abra. > Corry, Col.James. Kenedy,Jo. Wilkinson, Michael. > Cottington,Wm. Leech,Jo. Wilkinson, Kathrin. > Cottington, Mrs. Lenox, Jo. Wilson, Geo > Coyne, J. Lowther, Mr. Wright, John. > Crafford, Lieut. Law-rens. > > 1744-6. > > Dunbar,Major.Geo. Johnston, Andr. Spear, Laurence. > > 1756. > > Adams, Robert. Darling's children. Johnston, Andr. > Armar.Mr. Dean, Mr. Johnston,Jas. > Atwell,Ed. Deeryn, John. Johnston, Robt. > Ball, Jas. Earl, Jas. M'Nab,Jo. > Beachem,Wm. Elliot,Thos,"Garvary" Minister, The. > Campbell, Wm. Moore, Sam. > Campbell, Hugh. Elliot, Widow. Mulligan,Phil. > Clark, Alex. Emerson,Thos. Neall, Widow{for} > Clegg,Mr. Forster, Mrs.& her da Pilkingtons. The. > Cole, Mr. Forster, Miss Catherine. Roscrow,Miss. > Cole, Capt.Mich. Frith,Rich. Silcock, Mr. > Corporation, The. Frith, Wm. Silcock, Wm. > Craig, Jane. Hall, Jas. Sowden,Robt. > Crawford, Andr. Hall, Mrs. Sowden, Sam. > Crawford, Robt. Hamilton, Patr. Surplice, Mrs. > Crawford, Mr. Higinbothham,Mrs. Thompson, Jas. > Cue, Jo. Higinbotham,Rev.Newburgh. West, Chris. > Cue, Thos. Howard, Wm. Wilson, John. > Cue, Wm. Hynds,John. Whittacker, John. > > page 164. > > 1758-9. Rev. Richard Vincent, Rev.Henry Cole, Dr. Scott. > The Provost. > 1766- Rev. Mark Noble {for school} > 1774- Beacom, Wm. Robinson, Chris. > 1779- Mulligan, Mary. Estherby, Nicholas. > 1819-" North pew in north angle of lower part of Church to be for > inhabitants of Townlands of Garvary and Killyville: to be erected by said > inhabitants." > Gallery Pews. > Ross,Alex {1768.} Corry, Laurence {'69} Mount Florence, Lord { ' 71} > Noble, Rev. Mark and Smyth Rev. Thos. { ' 77 } Gallery for the Military { ' > 92 }. Mr. Hudson, of Belleview { '97 } > > Allocation of pews in the new Church of Enniskillen, 1845. > > Ground floor south. > > Nos. 1 to 10 not allocated. > 11. R.Clegg, Miss Morrison & Crooke family. 37. W. Lucy{Thomas.Cooke,'50. > 12. 13. not allocated 36. Geo. Irvine. > 14. Jas. M'Cartin. > 35.Miss.Morrison & Crooke fam. > 15. Miss Whittaker. {Mr.} Cole & > Mrs.Adams,67. > 16. Thos. Kernaghan. 34. Mrs. Brien. > 17. Geo.Spear,Mr.Hudson. 33.Geo. Rankin. > 18. Paul Dane. 32. Jas.Frith. > 19. Paul Dane. 31. John Wood{ > Jo. Graham. 65. > 20. Paul Dane. 30. Thos. > Kernaghan. > 45 to 39 Not allocated. 29. Geo.Spear, with 1/2 > no. 17.{A.Collum, ' 58.} > 38. Curate. 28.Misses Hall's > Representives. > 27.Rich. > Ball. > 26. Dr. > Frith. > Cross Seats South. > > 21. Sam. Frith 24. > Dr.Nixon{Wm.Kettyle,' 56.} > 22. Wm. Muldoon 25. Earl. of > Enniskillen. > 23. Mrs. Gamble. > > Gallery South. > > 1. not allocated 12 and 13. Rector > 2 and 3. Singers 14. Hazlett, Betty. > 4.Messrs.T.Whittaker & Bell. 15 and 16. Not allocated. > 5 to 8. not allocated. 17. Wm.Kittson.{Geo. > Black,' 57.} > 9. Mrs. Willis. 18 and 19. Marquis > of Ely. > 10.Messrs.Gallogly & Wilkin. 20.Rev. John Frith > 11.John.Collum. 21. Thos. Wood. > 22 and 23 not allocated. > > Ground Floor.north. > > 65. Miss. Hassard. 54. Mr. Bleakley. > 64. Geo. Crook. 53 to 46 not allocated. > 63. Miss. Armstrong. 71. R.Keys. > 62. Mr.Hudson, with 1/2 of 17. 72. R.Keys. > 61. Mr.Kirkpatrick. 73. R.Crawford. > 60. Mr.Henderson. 74.Mr.Irwin. > 59. Miss.Frith,Tonystick. 75.Mr. Kirkpatrick. > 58. Jas. Chittick. 76. Wm. Armstrong. > 57. Grey. Archdall. 77 to 83. not allocated. > 56.Mr. Faulkner. 84. Earl of Belmore's > Servants. > 55. R.Clegg, with 1/2 of no.11. 85 to 90. Not allocated. > > Cross seats North. > > 66.to 68. Earl of Belmore. 70. Mr.Robinson,Misses Margaret > & > 69. Mr. Fitzgerald & Mr. Keys. Franses Brien. > .A. Rice,' 54. Fredk.Nixon soon afterwards. > > Gallery North. > > 24. Not allocated. 37. Geo. Frith > 25. Miss Magee 38 and 39 not allocated > 26. W. Galbraith 40. Wm.Hall. > 27. Stewart. Betty. 41. George Irvine > 28 to 31. not allocated 42. Archibald Collum > 32. Sam. Little,Purchased ' 58. 43. Liddle Baxter{Jas.Hall' 49. > Geo.Stewart' 53. > 33. R.Betty 44. Wm. Crookes. > 34. Geo.Wood. 45. and 46. not allocated. > 35. Dr. Ovenden. > 36.H.Parkinson. > > > > > > from Belinda >

In a message dated 6/16/99 11:02:54 PM, fermor@juno.com wrote: <<Does anyone have any information on what I have read is a Fermanagh "Erenagh" family historically named MacScollog which changed it's name to Farmer. I research Farmer/Fermor lines and have been curious about this family for some time but have never found any solid information about them.>> P. Livingstone's The Fermanagh Story says: FARMER (Mac Scoloige) [accent over 2nd o] This family was common in Aghalurcher where they were herenachs and later in Cleenish. They were also herenachs of Rossory and gave some clerics to the church. In 1796 James was a freeholder at Rossory; Owen and Brian were freeholders at Cleenish and Edward and Terrence were freeholders at Derryvullan. There are 40 Farmer voters today. ["today" means 1969, year of publication] Hope this helps! Janet C-S

before anyone thinks to ask me....and in case anyone is interested, there are sites all over the place to get Irish Ordnance Survey Maps from what i remember. The following is a list of some URL's I've collected in relation to Ordnance Survey maps and the memoirs. I don't know if they are all working or not still, I've not checked them out, just kept the list. Some of them will have indices to placesnames, others may not, some may give costs others may not. Some costs may vary on what I have here depending on how long ago I filed the URL. OSme may be busy and you may not get into them now, but will later. I know absolutely nothing about any one of these other than I have it in my URL file. Jane Ireland: Ordnance Survey Memoirs http://www2.smart.net/~aihdrh/osmem100.html Ordnance Survey Ireland web site is found at: http://www.irlgov.ie/osi/Pages/main/main1.htm Ordnance survey maps <www.netins.net/showcase/travelgenie/Ireland.htm> Ordnance survey maps http://www.mapsworldwide.com. Ordnance Survey Maps: Newberry lib chicago,Illinois: $7 per copy http:///www.newberry.org/ Ordnance Survey: Searchable index http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/os.html Ordnance Survey:cites, p.4: http://www.nova.co.uk/nova/pages/map/htm OS maps from OS office ireland http://www.irlgov.ie/osi/Pages/maps/mindex.htm OS maps: £4.50 plus postage http://www.rallymap.demon.co.uk OS maps: Shows number you ned for area http://www.elstead.co.uk/d/dis011.htm

Irish Geography People tend to pen their ancestors in, they have a townland name, a parish name, a county name and no matter what is said to them they will focus on that once name. It wasn't until I began to look at maps for other countries that I understood this. If I take a map of America and look at that, the states, they all have nice straight boundaries. Then, within states, the roads are straight, organised, hardly a space which looks unoccupied to my Irish mind. If I look at a map of Ireland and our counties, they're all over the place, no such thing as a straight line, they blend together, meander into one another. Not only can one county look like there are bits of it in another county, but part of a county can lie between two counties. There is no fixed definite shape or pattern to Irish counties. As if this wasn't bad enough, counties are further subdivided, we have Baronies, Religious Dioceses which spread over a few counties, Catholic and Protestant Boundaries for somewhere of the same name not being in the same place, the Religious Dioceses are subdivided into Religious Parishes, we have civil parishes, we have towns and townlands. We also have names for houses or farms. There are Poor Law Unions, legal divisions. The numbers of religious parishes may have changed over the years, increasing or decreasing depending on how many parishioners there were in an area, depending on whether or not there were religious in the area to serve that parish. One thing I have noticed over the years, is that people don't realise the size of the area they are dealing with. Take for example a map of Ireland, compare it to a map of the States. As an Irish person, regardless of the key telling me what distance is equal to a mile, I still tend to relate the two maps in one way or another. I once told someone that a place was only a little bit away from where they were, relatively speaking. It turned out that the friend laughed at the good of it, told me he would buy me a map and that the two places were 600 miles apart. I think Irish, the searchers from outside Ireland will generally tend to think in a manner which will suit their country. I think small, they generally think big. There will be a few who manage to get over that mental hurdle, and who will comprehend the size differences, but not many. The first thing searchers have to do is think 'small', think Irish, and always remember that here in this country for any small town or village there will be a core number of people who are descended from those who left. Twenty or thirty years ago, when someone moved in to any town or village, they were 'blow-in's'. They still are today, but not as noticeable this isn 't, because we move around more often, work brings us from place to place. Today, fewer will leave their home town permanently, they will travel home at the weekends, they will commute to wherever they work. The towns and villages are not dying as they did in the past, their populations are not necessarily shrinking like they did in the past, and so it is harder to find that original 'core' group of families. To go back through the genealogical information on any core group of families in any town or village it will be found that each of these families is related to the other in some way, somehow. Contradicting, or seeming to everything I have said above, that the searchers should not pen their ancestors in, believe that these people did not move around, and that there are core families in any area, there is the fact that yes, they did move from place to place, or some of them did. You need to become familiar with our geography. For any county that you have a townland name for, you need to check out the various division names associated with that place. This you can do by visiting one of the townland sites available on the net. These really show you nothing, tell you little other than to give you more place names to be concerned with. However, then you can also visit various sites available which 'sell' Ordnance Survey maps for Ireland. Each county is broken up into a number of divisions. Each county has a number of OS maps associated with it. These do not necessarily cover only the one county, there may be information or bits of three or four counties on a map. The maps themselves are not indexed so it is necessary for you to go through them square by square looking for the townland/placename in which you have an interest. While the maps are not indexed, there are indices available at some of the sites and using these you can find out which map you actually need. These maps are relatively cheap. People ask about copies of original OS maps which can be bought from the Irish OS office, containing great detail and dating from the mid 1800's, showing the layout of the land, houses on it etc. These are expensive, but nice to have and look at. However, I don't recommend that you go out and buy any of these until you have positively identified the area in which you are interested using the cheaper, smaller OS maps. Then, do so. The placenames on the current OS maps have not changed that much from the names used on the 18?? Maps. One of the problems encountered with townland names is that any county may have had three or four townlands of the same name. This makes it hard to decide exactly where you should be interested in for definite. With the aid of these maps, you can judge the size of townlands, the closest local market town, the locations of churches and graveyards in the area. You still have to find and work your way through any records which would be available for that area, but you can make the journey smaller by concentrating initially on the biggest townland. Some of our townlands are no more than the size of a field. If you have a place name and there is only one of that name occurring in a county, then you treat this as the centre point on a dart board. The Bulls Eye so to speak. Remember our geography, the way counties sit together, mix in with one another. You work your way round that area, making the circle bigger and bigger as your search goes on, as time passes, taking into account any places in those rings which are found in other counties. Remember this, they were not penned in, just because someone said they came from this place or that place, doesn't mean that the closest church for their religion was actually found in that parish. You could live in one parish and the closest church could be in another parish, another county, but sit in the field next door. How many of us would walk miles and miles to our Parish church if we had another church 5 minute's walk down the road? Think small, simple, easy, shortest route.

Does anyone have any information on what I have read is a Fermanagh "Erenagh" family historically named MacScollog which changed it's name to Farmer. I research Farmer/Fermor lines and have been curious about this family for some time but have never found any solid information about them. In Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Dave Farmer ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Looking for information on the Mundy family who used a variety of spellings and were once known as McAloon. My GG Grandfather Philip was born in Fermanagh about 1790. His parents were Peter and Margaret Corrigan. He married a Catherine Mullanphy befor emigrating to St. Louis Co., Missouri Territory about 1819. Earl Mundy Mundy3@ aol.com