I would like to thank all those who contacted me personally or through the lists in response to that post. I have tried to respond personaly to as many as possible....but I would be here for a few weeks if I thanked everyone individually. I would also like to say that I have not been asked 'not' to post to any list the message went out to. To anyone who asked me anything over the last few days I have responded to those messages I could answer off the top of my head. To others who I could not answer immediately.....I'll answer when and if I can find out what the response should be :-) and finally, I honestly thought I was just saying/explaing something to the lists re my religious posts and never in this wide and earthly world expected any kind of a response. *But* it has been really nice to get all those mails...and comments Thank you, Jane

I'm changing my address to my Genealogy mail list. Sobotka2@Juno.com I will continue to monitor the web page with Marmim, but just prefer receiving from the list at the other address Researching Ann Birnie (Byrnie, Bernie etc.) m. John Dillon May of 1848 or 9 in Co Fermanagh, Ireland. Ann's first marriage was to a McNulty. Thank you Marilyn Salem, OR

Catriona, You could try writing to Heritage World in Dungannon, Co Tyrone. They have computerised inscriptions for more than 300 NI graveyards. Of course they charge a fee, but it might be worth it. However, ask first whether they have the one you want. Their url is: http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/FnghTyrn.htm You can contact them by email also. Janet C-S

We just returned from our 4 day rental car visit to Fermamagh and want to thank all of you who contributed to the background we needed for this first vist. We started subscribing 01 Jan 99 and have all 164 issues to date edited for size and converted into printout and floppy disks so we can refer to your data as we write up the history of Margaret SCARLETT m Christopher LITTLE 1812, in Aghalurcher then emigrated 1818 with baby David to Cobourg Ontario 1818. Have great collection of photos to share with anyone who may be related. Will now shut down computer until Sept, so have unsubscribed for now. Good luck, see you later! Anne & Doug

-----Original Message----- From: Ruben Twenter <rtwenter@iland.net> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 6:19 AM Subject: Great grandparents >Patrick Johnston was born May 3, 1831 and Bridget McDonald was born November >12, 1833. They were born in Fermanagh County Ireland. They were Catholics >but don't know what what the name of the church is where they were baptized. >They were my great grandparents. I would like and appreciate any >information anyone might come upon about them. I really don't know who to >contact about getting this sort of information. Would like to go to Ireland >but that is impossible so I'm trying the best to find out about my great >grandparents some other way. Thanks again. I really appreciate your help >in this matter. > >Sincerely, >Pat Twenter >-----Original Message----- >From: Ruben Twenter <rtwenter@iland.net> >To: Fermanagh <Fermanagh-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 8:08 AM >Subject: Fw: info request > > >>Has anyone ever come across the names Patrick Johnston born on May 3, 1831 >>or Bridget McDonald born November 12, 1833? They were in Fermanagh county >>and were catholics. Don't know what the name of the church is where >>baptized. Would like any information that I can get on them. They were my >>great parents. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Vic obradain <obradain@nex.com.au> >>To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 9:54 PM >>Subject: info request >> >> >>>Has anyone come across the names William Breadon, John Breadon or >>>Elizabeth Benman. John and Elizabeth fatherd William in 1876 or 77. >>>Believe they came from Lisnaskea but I could be wrong as my father told >>>me his father came from small place called Golden Sands. >>>Vic Breadon >>> >>> >> > >

Patrick Johnston was born May 3, 1831 and Bridget McDonald was born November 12, 1833. They were born in Fermanagh County Ireland. They were Catholics but don't know what what the name of the church is where they were baptized. They were my great grandparents. I would like and appreciate any information anyone might come upon about them. I really don't know who to contact about getting this sort of information. Would like to go to Ireland but that is impossible so I'm trying the best to find out about my great grandparents some other way. Thanks again. I really appreciate your help in this matter. Sincerely, Pat Twenter -----Original Message----- From: Ruben Twenter <rtwenter@iland.net> To: Fermanagh <Fermanagh-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 8:08 AM Subject: Fw: info request >Has anyone ever come across the names Patrick Johnston born on May 3, 1831 >or Bridget McDonald born November 12, 1833? They were in Fermanagh county >and were catholics. Don't know what the name of the church is where >baptized. Would like any information that I can get on them. They were my >great parents. >-----Original Message----- >From: Vic obradain <obradain@nex.com.au> >To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 9:54 PM >Subject: info request > > >>Has anyone come across the names William Breadon, John Breadon or >>Elizabeth Benman. John and Elizabeth fatherd William in 1876 or 77. >>Believe they came from Lisnaskea but I could be wrong as my father told >>me his father came from small place called Golden Sands. >>Vic Breadon >> >> >

Has anyone ever come across the names Patrick Johnston born on May 3, 1831 or Bridget McDonald born November 12, 1833? They were in Fermanagh county and were catholics. Don't know what the name of the church is where baptized. Would like any information that I can get on them. They were my great parents. -----Original Message----- From: Vic obradain <obradain@nex.com.au> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 9:54 PM Subject: info request >Has anyone come across the names William Breadon, John Breadon or >Elizabeth Benman. John and Elizabeth fatherd William in 1876 or 77. >Believe they came from Lisnaskea but I could be wrong as my father told >me his father came from small place called Golden Sands. >Vic Breadon > >

My name is Edward McManus, I am researching my G-Grandfather JAMES McMANUS who married my G-Grandmother MARY SCOTT, the marriage must have been around 1862 in Ireland,they had two daughters MARY McMANUS b.1863 Ireland. and MARGARET McMANUS b.1864 Ireland. JAMES and his brother EDWARD immigrated to Newstand Glasgow Scotland about 1865 where my Gfather EDWARD McMANUS was born in 1870. I believe James and his brother Edward may have lived in the area of ENNISKILLEN county FERMANAGH. If someone recognise's James or Mary I would be more than happy to be contacted on my private E-Mail. Ed. Rsearching- JAMES McMANUS-MARY SCOTT- JOHN HOOLAGHAN-MARGARET McGILL County Fermanagh.

In a message dated 7/4/99 9:12:57 AM, Supermac@mail.austasia.net wrote: <<JAMES and his brother EDWARD immigrated to Newstand Glasgow Scotland about 1865 where my Gfather EDWARD McMANUS >> Ed, if I am not mistaken, (and someone else please help here) Scottish birth certs give the place where the parents were married. Have you gotten a birth cert. for Edward? Also, since one child was born in 1864, after Civ Registration started in Ireland, you should be able to find the birth record for her in Ireland. This would help you pin down the parish. You can check McManus births on the birth index at the FHCs. Then when you find a likely one, write to the GRO in Belfast for a copy of the record. Good luck, JAnet C-S

Has anyone come across the names William Breadon, John Breadon or Elizabeth Benman. John and Elizabeth fatherd William in 1876 or 77. Believe they came from Lisnaskea but I could be wrong as my father told me his father came from small place called Golden Sands. Vic Breadon

Jane O'Brien- If you are "unsubbed" it is our loss. Thank you for your "general" but quite pertinent assistance. Jack John M.Shiels Mendham, NJ Researching Besson, Chardon (Switzerland 1600-1900 ) Shiels, Gallagher, Scott, Kelly, Kennedy, Gibbons ( Ireland pre-1900s) 10:20 PM Saturday, July 03, 1999

Thank you all especially Janet C-S and Pat Traynor, It's amazing the knowledge this wonderful list has. And the sources we have to help us. Thank you thank you Thank you. Your assistance has been invaluable. I have learned so very very much. My great grand father's residence is the only one that could be Aughalurcher Glebe a townland or Aghalurcher parish. I will start with Aghalurcher glebe and the nearest church. Hopefully it will have records in the 1800-1830 range. I will cut and paste only a portion of the wonderful responses: An incredibly valueable site- Most likely it was townlands. If you go to the PRONI site and use the goegraphical index, you can pull up a list of townlands in any parish. http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/geogindx.htm Found >under residence some of the places were; > >Aughalurcher >Dromeborry > >Derrycannon >Derrycannon I see what looks like the name Derrycanon Lake, just up from Drumgorgan on the road to Lisnaskea. >Derrycannon >Gole >looks like Cornakill >looks like Ceiglum very hard to read, quill pen and handwriting. Cornakill is about 3/4 of a mi. NE of Drumgorgan on road B127? to Lisnaskea. >Deravore?? >Deravore ??? I see a DERRYVORE 1-1/2 mi. SE of Drumgorgan. About 4 mi. E. of Teemore which is on road A509 and shows on my Ordnance Survey "Holiday Map", (commonly found as a road map in Ireland for about 4 pounds). It is about 1-1/2 mi. WSW of Crom Castle. > >Looks like Gortmullan--- two possibilities probably the second; Gortmellan Tyrone dounty Divison Cullion 2 Donaghedy parish AND Gortmullan 315 Knockninny Tomregan Lisnaskea >looks likeKlintinose or Klintinese Kiltycrose, Fermanagh county, Division Drumshimuck, 41, Kinawley parish(I think this is it) >Laraugh >Looks like Gortgorgon, or Godgorgon ------------ I think "glebe" means church land. TOWNLAND AREA BARONY CIVIL PARISH POOR LAW UNION Aghalurcher Glebe 47 Magherastephana Aghalurcher Lisnaskea Gortmullan 315 Knockninny Tomregan Lisnaskea Gortgorgan 284 Knockninny Kinawley Lisnaskea Gortgorgan is at the crossroads, 2-1/2 mi. SE of Derrylin. All in Kinawley parish; Dumboory is Fermanagh county Division Crum 39 Derrycanon is Fermanagh Div Crum 39 Derryvore, Ferm, DivCrum 39 & 42 Geiglum Ferm DivCrum 39 Gole Ferm Div Crum 39 Gortgorgan Ferm Div Crum 39 Cornakill Ferm Div Crum 39 Laragh Ferm Div Kinglass 33 Thank you so much!! Does anyone know what church Aghalurcher Glebe people would have attended? I have a map but do not see a near by church, I will check some other maps and see. thanks so very very much. sincerely, Joy Want a NEW CAR and don't like making car payments. Check out http://www.freecarpayments.com/2559/bonus.htm

Years ago I used to correspond with a man who was the local historian, and lived at, Lisnarick and he sent me one page of headstone inscriptions from Lisnarick graveyard because it had a KELLY grave listed. I now realise that someone has gone through at some time and done all the headstone inscriptions for this graveyard. I have no idea where my correspondent got this one page from (no I can't write and ask him, even though I am half a world away and he is old enough to be my grandfather, his wife won't let us write to each other anymore!?) and was wondering if anyone else might know? I would dearly like a copy of the complete listing and now realise, after reading Jane O'Brien's comments on headstone inscriptions not being recorded, that this is a valuable piece of information. Lisnarick is in Derryvullan parish. Regards, Catriona KELLY Brisbane, Queensland, Australia KELLY; STINSON / STEPHENSON / STENSON; JOHNSTON.

Jane, don't you ever say I'm sorry about what you post. What you have done is great. All those sites that you provided are fantastic. It took a lot of research and time. Please don't ever leave the Fermanagh site. We will just have to come looking for you. DeLories JDVon@aol.com

"Sask" <djsk@home.com> wrote........... >Dear Friends on the Fermanagh List, >.................... >I am trying to determine IF the minister was recording parishes or >townlands, or towns are residences in the 1826 marriage registers. Thanks in >advance. I tried a couple different maps, and a microflim Gazetter from >1841. > >Here goes listed for Holy Trinity church Kinawley parish, minister Archibald >Crawford. >................... >under residence some of the places were; > >Aughalurcher >Dromeborry > >Derrycannon >Derrycannon I see what looks like the name Derrycanon Lake, just up from Drumgorgan on the road to Lisnaskea. >Derrycannon >Gole >looks like Cornakill >looks like Ceiglum very hard to read, quill pen and handwriting. Cornakill is about 3/4 of a mi. NE of Drumgorgan on road B127? to Lisnaskea. >Deravore?? >Deravore ??? I see a DERRYVORE 1-1/2 mi. SE of Drumgorgan. About 4 mi. E. of Teemore which is on road A509 and shows on my Ordnance Survey "Holiday Map", (commonly found as a road map in Ireland for about 4 pounds). It is about 1-1/2 mi. WSW of Crom Castle. > >Looks like Gortmullan >looks likeKlintinose or Klintinese >Laraugh >Looks like Gortgorgon, or Godgorgon (See below) Could not locate the other placenames as my eyes were getting bleary from gazing through the magnifying glass at the copy of the map someone sent me. >I am hoping Aughalurcher is Aghalurcher Glebe, and I am 90% certain that >Drumborry is what was spelt Dromeborry. (The y looks like a u)This is the >listing for my Great Grandparents. >Sincerest thanks, Joy Irene ================================================ Is Holy Trinity the name of the church in the town of Kinawley? Catholic or Protestant? I was there, but guess I never got the name of the church. I find that there was another KINAWLEY church in Derrylin. I have the tombstone inscriptions for the church cemetary in Kinawley, and a photo of it too. ------------ I think "glebe" means church land. TOWNLAND AREA BARONY CIVIL PARISH POOR LAW UNION Aghalurcher Glebe 47 Magherastephana Aghalurcher Lisnaskea Gortmullan 315 Knockninny Tomregan Lisnaskea Gortgorgan 284 Knockninny Kinawley Lisnaskea Gortgorgan is at the crossroads, 2-1/2 mi. SE of Derrylin. Gortgall 620 Clanawley Boho Enniskillen Gortgarran 55 Magherastephana Aghalurcher Lisnaskea Gortgarvan 129 Clankelly Galloon Clones Gortgeran 136 Lurg Drumkeeran Lowtherstown Gortgommon 112 Coole Galloon Clones Gortgonnell 43 Tirkennedy Enniskillen Enniskillen Gortgor 72 Magheraboy Devenish Enniskillen Gortgranagh 225 Coole Galloon Lisnaskea Gortgullenan 71 Clanawley Killesher Enniskillen -------------------------- *FERMANAGH: ============================================================ NOTES: ===== Although the range of dates extends over the period 1848-64, most Griffith Valuations date to the 1850s; and they cover roughly 70-80 per cent of the occupiers of property in Ireland. The published valuation records are available on paper and in microfiche format. The dates of the Tithe Applotment Books or TABs depend on the parishes. The range of dates extends over the period 1803-62. However, most of them date to the 1820s and 1830s. =========================== The Civil Parishes of County Fermanagh 1 Aghalurcher 2 Aghavea 3 Belleek 4 Boho 5 Clones 6 Cleenish 7 Derrybrusk 8 Derryvullan 9 Devenish 10 Drumkeeran 11 Drummully 12 Enniskillen 13 Galloon 14 Inishmacsaint 15 Killesher 16 Kinawley 17 Magheracross 18 Magheraculmoney 19 Rossorry 20 Templecarn 21 Tomregan 22 Trory ================= These names may have some connection with the above list???? My archives were scrambled...... Aghnamullen Derryvullan North Derryvullan and Trory =========================== From; Ireland Gen Web --------------- Presbyterian Church Records - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taken from Presbyterian Historical Society Archives, Belfast, Ireland and transcribed for internet and non-commercial usage with their permission. To contact the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, please click on this link: To Email the Presbytrerian Church for Information on Location of Records - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fermanagh Enniskillen 1837 Fermanagh Lisbellaw 1849 Fermanagh Pettigo 1844 =================== End of GenWeb............ Fermanagh names: MacCaffrey, MacEnteggart, MacGarrahan, MacGilfinnen, Lord, MacGuire, Prince, MacLennon, MacLeonard, Lord MacManus, MacTiernan, MacTully, Magrath, O'Breslin (Brehon), O'Casey, O'Cassidy, Chief, O'Corrigan, O'Devin, Lord, O'Donnegan, O'Felan, O'Flannagan, Lord, O'Gorman, O'Heaney, Chief, O'Hosey, O'Keenan, Chief, O'Luinin, O'Meehan, O'Muldoon, Chief, O'Mulrooney, O'Tracy, O'Tully, -------------------- CATH.PARISHES; Records from: Aghavea 1862 Aughalurcher (Lisnaskea) 1835 Carn (Belleek) 1851 Cleenish 1835 Culmaine 1836 Devenish 1853 Enniskillen 1838 Galoon 1853 Inishmacsaint 1848 Irvinestown 1846 Roslea 1862 Tempo 1845 ============== The Civil Parishes of County Tyrone 1 Aghaloo 2 Aghalurcher 3 Arboe 4 Ardstraw 5 Artrea 6 Ballinderry 7 Ballyclog 8 Bodoney Lower 9 Bodoney Upper 10 Camus11Cappagh 12 Carnteel 13 Clogher 14 Clogherny 15 Clonfeacle 16 Clonloe 17 Derryloran 18 Desertcreat 19 Donacavey 20 Donaghedy 21 Donaghenry 22 Donaghmore 23 Dromore 24 Drumglass 25 Drumragh 26 Errigal Keerogue 27 Errigal Trough 28 Kildress 29 Killeeshil 30 Killyman 31 Kilskeery 32 Learmount 33 Leckpatrick 34 Lissan 35 Longfield East 36 Longfield West 37 Magheracross 38 Pomeroy 39 Tamlaght 40 Termonamongan 41 Termonmaguirk 42 Tullyniskan 43 Urney =============== The Civil Parishes of County Armagh 1 Armagh 2 Ballymore 3 Ballymore 4 Clonfeacle 5 Creggan 6 Derrynoose 7 Drumcree 8 Eglish 9 Forkill 10 Grange 11 Jonesborough 12 Keady 13 Kilclooney 14 Kildarton 15 Killevy 16 Killyman 17 Kilmore 18 Lisnadill 19 Loughgall 20 Loughgilly 21 Magheralin 22 Montiaghs 23 Mullaghbrack 24 Newry 25 Newtownhamilton 26 Seagoe 27 Shankill 28 Tartaraghan 29 Tynan ============================================================ The Civil Parishes of County Antrim (I have ANTRIM.JPG parish map) 1 Aghagallon 2 Aghalee 3 Ahoghill 4 Antrim 5 Ardclinis 6 Armoy 7 Ballinderry 8 Ballintoy 9 Ballyclug 10 Ballycor 11 Ballylinny 12 Ballymartin 13 Ballymoney 14 Ballynure 15 Ballyrashane 16 Ballyscullion 17 Ballywillin 18 Belfast 19 Billy 20 Blaris 21 Camlin 22 Carncastle 23 Carnmoney 24 Carrickfergus & St. Nicholas 25 Connor 26 Craigs 27 Cranfield 28 Culfeightrin 29 Derryaghy 30 Derrkeighan 31 Donegore 32 Drumbeg 33 Drummaul 34 Dunaghy 35 Duneane 36 Dunluce 37 Finvoy 38 Glenavy 39 Glenwhirry 40 Glynn 41 Grange of Ballyscullion 42 Grange of Doagh 43 Grange of Drumtullagh 44 Grange of Dundermot 45 Grange of Inispollan 46 Grange of Killyglen 47 Grange of Layd 48 Grange of Muckamore 49 Grange of Nilteen 50 Grange of Shilvodan 51 Inver 52 Island Magee 53 Kilbride 54 Killagan 55 Killead 56 Killraghts 57 Kilroot 58 Kilwaughter 59 Kirkinriola 60 Lambeg61Larne 62 Layd 63 Loughguile 64 Magheragall 65 Magheramesk 66 Newton Crommelin 67 Portglenone 68 Racavan 69 Raloo 70 Ramoan 71 Rasharkin 72 Rashee 73 Rathlin 74 Shankill 75 Skerry 76 Templecorran 77 Templepatrick 78 Tickmacrevan 79 Tullyrusk ============= The Civil Parishes of County Cavan 1 Annagelliff 2 Annagh 3 Ballintemple 4 Bailieborough 5 Ballymachugh 6 Castlerahan 7 Castleterra 8 Crosserlough 9 Denn 10 Drumgoon 11 Drumlane 12 Drumlumman 13 Drumreilly 14 Drung 15 Enniskeen 16 Kilbride 17 Kildallan 18 Kildrumsherdan 19 Killashandra 20 Killinagh 21 Killinkere 22 Kilmore 23 Kinawley 24 Knockbride 25 Larah 26 Lavey 27 Loughan of Castlekeeran 28 Lurgan 29 Moybolgue 30 Mullagh 31 Munterconnaught 32 Scrabby 33 Shercock 34 Templeport 35 Tomregan 36 Urney ============= The Civil Parishes of County Donegal 1 Aghanunshin 2 Allsaints 3 Aughnish 4 Barr of Inch 5 Burt6Clonca 7 Clondahorky 8 Clondavaddog 9 Clonleigh 10 Clonmany 11 Convoy 12 Conwal 13 Culdaff 14 Desertegny 15 Donagh 16 Donaghmore 17 Donegal 18 Drumhome 19 Fahan Lower 20 Fahan Upper 21 Gartan 22 Glencolumbkille 23 Kilbarron 24 Kilcar 25 Killaghtee 26 Killea 27 Killybegs Upper 28 Killybegs Lower 29 Killygarvan 30 Killymard 31 Kilmacrenan 32 Kilteevoge 33 Inch 34 Inishkeel 35 Inishmacsaint 36 Inver 37 Leck 38 Lettermacaward 39 Mevagh 40 Moville Lower 41 Moville Upper 42 Muff 43 Raphoe 44 Raymoghy 45 Raymunterdoney 46 Stranorlar 47 Taughboyne 48 Templecarn 49 Templecrone 50 Tullaghobegley 51 Tullyfern 52 Urney ============ The Civil Parishes of County Down 1 Aghaderg 2 Annaclone 3 Annahilt 4 Ardglass 5 Ardkeen 6 Ardquin 7 Ballee 8 Ballyculter 9 Ballyhalbert 10 Ballykinler 11 Ballyphilip 12 Ballytrustan 13 Ballywalter 14 Bangor 15 Blaris 16 Bright 17 Castleboy 18 Clonallan 19 Clonduff 20 Comber 21 Donaghadee 22 Donaghcloney 23 Donaghmore 24 Down 25 Dromara 26 Dromore 27 Drumballyroney 28 Drumbeg 29 Drumbo 30 Drumgath 31 Drumgooland 32 Dundonald 33 Dunsfort 34 Garvaghy 35 Grey Abbey 36 Hillsborough 37 Holywood 38 Inch 39 Inishargy 40 Kilbroney 41 Kilclief 42 Kilcoo 43 Kilkeel 44 Killaney 45 Killinchy 46 Killyleagh 47 Kilmegan 48 Kilmood 49 Kilmore 50 Knockbreda 51 Lambeg 52 Loughinisland 53 Maghera 54 Magheradrool 55 Magherahamlet 56 Magheralin 57 Magherally 58 Moira 59 Newry 60 Newtonards 61 Rathmullan 62 Saintfield 63 Saul64Seapatrick 65 Shankill 66 Slanes 67 Tullylish 68 Tullynakill 69 Tyrella 70 Warrenpoint ============= Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net

Sask wrote: > Dear Friends on the Fermanagh List, > > I am hoping someone will take a moment and give me their opinion. > > I am trying to determine IF the minister was recording parishes or > townlands, or towns are residences in the 1826 marriage registers. Thanks in > advance. I tried a couple different maps, and a microflim Gazetter from > 1841. > > Here goes listed for Holy Trinity church Kinawley parish, minister Archibald > Crawford. > There were only seven marriages recorded on the microfilm I ordered, one was > myGreat Grandparents > under residence some of the places were; > > Aughalurcher > Dromeborry > > Derrycannon > Derrycannon > > Derrycannon > Gole > > looks like Cornakill > looks like Ceiglum very hard to read, quill pen and handwriting > > Deravore?? > Deravore ??? > > Looks like Gortmullan > looks likeKlintinose or Klintinese > > Laraugh > Looks like Gortgorgon, or Godgorgon > > I am hoping Aughalurcher is Aghalurcher Glebe, and I am 90% certain that > Drumborry is what was spelt Dromeborry. (The y looks like a u)This is the > listing for my Great Grandparents. > > Thank you for your time. I am struggling with reading the hand writing, but > went through a list of parishes and didn't find the above. (Yes there is an > Aghlurcher parish, and it's huge!) > > Thanks again for your time. I am hoping someone on the list from Fermanagh > might make heads or tails of what these names are and mean. > > Sincerest thanks, Joy Irene > > Want a NEW CAR and don't like making car payments. Check out > http://www.freecarpayments.com/2559/bonus.htm I don't know if this will help but I had a search done throught the Ulster Historical Foundation which is showing the names of Drumbockla, Aghlurcher parish. Some of the other places it mentions: Derryvullen, Devenish, Dresternan, Dislygore, Killcorran (these last two in Monaghan) Any chance you might have run across any of the names I'm researching? Mavity, Mavitty, Maveety, McVitty, McVittie etc.... Thanks Brian Mavity California

Dear Friends on the Fermanagh List, I am hoping someone will take a moment and give me their opinion. I am trying to determine IF the minister was recording parishes or townlands, or towns are residences in the 1826 marriage registers. Thanks in advance. I tried a couple different maps, and a microflim Gazetter from 1841. Here goes listed for Holy Trinity church Kinawley parish, minister Archibald Crawford. There were only seven marriages recorded on the microfilm I ordered, one was myGreat Grandparents under residence some of the places were; Aughalurcher Dromeborry Derrycannon Derrycannon Derrycannon Gole looks like Cornakill looks like Ceiglum very hard to read, quill pen and handwriting Deravore?? Deravore ??? Looks like Gortmullan looks likeKlintinose or Klintinese Laraugh Looks like Gortgorgon, or Godgorgon I am hoping Aughalurcher is Aghalurcher Glebe, and I am 90% certain that Drumborry is what was spelt Dromeborry. (The y looks like a u)This is the listing for my Great Grandparents. Thank you for your time. I am struggling with reading the hand writing, but went through a list of parishes and didn't find the above. (Yes there is an Aghlurcher parish, and it's huge!) Thanks again for your time. I am hoping someone on the list from Fermanagh might make heads or tails of what these names are and mean. Sincerest thanks, Joy Irene Want a NEW CAR and don't like making car payments. Check out http://www.freecarpayments.com/2559/bonus.htm

Joy, Most likely it was townlands. If you go to the PRONI site and use the goegraphical index, you can pull up a list of townlands in Aghalurcher parish. http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/geogindx.htm Click on Parishes, then Aghalurcher. Then you can match the names to what the bad handwriting looks like! Someoday they will have a map on the PRONI site for each parish showing each townland, but they haven't done Fermanagh yet. Good luck, Janet C-S

Jane, I forgot to mention that I don't think the religion that one adheres to is relevant to researching genealogy. Fo myself I am what I am by pot luck - a sort of "eeny, meeny, miny, mo - pot luck as several generations of my Irish ancestors are mixed religion and every other child was baptised in one/other religion. And they all got along fine. My Irish g grandparents were married in a religious ceremony on the gold fileds in Victoria in "the Live and Let Live Hotel" which was used by various religions for their services. I always thing it is a sign to me to respect and accept any persons choice and get along with life. Regards Elizabeth ---------- > From: Jane O'Brien <jayohbee@iol.ie> > To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: My recent Posts > Date: Saturday, 3 July 1999 6:14 > > First of all I would like to thank those of you who came to my aid or > commisserated with me on the loss of all my mail a week or so ago. Too many > replied to that post to be able to get back to you all...... > > So, thank you. > > > Secondly: My posts re the religions over the last few days. > > I am not a 'half Catholic or a good Prod" and I do not post rubbish. > > Those recent posts were not made with the intention of running down any > religion in this country. Neither were they made for the good of my health > or because I have a notion that you should all be educated on other > religions. > > I began this series of posts for two reasons. The first being my usual > inclination to try and explain the various divisions of Ireland and how > records may be found in one place when you think you should be looking in > another, and the second being that there are many people whose ancestors > converted from one religion to another and again this ties in with our > divisions and parochial boundaries... > > My belief is that what i have posted is related to genealogy, because if you > don't know where you should be looking in records then how can you find > people? You can't just throw a name at a list and hope to God that some > person will suddenly jump up and say I have them in my tree...and what good > is that to you if you can't find the roots, but do find lots of branches and > twigs. > > While the posts over the last few days have been general they were leading > up to a more detailed breakdown of divisions, the names of parishes and > congregations as per county and more importantly the changes in these names > after a gap of about 100 years and the increase or decrease absence of > parishes and congregations after this time. > > While my general posts were sent to a number of lists as they were finished, > the individual county posts can only be done at a certain pace and even at > that it will take more than one day to do each county, including whatever > information I have for each religion in that county. > > I have been thrown off lists in the past and I have been asked not to post > to certain lists because what i do is 'general' and not pertinent to > particular counties, areas. I know that i get asked if posts of mine can be > included on web pages, in newsletters, forwarded to other newsgroups. I > also know that there are others whoh do this without asking me first. i know > that there are those well wishers on any general list who would see a post > which they consider pertinent to another list and just forward it. > > I would appreciate it greatly if anyone who ever considers forwarding any > post of mine to any other list would ask me first. it may be that the list > is one I have been asked not to post to, and I do not want to offend any > more listowners than necessary. > > Also, it is a very uncomfortable feeling to find yourself being unsubbed > from a list you have already been unsubbed from a long time ago.....you get > to wonder if there are fairies inside your computer. > > Thank you for reading this. > > Jane >

Thanks Jane for your most relevant and helpful information. I also do not believe in throwing a name at a list as I have never ever found any connections this way. However, by learning about history and how parishes are divided and so on, i have managed to find information for myself. I do love researching - from a tid bit to the whole cake - and it can be done. Your information is of great assistance to those who love to follow up a clue. Thanks , Elizabeth ---------- > From: Jane O'Brien <jayohbee@iol.ie> > To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: My recent Posts > Date: Saturday, 3 July 1999 6:14 > > First of all I would like to thank those of you who came to my aid or > commisserated with me on the loss of all my mail a week or so ago. Too many > replied to that post to be able to get back to you all...... > > So, thank you. > > > Secondly: My posts re the religions over the last few days. > > I am not a 'half Catholic or a good Prod" and I do not post rubbish. > > Those recent posts were not made with the intention of running down any > religion in this country. Neither were they made for the good of my health > or because I have a notion that you should all be educated on other > religions. > > I began this series of posts for two reasons. The first being my usual > inclination to try and explain the various divisions of Ireland and how > records may be found in one place when you think you should be looking in > another, and the second being that there are many people whose ancestors > converted from one religion to another and again this ties in with our > divisions and parochial boundaries... > > My belief is that what i have posted is related to genealogy, because if you > don't know where you should be looking in records then how can you find > people? You can't just throw a name at a list and hope to God that some > person will suddenly jump up and say I have them in my tree...and what good > is that to you if you can't find the roots, but do find lots of branches and > twigs. > > While the posts over the last few days have been general they were leading > up to a more detailed breakdown of divisions, the names of parishes and > congregations as per county and more importantly the changes in these names > after a gap of about 100 years and the increase or decrease absence of > parishes and congregations after this time. > > While my general posts were sent to a number of lists as they were finished, > the individual county posts can only be done at a certain pace and even at > that it will take more than one day to do each county, including whatever > information I have for each religion in that county. > > I have been thrown off lists in the past and I have been asked not to post > to certain lists because what i do is 'general' and not pertinent to > particular counties, areas. I know that i get asked if posts of mine can be > included on web pages, in newsletters, forwarded to other newsgroups. I > also know that there are others whoh do this without asking me first. i know > that there are those well wishers on any general list who would see a post > which they consider pertinent to another list and just forward it. > > I would appreciate it greatly if anyone who ever considers forwarding any > post of mine to any other list would ask me first. it may be that the list > is one I have been asked not to post to, and I do not want to offend any > more listowners than necessary. > > Also, it is a very uncomfortable feeling to find yourself being unsubbed > from a list you have already been unsubbed from a long time ago.....you get > to wonder if there are fairies inside your computer. > > Thank you for reading this. > > Jane >