Reply to: RE: Declaration of Intent I was asked the following, so I thought I would share more details: > Scott, my g-grandfather emmigrated from Ireland around 1865. He settled in > Rochester NH and was very active in Republican politics in Rochester. Therfore I > am sure he must have filed a Declaration of Intent. Can you please tell me where > to look for a copy of his Declaration of Intent? In NH or Washington? What > information is to be found on the D of I? Probably in Rochester, NH. Up until 1906, any court of record (local, county, state, federal) could take a declaration of intent. It would be detailed in the records of that court. Probably your father went to the court closest to him, which more than likely was a local or county court. (After 1906 the Immigration and Naturalization Service centralized the process.) The information included on the declaration varies quite a bit. It can be a gold mine or it might only repeat what you already know. It is worthwhile trying to track down the final papers, also, as they might provide more information. I'll give two transcriptions of declarations I have found. Both were from the Guernsey Co., Ohio Court of Common Pleas in Cambridge (about 10 miles from where my ancestors lived). The first is from my 4-great-granduncle James Cranston. The second is from his younger brother (my 4-great-grandfather) Thomas Cranston and their father (my 5-great-grandfather) John Cranston: 23 APR 1811 James Cranston came this day into Court and made oath that it is his bonafide Intention to become a Citizen of the United States, and to renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever and particularly to George the Third King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland whereof he was a Subject that he was born in the County of Monaghan in Ireland from whence he migrated, and arrived at New Castle in the United States about the first of August one thousand eight-hundred and two, that his age is about twenty five and that his place of Residence & Settlement is in Oxford Township Guernsey County and State of Ohio 18 AUG 1812 Thomas Cranston and John Cranston Natives of Ireland filed in Court their petitions setting forth that it is bona fide their intention to become Citizens of the United States. John Cranston took the oath of Abjuration agreeably to Law. Note that the "Oath of Abjuration" was spelled out in the first one but not in the second one. Apparently the reason that Thomas did not have to take this oath is that he was under sixteen when he arrived. What does this have to do with Fermanagh? :-) Not a whole lot, but I believe these three descended from the Scotsman named Thomas Cranston who was a tenant in Magheraboy in Fermanagh in 1619. S R C A cott obert ranston nderson phssra@physics.emory.edu

Reply to: Re: Declaration if Intent Janet C-S <Caiside@aol.com> wrote: > However, if they wished to become a citizen, then they had to file a > declaration of intent (to become a citizen) and then live in the same place > for 5 yrs and then file final papers. Many did not file final papers. According to "Guide to Naturalization Records of the United States", the requirements changed several times over the years. Here's a table based on information provided therein (best in monospace font): Time Residency in U.S. Before Residency After Declaration Frame Declaration of Intention and Before Final Papers --------- ------------------------ --------------------------- 1790-1795 Not required 2 years, with 1 in state 1795-1798 3 years 5 years, with 1 in state 1798-1802 14 years* 5 years, with 1 in state 1802-1824 3 years 5 years, with 1 in state 1824-1906 3 years 2 years, with ? in state 1906- 2 years 5 years, with ? in state * It's unclear from the text if the residency period was 14 years before declaration, after declaration and before final papers, or 14 years total. S R C A cott obert ranston nderson phssra@physics.emory.edu

In a message dated 10/2/99 5:12:32 PM, BRhealasne@aol.com wrote: <<Did people from different countries have to file a Declaration of Intent to Naturalize when the landed here, or could they just come here without ever having to naturalize? The time period I am talking about would be before the 1850s? >> They could come to the US without a passport or visa,, at least before 1900 (I forget when things got "official"--probably about 1906.) They did not have to become citizens if they didn't want to. About 25% of aliens did not become natiuralized citizens. However, if they wished to become a citizen, then they had to file a declaration of intent (to become a citizen) and then live in the same place for 5 yrs and then file final papers. Many did not file final papers. The later censuses (1900, 1910) have a question about citizenship. For a good discussion of this with a timetable of policies and laws, see The Source ed by Loretto D Szucs. Available at many LDS FHCs. Janet C-S

This is probably a question that everyone knows the answer to but me, but here goes. Did people from different countries have to file a Declaration of Intent to Naturalize when the landed here, or could they just come here without ever having to naturalize? The time period I am talking about would be before the 1850s? I have hit the "Brick Wall" trying to find when and where my ancestors came from Ireland and settled in the USA. Thanks, Brandi

I purchased a really nice quality county map from http://www.quintinpublications.com. Marion buddyf@ieway.com wrote: > The rest of the Townland maps, based on the Civil Parishes of 1898 are as > follows; > Antrim 6342438 > Armagh 6342439 > Cavan 6342440 > Clare 6342452 > Cork,East 6343060 > Cork,Middle 6346061 > Cork, West 6346062 > Donegal 6341441 > Down 6342442 > Fermanagh 6342443 > Galway 6342447 > Kerry 6343063 > Kildare 6343064 > Leitrim 6342448 > Limerick 6343065 > Louth 6343066 > Londonderry 6342444 > Mayo 6342449 > Meath 6343067 > Monaghan 6342445 > Roscommon 6342450 > Sligo 6342451 > Tipperary North 6343068 > Tipperary,Sth 6343069 > Tyrone 6342446 > Waterford 6342453 > Wicklow 6343070 > > Could not find any in the files for the counties listed below: > > Carlow > Dublin > Kilkenny > Laois > Longford > Offaly > Westmeath > Wexford. > The information below is from the Computer printout from the LDS files::: > > " It is the intention of this series of maps to show, on a county basis, > all townlands within their respective civil parishes. To 1898, the civil > parish was the major administrative division. The two great surveys of the > 19th century - The Tithe assessment and the Griffiths Valuations- were > compiled on this basis with householders listed by their townland address. > Use the index at the beginning of each county to identify the parish you > need. Beside each map is a list of each parish's constituent townlands." > William J Flanagan > Fermanagh County Host > Spokane, Wa, USA

Does anyone know whether there were many Quakers in Fermanagh in the 19th cent.? Were there meeting houses? Any names that might be associated with the Quakers? Thanks for any help, Janet C-S

>Does anyone know whether there were many Quakers in Fermanagh in the 19th >cent.? Were there meeting houses? Any names that might be associated with >the Quakers? >Thanks for any help, >Janet C-S > > > From a book I happen to have on my shelf. "Tracing your Irish Ancestors" Excellent records exist from the 1650's onward. Included in these records are Births, Marriages, Deaths, Wills, Letters, meetings, ect. Contact; 1. Friends Meeting House, Eustace Street, Dublin, Ireland. 2. Friends Meeting House, Lisburn, Co Antrim, Ireland. 3. Public Records Office,, Belfast, Ireland,. Report of the deputy keeper 1951 to 1953. Publications for further assistance: Guide to Irish Quaker Records,, by Olive Goodbody. Quakers in Ireland, 1654 - 1900, London, 1927, Isabel Grubb. Immigratiion of the Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania, 1682-1750. Albert Cook Meyers, 1902. William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa, USA

In a message dated 10/2/99 4:15:12 AM, Adam4Eves@aol.com wrote: <<The letters of John O'Donovan from Fermanagh in 1834 originally published in 1993 by John B. Cunningham and out of print is now republished on CD by Ariadne Web Design of Leicester, England. http://www.ariadne-webdesign.co.uk >> The John O'Donovan CD will soon be available on the Cassidy Clan website, too. For details, contact Janet Cassidy-Stroh at Caiside@AOL.com

The dreaded John O'Donovan makes one final appearance ! Thanks for everyones interest and encouragement without which the CD would not have been produced. Payment is at the US dollar level as unfortunately banks here charge £3 to change a foreign currency cheque. The letters of John O'Donovan from Fermanagh in 1834 originally published in 1993 by John B. Cunningham and out of print is now republished on CD by Ariadne Web Design of Leicester, England. http://www.ariadne-webdesign.co.uk John O'Donovan, one of Ireland's greatest gaelic scholars, historians and genealogists recorded his impressions of Fermanagh in 1834 and gives us a glimpse of a hidden Ireland 20 years before the great famine. He records the folklore and antiquities of the county, the ancient kingdoms, their conflicts and their rulers and places them in the context of the ancient Irish Annals which go back 1,400 years. He pays particular attention to Fermanagh's ancient families especially Maguire, O'Flanagan and Mc Manus with their genealogies and has references to numerous other families of Fermanagh and surrounding counties such as O'Cassidy, Mc Caffrey, Mc Elroy, Cox, Corrigan, Melanophy, Crudden, Mc Grath, Mc Goldrick, Breslin etc etc. The book is extensively footnoted to bring it alive to the modern reader, scholar and genealogist. The CD costs £12.99 plus P&P £1 British Isles. US $26 incl P&P airmail from John B. Cunningham, Commons, Belleek, County Fermanagh, N. Ireland BT93 3ED. Personal cheques accepted and please allow two weeks after receipt of payment. Best Wishes and thank you. Goodness - "A John O'Donovan letter and a Thank You letter" is this just too too much? :-) John Cunningham

Hi! Could anyone tell me, if there was any Evans/Evanes in Fermanagh in the 1830's. My ggggrandmother was an Hester "Evans/Evanes" from Northern Ireland. (I'm having a hard time reading what the last name was on the Death Certificate) But the name is all I have and the location Northern Ireland - I know her son resided in Maguries Bridge Ireland as an adult. If anyone can help point me in a direction I would be most appreciative!! amy

The rest of the Townland maps, based on the Civil Parishes of 1898 are as follows; Antrim 6342438 Armagh 6342439 Cavan 6342440 Clare 6342452 Cork,East 6343060 Cork,Middle 6346061 Cork, West 6346062 Donegal 6341441 Down 6342442 Fermanagh 6342443 Galway 6342447 Kerry 6343063 Kildare 6343064 Leitrim 6342448 Limerick 6343065 Louth 6343066 Londonderry 6342444 Mayo 6342449 Meath 6343067 Monaghan 6342445 Roscommon 6342450 Sligo 6342451 Tipperary North 6343068 Tipperary,Sth 6343069 Tyrone 6342446 Waterford 6342453 Wicklow 6343070 Could not find any in the files for the counties listed below: Carlow Dublin Kilkenny Laois Longford Offaly Westmeath Wexford. The information below is from the Computer printout from the LDS files::: " It is the intention of this series of maps to show, on a county basis, all townlands within their respective civil parishes. To 1898, the civil parish was the major administrative division. The two great surveys of the 19th century - The Tithe assessment and the Griffiths Valuations- were compiled on this basis with householders listed by their townland address. Use the index at the beginning of each county to identify the parish you need. Beside each map is a list of each parish's constituent townlands." William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa, USA

Janet Thanks so much for this info. The exhibit North to South which covers the migration to Australia is excellent. However, to get there one must go to http://proni.nics.gov.uk/index.htm and then select 'What's New' and then select the exhibit one is interested in: I was feeling paranoid till I found this out. I was particularly interested in one comment in the 'Australia Bound' section of the exhibit which mentioned how frequently the Ulster migrants settled closely to each other. One area of NSW called the Berrima District is particularly rich in names which appear constantly in this list; Johnson/ton, Armstrong, Bell, Noble and Bernie are just a few which come to mind at the moment but there are certainly many, many more surnames which I frequently see here (usually being queried from the US). These people settled in an area near a small town called Robertson (known as the Yarrawa Brush in the early days of settlement), good land and great farmers so they thrived and have lots of descendants in the area to this day. Thanks again, I enjoyed it immensely. Fran Higham Caiside@aol.comwrote: > Hi Fermanagh listers: > For those who haven't seen it yet, check out the PRONI site: > <http://proni.nics.gov.uk/exhibiti/exhibiti.htm> > It is a two-part exhibit dealing with emigration from Ulster to North America > and to Australia. > > Enjoy! > Janet C-S

I've traced my family tree back to 'Francis Snow' born in Enniskillen in 1832. His father was 'James Snow' - a coupar and his mother was 'Ann McNaught'. Can anyone help me out further?

Thanks for the URL Janet - however the PRONI link doesn't work to the Australian one!! I fiddled around with the URL and eventually got to the page with this: http://proni.nics.gov.uk/exhibiti/austra/contents.htm Jan Hart janhart@webleicester.co.uk http://members.tripod.com/Jan_Hart (with some information on Fermanagh) ----- Origi nal Message ----- From: <Caiside@aol.com> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:15 PM Subject: Emigration > Hi Fermanagh listers: > For those who haven't seen it yet, check out the PRONI site: > <http://proni.nics.gov.uk/exhibiti/exhibiti.htm> > It is a two-part exhibit dealing with emigration from Ulster to North America > and to Australia. > > Enjoy! > Janet C-S > >

In a message dated 9/29/99 2:37:00 PM, janhart@webleicester.co.uk wrote: <<Thanks for the URL Janet - however the PRONI link doesn't work to the Australian one!!>> Thanks, Jan! I noticed it didn't work after I sent it, but I thought it was just me or AOL! But I can't get what you sent to work either. :-( Janet

Hi Fermanagh listers: For those who haven't seen it yet, check out the PRONI site: <http://proni.nics.gov.uk/exhibiti/exhibiti.htm> It is a two-part exhibit dealing with emigration from Ulster to North America and to Australia. Enjoy! Janet C-S

While working st the local LDS Family History Center, I came upon the following information; There are 79 microfiches covering the majority of Ireland as to Civil parishes and the townlands within each parish. They are broken down according to each County. As this is the Fermanagh site, and being in the northern part of Ireland and that our ancestors sometimes did cross county lines to intermingle for social and economic purposes: I will list all the numbers for the norther counties. COUNTY # OF fICHES LDS # to order cost to you Antrim 2 6342438 .30 Armagh 1 6342439 .15 Cavan 2 6342440 .30 Donegal 2 6342441 .30 Down 2 6342442 .30 Fermanagh(us) 1 6342443 .15 Londonderry 2 6342444 .30 Monaghan 1 6342445 .15 Tyrone 2 6342446 .30 2.25 Once you pay for these, they will remain in the Family History Center indefinetly. If interested, I also have the numbers for Clare, Cork, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Limerick, Louth, Mayo, Meath, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary North, Tipperary South, Waterford and Wexford. William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa, USA

Hi, My husbands gr gr grandfather was Hugh Keenan b. 1799 came to USA in 1804 with an Uncle Hugh Keenan who was 50 in 1804. They were with Thomas McDonough family. I would like to find these people in Fermanagh Co. before 1804. I do not know what happened to the mother and father of young Hugh Keenan. No stories were passed down about them. Could any one help me with info that would lead me to them? I would appreciate any thing. Thank you Ruth USA

>Does anyone know how I can get my paws on a map which shows townlands for >Co. Fermanagh? http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/parishes/par136.htm

Greetings, Does anyone know how I can get my paws on a map which shows townlands for Co. Fermanagh? Thank you- Ellen Timoney ellen.timoney@portergaud.edu