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    1. Re: John O'Donovan
    2. Joan L Bearden
    3. I would also be interested. Joan Bearden Gainesville, FL, USA -----Original Message----- From: Doug Fletcher <dfletche@compusmart.ab.ca> To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:42 PM Subject: Re: John O'Donovan John....if you decide to proceed with your CD project, I would be honoured to subscribe to a copy in advance. Doug Fletcher Edmonton, Alberta Canada Adam4Eves@aol.com wrote: > > I wrote the book of John O'Donovan's Letters from Fermanagh and it is now out > of print. I only printed 500 softback plus 50 hardback copies. I have only a > few hardback copies left @ £20 + p&p and I know of no one who has any others > left. Unless I were to win the lottery I will not be republishing but I am > toying with producing the book on CD for sale at c £10 per copy. If enough > people showed an interest I may go ahead with this. > Best Wishes, > John B. Cunningham.

    10/30/1999 01:35:30
    1. Re: Pronunciation
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. Amadan.....and it's got a couple of fadas in there but I have something on my system which won't allow me use my 'a' to fada. The fada is the accent you see on top of some of our letters - similar to French accents......draws the letter out. Ama = as in Ama for Amadeus dan - now that should have the fada - as in dawn Amadawn Now - I have t find my dictionary for the other - Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: jwilliam <jwilliam@prodigy.net> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:08 PM Subject: Pronunciation > Someone asked me to find words in Gaelic that might mean twit--I came up > with Idiot=Amaid and simpleton = Pleidhce. Correct me if I am wrong. Also > coould someone tell me how those two words are pronounced. > > Thanks---Billie > >

    10/28/1999 12:36:09
    1. Re: Pronunciation
    2. bill&lisa
    3. >From what I remember the DH is pronounced as a "Y". That's about as far as I want to guess, sorry! Lisa ************************************************************************** Researching: CALLAHAN, MEEHAN, GREGORY, FADNESS, DRISCOLL, MUNDERLOH, MILVERSTED, KOGER, STORK *************************************************************************** Distributor for: Hullachan-Pro Irish Dance shoes & 100% Pure Irish Dance - Essential Music for all serious competitors! www.gurlpages.com/art/celtic1/index.html celtic1@gurlmail.com wbit@email.msn.com *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: jwilliam <jwilliam@prodigy.net> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:08 AM Subject: Pronunciation > Someone asked me to find words in Gaelic that might mean twit--I came up > with Idiot=Amaid and simpleton = Pleidhce. Correct me if I am wrong. Also > coould someone tell me how those two words are pronounced. > > Thanks---Billie >

    10/28/1999 09:23:11
    1. Pronunciation
    2. jwilliam
    3. Someone asked me to find words in Gaelic that might mean twit--I came up with Idiot=Amaid and simpleton = Pleidhce. Correct me if I am wrong. Also coould someone tell me how those two words are pronounced. Thanks---Billie

    10/28/1999 08:08:58
    1. Mc Mahon flood
    2. sandra armstrong
    3. reposting my interests. Arrived in Aus 1857 on 'Emma', with 5 children, Sydney, Jane, Anne, James and Bridget, possibly left 5 children older? behind. regards Sandra

    10/26/1999 11:44:00
    1. census
    2. B J Moyle
    3. Hi folks, I am wondering if other parishes had a census taken in 1841, besides Devenish. I am interested in Aghlchurcher and Inishmascsaint parishes. Does anyone have this information, and if it exists, would be willing to do a look up for me? Many thanks, Betty Jean

    10/26/1999 06:29:31
    1. obituaries
    2. Douglas Graham
    3. Hi: Are there any published lists of or indexes to the obituaries for newspapers in Enniskillen, Belfast and Dublin that were published between 1850 and 1866? I am searching for info. on the murder of an ancestor of mine, Thomas Humphreys. If it was a religous based murder, the event may have hit the papers in larger cities. Thanks, Doug Ontario, Canada. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

    10/25/1999 05:08:33
    1. Humphreys in Enniskillen
    2. Douglas Graham
    3. Hi folks: I am a new subscriber looking for information on the Humphreys family of Enniskillen. My ancestor migrated to Canada in 1866 at the age of 16 yrs. with his mother and step-father James Stewart. William's father had been murdered some years earlier in Enniskillen. Another family that consisting of Margaret, Jane, Francis & William Humphreys, the children of Parker Humphreys and Ann Montgomery settled only a few miles from my family in York Co., Ontario, Canada. Both families, I am certain, are connected. I just haven't been able to prove it yet. Does anyone out there know anything about these families? Doug in colourful autumn Ontario. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

    10/25/1999 05:01:02
    1. Re: obituaries
    2. In a message dated 10/25/99 7:10:41 PM, djmaharg@yahoo.com wrote: <<Are there any published lists of or indexes to the obituaries for newspapers in Enniskillen, Belfast and Dublin that were published between 1850 and 1866? I am searching for info. on the murder of an ancestor of mine, Thomas Humphreys. If it was a religous based murder, the event may have hit the papers in larger cities. >> I may be wrong, but, unless he was prominent, you are not likely to find an obituary. However, a murder would have probably made the paper as a news item, and if someone were indicted for the murder, the trial would have been reported on. The Assize Court doings were always in the papers, some trials in great detail. No index that I know of, though, at least not for the Enniskillen papers. If you can find out his death date from another source, you won't have to look through 15 years of microfilm! Janet C-S

    10/25/1999 04:20:42
    1. [my family tree] NGI
    2. Jan Roggy
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------437455B954026E0423271297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to know who it was that said that they were almost done with their family? I think this will blow your mind! A cousin of mine sent it to me and I couldn't beleive how the numbers increased. Guess that is why mom says that I'm related to everyone in the world if I just go back far enough! Let's see who can get to a million first! Ha. Just a little laugh for everyone who is ready to say they've completed their line. (Mike, I sent this to you so that your mom gets it.) Jan Rutledge Roggy --------------437455B954026E0423271297 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <coinman@sanasys.com> Received: from sparrow.sanasys.com ([206.101.242.50]) by wintermute.essex1.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-54437U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for <jlroggy@essex1.com>; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:23:26 -0500 Received: from 51d8u (pm1-242-130.sanasys.com [206.101.242.130]) by sparrow.sanasys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23462 for <jlroggy@essex1.com>; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:15:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from coinman@sanasys.com) Message-ID: <002301bf1e75$bb3542a0$82f265ce@51d8u> From: "CoinMan" <coinman@sanasys.com> To: <jlroggy@essex1.com> References: <3813872F.F7032826@essex1.com> Subject: ok, just a pyramid for you Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:15:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > HOW MANY RELATIVES DO > YOU HAVE? > Only > 1 YOU > 2 parents > 4 grandparents > > 8 great grandparents > 16 gg grandparents > 32 ggg grandparents > 64 gggg grandparents > 128 ggggg grandparents > 256 gggggg grandparents > 512 ggggggg grandparents > 1,024 gggggggg grandparents > 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents' > 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents > 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents > 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents > 32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents > 65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents > 131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents > 262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents > 524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents --------------437455B954026E0423271297--

    10/24/1999 07:44:44
    1. Re: Fw: Rutherford/Armstrong
    2. In a message dated 10/24/99 12:15:19 AM, marylee@qcol.net wrote: <<He married between 1886 and 1890 to Margaret Armstrong from Glasgow Scotland. I do not know where they married or the exact date and would to to know.>> If you think they may have been married in Fermanagh, write to the Town Hall, Enniskillen. Also, if he was born 1864 or later, you can get a copy of his birth record from the GRO in Belfast. Good luck, Janet C-S

    10/24/1999 07:26:18
    1. Farmer Mystery
    2. Judy Dumbrell
    3. Hello there, My name is Judy and I'm from 'down under'. I have a bit of a puzzle which somebody on the list may be able to unravel for me. I have a James Farmer and his wife Anne Brady who emigrated to Australia in May 1840 on the ship "China" with four of their children Francis, John, James and Jane. James and Anne Farmer were married abt 1831 or 1832 in Enniskillen (but I have not proven that yet). Their children mentioned above were born abt1832, abt 1836, abt 1838, abt 1834. The line I am following is Catherine Farmer, who was born abt 1833 in Fermanagh - where all the other children were born. Her death certificate in Australia only shows her father as John - no mother. Her wedding certificate, also in Australia shows her sister Jane, as her Witness. Catherine did not come to Australia with James and Ann - why? Did she stay with a relative? She actually came out to Australia on the Sir Edward Parry, which carried 74 children out to their parents in Australia. The children had all been 'left behind' when their parents came to Australia. Apparently there was a huge effort made to bring the 'forgotten children' out to Australia to be with their parents and other siblings. Some of the children had been parted from their parents for quite a number of years. There were 174 children 'left behind', but after such a long time, some of them did not want to leave Ireland where they now had a new home and did not remember the parents and siblings and so it seems that only 74 came. None died on the voyage and all were given free passage. The ships record shows that Catherine was 14 years of age when she arrived and that her 'Native Place' was Cleenish, Fermanagh; that she was a housemaid and that she could neither read nor write. The ship arrived in Australia in January 1848. 8 years after her parents. The record also only said that she was coming to join her father John. Was Cleenish where she had been staying all this time ? Who with? Is there a census that could be checked? Is she John Farmer and Ann Brady's daughter ? Is she another John Farmer's daughter? We haven't been able to decipher John Farmer's will yet - to find out if she is mentioned there. Does anyone have any suggestions. Judy, Newcastle, Oz

    10/24/1999 01:57:45
    1. Fw: Rutherford/Armstrong
    2. Mary Rutherford
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Rutherford To: Fayette County Mailing List Cc: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 11:21 PM Subject: Rutherford/Armstrong Hello everyone, I subscribed to this list a while back but can't remember if I posted any of my information. So here goes: Looking for any information on Christopher Rutherford (possibly known as James Christopher or Christopher James) who was born in Enniskillen, Ireland on August 12, 1855/1866 ?? He married between 1886 and 1890 to Margaret Armstrong from Glasgow Scotland. I do not know where they married or the exact date and would to to know. Christopher's parents were: Christopher Rutherford born 1826 in ? Ireland, died February 6, 1912 (his father was John Rutherford born in ? Ireland) Christopher married Sarah Little who died February 9, 1917 Her father was Christopher Little. Both Christopher and Sarah were buried in Brookeboro, Ireland. James Christopher Rutherford's siblings were: Eliza Anne, Sophia, Harry or Henry, and Frank. Frank I know was in Scotland and married twice, once to Elizabeth Kenny and once to Sara McGilton. Frank was born 1881 and died 1941. HIs children were: Elizabeth, James, Leonard, Margaret Sophia, Anna, and May. I was told that James Christopher came to USA (New York) in the late 1800's, his sisters Eliza and Sophia came to USA (New York) in early 1900's. I have a postcard of a ship called the T.S.S. Cameronia that says one of the above came to USA on and that Frank helped to build it. I have searched the Cameronia info. that I know is available to me and came up with nothing. If anyone can help me with anything I would surely be greatful. I have hit a brick wall and am in need of details on this family of my husband's. Please......can anyone help me? Mary Lee marylee@qcol.net

    10/23/1999 10:12:06
    1. re: Kerr Surname
    2. Barber Bill-CARV22
    3. The only Kerrs that I have in my files were Robert Kerr of Cloonderagh whose daughter Annie married John George Armstrong in 1906. Also a Patrick Kerr of Clooslerry, whose daughter Elizabeth married James Wallace Armstrong in 1861 at Drumcliff in Co. Sligo. Bill Barber Hudson, New Hampshire U.S.A. Email to: W.Barber@Motorola.com Researching: Barber, Prigge, Wright, Bird, White, Dundas, McBrien, Likely, O'Neill, Armstrong, Sheridan, Whiting, Tracy, Hayes, McGraw, Geary, Carrol, Smith, Nolan -----Original Message----- From: buddyf@ieway.com [mailto:buddyf@ieway.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 4:05 PM To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Kerr surname Was you old address @bigpond.au ??? The addresses listed below are also looking for the Kerr surname, one of them also has a Cosgrove in their files. SL_Gorham@bc.sympatico.ca posted 12/8/98 D.Jjlyle@netl.nw.com.au posted 12/4/98 W.Barber@motorola.com 8/1/99 SULLi2233@aol.com 5/25/98 Tedmar@intranet.ca 2/28/99 William J Flanagan Fermanagh County Host Spokane, Wa, USA

    10/23/1999 09:13:39
    1. Irish Records
    2. Thought I should pass this heads up to my other Irish contacts. There is an Irish Index, 1500-1920 available free with LDS film numbers at the location courtesy of Heather. rgds Jim Dawe searching Stevenson, Stinson, Lipsi(e)t(t) of Fermanagh - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:43:58 -0500 From: "Heather Evans" <hevans@mnsi.net> Subject: [nlgs-l] Online Genealogy Library at Ancestry.com - New Databases Thought this may be of interest, free for 10 days. Lots of NEW data. Heather http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/recent.asp

    10/23/1999 04:46:08
    1. Elizabeth Shaw & George Rutledge
    2. Jan Roggy
    3. I am looking for information on George Rutledge b 5/1/1790 in Enniskellan, Ireland who married Elizabeth Shaw on 3/16/1812 in Fermanaugh, Ireland. They had 2 children while still in Ireland and went to Philadelphia, Pa in 1817. Their daughter Jane was b 2/15/1813 in Lisbellow, Fermanaugh Co., Ireland and died 1895. She married William Alexander Elliott and they had 4 children: 1) Eliza J. b. Killee, Fermanaugh Co., Ire. m ? Barber 2) Mary m. ? Prentice 3) George b. @ Rutledge Homestead Clough, Lisbellow Fermanaugh Co., Ire. 4) Ellen b Tyrone, Ire. m ? Moffatt They also had a son, James born 11/01/1816 in Ire. I would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who is connected to this family or knows any information. Any hints at where to look even would be wonderful. I am new to the world of internet. Thanks in advance. Jan Rutledge Roggy from Illinois

    10/23/1999 03:20:59
    1. Where they came from - pointers, clues
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. The various Civil Registration Districts of the General Registrar's Office (GRO) are what used to be called the Poor Law Unions (PLU's). So - if you came from this PLU then any descendants will be found (maybe ) in the Civil Registration District of the same name I've being asked this again and again in all those mails I've received over the last few days - have you any pointers or clues as to where I should look next - how do I find this family or that, where they came from - be it a county or just somewhere in Ireland. In a way - this is a repeat of what I've said so many times over the last few years - but with bits added from what I've learned since I first began with my 'geography' and homing in on 'bulls eyes' on a dart board bits and pieces. We learn from experience, and when I made my first post back early in 1998 I think it was re the usefulness of the Irish Birth Marriage and Death indices in finding ancestors - I was only brushing the top of the pile. So many of you search for 20 years or more - and from what I read you're just going around picking up evreyone of that surname from the whole country. Anything I say here is really not going to apply to those common names for the whole country, it won't really apply either to those common names for a county - it's if you have an uncommon name or a reasonably uncommon one from the same place - then you can home in on somewhere at least. and remember these are only ideas and pointers - no matter what I say you will fnd most names somewhere in Ireland even if it's only one or two people in a whole county - that might be where your family came from and not anywhere you'll end up because of listening to me or any others. They came from Ireland and you haven't got a clue where from, and/or everyone tells you the surname is not Irish......and on top of that they left this country way back then - when there were no Civil Records - pre 1845 or 1864..... and you spend your timne reading through Parish records for everywhere and anywhere looking for some reference to that name. Or, they came from a county and you haven't got aclue what part....... There are a few things you can do. 1. You can go to one of the free look up groups on the net and ask them if someone could check the surname on a Griffiths CD...or you can buy the CD. Yes, I'm critical of the CD - the places names can be wrong - usually the county is right, sometimes the parish is listed as being in another county - but if you check out that parish you find that it spreads across two county borders...*but* if they find the surname or a variation on it - then this gives you a pointer of a place or places to begin searching to see if there are any parish records available....or now i see that the Tithe records are on CD....someone will eventually begin to offer look ups on that - have a check done as well..... The best thing though - is once you have that placename for your surname - go check out the Tithes yourself on the films wherever you are in the world.....and find out what Civil parishes were around the one you are interested in - if they spread into another county or are even in the county next door - check those as well. These people moved about - they may have lived in one parish for the Griffiths but their family may have come from the parish next door.....Civil Parishes. They may have been of a religion other than catholic, their closest church may have been in the next county - a different county, different ecclesiastical parish, different ecclesiastical Diocese. and again - they may not have leased or owned land when the Griffiths and Tithes were carried out - the bit of land they did own may bot have fitted into the categories for either valuation - so they may have been missed out. Some of you just know htat your family owned land in this place or that and have and still do since time began - and say how the Griffiths is wrong - but this may be the reason - 'outside' the terms for Griffiths. and then what do you do if they are not in griffiths - whether they should or shouldn't be....they will only have been if they had land and do any of you realise how many other occupations there were in this country - how many other people lived and worked and died here? and for no. 2 'died' is the operative word....if it can be called that. Almost everyone who left - they had family still living here, regardless of whether or not in the same place as they came from nad regardless of the fact that they moved - someone willl have lived close by.... and maybe just maybe you will be one of the lucky ones whose families actually registered a death, marriage or birth in those early years. even if the person died n the workhouse - then you are so much luckier than so many others - because workhouses - they made sure to obey the law and register those deaths! I find the GRO registers - Births,Marriages and Deaths to be the handiest things on earth to home in on an area - doesn't matter when Tom or John left.......so long as the surname is not O'Brien/Ryan/Murphy/Sullivan or a few others from Ireland the register indices will point you to somewhere - even if it is a whole county - that's smaller than the whole country.... A bull's eye on a dart board - where to begin that search - the rest of the places you find the surname - they are the other rings on the dartboard. And even with a surname which you find in a few places in Ireland - take a look at how it is spelled in the early registers - for lots of them you find that in one registration district it's spelled one way and in the other another.....and those two districts, you'll find that they are counties apart..maybe even provinces - and why are the names spelled differently? Because of phonetics and how the name was pronounced. Me - I'd home in on the place that the name was spelled same was as my original ancestor wrote it down - or whoever else heard that first person say it.....that's where I'd go - or as close to that first spelling. because - as the years go by if you are looking through all those registers you eventually begin to notice that the surnames take on a common spelling through the whole country no matter what district they are found in. and whether or not the person handing in the information could spell and read or write is irrelevant - it's how the person who writes the official registration either spells the name or hears it that counted back then. Your family came from Ireland pre the dates for civil registration - 1845 for Protestant marriages and 1864 for birhts deaths and marriages of all others.....and so you never bother with those civil indices..they're of no use to you. *But* they are, I always go for the deaths index for 1864 and the few years afterwards when I'm looking for someone. The deaths index gives the age of the person who died - and if I find that more older people died in one registration district than young people for the same surname - then I go looking for parish registers for that area. If it's all children - then that area is not my bulls eye but one of those outer rings.....the families probably moved in there from somewhere else - somewhere around there...... ----------------- If you know they came from this or that county but don't know where in the county - then the GRO indices may tell you what part. There are usually pockets of names - districts where a suname turns up more than others - and each county has more than one district associated with it. Every county has it's main district - the one you immediately think of as you run through the registers......but what about those registration districts which border counties , spread from one over to the other....... Strabane in Donegal and Tyrone - most people immediately only think of Tyrone Limerick in Clare and Limerick Carlow in Laois and carlow Ballyshannon in Leitrim, Donegal and fermanagh Lismore in Cork and Waterford Youghal in Waterford and Cork Shillelagh in Wexford and Wicklow Naas in Wicklow and Kildare i could be going through the lot for the rest of the day picking out what is common to one or more counties and that we ignore those registrations becasue we don't think of that spread from county to county in general. Using the registration indices - we can home in on a registration district, we can find out what ecclesiastical parish recrods exist for that district, we can begin to check out those. Then, we can find pocket sof the surname in different registers.....and so it works its way from there. --------------------- now - if you have two surnames from Ireland and they went to whatever part of the world together and you either don't know what part of the country or what part of a county...and you're not sure of the spelling because it is different in different documents. then even if one of those surnames is a common one - O'Brien/Ryan/Murphy from Ireland - you forget that name for the moment and home in on the not so common surname - that's what will point you to somewhere and then you try to find all those other people of the common surname in that area. if you have that unusual name - USE it You don't go to these records that I'm talking about and just because you have Tobias Sullivan - take all the info only for someone of the name Tobias - you take all the references to anyone of that surname and you list them all down, whether you are interested in the whole country or just a county. You take all people of that surname from the Death indices, the Marriage indices and the Birth indices for the first few years after they began being written up. if you have two surnames - you do the same thing with the second. Then, you sit down and look at all these peoples names, and place names that you have - the registration districts. and you look at a map of Ireland and you work out counties if you can, and if you have a decent map - then you'll see the way the counties connect...... and with one surname you begin by looking for anything you can find on the place where you have most references for. if you have two surnames - people who are supposed to have met in Ireland - then you cross off all those people who come from districts that you have only found the one surname mentioned - but before you do, you take a look at whatever map you ahve and make a guess as to whether distric A might be beside District B and if so - then these districts become the ring ourside your bulls eye - which is the district that you've found both surnames in. Now - very many of you will never find that place of origin - when you are only beginning with a surname from Ireland or a county. You will find lots of people with the same names and surnames born about the same time as the person you are looking for - and it is up to yourselve to decide whether or not to believe or adopt that person as your ancestor.....there will never be any proof either way that they were or weren't..... That sounds awful to say but it is the truth - your best bet then is to find a county where the surname was common and from there find out as much about the lives of those people as you can...... Maybe some day you will come across a reference to a really unusual first name in your lineage and maybe some day that first name will turn up somwhere that you have begun to learn about - or someone will say something like if I had a Fintan in my family tree from the mid 1800's - then county Laois is where I would home in on - regardless of where else you think that common surname is from - 'Fintan's' - they're almost all from Laois.... All small things in the jig saw puzzle which is genealogy. Lots and lots of work, little return - ah, but when you find that something, that link no matter how long you have been looking - that makes it worthwhile. Some day - someone will work their way through all the penders' 1659 survey , and the COI 1766 'census' and that shows surname distribution as well, someone else they will combine that and Griffiths and the Tithes and all the graveyard transcriptions for the whole of Ireland and all else that there is - and then we'll know more about surnames and where they were during different periods..... But until someone sits down and does all that - the rest of the someones are left wandering hither and thither around Ireland looking for those elsusive ancestors......and we'll all be someones ancestor by the time the other someone sits down Jane

    10/23/1999 02:09:54
    1. Apologize for the duplicate mailing...computer almost done
    2. Hello! Sorry for duplicates, but I believe the computer is almost done! There were a lot of e-mails that did not make it through and came back with demons. I won't bug you again....appreciate you opening the file! Dorcie

    10/22/1999 03:11:45
    1. Registry of Deeds: Wills and Deeds: Memorials
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. REGISTRY OF DEEDs: DUBLIN: ABSTRACTS OF WILLS The Irish Registry of Deeds was created in 1708, any deed not registered was considered null and void. Wills registered replace some of those destroyed in the Public Records office in 1922. The wills and deeds held at the Registry office were abstracted and transcribed by P. Beryl Eustace and resulted in publication of three volumes titled Registry of Deeds, Dublin: Abstracts of Wills: Vol. 1: covering those or 1708-1745 Vol II: 1746-1785 Vol III: 1786-mid 1800's (exact date ??) In order to find the wills for the first volume alone it was necessary to read through the two entire Index of grantors series covering references to over 83,000 recorded deeds of all kinds! Wills are recorded at the Registry of Deeds in one of three ways: Full: one which was registered in the testator's own words. Narrate: recorded in the third person singular. In these wills relationships may be difficult to follow. Precis: theoretically short , but not always. The will/deed may also be referred to as the 'Memorial' All three forms usually have the name and address of the testator, the witnesses - those who signed and sealed the memorial. Transcripts may be seen at the Registry of Deeds in Dublin on payment of a fee. 18th century transcripts are on vellum, thereafter on vellum or good parchment, they are bound in large heavy books. Original memorials signed and sealed are stored in a fireproof vault. The abstracts for these volumes were made in most cases from the transcripts, any doubtful entries were checked against the original memorials. Abstracts are number in chronological order of registration, following the name and address of the testator and his occupation - if mentioned. After the date of signing comes the type and length of the memorial, plus the date of registration. All dates in volume I follow the Old Style official year which began on the 25th of March. The relatives are listed next as they are described by the testator. As mentioned wills written in third person (narrative) can be difficult to follow as to relationships. Following the relations come the names and addresses of all other legatees, trustees, executors and any outstanding legacy of general interest. Bequests to churches are included. The lands listed by the testator are then listed and the name and address of any tenants mentioned. The names of Grantors are always mentioned in those instances where it is not exactly clear where the land was located therefore, a search under the names of these grantors in the names index of Grantors in the Registry of Deeds may show more information. These are then followed by the names of Witnesses to the signing of the memorial, followed by the names of those who witness the registration of the memorial after the testators death. The number given at the end of each memorial is that of the Book, page and memorial and a certified copy of the will from which the abstract was made can be obtained if this number is quoted to the Registrar of Deeds in Dublin.

    10/22/1999 09:48:54
    1. Dundas: Will 1859
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. Principal Registry Office: Dundas, James Effects Under £450 23 June 1859 The Will of James Dunphy late of Ballyusty-beg in the County of Fermanagh Farmer deceased who died 27 May 1859 at the same place was proved at Armagh by the eoaths of Noah Dundas Senior of Drumgrow and Noah Dundas Junior of Ballyusty-beg both in said County (Beleek) the Executors.

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