If SKS has the "Book of Hard Rocks" Could you please look for a mason. His name was Paddy the Mason Bannon. He was known for building smokless chimneys in the Tempo-Lisbellaw area. The book is out of print now but I would love to read the passage about my ggrandfather. Thanks! Ellen _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

The western border of county Fermanagh, according to recent maps, ends with the parishes of Fassagh, Derrynacross, Corry and Drumnasreasne. IN the 11th to 18th centuries, it extended further west to the ocean. It is the parish of Magh Ene, now in the Diocese of Kilmore , formerly in the diocese of Clogher up to 1974. Townlands within this parish: Ardloughill Ballyhanna Ballymunterhiggin Carriskboy Drumacrin Drummuckrum Finner Laughill Magheracar Manger Portmason Rathglass Rathmore It was officially recognized as Magh Ene in 1955 The parish history in fairly well coverd in "Where Erne and Drowes met the Sea" by Fr P O Gallachair. I do not know where to get this book. The Protestant population has fallen dramatically in the past century. There were only 593 members of the Church of Ireland in 1835 , today - less then 100. If your ancestors said they came from Inishmacsaint, you might look into this parish in Donegal also.

While discussing our family with my sisters, they mentioned something that I always took for granted but never noticed. While growing up in Baltimore, whenever we traveled about on school or family business, and people asked us" Where in Baltimore do you live"? We always replied with the name of our Catholic parish. Our parents did the same also. Is this a possible carry over from our ancestors and might aid us in our search in Fermanagh as there are both parishes and townlands with the same name and we might be confusing them togeather. I have noticed many inquiries about Enniskillen, Rossorry and other places where this has happened.

A recent posting from IRELAND-L Source: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] Deaths in Ontario Kingston Gazette January 22 1811 Tuesday Drowned in the St. Lawrence River on Friday morning last, Peter Duffy of the firm Duffy and McCuniff, merchants of this place He was a native of Ireland and we believe he had no relations in this country . His remains were interred yesterday at the Roman Catholic burying ground in this town. Kingston Gazette April 15 1818 A stranger named Sweany from Armagh, Ireland dropped dead at Mr. Duggans Kingston Gazette September 9 1818 William Barber a native of Ireland drowned in the sound between Erneston and Amherst Island Albion, New York November 1 1828 At Saulte St. Marie on September 22, John Johnston aged 66 a native of Antrim, Ireland, father in law of Henry Rowe Schoolcraft Upper Canada Gazette March 24 1825 On Tuesday last James Munley was crossing from Kingston to Long Island, he fell through the ice and was unfortunately drowned . He was a native of County Mayo, Ireland July 28 1825 Thursday Drowned on Saturday last whilst bathing in Arnold's pond, Yonge St. David Black aged 20 years a native of Ireland Oct 7 1826 At Kingston on September 20 , Thomas Ovens a native of the County Fermanaugh, Ireland aged 24 years May 19 1827 This morning (sic) between 9 and 10 o'clock, Michael Donelly was killed while employed as a labourer building the new Episcopal Church in this place. He was a native of Ireland about 30 years of age and leaves a wife and two children (Kingston Chronicle)

Thanks to Sherilyn for help here. Anne Maye

Sherilyn There was a Thomas COALTER (note the different spelling) married Jane CLUFF on 2nd May 1861. Don't know which Church, but they were registered as being married in Fermanagh. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: The Powers [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [FERMANAGH] brady > > Hi Shirley, > > I have no information on your Bradys... but I'm wondering what we can > exchange on the Cluffs AND Coulters! I have a Thomas Coulter (b. about > 1830) married to a Jane Cluff (b. about 1838) sometime before 1869. Both > were from Ireland and immigrated to Canada before 1869... probably to > Quebec. > > Do you have any information that might coincide? > > Sherilyn > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.

LOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON WILLIAM WHITTERS BORN APPROX 1811 MARRIED BRIDGET SCANLAN. They had 3 known sons JOHN. CHARLES. WILLIAM. They moved to Scotland before 1871 Thank You Margaret Ont. Canada DUCEY/DUSEY WHITTERS CROWLEY MILNE MCNAB

also looking for Little and Nobles. Marilyn

Dear Kathleen, My poss. Mc Carts were from the same town. I'm not home tonight but, I will write back over the next few days Ellen I know I have an old griffiths for the town. Do you know of the Mc Carts? >From: "Dipsy" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FERMANAGH] Re: [FER-GOLD] Henry Wilson born 1845 in Ireland. >Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:13:35 -0000 > >Hello, I'm also interested in Wilsons in Fermanagh, including Co. >Fermanagh. >In particular I'm looking for a line that includes this marriage (also, if >anyone knows Ballyreagh can they tell me where this is?): Robert Wilson and >Mary Anne West (both full age), married November 1896, at the Roman >Catholic >Chapel of Tempo. Residence at time of marriage was Ballyreagh. Robert's >father's name William Wilson (deceased - farmer). Mary Anne's mother's name >S. West (I think her name was Sarah). >Thanks >Kathleen > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Barber" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Henry Wilson born 1845 in Ireland. > > > > There were 3 Henry WILSONs in Fermanagh according to Griffiths Valuation >in > > 1862. There were other Henry WILSONs in Co. Antrim, Co. Armagh, Co. >Cork, > > Co. Down and Co. Wicklow. > > > > These 3 were in Enniskillen Parish....the next step would be to look at: > > > > 1. Parish Baptisms and Marriages (either FHL microfilm or PRONI >microfilm) > > 2. Enniskillen Town Hall Marriage Records for WILSON. > > > > Here are the 3 in Enniskillen: > > > > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > > Parish : Enniskillen > > Location : Garvary > > > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > > Parish : Enniskillen > > Location : Mullanskea > > > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > > Parish : Enniskillen > > Location : Mullyknock or Topped Moun > > > > ______________________________ > > >==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== >Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone >with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks for this! Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] Re: [FER-GOLD] Henry Wilson born 1845 in Ireland. > > In a message dated 1/13/02 3:15:57 PM, [email protected] writes: > > << I'm looking for a line that includes this marriage (also, if > > anyone knows Ballyreagh can they tell me where this is?): Robert Wilson and > > Mary Anne West (both full age), married November 1896, at the Roman Catholic > > Chapel of Tempo. Residence at time of marriage was Ballyreagh. >> > > There are two townlands named Ballyreagh in Fermanagh. One is 137 acres in > the Barony of Magherastephana, parish of Aghavea, Poor Law Union of Lisnaskea. > > The 2nd is larger-- > 1,858 acres in Barony of Tirkennedy, parish of Derrybrusk, PLU of Enniskillen. > > Since the parish of Derrybrusk is nearer to Tempo, the 2nd and larger one is > my guess to be the right Ballyreagh. > > You can see a map of Fermanagh which shows the parishes at > http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/ferm.htm > Derrybrusk (divided into two parts) is #7 on the map. Tempo is in the > eastern portion of #12, Enniskillen parish, about where the "2" is. > > Hope this helps! > Janet C-S > >

Hello, I'm also interested in Wilsons in Fermanagh, including Co. Fermanagh. In particular I'm looking for a line that includes this marriage (also, if anyone knows Ballyreagh can they tell me where this is?): Robert Wilson and Mary Anne West (both full age), married November 1896, at the Roman Catholic Chapel of Tempo. Residence at time of marriage was Ballyreagh. Robert's father's name William Wilson (deceased - farmer). Mary Anne's mother's name S. West (I think her name was Sarah). Thanks Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Barber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Henry Wilson born 1845 in Ireland. > There were 3 Henry WILSONs in Fermanagh according to Griffiths Valuation in > 1862. There were other Henry WILSONs in Co. Antrim, Co. Armagh, Co. Cork, > Co. Down and Co. Wicklow. > > These 3 were in Enniskillen Parish....the next step would be to look at: > > 1. Parish Baptisms and Marriages (either FHL microfilm or PRONI microfilm) > 2. Enniskillen Town Hall Marriage Records for WILSON. > > Here are the 3 in Enniskillen: > > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > Parish : Enniskillen > Location : Garvary > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > Parish : Enniskillen > Location : Mullanskea > > Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh > Parish : Enniskillen > Location : Mullyknock or Topped Moun > > ______________________________

In a message dated 1/13/02 3:15:57 PM, [email protected] writes: << I'm looking for a line that includes this marriage (also, if anyone knows Ballyreagh can they tell me where this is?): Robert Wilson and Mary Anne West (both full age), married November 1896, at the Roman Catholic Chapel of Tempo. Residence at time of marriage was Ballyreagh. >> There are two townlands named Ballyreagh in Fermanagh. One is 137 acres in the Barony of Magherastephana, parish of Aghavea, Poor Law Union of Lisnaskea. The 2nd is larger-- 1,858 acres in Barony of Tirkennedy, parish of Derrybrusk, PLU of Enniskillen. Since the parish of Derrybrusk is nearer to Tempo, the 2nd and larger one is my guess to be the right Ballyreagh. You can see a map of Fermanagh which shows the parishes at http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/ferm.htm Derrybrusk (divided into two parts) is #7 on the map. Tempo is in the eastern portion of #12, Enniskillen parish, about where the "2" is. Hope this helps! Janet C-S

looking for brady's of co femanagh.......noble b. 1839 or 1841 (conflicting information); in 1848 their mother ester (cluff) brady was a widow with two unnamed children (noble and ?) was seeking outdoor relief from the workhouse. looking for the name of her deceased husband and noble brady's sibling........lived in area of tempo. shirley johnson (other surnames in fermanagh.....cluff, coulter, little)

Hi Shirley, I have no information on your Bradys... but I'm wondering what we can exchange on the Cluffs AND Coulters! I have a Thomas Coulter (b. about 1830) married to a Jane Cluff (b. about 1838) sometime before 1869. Both were from Ireland and immigrated to Canada before 1869... probably to Quebec. Do you have any information that might coincide? Sherilyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FERMANAGH] brady looking for brady's of co femanagh.......noble b. 1839 or 1841 (conflicting information); in 1848 their mother ester (cluff) brady was a widow with two unnamed children (noble and ?) was seeking outdoor relief from the workhouse. looking for the name of her deceased husband and noble brady's sibling........lived in area of tempo. shirley johnson (other surnames in fermanagh.....cluff, coulter, little) ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland.

Is there someone out there who has a knowledge of Gaelic who could give me an idea of the pronunciation of this townland, Leaghan, in Lurg, Magheraculmoney, Lowtherstown FER please. Anne Maye.

Hello, Time to repost. I have hit a brick wall in my search for ancestors with the surname GLENN, who were,according to obits and a family bible page, from Fermanagh and emigrated to Canada in the 1840's. JOHN GLENN b. 1810 in Belleek, Fermanagh m. JANE STEWART in 1829 - 30. Children born in Fermanagh were: Ann b. 1834 Margaret b. 1836 William b. 1839 They emigrated in 1840 and another 3 children were born in Canada. JANE GLENN b. ~1816 in Fermanagh m. Alexander Jam(i)eson, ~1836-7. Daughter, Mary Jane b. Ireland, and another 11 children born in Canada. MARY GLENN emigrated with her sister and brother-in-law (Jamieson) and m. Thomas BRUCE,also from Ireland, in 1842 in Canada. SAMUEL GLENN b. 1820 emigrated to Canada (date unknown) THOMAS GLENN b. 1833 in Fermanagh, emigrated in 1842-46 to Canada and married in Canada. Thomas is the only one I have parent's names for. His marriage record shows his parents as: WILLIAM AND CHRISTINA GLENN MARGARET GLENN m. ANDREW STEWART (brother of Jane Stewart above) in 1846, in Belleek, Fermanagh, and emigrated to Canada in the same year. Her obit states that her father was , JAMES GLENN, who was also in Canada. All of these GLENN'S settled in the same area in Ontario, Canada. I have proof that John, Jane and Mary Glenn were siblings, but do not have the same confirmation for Thomas and Samuel. Looking for any records of births/marriages of these folks in Fermanagh, most importantly, the names of John Glenn's parents on his marriage record. The family was Methodist, both in Ireland and Canada. Any suggestions, connections etc. greatly appreciated. Best regards, Penny Parker Canada [email protected]

There were 3 Henry WILSONs in Fermanagh according to Griffiths Valuation in 1862. There were other Henry WILSONs in Co. Antrim, Co. Armagh, Co. Cork, Co. Down and Co. Wicklow. These 3 were in Enniskillen Parish....the next step would be to look at: 1. Parish Baptisms and Marriages (either FHL microfilm or PRONI microfilm) 2. Enniskillen Town Hall Marriage Records for WILSON. Here are the 3 in Enniskillen: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh Parish : Enniskillen Location : Garvary Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh Parish : Enniskillen Location : Mullanskea Wilson, Henry County : Fermanagh Parish : Enniskillen Location : Mullyknock or Topped Moun

Hi Maureen, Whoever was interested in this name might also like to know that there was a McAvinue family in either Kevenagh or Gubb Island - both are adjoining townlands in the heart of the Parish of Galoon. M. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: McAviney > I knew I had it somewhere but anyhow better late than never. > > ELLEN Mc Avinnie married Daniel Maguire on 7th May 1871 > CATHERINE McAvinnie married Edward Maguire on 14th February 1914 > Both marriages at Newtownbutler > > With the Maguires in there I have probably given a bigger headache than was > needed but someone has asked for this name. Sorry I cannot remember the > e-mail address as I have just done a clear out on my filing cabinet. > > Maureen > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

If any lister has access to a fairly recent edition of "Burke's Peerage & Baronetage" or "Debrett's Peerage", would you please contact me? The only Burke's I've been able to track down is from 1902 and I need to check one newer than 1975 or so. (For $400 I could buy my own copy!) No, I'm not royalty -- by a long shot -- but I think a distant cousin married into a titled family. Thanks, Linda

Heidi, I was the author of that little piece. bur first things first. Are you sure of the spelling there are lots of McGoverns in and around Clones Parish, which covers a large area of North Eastern Fermanagh but in the 1700's hailed from Co Cavan but some were buried in St Tierneys graveyard in Rosslea. Co Fermanagh. and some emigrated to America. One on them Jack McGovern after a term with the Irish Rebels joined the British Army in 1799 and fought with Wellington. Eventually his ggg granddaughte born in 1832 rmarried Patrick Beggan, Cattle Dealer and Farmer in 1851. This information on the McGoverns is courtesy of one of the gggg grandchildren of HUGH McGovern born abt 1700 in Cavan and who was probably the first of the family to be buried in Rosslea. I do not know if this is of any help but I thought you should have it. Maureen