Find out who the Landlord was at that time for the property in question. In all probability it was either English or Scottish at that time. It would be found under tax, land records of that estate. In 1834, the proprietor of the property was John Breans. who lived in Castletown. The spelling of the townland in 1834 was Loughai There are some people on this site looking for the Braens family. God luck

I'm searching for the parents of Oliver Wright born abt. 1836 in Ireland. He immigrated to PA, married Martha from PA, and lived in Philadelphia. His children were William, John, Anna, Oliver Jr, James, Joseph. His mother may have been Lucy.They were Protestant. If anyone knows anything of his parents I would be glad to share. Sandy [email protected]

I have a copy of a letter written in 1844 to a family member in Fermanagh, Alexander ROBINSON, from someone at Doaer Castle. Can anyone tell me where Doaer Castle is? I would also be interested in any details about the place. Thank you! Lois Stang [email protected]

G'day listers and belated New Years greetings to you all, Today I was at my local public library in search of some summer reading. It stands opposite a small cemetery which is in the middle of parkland, with children's play equipment, barbecues, a gazebo, etc. Why aren't more cemeteries located amongst the living? I like to think of the dead enjoying the children's laughter. However, back to the point, while waiting for the librarian to return with the information I had requested, I idly picked up the volume of the cemetery's records. (This in Oakleigh, suburb of Melbourne.) My eye was taken by the following record : Surname: PATTERSON Given Name : Mary Jane Address : Mulgrave (suburb of Melbourne, probably rural in 1870s) Date of funeral : 25/02/1873 Religion : Church of England Age : 51 years Cause of death : Epileptic fits Authorisation : John Patterson, husband Comments : Dau. of Martin & Jane FOSTER (nee BEACOM) b. & mar. Fermanagh ch. John & Mary Jane I looked her up on the CDs I have of Victorian b/d/ms and there is little to add except the Registration Number : . I believe I have sent the index entry previously to the Millennium Presents site http://www.fermanagh.org.uk/fermanaghpresents along with other Fermanagh deaths in Victoria, but the above cemetery entry adds some more detail. There is a possible cemetery entry for her husband : Surname: PATTERSON Given Name : John Date of funeral : 05/09/1890 (i.e. 5 Sept) Religion : Church of England Age : 68 years Occupation : Farmer Authorisation : John Thomas Forster The entry for this man in the b/d/m index is as follows : Surname: PATTERSON Given Names: Jno Event: D Sex: M Father: Jno Mother: Mary MCKIE Age: 68 Death Place: Oakleigh Year: 1890 Reg. Number: 13208 Hope this is of help to someone. Best wishes, Valerie Henshaw Melbourne, Australia

There is a golf course where my husband (and sometimes I) play with an old small cemetery right in the middle of it. I sometimes take a minute to go over and read the tombstones, let those people know that someone is thinking of them. - Jane >From: "Valerie/Rowan Henshaw" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FERMANAGH] PATTERSON/FOSTER/BEACOM death >Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:18:13 +1100 > >G'day listers and belated New Years greetings to you all, > >Today I was at my local public library in search of some summer reading. It >stands opposite a small cemetery which is in the middle of parkland, with >children's play equipment, barbecues, a gazebo, etc. Why aren't more >cemeteries located amongst the living? I like to think of the dead enjoying >the children's laughter. > > >> >Valerie Henshaw >Melbourne, Australia > > >==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== >Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone >with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

My grandmother was from Pettigo and some of her records show both counties. We visited Pettigo last summer and found that sometimes to get to another section of the town, we had to drive from County Donegal and into Fermanagh and then back into Donegal - all within Pettigo! So that may explain why some records differ. - Jane >From: "sandra armstrong" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FERMANAGH] Flood/McMahon in Pettigo Donegal >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:05:17 +1100 > >Although I belong to Nancy Monaghan's Pettigo page, I really need some >local information on the families above. >When my McMahon family arr in Sydney Australia, with five of their >children, they gave their native place as Donegal, nr Pettigo. >However my gggmother ( one of the five) gives her birth place as >Fermanagh, which seems to indicate either > >1. they moved around, having ten children > >2. they were so on the border they didn't know what county they were >in > >Could someone please pinpoint some places and Catholic parishes for me, >so that I can continue my search for their parents. >Patrick McMahon gave his parents as Ross McMahon and Rose Crane >Winifred Flood gave her parents as Denis/Thomas and Bridget ( gone to >America) > >thanks very much in advance >Sandra in Qld Australia > > > >==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== >Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone >with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Although I belong to Nancy Monaghan's Pettigo page, I really need some local information on the families above. When my McMahon family arr in Sydney Australia, with five of their children, they gave their native place as Donegal, nr Pettigo. However my gggmother ( one of the five) gives her birth place as Fermanagh, which seems to indicate either 1. they moved around, having ten children 2. they were so on the border they didn't know what county they were in Could someone please pinpoint some places and Catholic parishes for me, so that I can continue my search for their parents. Patrick McMahon gave his parents as Ross McMahon and Rose Crane Winifred Flood gave her parents as Denis/Thomas and Bridget ( gone to America) thanks very much in advance Sandra in Qld Australia

Hi Jim, People associated with Lord Erne's home estates would be more likely to say they came from "Crom" - it being a) the actual townland on which the Castle of the same name is situated. b) a looser reference to any townland in the general vicinity which was under the control of Lord Erne c) the District Electoral Division (less unlikely) M. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] ERNE > That's what I originally thought also. Now I think it was intended for > informed readers to realize that he came from a specific part of Ireland. > Thanks for your response. Jim > > > ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. >

NBC had an article on this subject. If you care it can be seen at. www.msnbc.com/news/682153.asp Sandy Small _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Would welcome any suggestions from anyone who may have researched these records. My g-g grandfather, Peter Plunkett, son of Mathew Plunkett and Catherine Drugan, states in his US Naturalization records that he was born in Lismalore, Co. Fermanagh, on 6 May 1809. He was Catholic. He arrived at Boston, via Halifax NS, on 20 Aug 1831. As there are no Catholic records available for that parish at that time and it was well before Griffiths, I think research of Colebrooke Estate records is my option--Lismalore supposedly was part of the Colebrooke Estate at that time and and the PRONI web site states that they hold among other records, rent books and leases. I would welcome input from anyone who has done research using these records. Thanks Jim M.

Thank You I did, and I think it will help. Thank you for you help. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Flanagan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: January 17, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] HELP > Go to the Fermanagh Gold site, and search the indexes. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margaret McNab > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FERMANAGH] HELP > > I need help. !! I know my WILLIAM WHITTERS was born in Ireland Approx 1810, probably in FERMANAGH area, but I have not been able to find any records with his actual birth place. Is it possible to obtain the names and address of parish in the county??. Or does anyone have any better suggestions. > Thank you all > Margaret > > DUCEY/DUSEY WHITTERS MILNE MCNAB > > > ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. > > > ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. >

In a message dated 1/17/02 11:10:35 AM, [email protected] writes: << Can anyone tell me if the results of the 1881 census for Enniskillen are available and if so, how one can access them ? >> The only censuses that are complete for Fermanagh are the 1901 and the 1911. Others were destroyed (either by fire or by government order). There are small remnants of the 1821 census which survived the fire. These consist of parts of the parishes of Derryvullan and Aghalurcher. The NAI and PRONI have these and I believe they have been filmed by LDS. You can also search it on the Fermanagh Gold site (see below). There are also copies of extracts made from the 1841 and 1851 censuses for use by people making a claim for the Old Age Pensions. These extracts are available on LDS film 258357. For a list of some census substitutes and some databases to search, see the genealogy section of the Fermanagh Gold site http://www.fermanagh.org.uk/ You have to register to use it, but it is free. Good luck! Janet C-S

I was just are then any census that go back before 1820 in Fermanagh? Thanks Betty in Kansas

Hi Everybody, Can anyone tell me if the results of the 1881 census for Enniskillen are available and if so, how one can access them ? Thanks, John Paul

BuddY: It wasn't just in Baltimore that people identified the part of the city where they lived with their RC Parish. Boston Irish did the same. It was particularly important if a person went away for a summer vacation. Your parish identified your social status. At the roller skating rink the parish was VERY important. A boy was much more desireable if he came from the Holy Name Parish than if he came from St. Joseph's (which I did). I cann't get much feed-back on these customs being carried over from the old country. When asked from where I came in Boston, I still answer "St. Joe's"! Sincerely, Bill Golden

Go to the Fermanagh Gold site, and search the indexes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret McNab Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FERMANAGH] HELP I need help. !! I know my WILLIAM WHITTERS was born in Ireland Approx 1810, probably in FERMANAGH area, but I have not been able to find any records with his actual birth place. Is it possible to obtain the names and address of parish in the county??. Or does anyone have any better suggestions. Thank you all Margaret DUCEY/DUSEY WHITTERS MILNE MCNAB ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland.

I need help. !! I know my WILLIAM WHITTERS was born in Ireland Approx 1810, probably in FERMANAGH area, but I have not been able to find any records with his actual birth place. Is it possible to obtain the names and address of parish in the county??. Or does anyone have any better suggestions. Thank you all Margaret DUCEY/DUSEY WHITTERS MILNE MCNAB

That's what I originally thought also. Now I think it was intended for informed readers to realize that he came from a specific part of Ireland. Thanks for your response. Jim

In the context it was used I would presume it meant Ireland vs. the Erne Rich Tinneny

My grandfather's death notice references his early years and birth in Erne. As a youngster I was always confused with references to Ireland as Erin, Eire and Erne. I would guess that Erne makes reference to that area formerly under the control of Lord Erne. Is this true or is there more to the geographical reference to Erne? All replys welcome. Jim