Hi Maureen, I'd appreciate any info on an Elizabeth O'ROURKE. She was born about 1800 and married Thomas CRAWFORD prior to 1828. That's all the info I have....... Thanks, Chris

Having ploughed through all the wonderful information from BUD on the Fermanagh Story I picked up a lot of names that I have in my family files. Most of mine are from the Rosslea and Newtownbutler area and relate back to the early 1800's. O Rourke and Little are two that really hit my eye. I would imagine that whoever is searching LITTLE may have some problems. Little/lytle is the English translation of BEGGAN ie. Beggan in gaelic means the little people and in the 18th century some changed their name to Little. I believe it was OWEN BEGGAN but it would be worth while for anyone searching this name to look at 'AL BEAGANS' site on Co Monaghan and Cavan. The little family like the Beggans moved across the Border into Fermanagh and are still around the area of Newtownbutler, Rosslea and Lisnaskea. Strangely enough although it was assumed that this happened around the famine time and 'they took the soup' I do have Littles who are catholic. O' Rourkes are very prominent in Rosslea records and again I have some Beggan/O Rourke marriages. If anyone wishes to give me dates etc. I will be happy to see if I can find a fit. Again McDermots are a name in this area. Murrays are everywhere. Maureen

Hi I'm interested in West and Wilson! Thanks Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] The Fermanagh Story; English/Scottish names > Hello William, > I am interested in what your book has to offer on the Robinson Family...... > Thanks > Tracy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Flanagan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:45 PM > Subject: [FERMANAGH] The Fermanagh Story; English/Scottish names > > > > Reid > > Richardson > > Ritchie > > Robinson > > Rutledge > > > > ______________________________

Could SKS provide some advice please? I have traced my Fermanagh forebears back to my gr gr grandparents Owen and Mary DOLAN (d. 1864, 1866 respectively) of Dromore Townland Fermanagh and have determined that they had another son, probably an older brother to my gr grandfather Felix DOLAN , also named Owen DOLAN who probably lived at Sandhill Townland about the 1860s, 1870s etc. How do I trace his descendants? Are there indexes of births etc. that show the parents names or addresses? Any thoughts/suggestions please? Regards, Peter Dolan [email protected]

I have just seen the reference to OWEN DOLAN marriage to CATHERINE HARREN. HARREN is not a common name BUT by strange coincidence I remembered seeing it somewhere and then thinking it was odd. Anyhow MARY ANN HARREN was godmother to my grandfather FRANCIS BEGGAN in January 1886 which would place her in the ROSSLEA area of Fermanagh. The other godparent was BERNARD MAGUIRE and as I have not come across this anywhere else in the BEGGAN crowd I am assuming the connection is with the Maguires. There was and probably still is a DOLAN family in Rosslea. The wife was the district nurse when I was living around there. It may help. Maureen

Bud, good day. Relative to the aforementioned list in your post of yesterday---my g-g-grandfather was James Elliott, from townland of Coolcrannel. He was married to Ann(e) Jane Dunbar in 1834. They had 8 children, one of whom died as an infant. Is there anything in THE BOOK about this family? As usual, I appreciate mightily your input. Marion Wood

To: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH]Fermanagh Story - CORRIGAN > CORRIGAN (O Corragáin) : The Corrigans wre a branch of the Cineál > Eoghain who settled in Fermanagh. They were herenachs of Magheraveely, near > Clones, but today they are most common in Cleenish. Prior Rory Corrigan > took part in the two Plantation courts, held in 1603 and 1609. It was, > presumably, at the time of the Plantations that the Corrigans crossed the > lake to Clanawley. Two Corrigans appear on the freehold list of 1761 - > William and Henry of Drumrainy - and seven had votes in 1788, namely James, > William, Thomas and Robert of Drumrainy; James of Ballyreagh; and William > and John of Enniskillen. These, presumably, had become Protestants. > Twenty-one had votes in 1796 when Catholics were allowed to vote. Today > there are 173 Corrigan voters in Fermanagh land it is the county's 25th > family. >

To: "Donna Lee Butler" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] Fw: Fermanagh story -HENDERSON > HENDERSON The Henderson's were an English family, who came to Ireland as > Plantation tenants. We find William with Sir John Hume in Magheraboy; > Robert with Sir George Hume in Magheraboy; James in Lurg; and James and > Simon on the Balfour estate. There were 71 Henderson voters in 1962.

Thank you William for sending that information on the DOLAN surname. Mary L. Casey

Peter Don't know if it helps, but these marriages might be of use: a Felix DOLAN married Jane FLANAGAN on 30th September 1880. an Owen DOLAN married Mary CORRIGAN on 23rd March 1893. an Owen DOLAN married Catharine HARREN on 19th February 1901. > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Dolan [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FERMANAGH] Advice please re DOLAN descendents > > Could SKS provide some advice please? > > I have traced my Fermanagh forebears back to my gr gr grandparents Owen > and Mary DOLAN (d. 1864, 1866 respectively) of Dromore Townland Fermanagh > and have determined that they had another son, probably an older brother > to my gr grandfather Felix DOLAN , also named Owen DOLAN who probably > lived at Sandhill Townland about the 1860s, 1870s etc. > How do I trace his descendants? > Are there indexes of births etc. that show the parents names or addresses? > Any thoughts/suggestions please? > > Regards, > > Peter Dolan > [email protected] > > > > ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the original Fermanagh mailing list. This list is for anyone > with a genealogical interest in County Fermanagh Ireland. This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.

William, Sorry, and let me correct it. Michael Martin born 1823, and brother Terence. I am interested in what your book has to offer on the Martin Family. My GGGrandfather's Civil War record said he came from Fermanagh, and I am stuck there. Thanks Bob Martin

Just for other people's information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Henderson" <[email protected]> To: "John L Irvine" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Fermanagh story > Hi John, > > The book gives us a general origin of the surnames and then mention of > anyone prominent with that surname. Nothing of when a certain family left > because probably some of them with the surname are still there. It is very > picky to work through the book as there may be one mention of a name on a > page and you have to slog through the whole page, which isn't too bad but if > there are pages and pages, it takes a long time. > > How disappointing not to have some clue as to when they left. I assume you > have looked at the census in Canada for them. There is an 1871 Census > online somewhere at the Gov't of Canada site, it's been awhile since I used > it but it's not that hard to find. It gives the head of each family and > what country they were born in. That helps a bit to pinpoint which ancestor > was the first to come over. If you have trouble finding it let me know and > I'll look for it again. > > Bonnie > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John L Irvine" <[email protected]> > To: "Bonnie Henderson" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: Fermanagh story > > > > Bonnie, > > is there anything in the book about the Irvine's leaving?? > > I am desperately trying to figure out if my Irvines' came from Fermanagh > and if > > they did, when did they leave. > > I know of a family of Irvine in NY state that came from Fermanagh in > 1820's but > >

Chapter 31 - Fermanagh Families p427 FARMER (Mac Scoloige) : This family was common in Aghalurcher where they were herenachs and later in Cleenish. They were also herenachs of Rossory and gave some clerics to the Church. In 1796 James was a freeholder at Rossorry; Owen and Brian were freeholders at Cleenish and Edward and Terence were freeholders at Derrvullen. There are 40 Farmer voters in Fermanagh today. (1962)

p 461 LENDRUM There were about 20 Lendrum voters in 1962 and the family was prominent in the Magheracross area. p 459 HOEY, HOWE . . . These forms are sometimes used as anglicisations of the Irish name O hEachaidh (common in Armagh and down and also anglicised Haughey). Sometimes confused with them are MacEochaidh (which also gave Keogh) and MacEachaidh (which gave McCahey, McGAHEY, McCaughey). There were 172 voters in 1962 with the names Hoy-Hoey-Howe. No mention of any BOWLES (or anything like them), sorry.

p 461 LENDRUM There were about 20 Lendrum voters in 1962 and the family was prominent in the Magheracross area. p 459 HOEY, HOWE . . . These forms are sometimes used as anglicisations of the Irish name O hEachaidh (common in Armagh and down and also anglicised Haughey). Sometimes confused with them are MacEochaidh (which also gave Keogh) and MacEachaidh (which gave McCahey, McGAHEY, McCaughey). There were 172 voters in 1962 with the names Hoy-Hoey-Howe. No mention of any BOWLES (or anything like them), sorry.

> pp 459, 460 > > IRVINE also Irwin. The names Irvine and Irwin are often confused. Irvine > is a Scottish placename. Irwin derives from the old English 'eoforwine' and > means 'boar-friend'. the Gaelic family O heireamhain, also became Irvine. > The O.S.B. for Enniskillen mentions that Irwin was generally a name of the > lower classes, while Irvine was used by the nobility. Despite these > differences the names may be taken together for Fermanagh. There were, in > 1962, 176 Irvinevoters and 72 Irwins. > > In 1878 eight Irvine landlords had 12,289 acres in Fermanagh, 4,621 in > Tyrone and 14,352 in Donegal. In addition, the Irwins held 29,000 acres, > mostly in Connacht but seven held estates in Fermanagh. > > Despite this later wealth the family had comparatively humble beginnings in > Fermanagh. Christopher Irvine came to Fermanagh from Dumfries in the early > days of the Plantation, with a number of other Irvine tenants. Christopher > Irvine was one of those whose efforts, however, helped the Plantation to > succeed better than many of the landlords. Christopher was a tenant with > Thomas Barton, who got the estate of Drumunshyn in Lurg. Barton also bought > Necharney. Both of these estates passed into the hands of Sir Gerard > Lowther. A second Sir Gerard Lowther also opurchassed the estate of Dooross > in 1630 and in 1632 leased all three estates to Christopher Irvine. The > Rosgweer estate also passed into Irvine hands after 1667. > > The Irvines later gave their name to Irvinestown. William Irvine, who was > born in Fermanagh in 1740 was one of the heroes of the American War of > Independece. Colonel William Irvine presided over the Dungannon Convention > in 1782 and George Irvine was one of the few Fermanagh people to fight in > the 1916 Rebellion, on the Republican side. > > >

pp 352 CARROTHERS This family is so called because it originated in Carruthers in Dumfriesshire. It was represented by 41 voters in 1962. Nathaniel Carrothers, the famous botanist, was born at Farnaght, Lisbellaw in 1852.

ADAMS also McAdam, McCadden, McCaw, Cadden. This is both an Irish and an English family. (a) O Cadain was a Gaelic Fermanagh family which lived in the Roslea-Clones area and whose headquarters were at Sith Mor Bhaile Uf Chadain. This name has been anglicised O'Cadden, Cadden, Adams. (b) MacAdhaimh, mentioned by O'Donovan, was a native Gaelic family in Cavan and this name was anglicised McAdam, McCaw and Adams. Some of these may have come to Fermanagh. (c) MacCadain was an old Gaelic herenach family in Armagh and some of these may have drifted into Fermanagh. (d) Adams, meaning the red-haired people, was an English name. It is sometimes given as Eadie. Some of the English family came to Fermanagh. In 1639 Thomas Adams of Drumkeen was granted one-and-a-half tates in Drumkeen and Cahore. In 1629 George Adams was a tenant on the Balfour estate. p 500 See Adams, A genealogical History of Adams of Cavan (London, 1903)

Hello Richard, You kindly offered a few snippets of information about the DRUMM family. I would love to have them. Tried to email you privately and postmaster returned my message. Anyway, still would like any information available for Drumm. Thanks. Kate Hands, Australia

MURRAY; There were 132 Murrays on the register in 1962. The ancestor of some of them had their origins in Moray, Scotland, and we instance Richard and William, tenants on the Balfour estate; and Charles, a tenant on teh church lands in Clankelly. The name, along with Morrow, is also an anglicisation of teh Irish, O'Muireadhaigh, Mac Giolla Muire and Mac Muireadhaigh. MORROW; (Mac Muireadhaigh); The Morrows have come into Fermanagh from Leitrim where they ar still common around Manorhamilton. The center of the Mac Muireadhaigh clan in Leitrim was at Loughmoytagh. There were 109 Morrow voters in co Fermanagh in 1969