Killyfole only appears on very detailed ownland maps and I have to say other than the fact of the 'loch' there you would be through it before you missed it. Now that is my Irish roots coming out! . I spent many a happy summers day playing by the loch and eating the freshly caught 'pike' cooked over a a fire made from twigs and branches gathered around there. What I do find interesting is the number of people searching this area over the last few weeks. Corranney. Loughgare, Killyliffer and follum. The 'locals' would be very surprised to hear how this tiny total area is so much 'in the news. Maureen

I am a new lister trying to locate burial location of a Edward Gilroy and Sarah Flemming born around 1730's in Enniskillen. Sincerely, A.Gilroy

I missed this one. again Donagh Cemetery Patrick Carey , Artinagh d. 23 Nov. 1938 his nephew John Carey d. 30th Sept. 1938 his brother Philip d. 30th March 1939. Maureen

Aghalurcher Cemetery records William Magee erected this stone for his son John d. 24/06/1794 aged 3 yrs also Sarah died August 1791 aged 7yrs. Maureen

1851 census Sallaghy/Galoon Parish Hugh Carey hd. 50. Bessy wife. 40. Patrick 22. Kate 19. and Catherine 40 living with the Swift family and denoted as head. aged 40. Reverend James Carey Newbliss. in 1870. Donagh Cemetery records Eleanor Kerry d. 7th September 1729. aged 40. Michael Keary d. 22nd feb. 1778 a.26. Joh Keary to his father Patrick d. 27th Aug. 1767 a. 47. Rose Carey who died in New York 1916 to her parents Alexander and Rose of Kieranmore. St Livinus RC cemetery Kileevan it just says Patrick Carey. Maureen

Hi, Being new to Family History Research and living in England, I need to ask help to start me on my way to finding my Irish Connections. Will SKS with access to the 1851 and / or 1901Census please look up the Beatty family living in Follom Corrany, Newtownbutler Co Fermanagh. Any information will be gratefully received. Thank you. Carol.

Hi Maureen & Listers I know I have seen replies regarding the Irish Free State, but for some odd reason, I did not save it. Now I need to know what counties were included especially if Fermanagh or Butlerbridge Co Cavan are two of these. James & Elizabeth (nee McKeon, McKuen) emigrated to the Port of NY in May 1870 with three children Patrick, James & Elizabeth approximate ages of 10,8,& 5 respectivley. All of the death certificates and censuses I have, just state Ireland as place of birth. On the 1930 census, place of birth is listed as Irish Free State. The widow of my father's cousin says they are from Butlersbridge Co Cavan, but I have found nothing to substantiate this. I am also leaning towards Fermanagh as their county of origin, since I found on a search of the IGI an Elizabeth Teevan born on 5 Aug, 1865 in Belleek, Fermanagh to a James Teevan and a Eliza Keon. Young Elizabeth was born on 5 August, but on all of my documentation, the year of birth varies as does the other children. Any suggestions on where to look for their county of origin? Verna Researching: Goodrick (h), Wilson,Taylor, Knight (Baltimore) Teevan (Ireland, PA, MD); McManus, McKeon, McGena (Ireland) Dickinson (England, MD, PA)

Carol, I believe the 'Old Beatty house' is still at least partly standing in Follum. I am a little confused with the mention of a 'Mass Card' as I thought they were Cof I but anyhow you should have no problems tracing this family. There is a Samuel Beatty in Follum Little in Griffiths 1862. They will definitely be in the 1901 census. There will also be marriage records available in Enniskillen Town Hall and birth records at Groni or baptismal records at the local church, which for this area are. Drumswords Catholic Church, 'maybe ' St Tierneys in Rosslea. Aghadrumsee Cof I . Drumswords and Aghadrumsee are within three or four miles of Follum and the schools [where there also maybe records] are Corraney [Catholic] and Aghadrumsee Cof I. I do not have cemetery records of either Drumswords or Aghadrumsee but I have searched . Donagh, Aghavea, Aghalurcher and St Tierneys Rosslea and although there are Beatty's in Aghavea and Aghalurcher they are Cof I and from Kilkeeran. As I said I am being put off by the 'Mass Card' which would indicate Catholic but perhaps you could come back to me on this. as I have quite a few records showing Beatty which could be helpful to you when you get further back down the line. I also know the area extremely well. ie. names of other families in this small hamlet etc. could help with Rose's maiden name. Maureen

I am new to this list and are researching my husbands line of Beatty. The only information that I have is from a Mass card which tells me Mrs Rose Beatty (His Grandmother) died on 27th of March 1938 age 62 in Follom, Corrany, Newtownbutler,Co Fermanagh. Her son Joseph Beatty came to England in early 1930, and I would appreciate any information on the Irish connection. Thankyou. Carol

I want to thank the several people who responded. Remembering that I am dealing with a somewhat small number of records........approx. 140 This routine may help if you are trying to capture other data in a similiar way. 1) Open a "new" excel spreadsheet (or other software). 2) Reduce it to "mid-size" and drag/move it to the lower letf. 3) "Open" the Griffith's CD. Reduce to mid-size and move to upper right. Find/select the first of the several records that you want. 4) There is a blue Icon if you want more information. Click that and you will get a new page with the name at the top. The "more information" is the field "location". I am trying to find out why that isn't "townland". In very few cases (2 for me), you will receive a "comments" section. The recorder was trying to differentiate between two O'Briens (we'll say). 5) Now select the spreadsheet (have the mouse hit it anywhere) and enter the data in the next open row going across the columns. (my columns are/seq. no./name/county/parish/location and the last one is location. 6) Hit the OK button in the shaded Griffith's page and you will back to the records. Start again at #4 7) Storing the spreadsheet every once in a while. Why did I do this? In the 140 GUNN records there are three OWENs....my gr-gr-grandfather's name. I sorted by parish. Found the first Owen and with him were JAMES AND THOMAS.....all reading the same Fermanagh/Clones/Killyfole......this is my "prime" suspect since the other two did not match as well. My apology to all of you but FELIX GUNN does not have that ring to it. Felix Gibson as Braveheart!!!!! Any comments, etc. should be directed to me off-line at gunnsr@compuserve.com Thanks, Jim Gunn Blue bell

I have read the introduction on the CD but I don't have a clear meaning of the "Location Field". I have three "Gunn records" with the following: County: Fermanagh Parish: Clones "Location": Killyfole Why isn't the term "townland" used here? I notice that the "Tithe Applotment Books" use townland. Thank you again, Jim Gunn

----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Flanagan" <williamjflanagan@cox.net> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: [FERMANAGH] Looking in Graveyards Very important to Irish researchers and it is this which makes things complicated for those not in the know. Thanks for your posting. Heather

8/16/02 Dear William & List, My ancestors (Keaney & Dolan) have lived at Drumkeenagh since at least the early 1820's. They were farmers, and Roman Catholic. Can you tell me if it is able to research thetownland. Thanks, Deanna Dolan Belyavski, from sunny San Carlos, California

Anne, I am researching the McDonagh family from Fermanagh. James McDonagh was from Drumkeeran. His boys were Owen b. 1861 and James b. 1874 (maybe others that I do not know of). Owen's sons were James, Edward, Bernard, Emmet, Eugene (Owen's baptismal name), Raymond. Since the Irish seem to keep using the same names, perhaps there is a connection. Any information you can share on the family would be appreciated. Lori in Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Maye" <a_mayezing@yahoo.com.au> To: <FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: [FERMANAGH] Re: MORRISON/MCDONAGH > G'day > > Am back again after a break for family so am posting > interests again. > > Mary/Mabel MORRISON, farm servant, native place > Lisseen, left from Kesh & Ederney areas for Australia > in early 1840s with husband Bernard MCDONAGH/MCDONOUGH > and their three sons Edward, Owen and James. Bernard > died at sea. > > Would love to find some connections. Mabel's father > was Edward MORRISON. I have no other details. > > Anne MAYE > > http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au > - Find yourself a bargain! > > > ==== FERMANAGH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to County Fermanagh, Ireland. We hope you find your people. > Our County Fermanagh website is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirfer2/ > Our Ireland website is: http://irelendgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ >

Excerpt from an article in a magazine under " Church Records" "No matter what an ancestor's religion, do not overlook the records of the Church of Ireland. It was common for Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, Congregationalists, and Quakers to be buried in Church of Ireland cemeteries until the Burial Act of 1868. Until the general emancipation of Catholics in 1829, many Catholics were also buried in Church of Ireland graveyards. Some of these cemeteries had their own Catholic section. Prior to 1782, marriages that were not performed by a Church of Ireland minister were illegal. So if a Catholic or Presbyterian family had any real-estate, they may have had a Church of Ireland marriage ceremony to make the union legal and preserve their property rights. In the 18th century, it was common to find baptisms of Protestant dissenters in Church of Ireland registers.

Wondering if anyone can help me out. I am looking for information on a Jewellery store in Eniskillen called Tom Hare's Jewellery Store, and a current address if the store is still there???? >From what I have been able to piece together, it seems a relative was the owner of this store. I know her last name was Robinson and her first name might have been Mary Jane. She died in the late 70's possibly early 80's. I was hoping to find an obit for this lady. A cousin visited the store in 1985 and was told she had passed on a few years back. I obviously have a lot of questions and was hoping to connect with someone in the area that wouldn't mind getting me the stores address so I could write and find out more about the former owner. Thank you for all your help and/or suggestions Tracy in Toronto Canada _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Has anyone ever attempted to download a set of records from the Griffith's Valuation CD??? For example, if I were able to load the GUNN data onto a spreadsheet.........I would then be able to sort by Parish, townland, etc. Thank you, Jim Gunn

My Fermanagh (as well as my Scottish) ancestors came via the St. Lawrence River to St. Lawrence and Jefferson counties. That would have been one of the shortest sailing distances from either Scotland or Ireland to North America. It seems to have been a common pattern for those who ended up in the "North Country." Unfortunately there are few ships records easily available for those who immigrated via Quebec (Port of Entry) and then across the river to New York. If I remember correctly, O'berg was a common point of entry for those who came up the St. Lawrence. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Merkley [mailto:norval@magma.ca] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:37 AM To: FERMANAGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FERMANAGH] Immigration Patterns/Mealey Dear Shelle: I haven't got a clue how she got to Ogdensburg but I suspect she may have come through New York City. I know early patterns (i.e. my Scottish ancestors who came to St. Lawrence County) may well have come through Canada, although at least one branch did come through New York City. I haven't explore how Isabella got to the Ogdensburg area as I just found out about her. My genealogical research had the wrong set of parents for my gr.grandfather but an old obituary found in a pile of photos by my mother's cousin in California has sent me off in a flurry of excitement. If I find out anything re: immigration patterns, will let you know and thank you for your offer to "keep your eyes peeled" for Isabella. For now Sue

Hello, I'm looking for information regarding Edward KANE born 1839? and Ellen FUREY born 1841. William KANE born 1837? Fermanagh could be his brother. William married Eliza LATTIMER born 1834, Knocksborough, Fermanagh in 1860?. Edward and Ellen are buried in Belleville, Hastings County, Ontario, Canada, along with their children. Fran

Good morning to all.. I have been trying to figure out the roots of this KIRKPATRICK family for some time now, and have hit a huge brick wall..Here is what I have... John KIRKPATRICK m. Elizabeth MONTGOMERY in Aghavea, Fermanagh, Ireland, on Jan 13, 1813. He had 2 sons that we know of. Supposedly he and his wife immigrated to Canada with the two sons. We know the sons were there, but have found no proof of John and Elizabeth being there. I think there were more children than the 2 boys, but not able to prove that so far.. We have a distant relative Florrie KIRKPATRICK still living in Lisnaskea.. I would love to sort this puzzle out while she is still living.. She is 94 and her memory is not as good as it used to be, so she is not able to help me beyond a few pieces of info. she has given me.. One of the things I am trying to figure out if John #1(m. Elizabeth) was indeed the father of a John KIRKPATRICK (#2) b. 1/20/1862 (?) and who married a Mary DOUGLAS.. They had 6 children John b.7-6-1855, William 26-2-1860, Hugh(Florrie's father)20-1-1862, Thomas 20-4-1864, MaryJane 8-7-1860 & Elizabeth 14-9-1860. KIRKPATRICK b. 1/20/1862.. Hugh married Mary McCLLELAND, and they had 6 children. Douglas, Hubert, Florence(Florrie), Maud, Mary Elizabeth(Molly), and Edith. If anyone has any info on this family and/or sees any connection Please, PLEASE contact me.. I do have more info., and would love to find someone who is researching any of these families.. Thanks for taking the time to read this.. Have a great day.. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan