If you have any names or dates, you should contact the PRONI... Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, 66 Balmoral Ave., Belfast BT9 6NY, No. Ire. They have holdings from about 1830 You may also contactthe Northern Ireland registrar General's Office, Oxford House, Chichester St., Belfast BT1 4HL..they have records of births marriages and deaths from 1864 and some Protestant marriages from 1845. In Fermanagh itself, there is the Fermanagh Divisional Library in Enniskillen and the Fermanagh County Museum, Castle Barracks in Enniskillen..(Actually the old Maguire (my clan) castle which has been restored) You can also contact Irish World, 3A Bellmore Street, Enniskillen They are a research service. You can also go and find your local FHC of the Mormon Library.. There are 3 in Houston...10555 Mills Road, 16331 Hafer Road and 1101 Bering Dr. There is one in Sugarland at 602 Eldridige Road and one in Pasadena on 4202 Yellowstone. You can find the tel. no.'s in the phone book under Church of the Later Day Saints.... You can check their holdings and then their catalog and perhaps order church and government records to review at your convenience when they arrive. call them and see when they are open as they all have different times. Good Luck Maureen Maloney At 05:07 PM 10/27/98 -0800, you wrote: >I will be in Fermanagh next Spring specifically to trace my family's >roots. In advance of the trip, would you please advise on research >methods from here, (Houston, Texas). >Great thanks for any help. >Robert Moffitt > >

I am searching for data on the Moore, the Douglas and the McClintock Families. My grandfather, Joseph Moore was born in Barnfield, Cloyne on March 13, 1878 and he married Martha Jane McClintock from Aughinure in Christ Church, Maguiresbridge, Co. Fermanagh on February 26, 1908. Joseph was a landstewart in Drumgoon (?) prior to his marriage. They lived in Co Fermanagh from 1908 untill about 1913 during which time Annie Moore was born in Aughanure (1909), Mary Elizabeth was born in Lislane (1910), John William was born in Aghinure (1911) Martha moved back to Cork while my Grandfather fought in WW1. Charles Douglas (1914) and Winifred Moore (1913) were born in "Ringmahon"?, Blackrock Co Cork. Joseph (1916), George (1922), Richard (1924) & Catherine Moore (1926) were born in Enniskillen & Castlecaldwell. Martha had the following siblings: Anne (b. 1883), Robert James (1885), William John (1886), Alfred (1892), Elizabeth (1894), Douglas (1896) and Lily Josephine (1899). Martha's parents were Charles McClintock (B. ca 1855) & Mary Douglas (1855) Apparently my Grandfather, Joseph Moore, had 18 siblings but I have no information on any of them. He died in 1936 in Maguiresbridge, Co. Fermanagh. If any one can help with the Moore family or the McClintock or Douglas families I would appreciate it. Thanks, Ian

I will be in Fermanagh next Spring specifically to trace my family's roots. In advance of the trip, would you please advise on research methods from here, (Houston, Texas). Great thanks for any help. Robert Moffitt

Hello Kathy The description of AREA is as acres,rods,perches. This is the old Imperial land measurement and not generally in use today. The description of RENT is as Pounds, Shillings , Pence. Again the British monetary form at the time. My dictionary describes "moiety" as a "half". Plot 6 looks like it had been divided for separate leases. Hope this helps Max Carrick Southern Cross Genealogy Australia's National I.S.P. for Genealogists and Historians www.southernx.com.au Freecall 1800 882 884 for connection

I have received some information from the Land Services Division in Dublin on the land on which our family were tenants in 1883. Could someone help me decipher this information? Thank you very much. Kathy PLOT NO. 4 TENANT: John Smith (PAT) AREA S.M.: 13a-3r-37p RENT: 5- 0s - 0d TENURE: Judicial Order No. 1 made 7/8/1883 PLOT NO. 6 TENANT: John Smith Rep. of William Smith. Do. AREA S.M.: 9a-1r-2p RENT: 3 0 9s - 9d TENURE: Judicial Order No. 5 made 18/12/1890 6B (undivided moiety cont. in all) AREA S.M.: 1a-2r-27p PLOT NO. 6A TENANT: Thomas Jones Rep. of William Smith AREA S.M.: 8a-1r-39p RENT: 3 - 9s 9p TENURE: Same 6B (undivided moiety cont. in all) AREA S.M. 1z-2r-27p Any help you could give me in understanding this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

I am looking for the family of a Samuel Cauthers, born in Ireland about 1802 based on his age at death, who married in 1824 at a Presbyterian church in Montreal Jane Bave, and died in Montreal. He had atleast two children. John Cauthers was born in Quebec in 1823, from his age at death in Dec 1895 at age 72, of alcoholism, suggesting perhaps his father was previously married, lived and died in Montreal, married a woman from England, and had a son, Edmund, and four girls, one was my great grandmother. Samuel, born in Quebec about 1830 from his age in 1871 census, went to Ottawa, on the edge of Ontario, and married in the Roman Catholic cathedral there in 1856 and 1859, Catherine Meloney and Elizabeth Ford, and still lived in Ottawa in 1871 census, but may not have died there. I don't know where her family were from, but has anyone ever heard of the name Bave? Even with a different spelling, like Beve? Samuel Cauthers listed his birthplace as Quebec but his origin as Irish, suggesting that she, too, was Irish. There was another Cauthers family in Ontario. They were descended from Thomas, who settled in Dufferin, having come with his brother whose name I don't have in the 1820's to work on the Erie Canal. The brother supposedly went to Oregon or Washington, whre there is indeed a bunch of people named Cauthers. The name is so rare there are only two dozen phone listings for that name and six e-mail addresses in all of the U.S. and Canada. There is also a bunch of them in I think British Columbia, for some reason, and at one time there was a bunch in northern Michigan, I think quite possibly descended from Thomas, and I think they alternatively spelled their name Cathers. Which is a more common name. But my family seem to have known how to spell, and spelled their name with absolute consistency. John Cauthers was a clerk and accountant, and Samuel a hardware clerk. The descendent of Thomas who answered my mass six e-mail addresses e-mailing said her cousin who researched the family found that not all of the Cauthers in Ontario were related to each other. Some of them may be descended from my Samuel. According to both my Cauthers source whose cousin researched the family, (and whose records are buried in the attic), and also my own preliminary checking, there were only Cauthers in Ireland around Enniskillen and Tempo, Fermanagh County, Ireland. She may also ahve mentioned somewhere else, a town or a county, close by. I have found traces of them also in a place in Scotland, and two places in England. They had a tradition of having been Huguenots. In the REformation, people fled across the Channel by the tens of thousands in each direction, and I have another Irish Huguenot line - from Galway, also Protestant. Cauthers is an anglicized form of the name Gauthier. In fact, at the state mental hospital where my great grandmother, who had lifelong mental health problems, died, they got confused and typed her name on her death certificate as Gauther! BEcause the family was not of sound mental health and Quebec is how it is, and my great grandmother seemed decidedly over the edge on the subject of her "ENGLISH-Canadian" ethnicity, and Gauthier is a common name in Quebec, I thought until I proved he was Irish that John Cauther had anglicized his name! I would like to act on the notion that my Samuel is likely to be a Presbyterian from the area of Enniskillen and Tempo. How do I pursue that? One thing I'm not doing is going to Ireland. Yours, Dora Smith

In a message dated 10/26/98 9:43:30 PM, Whouse1@aol.com wrote: <<I am researching my Irish background. My Great grandmother was Katherine Gaffery. She is listed on my Grandmother's certificate of death as being from Ireland. I understand that the name Gaffery has roots to Fermanagh. I would love to hear about the history of the Gaffery name. >> Are you sure of the name? There is GAFFNEY which is found in Fermanagh, but more common in Cavan and Roscommon; GAFFEY, which is found in Roscommon and Galway; and also CAFFERY (and MacCAFFERY and MacCAFFREY) which are Fermanagh names. Perhaps you mistake a C for a G on the death certificate? Janet C-S

Hello, I am researching my Irish background. My Great grandmother was Katherine Gaffery. She is listed on my Grandmother's certificate of death as being from Ireland. I understand that the name Gaffery has roots to Fermanagh. I would love to hear about the history of the Gaffery name. Thank You, Will Henry House

HI, IS ANYONE RESEARCHING THESE FAMILIES, THERE COULD ALSO BE MASSIE AND REILLY. FROM AUSTRALIA.

An administrative suggestion: Is it possible to move the repeated "unsubscribe" information to the end of each issue? The heading, Today's Topics and Administrivia, take up the top half of a page. For those of us who print out most issues, the extra two inches of Administrivia often push the important text to an extra page. If only Administrivia were on the last page, I could omit that page entirely. I hope this doesn't sound too picky. Certainly those subscribers who enjoy the newsletter, aren't interested in unsubscribing -- and, if they change their minds, could find the instructions on all back issues. Keep up the good work. I'm fascinated by it all. Linda

I am pulling together what I know about the MONTGOMERY references for certain townlands in Fermanagh. Since other names are mentioned, I am sending this to the list. Suzanne Sommerville In Michigan, USA Tithe Applotment Books, FHL film #0258443, Aghalurcher Parish, >1833< A census of landowners & a list of tenants CLEA [as spelled. Also CLAY] Township Number of tithable acres Value per acre in each farm in A (acres), R (roods, P (perches) Patt McAnulty 3.3.0 12 Mary Forster 4.0.0 9 1/2 Patt Flanigan 8.0.12 12 1/2 William MONTGOMERY, sen 15.2.0 12 1/2 William MONTGOMERY 6.2.33 10 1/4 Owen Droogan 5.0.37 11 1/2 Robert MONTGOMERY 2.3 11 1/2 William Lunney 4.1.24 10 1/2? Pat Cosgrove 7.3.23 12 1/2 John Clark 9.20 11 1/2 John Breslin 8.1.34 12 1/2 Total Acres 71.0.36 Total Taxes £3.9.8 Same Townland in Griffith's Valuation >1862< FHL film #0258753 County of Fermanagh, Parish of Aghalurcher, Barony of Magherastephana, Elect. Div. Maguiresbridge, Township of Clay, Ordnance Survey Map #28 Occupiers Immediate Lessors Acres Thomas Johnston, Ambrose U. Gledstanes, 9.3.15 William MONTGOMERY, Thomas Johnston, 16.2.20 [House, offices, and land] Alice Flanagan, Same 15.1.10 Francis MONTGOMERY, Same 26.3.20 [House, offices, and land James Cosgrave, Same 8.3.0 William Lunny, Same 7.1.25 Patrick Cassidy, Same 12.2.20 James McGeraghty, Patrick Cassidy, John Breslin, Thomas Johnston 7.1.15 Hugh Breslin, Same 9.3.25 Jane Breslin, Same 13.3.0 Total of 128 acres Total Annual Valuation of Property £91.10.0

I am pulling together what I know about the MONTGOMERY references for certain townlands in Fermanagh. Since other names are mentioned, I am sending this to the list. Suzanne Sommerville In Michigan, USA Tithe Applotment Books, FHL film #0258443, Aghalurcher Parish, >1833< A census of landowners & a list of tenants Drumhariff Townland Number of titheable acres Value per acre in each farm in A (acres), R (roods, P (perches) Charles & Andrew Cassady 62.1.30 £3.25 FHL film #0258753 Townland, Drumharriff, in Griffith's Valuation >1862< County of Fermanagh, Parish of Aghalurcher, Barony of Magherastephana, Elect. div. Belleisle, Ordnance Survey Maps 27, 28, 33, 34 (Yes, it straddles the corners of four maps.) Occupiers Immediate Lessors Acres Andrew Cassidy, John Brady, 35.0.25 John McClintock, Andrew Cassidy, James McManus, Same, Michael White, Same, Mark Noble, John Brady, 76.2.25 John Deery, Mark Noble, William Sleator, Same, Unoccupied, Same, Anne MONTGOMERY, John Brady, 10.0.0 9.2.0 [Herd's ho., off., & ld.] Francis Faulkner, Same, 5.2.15 6.1.5 Thos. & Bernard Turney, Same, 1.2.10 John Brady, In fee 23.1.16 Total Acres 178.0.16 Total Assessed Valuation of Assessed Property £88.0.0

I am pulling together what I know about the MONTGOMERY references for certain townlands in Fermanagh. Since other names are mentioned, I am sending this to the list. Suzanne Sommerville In Michigan, USA Tithe Applotment Books, FHL film #0258443 >1833< A census of landowners & a list of tenants Mullaghkippin Townland Number of tithable acres Value per acre in each farm in A (acres), R (roods, P (perches) Wm MONTGOMERY & 62.1.0 £3.7.5 Capt. Charters FHL film #0258753 Same Townland,, in Griffith's Valuation >1862< County of Fermanagh, Parish of Derrybrusk, Barony of Magherastephana, Elect. Div. of Belleisle, Ordnance Survey Map #27 Occupiers Immediate Lessors Acres Thomas Armstrong, Reps. Eliz. Chartres & 2.2.30 Reps. Captain MONTGOMERY, 24.0.0 William Trimble, Same 1.0.20 21.0.20 William Trimble Same 4.3.15 Thomas Armstrong} James McElroy Same 0.0.33 15.0.20 0.0.15 Thomas McManus Reps. Eliz. Chartres & Reps. Captain MONTGOMERY, 0.3.33 14.3.30 0.0.30 Adam Wilson Same 1.1.0 17.0.10 John Fitzpatrick Same 0.1.0 Alexander MONTGOMERY Same 0.1.35 4.0.30 [House, offices, & land] 0.0.20 Anne Watkins Same 0.0.20 0.0.20 Andrew Cassidy Same 2.3.5 0.0.30 Thomas Arthur Andrew Cassidy Robert Wilson Sir James W. King. Bt. 3.1.25 5.0.20 Total Area 121.1.33 Total Annual Valuation of Ratable Property £86.0.0

Hello All Still searching for any connections to George Montgomery, b. 1815 - 1819, Clay, Fermanagh, father Charles?, mother Mary? married 1840 in Lisnaskea to Elizabeth m/s Montgomery, b. 1819, Drumharriff, Fermanagh, father William Montgomery, mother Catherine SCOTT. One or both of these families may have also been in Ederdacurragh (or Currah) & Mullaghkippen in Aghalurcher or Derrybrusk Parish. I've seen Mullaghkippen assigned to both of these parishes in different references. Family story says George was a gardener for the Big House and that he and Elizabeth, the daughter of the house, eloped. George and Elizabeth were in Glasgow, Scotland, by 1846. I have the family located after that. Griffith's Valuation for Fermanagh was in 1862, so it's hard to make a link through property records. Tithe records are too sketchy, except to indicate that several Montgomery families were in Fermanagh in 1833 and also on the 1788 List of Freeholders.. A cousin (or possibly nephew) of either George or Elizabeth, William, was in Brooklyn, New York, when he sent word to the family in Scotland in 1905 that an Alexander Montgomery had died at age 32, 5 Jan 1900: Alexander Montgomery, son of the late Alexander and the late Sarah Johnston Montgomery. Alexander and Sarah were married 25 May 1863 in Lisnaskea by license. An ? Charters was witness. A Charters or Chartres is also associated with the Griffith's valuation for Mullaghkippin and several other locations. A brother of Elizabeth, Andrew, married an Ann or Agnes Dolahan (also born in Ireland) in Bothwell, Scotland, 1856. Andrew's mother was not said to be deceased, but his father was. Other possible siblings for Elizabeth: John, b. 1814, Ederdacurragh; Robert, b. 1822; Saragh, b. 1822, both in Drumharriff. There are apparently four Fermanagh townlands named Drumharriff. One is in Clones Parish. Griffith's valuation, 1862, shows a Richard Scott as an occupier of land whose immediate lessor was Earl of Erne. Another, in Cleenish Parish, lists Nicholas Scott twice, one occupier of land the lessor of which is Rebecca Gamble and the other John Daly. See a later post for the Griffith's Valuation for the Drumharriff in Aghalurcher Parish. Any suggestions? Thank you for reading Suzanne Sommerville In Michigan, USA

Hi, Does anyone have any information on the Hilliard and Montgomery families from Tonystick and Enniskillen?? Any information would be most appreciated. Alison Griffith - Queensland, Australia

This is my first posting to this list. Hope it gets through. My paternal g.g.mother was named Maria GILROY before she married John Knowles CLARK in Liiverpool in 1871. Maria was born in Enniskillen (Ithink) in 1853 and died in L.pool 1923. Her father was Thomas GILROY, a bootmaker. Another GILROY family member was Alec or Alexander. Does any one have access to a trade directory for Enniskillen? Barbara

Hi everyone, This is the first time I've listed my research interests - hope someone can help! Eliza BAXTER b1848 in Brookeborough m John Mc COLLUM b 1840(not a local -maybe Scottish? - they were Methodists). Lived Coonion?/Cooneen townland (Brookeborough). Chn John b1862, Robert b1864, girl who married Robert Gormley (living Strabane Co.Tyr.in 1917) Robert married Eliza Brown 1889, dau of Forbes BROWN & Eliza STEEN of Grogey (Brookeborough). Came to Australia with Browns and John Kerry family. Thanks Barbara

Maguiresbridge is located less than 10 miles SE of Enniskillen. My grandmother learned this rhyme as a child 100 years ago: Lisnaskea for drinking tea, Maguiresbridge for brandy, Ederny is the Devil's hole, But Kesh -- it is a dandy. The town in the last line probably was interchangeable since she was from Kesh. Linda Foh Saylorsburg, PA

When I forwarded the list of Flanagan names (in argentina) to the list, I erroneously said that some were from Fermanagh. Some COULD well be, but the original source did not state this. I had it mixed up with the other mail that I forwarded, about names settling in New South Wales. Sorry. Janet

We have a James MOFFITT born at Lough Erne, 4 November 1766. He emigrated to the US in 1789, where he ended up in Washington County, PA. (This information is inscribed on his gravestone.) Any info on the Moffitt family in Co. Fermanagh would be appreciated. We haven't done any genealogical research on the Irish ancestors, so any suggestions on how to proceed with that would be welcome! Thanks in advance, Lexxa Moffitt