First, I'd like to thank those people who have contacted me re my gravestone query and I will get back to you. My computer crashed and had to go to the technicians and once I got it back I had begun to work on something which is taking a lot of time. My web site began so that I could show those who had expressed an interest in a journal which I proposed publishing what I would have in the journal. However, the whole concept of the web site has now changed. Four or five years ago, I became very interested in surnames and placenames. I am not researching my own family but it was the thought of where the names were found in a county and the fact that the spellings can be different from county to county and even when we go to the General Registrar's Office we can see the way a name was spelled a hundred years ago in one part of the country being spelled differently in another part - phonetics.....and then over time, we see the name reaching a stage where it has one spelling. You can track people through the birth, marriage and death records - follow the naem through the country - see connections between one county and another. Then, when you look at the literature - you can find names in one part of the country at one time and then in another another time - moving about.I have been working with names and sorting them since that time, using anything and everything I can get my hands on or that I transcribe. My web site has now become or is becoming somwhere that I can show you what information I have and the source I got it from. I am focusing on Graveyards, Journals, and names - surname distribution I have begun to load some names to my web site - approximately 1000 for Cavan, Carlow, Laois, Monaghan, Limerick and Kilkenny so far. I give a list of names and a year and on the page I list the references I have used to present my lists of names. in some instances I have not given the full and proper reference because I have not got it at the moment, but that will be corrected next week. It is my intention to load 1000 names and references for each county over the next while, it's not the finding of the names that is a problem for me, it is the time it takes to create each page. My pages are not necessarily perfect - but I have only just begun to learn how to create web pages. The Carlow list of surnames was the first I created, in time I will go back and change the format on that one - once I have finished every county. I hope to have that done within two weeks, after that - I will begin on placenames and then after that adding another 1000 names to each list. If you read my objectives page then that will tell you what i want to do with the web site. www.from-ireland.net Jane

from www.ufomag.com MYSTERIOUS FIREBALL CAUSES A STIR IN NORTHERN IRELAND "A full-scale emergency to search for a crashed plane was launched" on Tuesday night, February 13, 2001, off the coast of Northern Ireland. "Troops and RUC (Royal Ulster Constabulary--J.T.) joined ambulance crews and RAF helicopters after two people were reported dead in a light aircraft accident." "They rushed to the scene at a remote mountain near Kinawley," Northern Ireland, "on the Fermanagh border." "Hospital staff at Enniskillen were at emergency standby." "The emergency was called off late (Tuesday) night after four hours." "A schoolboy is believed to have reported seeing fire and heavy smoke after he said a plane hit the mountain." "St. Angelo Airport at Enniskillen said all its planes had been accounted for." "The ambulance spokesman said, 'A light aircraft was seen falling from the sky. We immediately sent two ambulances and the other emergency services were also there. We were led to believe there were two people aboard the aircraft.'" "Later the spokesman said th! ey! had used heat-heat-seeking equi pment to scan the area but had found nothing. He added, 'Well, at the moment, it would be fair to say it looks like a hoax,'" "The (supposed) crash site was just a few miles from where rally champion Bertie Fisher's helicopter went down last month," i.e. in January 2001. (See the Daily Mirror for February 15, 2001, "Plane crash emergency 'hoax.'" Many thanks to Gerry Lovell for this newspaper article.)

Spyplane ? 'but sure and begorrah sur' it came down right in the middle of Loch Erne and it was such a shame sur, to see all those little leprachauns swimming for their lives. especially with those heavy weights on their backs, those were cameras were they sur, you don't say, bejasus sur, i'll have to have a drop of the hard stuff will you be taking a drop with me' Maureen

"rodreb" <[email protected]> wrote............ >Do any of our Fermanagh residents know anything about a supposed crash of a flying object- a "top secret" blackbird spyplane or other vehicle in the Kinawley area moutains of Fermanagh? >Debra, USA > I have no info on that one, but here's a slightly older report of a UFO in Ireland. From Annals of Ulster, 749 A.D.; "Ships with their crews were seen in the air over Clonmacnoise." Here's another......... An interesting note in the DUGAN pedigree; Number 70 on this pedigree was Mogh Ruith, (Magus Rotoe) a famous Druid so named from his having made a wheel, the "Ruitha-Ramhar", by means of which he was able to ascend into the air, in presence of an astonished multitude. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. [email protected] TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

At 8:32 AM -0400 4/12/01, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 4/11/01 6:42:26 PM, [email protected] writes: > ><< Do any of our Fermanagh residents know anything about a supposed crash of >a flying object- a "top secret" blackbird spyplane or other vehicle in the >Kinawley area >> > >Maybe they're looking for stills. :-) My understanding was that the blackbirds were no longer in use ofr spying. too expensive and their work is easily done by statelites. m ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jazz is freedom. - T. Monk http://www.panix.com/~cassidy

In a message dated 4/11/01 6:42:26 PM, [email protected] writes: << Do any of our Fermanagh residents know anything about a supposed crash of a flying object- a "top secret" blackbird spyplane or other vehicle in the Kinawley area >> Maybe they're looking for stills. :-) Janet C-s

Do any of our Fermanagh residents know anything about a supposed crash of a flying object- a "top secret" blackbird spyplane or other vehicle in the Kinawley area moutains of Fermanagh? The govt. is calling it a hoax, but anytime security is tight when the govts say it's a hoax, usually it's not! Just curious what the news is from those who live there..hope you'll forgive the off topic subject, you can reply to me directly to spare the list from the replies. Thank you! [email protected] Debra, USA

To all: Dennis Ahern (of TIARA) has put up a page where people can express their feelings for John. See http://www.tiara.ie/guestbook/guestbook.html Janet C-S

re: John Maurice Broderick Sr, "SeanRuad" For those who would like to, John's family has asked that anyone who wishes to express to them what their dad meant to them to email them at [email protected] . also, here is the address, in case anyone wants to send a mass card or sympathy card to his family. 1424 Massachusetts Ave. Arlington, MA 02476 USA Janet C-S

I have just heard very sad news. John Maurice Broderick Sr., the man who put together the Ireland Townland Database, (http://www.seanruad.com) and whom many of you know as "Sean Ruad" died suddenly on Saturday April 7, at his home in Arlington, Massachusetts. He made a great contribution to Irish genealogy, and he will be greatly missed. Sadly, Janet C-S

Bonnie, A lot of us go to http://www.seanruad.com , an atlas of townlands of Ireland. Good luck, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Kirkpatrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Ballyshannon Union Stewart BDM > Does anyone know where on the internet I can find a good printable map of > Ireland or Northern Ireland? > Thanks in advance.. > Bonnie Kirkpatrick > in the Thumb of Michigan > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Info" <[email protected]> To: "william flanagan" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:54 AM Subject: Re: Question > Good afternoon, > thank you for your e-mail, the book can be ordered from our website > www.eason.ie change the search engine from title to isbn and input > 9900101301 > Any problems contact me > > Regards, Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: william flanagan <[email protected]> > To: Info <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: Question > > > > I am an amature Genealogist who tries to help people find thier family > > ancestors. I specialize in county Fermanagh. > > > > There is one particular book we all want and need. > > The Fermanagh Story by Paedar Livingston. > > On two web sites, we keep getting all kinds of false informaton as to how > to > > get a copy of this book from whom and where. > > > > Is there any light that you can shed on this books availiability, cost , > > projected reprint , ect .???? > > > > Do you have a catalog on your web site that can be accessed from USA ???? > > > > If I get a reply to any of my questions, may I post this information to > the > > Fermanagh-LRootsweb site and the [email protected] site also. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Info" <[email protected]> > > To: "Pbuddyf" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:11 AM > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > yes we are the Biggest bookstore chain in Ireland both North and South, > > any > > > thing we can help you with just contact us. > > > > > > Regards,Tammy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Pbuddyf <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:25 PM > > > Subject: Question > > > > > > > > > > Is this the address for a bookstore/maps, ect... > > > > Please reply as I am trying to find a reliable source in Ireland, both > > the > > > > South and Northern Ireland. > > > > > > > > Thank You very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello All, I ordered this book from them online about 6 months ago.....I did take a while before I received it, but they did have it. Lisa Callahan in Sunny California ----- Original Message ----- From: Bonnie Kirkpatrick To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Book store in Ireland for maps, ect. Hi Willie.. I wrote to that bookstore and they said I could orde the Fermanagh Story from them, and gave me the web site, but when I got there I couldn't see the book listed, so I called them, and talked to two diff. people in two different departments and they said they didn't have the book. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "william flanagan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: Book store in Ireland for maps, ect. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Info" <[email protected]> > To: "Pbuddyf" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:11 AM > Subject: Re: Question > > > > Good morning, > > yes we are the Biggest bookstore chain in Ireland both North and South, > any > > thing we can help you with just contact us. > > > > Regards,Tammy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Pbuddyf <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:25 PM > > Subject: Question > > > > > > > Is this the address for a bookstore/maps, ect... > > > Please reply as I am trying to find a reliable source in Ireland, both > the > > > South and Northern Ireland. > > > > > > Thank You very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Bonnie, I bought my copy of "The Fermanagh Story", by Peador Livingstone, from L.W.N. Hall Booksellers in Enniskillen. THEY Reprinted it in 1990. Bill Barber Hudson, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Kirkpatrick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Book store in Ireland for maps, ect. Hi Willie.. I wrote to that bookstore and they said I could orde the Fermanagh Story from them, and gave me the web site, but when I got there I couldn't see the book listed, so I called them, and talked to two diff. people in two different departments and they said they didn't have the book. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan

Hi Willie.. I wrote to that bookstore and they said I could orde the Fermanagh Story from them, and gave me the web site, but when I got there I couldn't see the book listed, so I called them, and talked to two diff. people in two different departments and they said they didn't have the book. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "william flanagan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: Book store in Ireland for maps, ect. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Info" <[email protected]> > To: "Pbuddyf" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:11 AM > Subject: Re: Question > > > > Good morning, > > yes we are the Biggest bookstore chain in Ireland both North and South, > any > > thing we can help you with just contact us. > > > > Regards,Tammy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Pbuddyf <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:25 PM > > Subject: Question > > > > > > > Is this the address for a bookstore/maps, ect... > > > Please reply as I am trying to find a reliable source in Ireland, both > the > > > South and Northern Ireland. > > > > > > Thank You very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

>From a magazine, "Irish Roots," 1999, No 4, page 24.: The Royal Irish Constabulary A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men,1816 to 1922. By Jim Herlihy Published by Four Courts Press Ltd. Fumbally Lane Dublin 8. Ireland 1999 price was 45 pounds Irish, for Hardback of 550 pages. For the observant ones. I slipped in an earlier message of an address of a Bookstore in Ireland. Ask if this has come out in paperback. It will cost less to buy and to ship. Tell them Bud sent you. :)-

----- Original Message ----- From: "Info" <[email protected]> To: "Pbuddyf" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Question > Good morning, > yes we are the Biggest bookstore chain in Ireland both North and South, any > thing we can help you with just contact us. > > Regards,Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pbuddyf <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:25 PM > Subject: Question > > > > Is this the address for a bookstore/maps, ect... > > Please reply as I am trying to find a reliable source in Ireland, both the > > South and Northern Ireland. > > > > Thank You very much. > > > > > >

hi Bud and the rest of the list, I too use the Family tree maker but I would like to add this word of caution about their Griffith Valuation CD. I have photocopies of the original for one of my ancestors who had a house in one townland and 2 pastures rented in adjacent townlands. Problem - only two of these entries are on the FTM CD! They completely left out one of his entries. I tired different spellings for his name incase it had been entered wrongly but no luck. I have since learned of another person in my local Family history centre who has had the same problem. I guess when it comes to a CD that has been copied from another source it is wise to check the original source. The same is of course true for any other records that have been transcribed - mistakes do happen. Havign said all that I'm all for as much information online as possible as it isn't that easy getting to places all the time. All for now HElen

Hi List, Could someone post again the website address for Jane Lyons? Thanks Sally

Does anyone know where on the internet I can find a good printable map of Ireland or Northern Ireland? Thanks in advance.. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan