Maureen.. As you have probably have heard from many.. I would be more than happy to pay for whatever expenses etc. to get a copy of your map.. Also.. I just read your post on the graveyard at Donagh just north of Lisnaskea.. My husbands realatives, the KIKRPATRICK's, came from that area, from what I can figure.. One relative (93) is still living in Lisnaskea, in fact. I have been trying to get some info from her without much luck. Part of our family(my hubby;s direct ancestors) left there in 1847 and emigrated to Canada. I have found a few tiny clues(the grgrgrgrandparents were married in Aghavea in 1813). Also, this cousin who is 93 writes that her grandfather and father were both born in Drumhaw, but that is about all I know.. I think I have figured out the connection between this cousin and the ones who came to Canada, but of course not positive yet. She does not remember, and when you try to run a theory by her, she goes off in another direction without really answering you. Do you by any chance know of any churches in that area that have e-mail? or is there no such thing as a church with e-mail contac! t?? Anyone?? Dying for one more clue... Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: Fermanagh Townlands > I have certainly created some interest with my map. Well at the 'oh so > endearing' request from Mr Traynor I will one way or another get it sorted so > that everyone can view it even if I have to have it re-made from the > original, I know from my own experience how valuable it will be to many of > you, who unlike me were not born and bred in Fermanagh. I intend to with the > offered valuable assistance of Bud Flanagan > combine it with a list from Griffiths Valuation 1862 of the Families living > in the different townlands.I have had a rough count of the townlands on there > and there are about 100 some of them very small but all very legible. Goa is > the smallest and Eshnadarragh and Corraleek the largest. Just as a taster to > any BEGGANS reading this , The FAMILY home is actually pinpointed in the > Eshnadarragh townland. It is the only one on the whole of the map so perhaps > whoever made the map was one of my ancesters. > > Will be in touch > > Maureen > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

The only inscriptions I have are the ones I mentioned, for the rest all I have is the number of the headstone in the graveyard. ie. A1 B2 etc. On the request on McBryan that stone reads Erected by PATRICK BEGGAN of Eshnadarragh in memory of his wife MARGERY BEGGAN alias McBRYAN who departed this life 3rd February 1811 aged 62 years. Also Thomas Beggan of Coolnashillagh who dept. this life on 6th January 1893 aged 84 years. Maureen

I have certainly created some interest with my map. Well at the 'oh so endearing' request from Mr Traynor I will one way or another get it sorted so that everyone can view it even if I have to have it re-made from the original, I know from my own experience how valuable it will be to many of you, who unlike me were not born and bred in Fermanagh. I intend to with the offered valuable assistance of Bud Flanagan combine it with a list from Griffiths Valuation 1862 of the Families living in the different townlands.I have had a rough count of the townlands on there and there are about 100 some of them very small but all very legible. Goa is the smallest and Eshnadarragh and Corraleek the largest. Just as a taster to any BEGGANS reading this , The FAMILY home is actually pinpointed in the Eshnadarragh townland. It is the only one on the whole of the map so perhaps whoever made the map was one of my ancesters. Will be in touch Maureen

I know I would pay for a copy! Ellen >From: Pat Traynor <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Map of Fermanagh and its townlands >Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 08:44:12 -0700 > > [email protected] wrote............ > >Can anyone help, I have an old map[still legible] of the Fermanagh >Townlands >all marked out, I have tried to send it to the site by e-mail but it came >back as being too large. Is there any other way I can get on the site as I >think it would be very useful for those who have never visited Fermanagh, >to >see how small the place really is and how many tiny townlands there are. >Maureen > >Maureen darlin'.... PLEASE !!! Go to a good copy place and run >off several copies of the map. >If the townlands come out legible, then there are dozens of us >that would be happy to send you a few dollars for your trouble, >for a snail-mail copy. > >If you send it to a Web page, most of us could not make a good >copy of it from there. It would probably be too large a graphic >file for a Webpage unless it was split up into areas, and it >would take a long time to load. >The quality might also be compromised in the scanning too. > >Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. [email protected] >TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/ > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Good morning, listers, Maureen, I concur with Pat Traynor's suggestion (below) and would be happy to pay for a photocopy of your map (if the copies are legible!) plus cost of mailing and your time. Please consider his idea. Cheers! Betty (in sunny, coastal Delta, BC) Subject: RE: Map of Fermanagh and its townlands > Maureen darlin'.... PLEASE !!! Go to a good copy place and run > off several copies of the map. > If the townlands come out legible, then there are dozens of us > that would be happy to send you a few dollars for your trouble, > for a snail-mail copy. >

William was the son of a prosperous yarn merchant Edward Bredin and his wife Ann Hall and was ordained in 1840. He moved with his wife and family to the newly created parish [created out of Galoon Parish in 1840] and the new church was consecrated in 4th July 1843, where he started his own census recorded in his visiting books. These Books are deposited with PRONI under the reference number D2098. His records show the Head of House, ages and people living there and it can only be assumed he started his books as a prelude to the forthcoming 1850/51 which of course was patchy because of the Famine.The following is an extract from that census for the COLLNASHILLAGH PROTESTANTS John Forster 54 Bessy 24 Catherine sister 40 Eliza sister 30 Robert Forster 38 Alice 40 John 15 William 13 Robert 10 Joseph 3 Bessy 7 George Downey 56 Mary Ann 38 Andrew 15 William 11 Prudence 16 Eliza Jane 12 Maria 8 Mary Jane 2 CATHOLICS Thomas Beggan 45 Catherine 36 Thomas 10 John McDonnell 55 Anne 50 John 24 Pat 21 Ellen 21 Anne 16 The following catholics were not included in the full census Owen Beggan Bernard Tierney Thomas Carroll Ann Cassidy Pat Lenehan Mary McNeely Margaret McDowell John Keon P Mc Corry All Catholics and if anyone is interested I have theri details from the census mAUREEN

This graveyard is situated at Donagh, approx 1/2 mile north of the Lisnaskea/Newtownbutler road. The ruins were a medievel chapel in the parish of Drummully. There are 220 stones the oldest of which 1700 is in latin.Here are some of the names BEGGAN FITZPATRICK GOODWIN BIGAN FODAHAN GUDDEN BIGGAN GILLEES GUN BOYLE GILROY GUNN BRADY GLEASON HALPIN BREEN CONNELY HANDLENDEN BRESLIN COREKEN BULLFINCH CORGAN BURNS COSGRA CADDEN DONAN CAREY DONEGAN CASSIDY DUNNGAN CLARKE DONOCHO COLLINS DORCY COLLON FAUX Of the headstone inscriptions I actually have there are the names McBRYAN. alias MARGERY BEGGAN 1811.JAMES CLARKE 1807 JOHN MCDONNEL1837 PATRICK COLLINS 1886 PATRICK CAREY ARTINAGH 1938 MARTIN MOHAN 1733 HUGH & TERENCE SKALLAN JAMES WALLACE PATRICK McMURRAY 1726 CHARLES MCMURRAY 1744 james scollan 1877 I also have a few of the BEGGANS/BIGANS/ All these headstones are in Section E in the graveyard. If anyone wishes to contact me for more details of the headstones I will be happy to share what I have got Maureen

[email protected] wrote............ Can anyone help, I have an old map[still legible] of the Fermanagh Townlands all marked out, I have tried to send it to the site by e-mail but it came back as being too large. Is there any other way I can get on the site as I think it would be very useful for those who have never visited Fermanagh, to see how small the place really is and how many tiny townlands there are. Maureen Maureen darlin'.... PLEASE !!! Go to a good copy place and run off several copies of the map. If the townlands come out legible, then there are dozens of us that would be happy to send you a few dollars for your trouble, for a snail-mail copy. If you send it to a Web page, most of us could not make a good copy of it from there. It would probably be too large a graphic file for a Webpage unless it was split up into areas, and it would take a long time to load. The quality might also be compromised in the scanning too. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. [email protected] TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

I would really appreciate it if anyone who is familiar with the procedure involved in obtaining copies of books or pages from journals through interlibrary loan in the States, Canada, Australia or anywhere else in the world would please tell me how it is done in other places. There are too many people asking me how they can obtain copies of the sources I am listing on the From Ireland web site http://www.from-ireland.net I've been attached to one University or another, and for me it is a simple case of going in and asking for a form, which I fill out with the details and then my university makes a request of other libraries with which they have an inter-library loan agreement and I get a copy of the paper at whatever cost per page if it is available - or I just walk in to the National Library and fill out a similar form and pay them £1 per page. Because it's something I've done so regulary and so simply I tend to think that it will be just as simple for others around the world. I tend not to think in terms of ordinary libraries. I'd like to put a note at the top of each of my surname pages telling people how to do this if it's different in other parts of the world. When I do a search on the LDS Family Library catalogue I get the below result for Irish Periodicals. Some I recognise, some I don't. I was looking for 'The Irish Ancestor' and 'The Irish Genealogist'. I know that some of what is listed below refers to on-line newsletter or societies which are on-line, but for the most part I've never heard of the rest!! I'm thinking that maybe the Irish Genealogical Research Society newsletter referred to here is what I know as 'The Irish Genealogist' which is a journal published by the Irish Genealogical Research Society in London. There is an Irish branch in Dublin, but then, I've never heard that the Irish branch actually publishes a newsletter. It is things like this which I have mentioned in the past, something being called one thing here in Ireland and another name by the Latter day Saints which can cause real confusion when two people are talking about something and know it by those different names. In order for me to be able to direct people to a source, I need to know the other name and as I don't use the LDS libraries, I can only make matters worse if I don't find out these differences. I also have read that not all of what the LDS libraries is on the on-line catalogue and what I would like to know is if they have copies of any of our Journals, such as Breifne, Clogher Record, Seanchas Ardmhaca, any of the Archaeological and Historical Journals - such as Louth, Galway, Cork, Kilkenny, Kerry, Waterford to name but a few. Plus the good old Irish Genealogist and the Irish Ancestor. They do seem to have Annelecta Hibernica........... ------------------------------------------------------------ The All-Ireland heritage : a journal of genealogical and historical research Analecta Hibernica : including the reports of the Irish Manuscripts Commission Irish Manuscripts Commission The Celtic knot : a journal of Irish family history research Directory of Irish family history research Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild Familia : Ulster genealogical review Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild Family links, past and present : magazine of the Irish Genealogical Association Irish Genealogical Association (Belfast) Gaelic gleanings Inside Ireland The Irish ancestor Ffolliott, Rosemary Irish ancestors matters Irish Genealogical Project The Irish at home and abroad : a newsletter of Irish genealogy and heritage Irish family history : Irish genealogical newsletter Irish Family History Society (Newton, Massachusetts) Irish family links Irish Genealogical Association (Belfast) Irish genealogical helper Irish Genealogical Research Society (Ireland Branch) newsletter Irish Genealogical Research Society (Ireland Branch) Irish Genealogical Research Society newsletter Irish Genealogical Research Society Irish genealogy digest Champ, Minnie Irish heritage links Irish Heritage Association Irish queries Penna-Oakes, Shirley Elizabeth, 1951- Irish roots Numbers 1-20 of 31 titles related to this topic [View next set of matching titles] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- There is nothing else when I click on the next set of matching titles and clicking on The Irish Ancestor only leads me back to the top of the page. Maybe the links were having some hicoughs when I was checking this out!! Thanks, Jane

Hi Maureen If you'd like to send a scan of the map to me I'll see if I can publish it on the Fermanagh Gold site, if you would like it to be placed there. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: Map of Fermanagh and its townlands > Hi, > > Can anyone help, I have an old map[still legible] of the Fermanagh Townlands > all marked out, I have tried to send it to the site by e-mail but it came > back as being too large. Is there any other way I can get on the site as I > think it would be very useful for those who have never visited Fermanagh, to > see how small the place really is and how many tiny townlands there are. > > > Maureen > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

I'd love to have a copy of it. I finally found a good map of Ireland at a bookstore, but to have a copy of this map showing the townlands would be fantastic. Perhaps the trouble is that the List doesn't accept attachments. Perhaps you could try to e-mail it to me directly. If that doesn't work perhaps you would be kind enough to print a copy and mail it to me by snail mail -- I would be happy to reimburse you for your expenses. Carol

Hi, Can anyone help, I have an old map[still legible] of the Fermanagh Townlands all marked out, I have tried to send it to the site by e-mail but it came back as being too large. Is there any other way I can get on the site as I think it would be very useful for those who have never visited Fermanagh, to see how small the place really is and how many tiny townlands there are. Maureen

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Janet, First of all Newtownbutler comes under CLONES parish and I am also trying to find the quickest way to get their records. The Catholic church is the Sacred Heart Clones. You can write to The Registrar in Dublin [address on PRONI but they take ages. However the good news is that if you know the couple concerned in a marriage and a reasonable idea of the year they will provide. It is quite possible that all the children were not registered as in the 1850's Catholics were not recognised in any civil list and indeed many catholic families were afraid to declare their religion. However I would be quite surprised if the MAGUIRES did not have their children baptised. Have you got the townland in Newtownbutler. I have had a look at Griffiths and there are surprisingly few Maguires at that time but I have found a Maguire Marriage from some records kept in Enniskillen Town Hall. Susan Maguire amrried John Beggan on the 9th November 1895 at Newtownbutler Parish Church.You also mentioned Maguiresbridge to me and I have a ANNE McDonald who married Michael Beggan at Brookeborough RC Chapel on 14th January 1894. Brookeboroug is very close to Maguiresbridge. Unfortunately, I have not got the marriage certifcates, but if you think they may match I will get them to add to my collection of Beggan marriages. I am awaiting a list of the Maguire Baptisms from Rosslea and then I will attack the marriages to find my own line of Maguires. Maureen

Hi Richard I am researching a Bessie Maguire who married a Hugh McDonald probably in the late 1850's or early 1860's. Their children were born in Newtown Butler. Do you have any information on this Maguire that you could share? Janet Morgan

Can anyone tell me the easiest way to get Birth, marriage etc. records from Clones. Perhaps I should have said the quickest and easiest. I have exhausted the Rosslea records and I now need the records for Newtownbutler and Aghadrumsee. Maureen

Hello List I have discovered a poem which describes how Donal MacShan captured the English garrison at Liscallaghan (near Fivemiletown)in the uprising which occurred on 23 August 1641 I believe my distant ancestors came from Liscallaghan can anyone suggest wher I might find some information about what happened on 23 Aug. 1641 and what subsequently occurred when the uprising was defeated Any suggestions most gratefully received Patrick Callaghan Sydney Australia

Maureen As far as I know: David ARMSTRONG married Mary MAGUIRE on 29th January 1908 Robert ARMSTRONG married Maggie MAGUIRE on 22nd January 1897 Thomas MAGUIRE married Margaret ARMSTRONG on 14th September 1910 Does that help? cheers Richard > There is also I believe an ARMSTRONG marriage > somewhere in this familly of Maguires. > > Maureen > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated.

Hello all, Looking for anyone with information on the following: Sarah A DUFFY b. 18 Jul 1849 d. 1894 Sydney Australia and her parents in particular : Henry W DUFFY Ann Unknown surname. Any information regarding the marriage (1840s?), or birth.death of the parents, or Sarah's siblings would be much appreciated. Thankyou Kirsten

I am trying to trace the family and siblings of : BERNARD MAGUIRE my gg grandfather. On the marriage certificate of My g.grandmother CATHERINE MAGUIRE to THOMAS BEGGAN in 1867 it gives Catherine's residence as CORNAFELLA Co Fermanagh. but she is also registered as a housemaid so I am not sure. I know that Catherine's sister married a CASSIDY and that she had a brother JOHN[CAPTAIN] who married a GALLAGHER. It is reputed by the Beggan family that Catherine was a Character and there is a lot of folklore about her. There is also I believe an ARMSTRONG marriage somewhere in this familly of Maguires. Maureen