Hi Everybody; I just spent the day at the Family History Library in Mesa, Az. No Luck in a way, I stand to be corrected on some of my info on Joseph Fay; I found him in Penn. in the 1830 census but then from there I lost him until I went to the Indianna 1840 census but I still didn't find info on his family, Thanks to you Jim I found the Geneology book you recommended at the Deseret Book Store in Mesa and have been brousing thru it since I got home, I think it is great and hope to use some of its suggestions in my research. Goodnight and Good luck in hunting. Margaret Pincock