Mary, I have received a number of emails tonight privately about your post, and the criticism you leveled publicly on this list at Linda Hogans and Linda Kaufman. Linda Hogans has also unsubscribed because she doesn't feel its worth it to post and put up with the abuse. Would you please reconsider your position. Bob ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mary J. (Fay) Nelson" <mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net> To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FAY] Censoring Messages and Birth Dates Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:33:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [63.92.80.39] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB251BAD0041D82197E83F5C502740040; Thu Jun 29 15:41:49 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5TMfIr17687;Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:41:18 -0700 >From FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Thu Jun 29 15:44:34 2000 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:41:18 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 29 15:41:17 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000629174712.00a8bf00@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: mary.bob.nelson@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Old-To: "FAY-D-Digest, run by Robert Wm. Fay" <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1EA_W.A.JUE.OC9W5@lists3.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: FAY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/448 X-Loop: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Dear Folks, As an active genealogist who lives on the East Coast, I want to thank Ms. Linda Hogan for her comments on the religion at the end of her message.["FAY] Obit for George Fay", vol. 00; #60:x-message #3; posted June 22, 2000]. This kind of editorial comment, and it was clearly given as such, is of a great deal of help to me in trying to figure out your Western FAY Families. Insights, such as Ms. Hogan's, are invaluable to the professional genealogist. In this short note, we are alerted to the fact that one branch of the John Fay Sr.1 (OPF #1) family has become Roman Catholic in a given area. Consider the fact that about 1/3 of the FAY's in the United States today trace their lines from the Irish FAY/FAHEY/FAYHE (probably Roman Catholic) immigrants, and you will get some idea of how invaluable this short sentence was to me. It also alerts us to the fact that a number of the records for this family will be found in the Roman Catholic Parish and Diocese Archives. It also alerts us to looking at similar documents in the Lutheran Church Archives. [Birth records, baptismal certificates, Sunday School Records; confirmation certificates, marriage registers, funeral records, church offices held by members of the family, etc.] Of the three siblings of George Fay, I think that two can probably be identified as Albert Jenner/"Genner" (a phonetic transcription by the funeral home) and Mrs.Peral Louys, who may be Cora Anna Pearl (Fay) Louys/Louis. It is just possible that Faith (Fay) D'Annuncio was born after 1898 and is thus not numbered in the family of Daniel Fay 8 (OPF # 830-3-6) I am awaiting a confirmation of the birth dates and names of Daniel FAY's family based on the Census from 1870 to 1920. If the family of Jonathan Fay 6 (830) is not listed in any Census, then the Church records from two denominations will become invaluable to hook up Ms. Hogan and Ms Anderson's family to the FAY tree trunk. I think that it is very important to receive the informations in posts to the FAY-D list without telling folks to delete a given part of a message. You are stepping on their freedom of expression. Information which you may find somewhat offensive, may not be seen that way by the sender or by other genealogists. As far as giving dates for living persons is concerned, the dates on Obituaries will reveal who was alive at the time the obituary was written. I DO NOT want to see the dates of Obituaries left off of postings. If such dates are left off of postings, the posting becomes next to useless to a genealogist. I would caution folks to be sure to check with older relatives to see if they mind having their birth dates posted. I would point out to all of you that birth dates from Census material before 1920 is already available as that (1920) Census is open now. I also note that nothing besides Ms. Viola Fay's birth date was given. If she married, then her data would be fairly well protected. My personal policy for the FAY FAMILY DATA BASE is to close the "living" FAY Data files to non immediate family members, unless instructed to open them by the informant. I think that policies concerning information to be submitted, ought to be posted regularly, perhaps on a monthly or every two months basis, and new subscribers should receive a copy of such policy when they are entered into the list of participants. I do not like "after the fact" policy changes. 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