----Original Message Follows---- Thanks for you assistance. I do know most of the lineage, however, my current project is to further document the line in preparation for submitting a supplemental application to DAR. The "weak" generation, in terms of documentation, seems to be that of Catherine Fay and Bradley Hartshorn and their issue. Rolene Kiesling, P.O. Box 215, Groveland, CA 95321-0215 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Morning, What is the lists rules regarding file attachments? I can just scan the necessary pages and attach it. I am on some lists where it is permitted, and some where it is not. BTW, To everyone who sent us info on Benejah, we thank you. We plan on checking the cemetery mentioned in the source we cited, seeing as we live in Cleveland, Oh, and it's only a short drive there. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: [FAY] USA, Ohio, Benejah Fay, b.7/28/1773 > Hi Jim, :) > > This should provide some guidance on your search. But let me say that this > OPF reference is a good example of both the strengths and weaknesses of the > OPF genealogy that Mary (Fay) Nelson recently highlighted. OPF only shows 3 > children, your reference shows 13. Such are the limitations that existed at > the time he wrote his book. > > If you have further information on the descendants of Benejah Fay it would > be helpful to forward it to this list in response. It may help someone > immediately, but more importantly it is maintained in a searchable > electronic archives for easy retrieval by any researcher with Internet > access in a week, a month or a year or whenever the need arises. That will > prevent a great deal of redundant research by any who may be interested in > him. > > There is a great deal of information in this reference beyond what I'm > reproducing here. The reference is Orlin P Fays Genealogy of John Fay of > Marlborough. 1898. > > Pages 175, 182, 183, 205 > > "BENAJAH, b. Sturbridge, July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma township, Ohio, m. > Lewis Co, NY Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs > Rhoda Edwards, wid of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859 4 > children." > > Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2, John 1 > > Children listed are Benejah Jr, Mabel and Jeremiah with various other > information. That's 3. > > There is also a biography, as follows: > > "Ebenezer Fay No 26 had a son Benejah who was born in Sturbridge in 1773. > Cyrus Fay writes " I had an Uncle Benejah who went to Ohio." Hudson also > locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the > old cemetary in Cleveland Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Rhodes, wife > of Benejah Fay, b. Mar 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859." > > In the "History of Cuyahoga County" Ohio, page 338 the author speaks of > Benejah Fay and his wife whose name was Ruth Wilcox and that he was born in > 1777 in Mass. and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co, NY. In 1816, they came > to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio and settled in Parma Township where they lived until > there death. She died Sept 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were > the parents of 3 children Mabel, Jeremiah W., and Ruth and again that Eli > (or Ely) was the son of Benejah Jr who was born in "York State" in 1806 that > he was 10 years old when he, with his father and family came to Cuyahoga Co, > Ohio where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was > married to Lois Hodgman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma > where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where > they resided until their death. He dying with the cholera in 1849 and she > lived until November 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter, > Eli being the oldest child. > > It would seem that Benejah Fay Sen. had 4 children, 3 by wife Ruth (and if > only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have > been written to his descendants in Parma and elsewhere with the hope that a > satisfactory solution of this case will yeat be secured." > > There is also a great deal of other information on this family beyond what > can be reproduced here. > > We'll wait to hear the "rest of the story"!. > > Bob :) > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Good morning, > > I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in > Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth > Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, > Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. > According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, > he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first > settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: > > Sophie born 5/17/1800 > Asa born 10/23/1801 > Amanda born 11/20/1802 > Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 > Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 > Mary born 7/31/1808 > Harriet born 4/27/1810 > Huldah born 11/19/1811 > Watson born 9/26/1813 > Lyman born 10/6/1815 > these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. > Mabel born 1/26/1820 > Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 > These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child > born in Parma.. > > In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been > trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above > has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > LMA > Jim Shreve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> > To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM > Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > > > > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > > tree. > > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in > Camden, > > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in > Princeton, > > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > > I'll be happy to share information with my previously > unknown > > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on > any > > of these folks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. 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----Original Message Follows---- Morning, What is the lists rules regarding file attachments? I can just scan the necessary pages and attach it. I am on some lists where it is permitted, and some where it is not. BTW, To everyone who sent us info on Benejah, we thank you. We plan on checking the cemetery mentioned in the source we cited, seeing as we live in Cleveland, Oh, and it's only a short drive there. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: [FAY] USA, Ohio, Benejah Fay, b.7/28/1773 > Hi Jim, :) > > This should provide some guidance on your search. But let me say that this > OPF reference is a good example of both the strengths and weaknesses of the > OPF genealogy that Mary (Fay) Nelson recently highlighted. OPF only shows 3 > children, your reference shows 13. Such are the limitations that existed at > the time he wrote his book. > > If you have further information on the descendants of Benejah Fay it would > be helpful to forward it to this list in response. It may help someone > immediately, but more importantly it is maintained in a searchable > electronic archives for easy retrieval by any researcher with Internet > access in a week, a month or a year or whenever the need arises. That will > prevent a great deal of redundant research by any who may be interested in > him. > > There is a great deal of information in this reference beyond what I'm > reproducing here. The reference is Orlin P Fays Genealogy of John Fay of > Marlborough. 1898. > > Pages 175, 182, 183, 205 > > "BENAJAH, b. Sturbridge, July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma township, Ohio, m. > Lewis Co, NY Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs > Rhoda Edwards, wid of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859 4 > children." > > Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2, John 1 > > Children listed are Benejah Jr, Mabel and Jeremiah with various other > information. That's 3. > > There is also a biography, as follows: > > "Ebenezer Fay No 26 had a son Benejah who was born in Sturbridge in 1773. > Cyrus Fay writes " I had an Uncle Benejah who went to Ohio." Hudson also > locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the > old cemetary in Cleveland Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Rhodes, wife > of Benejah Fay, b. Mar 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859." > > In the "History of Cuyahoga County" Ohio, page 338 the author speaks of > Benejah Fay and his wife whose name was Ruth Wilcox and that he was born in > 1777 in Mass. and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co, NY. In 1816, they came > to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio and settled in Parma Township where they lived until > there death. She died Sept 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were > the parents of 3 children Mabel, Jeremiah W., and Ruth and again that Eli > (or Ely) was the son of Benejah Jr who was born in "York State" in 1806 that > he was 10 years old when he, with his father and family came to Cuyahoga Co, > Ohio where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was > married to Lois Hodgman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma > where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where > they resided until their death. He dying with the cholera in 1849 and she > lived until November 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter, > Eli being the oldest child. > > It would seem that Benejah Fay Sen. had 4 children, 3 by wife Ruth (and if > only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have > been written to his descendants in Parma and elsewhere with the hope that a > satisfactory solution of this case will yeat be secured." > > There is also a great deal of other information on this family beyond what > can be reproduced here. > > We'll wait to hear the "rest of the story"!. > > Bob :) > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Good morning, > > I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in > Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth > Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, > Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. > According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, > he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first > settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: > > Sophie born 5/17/1800 > Asa born 10/23/1801 > Amanda born 11/20/1802 > Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 > Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 > Mary born 7/31/1808 > Harriet born 4/27/1810 > Huldah born 11/19/1811 > Watson born 9/26/1813 > Lyman born 10/6/1815 > these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. > Mabel born 1/26/1820 > Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 > These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child > born in Parma.. > > In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been > trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above > has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > LMA > Jim Shreve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> > To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM > Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > > > > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > > tree. > > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in > Camden, > > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in > Princeton, > > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > > I'll be happy to share information with my previously > unknown > > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on > any > > of these folks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. 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Hi Jim, I'm glad you brought this subject up, as there are very strict rules for technological reasons. Attachments will NOT pass through the server at rootsweb, and will be "stripped" off of the email. This may result in the listing of a blank page! The downside of this is that attachments must be distributed directly between the individuals, as you probably realize. The upside of this is that, as mail lists make attractive targets for individuals seeking to spread viruses, and that since many viruses are carried on an attachment, there is some measure of protection for subscribers because the attachment is stripped off. In the case of this and some other lists, all postings stop at the list administrator briefly before going to the list for general circulation. This filters out those emails are spam or otherwise offensive. The second upside of the no attachment limitation is that scarce high speed Internet accessable computer resources are conserved, instead of being utilized for the distribution of attachments. This will result in the list receiving access to a web server and unlimited memory space for the storage and distribution of relevant documents in the near future. I am hopeful that there will be an announcement related to one aspect of that in the next week or so. In a somewhat related issue, I recently have encountered a couple of emails, which had forged subscribers addresses shown, so now the list doesn't show email addresses anymore either. If you would like to give out your email address, please include it on the posting. ----Original Message Follows---- Morning, What is the lists rules regarding file attachments? I can just scan the necessary pages and attach it. I am on some lists where it is permitted, and some where it is not. BTW, To everyone who sent us info on Benejah, we thank you. We plan on checking the cemetery mentioned in the source we cited, seeing as we live in Cleveland, Oh, and it's only a short drive there. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: [FAY] USA, Ohio, Benejah Fay, b.7/28/1773 > Hi Jim, :) > > This should provide some guidance on your search. But let me say that this > OPF reference is a good example of both the strengths and weaknesses of the > OPF genealogy that Mary (Fay) Nelson recently highlighted. OPF only shows 3 > children, your reference shows 13. Such are the limitations that existed at > the time he wrote his book. > > If you have further information on the descendants of Benejah Fay it would > be helpful to forward it to this list in response. It may help someone > immediately, but more importantly it is maintained in a searchable > electronic archives for easy retrieval by any researcher with Internet > access in a week, a month or a year or whenever the need arises. That will > prevent a great deal of redundant research by any who may be interested in > him. > > There is a great deal of information in this reference beyond what I'm > reproducing here. The reference is Orlin P Fays Genealogy of John Fay of > Marlborough. 1898. > > Pages 175, 182, 183, 205 > > "BENAJAH, b. Sturbridge, July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma township, Ohio, m. > Lewis Co, NY Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs > Rhoda Edwards, wid of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859 4 > children." > > Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2, John 1 > > Children listed are Benejah Jr, Mabel and Jeremiah with various other > information. That's 3. > > There is also a biography, as follows: > > "Ebenezer Fay No 26 had a son Benejah who was born in Sturbridge in 1773. > Cyrus Fay writes " I had an Uncle Benejah who went to Ohio." Hudson also > locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the > old cemetary in Cleveland Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Rhodes, wife > of Benejah Fay, b. Mar 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859." > > In the "History of Cuyahoga County" Ohio, page 338 the author speaks of > Benejah Fay and his wife whose name was Ruth Wilcox and that he was born in > 1777 in Mass. and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co, NY. In 1816, they came > to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio and settled in Parma Township where they lived until > there death. She died Sept 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were > the parents of 3 children Mabel, Jeremiah W., and Ruth and again that Eli > (or Ely) was the son of Benejah Jr who was born in "York State" in 1806 that > he was 10 years old when he, with his father and family came to Cuyahoga Co, > Ohio where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was > married to Lois Hodgman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma > where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where > they resided until their death. He dying with the cholera in 1849 and she > lived until November 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter, > Eli being the oldest child. > > It would seem that Benejah Fay Sen. had 4 children, 3 by wife Ruth (and if > only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have > been written to his descendants in Parma and elsewhere with the hope that a > satisfactory solution of this case will yeat be secured." > > There is also a great deal of other information on this family beyond what > can be reproduced here. > > We'll wait to hear the "rest of the story"!. > > Bob :) > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Good morning, > > I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in > Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth > Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, > Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. > According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, > he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first > settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: > > Sophie born 5/17/1800 > Asa born 10/23/1801 > Amanda born 11/20/1802 > Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 > Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 > Mary born 7/31/1808 > Harriet born 4/27/1810 > Huldah born 11/19/1811 > Watson born 9/26/1813 > Lyman born 10/6/1815 > these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. > Mabel born 1/26/1820 > Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 > These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child > born in Parma.. > > In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been > trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above > has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > LMA > Jim Shreve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> > To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM > Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > > > > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > > tree. > > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in > Camden, > > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in > Princeton, > > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > > I'll be happy to share information with my previously > unknown > > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on > any > > of these folks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. 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There is a reference to Vicenia Fay the daughter of William 5, Elijah 4, Ebenezer 3, Samual 2, and John 1 on page 191 of the OPF reference so often cited recently. It appears William is of New York. Bob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- William and Chloe Fay as children arrived with their father from England in 1790. As the mother had apparently died, perhaps on the voyage, the children were both placed with the Shakers at South Lee, Mass. Chloe stayed with the Shaker community until her death. Two letters that she wrote to her brother, in 1818 and 1845, survive. Upon becoming 18, William "went to the world", marrying and producing four daughters, Lozina, Dorseline, Rosina, and Vicenna. Vicenna married William Albee. I would like to connect to the rest of the family. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Dear Rolene, The information which Bob gave you in Fay-D Digest V00 #3 Failed to include the OPT number. Lucretia (Howe Fay) would be [OPF # 25-W1]. Elizabeth (Hudson) Fay would be [OPF # 25-W2] Caty Fay 5 would be [OPF # 25-1] Lydia (Fay) Wood 5 would be [OPF # 25-2] Lucretia (Fay) Felton 5 would be [OPF # 25-3] Alonzo Felton 6 would be [OPF # 25-3-1] Harriet (Felton ) Mason 6 would be [OPF # 25-3-2] Charlotte (Felton) Cook would be [OPF # 25-3-3] Elizabeth Fay 5 would be [OPF # 25-4] Levi Fay 5 would be OPF # 25-5] Sarah Fay 5 would be [OPF # 25-6] Caty Fay 5 would be [OPF # 25-7] Please send your snail mail address to me directly and I will send out hard copies of your lineage entries to you. Sincerely Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Dear Cousins and Fellow Researchers, When dealing with the descendants of John Fay of Marlboro (1648-1690) and his two wives, and their descendants, I would like to suggest that we try to use the Orlin P. Fay numbering system. Even when one has the Orlin P. Fay book's index, all of the John Fay's or William Fay's without middle names are lumped together. We are talking about more than 40 John Fay's and about 45 or more William Fay's, not to mention many other given names which were used again and again. I generally use the given name and [OPF #] as a unit in my files. I also use a generational number starting with John Fay Sr of Marlboro, MA. The entries for the first two generations would be John Fay SR/1 [OPF # 1] or John [OPF # 1] Fay Sr./1 Mary (Brigham) Fay [OPF # 1-W1] or Mary [OPF # 1-W1] BRIGHAM Susanna (Shattuck) Morse-Fay-Brigham or Susanna [OPF # 1-W2] SHATTUCK John Fay Jr/2 [OPF # 2] or John [OPF # 2} Fay Jr./2 David Fay 2a [OPF # 1-2] or David [OPF # 1-2] Fay [died age 5 yrs no children] Samuel Fay Sr. 2 [OPF # 4] or Samuel [OPF # 4] Fay Sr./2 Mary (Fay) Brigham [OPF # 5] or Mary [OPF # 5] FAY 2 David Fay 2b [OPF # 6] or David [OPF # 6] Fay 2 Gershom Fay Sr /2 [OPF # 7]or Gershom [OPF # 7] Fay 2 Ruth (Fay) Ward [OPF # 1-7] or Ruth [OPF # 1-7] FAY 2 Deleverance (Fay) Shattuck 2 [OPF # 1-8] or Deliverance [OPF # 1-8] FAY 2 Orlin P. Fay is the earliest multiple generation Fay Genealogy. Even though he occasionally assigns the same number to two individuals, I have not discovered that he assigned the same number to two people with the same given name. However, by using these long established numbers, it is possible to cut down on confusion about which John, David or William Fay, etc. one is researching. The generational number also helps to locate the person in this large (10-000-15,000) member family tree. I use these numbers when I give information on the list. I will be glad to help you figure out your OPF #'s for your line. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Dear Jim Shreve, You are in luck as Benajah Fay 4 [OPF # 95} is in Orlin P. Fay's book, pages 182-183. However, only 3 of his children were listed, who may be the only ones who attained adulthood. (My guess.) The entry reads: (95) Sk BENAJAH [Fay 4], b. Sturbridge [MA] July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma Township, Ohio, m. in Lewis Co., N.Y. Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept. 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs. Rhoda Edwards, wid.[ow] of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798, d. Mar. 29, 1859. 4 chil. 1. BENAJAH [Fay] JR. [5], b. 1806 in "York State," d. Parma, T.[ownship], O.[hio] 1849 of cholera. He was 10 yrs old when he with his father went to Ohio./page 182 (with the family) to Cuyahoga Co. His youth was spent in P.[arma] T.[ownship] where he was m. to Miss Lois Hodgeman, b. 1808. He first settled in P.[arma] agerwards rem.[oved] to Brooklyn Township & res.[ided] there until their death. She d. Nov. 27, 1877. 5 chil. 1. ELI or ELY [Fay 6], b. P.[arma] T.[ownship], O.[hio], Apr. 22, 1828 (Sk. 462), m. Mrs. Huldah Taylor. She d. Middleburg, O.[hio], 1865. He m. 2d Apr. 4, 1866, Betsey E. Dunahm in Rockport O.[hio]. She ws b. Spr. 2, 1842, in M.[iddleburg, Ohio], dau.[ghter] of Almond & Eunice (Corbin ) D.[unham]. 1 son 1. Ira E. [Fay 7], b., m. Ida West, 2, 3, 4, & 5 not reported. 2. Mabel [(Fay) Humphrey 6], b. P.[arma] O.[hio], (the 1st white chld in the town) m. Dudley Humphrey. 3. JEREMIAH W. [Fay 6], b. P.[arma, Ohio], Mar. 8, 1822, m. Cleveland, O., Sept. 5, 1854, Mary A. Bradley, dau. of Alfred & Clarissa (Briscoe) B.[radley], b. july 5, 1854, Rockport, O.[hio]. 5 chil. 1. William N. [Fay 7] 2. Edgar B. [Fay 7], b., m. Dora Hoffman. 3. Alfred W. [Fay 7], b. m. Jennie E. Peck. 4. Clarence [Fay 7] 5. Albert W. [Fay 7], b., d. in infancy. (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlborough and His Descendants. Published in Cleveland, Ohio: Press of J. B. Savage, 1898: Pages 182-183. BENAJAH FAY (95) Ebenezer Fay, No 26 [cor. 15], had a son Benajah who was born in Sturbridge [MA] in 1773. Cyrus Fay writes, "I had an Uncle Benajah, who went to Ohio." Hudson also locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the old cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Roades, wife of Benajah Fay, b. Mar. 10, 1798, d. Mar. 29, 1859." In the "History of Cuyohoga County" Ohio, page 338, the author speaks of Benajah Fay and his wife, whose name was Ruth Wilcox, and that he was born 1777 in Mass., and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co. N.Y. In 1816, they came to Cuyahoga Co. O.[hio] and settled in Parma Township, where they lived till their death. She died Sept. 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were the parents of 3 children, Mabel Jeremiah W. and Ruth and again that Eli (or Ely) was the son of Benajah Fay Jr, who was born in "York State" in 1806, that he was 10 years old where he, with his father and the family came to Cuyahoga Co. O.[hio], where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was married to Lois Hodgeman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where they resided until their death. He dying of the choldera in 1849 and she lived until Nov. 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter. Eli being the oldest child. It would seem that Benajah Fay Sen. had 4 chil. 3 by wife Ruth (and if only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have been writen to his descendants in Parma, and elsewhere, with the hope that a satisfactory solution of the case will yet be secured. (Fay, Orlin P., ibid, Page 205) Benajah Fay 4 [OPF # 95] was the son of Ebenezer Fay 3 [OPF # 15]; grandson of Samuel Fay 2 [OPF # 4] and great grandson of John Fay Sr/1 (1648-1690) and his first wife, Mary BRIGHAM (1638/9-1676) of Marlboro, MA. John was an emigrant from England. Please send me your snail mail directly to my e-mail address and I will send you what I have on these ancestors from the FAY Family Data Base in hard copy. I would also like to receive copies of your relevant pages from the History of Parma by Ernest R. Kubasek (1976) in hard copy. Your distant cousin, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Jim, :) This should provide some guidance on your search. But let me say that this OPF reference is a good example of both the strengths and weaknesses of the OPF genealogy that Mary (Fay) Nelson recently highlighted. OPF only shows 3 children, your reference shows 13. Such are the limitations that existed at the time he wrote his book. If you have further information on the descendants of Benejah Fay it would be helpful to forward it to this list in response. It may help someone immediately, but more importantly it is maintained in a searchable electronic archives for easy retrieval by any researcher with Internet access in a week, a month or a year or whenever the need arises. That will prevent a great deal of redundant research by any who may be interested in him. There is a great deal of information in this reference beyond what I'm reproducing here. The reference is Orlin P Fays Genealogy of John Fay of Marlborough. 1898. Pages 175, 182, 183, 205 "BENAJAH, b. Sturbridge, July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma township, Ohio, m. Lewis Co, NY Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs Rhoda Edwards, wid of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859 4 children." Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2, John 1 Children listed are Benejah Jr, Mabel and Jeremiah with various other information. That's 3. There is also a biography, as follows: "Ebenezer Fay No 26 had a son Benejah who was born in Sturbridge in 1773. Cyrus Fay writes " I had an Uncle Benejah who went to Ohio." Hudson also locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the old cemetary in Cleveland Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Rhodes, wife of Benejah Fay, b. Mar 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859." In the "History of Cuyahoga County" Ohio, page 338 the author speaks of Benejah Fay and his wife whose name was Ruth Wilcox and that he was born in 1777 in Mass. and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co, NY. In 1816, they came to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio and settled in Parma Township where they lived until there death. She died Sept 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were the parents of 3 children Mabel, Jeremiah W., and Ruth and again that Eli (or Ely) was the son of Benejah Jr who was born in "York State" in 1806 that he was 10 years old when he, with his father and family came to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was married to Lois Hodgman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where they resided until their death. He dying with the cholera in 1849 and she lived until November 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter, Eli being the oldest child. It would seem that Benejah Fay Sen. had 4 children, 3 by wife Ruth (and if only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have been written to his descendants in Parma and elsewhere with the hope that a satisfactory solution of this case will yeat be secured." There is also a great deal of other information on this family beyond what can be reproduced here. We'll wait to hear the "rest of the story"!. Bob :) ----Original Message Follows---- Good morning, I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: Sophie born 5/17/1800 Asa born 10/23/1801 Amanda born 11/20/1802 Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 Mary born 7/31/1808 Harriet born 4/27/1810 Huldah born 11/19/1811 Watson born 9/26/1813 Lyman born 10/6/1815 these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. Mabel born 1/26/1820 Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child born in Parma.. In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. Any help would be appreciated. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > tree. > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in Camden, > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in Princeton, > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > I'll be happy to share information with my previously unknown > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on any > of these folks. > > Thanks. > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- I was doing some census work yesterday at the National Archives and I am still searching for Catherine Fay Hartshorn, widow of Bradley in the 1830 and 1840 census. (he died 1825 in Compton, Quebec) Does anyone know of any reason why she might use the name "Martha" Hasrtshorn? I think I spotted her in the census, as she is next door to Catherine's daughter and son-in-law and in both records, "Martha" is the right age to be Catherine and has no male head of household. I have never seen a middle name given for her. Rolene Kiesling, Groveland, CA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- I was doing some census work yesterday at the National Archives and I am still searching for Catherine Fay Hartshorn, widow of Bradley in the 1830 and 1840 census. (he died 1825 in Compton, Quebec) Does anyone know of any reason why she might use the name "Martha" Hasrtshorn? I think I spotted her in the census, as she is next door to Catherine's daughter and son-in-law and in both records, "Martha" is the right age to be Catherine and has no male head of household. I have never seen a middle name given for her. Rolene Kiesling, Groveland, CA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

From:kljjs@aol.com ----Original Message Follows---- I am searching for parents and siblings of: Adeline/Adda B. FAY born 27 Sept 1847 in Barnard, Windsor, VT (ref Death cert), died 18 June 1878 in Palatine, Cook, IL. Married 23 Nov 1864 in Boylans Grove, Butler, Iowa to Julius LINCOLN, son of Benjamin B. LINCOLN and Roxanna FAY (wonder if Roxanna and Adeline are related somehow due to same last name????) !850 Census index shows only one FAY family in Barnard, Windsor, VT --- That being Lorenzo D. FAY Page 408 (anyone have access to that census? If so does he have a 2 or 3 year old daughter?) 1860 Census index of Randolph, Orange County, VT Page 350 Lorenzo D. FAY 1870 ???? (Could he be in Iowa where his daughter got married????? 1880 Census Index of Palatine, Cook, IL Page 445 Lorenzo D. FAY Reasons I am looking at Lorenzo D. FAY as possible father of Adeline/Adda 1. Only FAY in Barnard, Windsor, VT near time of Adeline/Adda's birth 2. Adeline lived and died in Palatine, Cook, IL Thank You, Katey in Michigan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

>From :gemon@unforgettable.com ----Original Message Follows---- Good morning, I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: Sophie born 5/17/1800 Asa born 10/23/1801 Amanda born 11/20/1802 Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 Mary born 7/31/1808 Harriet born 4/27/1810 Huldah born 11/19/1811 Watson born 9/26/1813 Lyman born 10/6/1815 these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. Mabel born 1/26/1820 Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child born in Parma.. In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. Any help would be appreciated. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > tree. > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in Camden, > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in Princeton, > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > I'll be happy to share information with my previously unknown > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on any > of these folks. > > Thanks. > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Rolene, This should help. Many are interested in this family. pages 230-231: Levi Fay, b.in Southboro, Oct 6, 1747 d. Oct 10, 1805, res.Northboro And Marlboro. Was committeman in M. His name was on the roll of Capt. Barnes And Co. which marched to Cambridge Aprl 19, 1775. He m. June 3 1773, Lucretia Howe. She died June 11, 1778. He married 2nd. Nov 18, 1779, Elizabeth Hudson. 7 children, 3 by first wife. John 3,David 2, John 1 Ref: John Fay of Marlborough and his descendants, by Orlin P Fay, 1898. Multiple commercial and other sources for this book are in the searchable archives of this list. Also available from the Library of Congress, State Historical Society of Wisconsin, Fort Wayne Indiana Public Library, and likely other public sources, likely as a non-circulating volume. Bob ----Original Message Follows---- From: rolene@mlode.com ----Original Message Follows---- I am interested in the family and ancestry of Catherine FAY, b. 1789, who married BRADLEY HARTSHORN. Catherine was the daughter of LEVI FAY and ELIZABETH HUDSON. If you know anything about this line, please include source material; I have data to share. Rolene Kiesling, Groveland, CA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family tree. I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in Camden, ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in Princeton, MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. I'll be happy to share information with my previously unknown kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on any of these folks. Thanks. Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

From:fayanna711@aol.com ----Original Message Follows---- Dear Mary FAY, I found your 12/19/99 E-mail interesting. My husband and I were both born in Washington, DC in the 1930's, so I was surprised to know that there were so many FAY's in that area to warrant a regular gathering. We also lived in Silver Spring, MD and Arlington, VA, respectively. We have lived in So. Florida since 1960, so I would not be available for these get-togethers, but I am most interested in any FAY info. Re the Orlin P. FAY book, what is your fee for a look-up? Would you suggest I try and find a copy of it or is the book available in libraries or stores? What is the exact title? I could not find anything by author on Amazon.com. I was named after my maternal Grandmother, Mary Elizabeth FAY-Martin from Boston, MA, whom I never knew. My maternal GGrandfather, Martin FAY, emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853 from Galway, Ireland, and M.E. FAY-Martin and Andrew FAY are the children of Martin FAY and Annie M. FALLON. I have researched Martin FAY and family but I have not found any Ireland info, but I believe I have most research on his life in Boston, MA area, where he lived and died. (His occupation was "Marble Cutter".) I do not know if Martin FAY already had family in US when he emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853, so I don't know if I am a descendant of John FAY of Marboro, MA (1600s). Any further info you can provide would be welcome. Hope your move goes well and you are in good health for the new year. Will be waiting to hear from you after 1/15. Thank you in advance. Fay FayAnna711@aol.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

from:crln@home.com ----Original Message Follows---- Hello, I have a news article. This is a VanPelt wedding in EastOakland, CA in 1888. All the guests present are known relatives except William Fay and wife. Do you know of any VanPelt's? Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Fay List [mailto:johnfay1645@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 13:56 To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FAY] William Fay, father of Vicenna Fay From:mgfairfax.rr.com ----Original Message Follows---- Hello! I am searching for the family of Vicenna Fay, who married Howard Albee (1802-1880). All I know is that her father was named William, (no dates or place). Her son, William C. Albee (1833-1868) married Phoebe Jane TooGood(1837-1917). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Howdy Cousins, I am researching the many branches of our extended family tree. I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in Camden, ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in Princeton, MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. I'll be happy to share information with my previously unknown kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on any of these folks. Thanks. Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) seanpfay@worldnet.att.net

Dear Researcher, Charles Volney Fay [OPF # 2462], b. Oct. 8, 1853, A soldier, m., Tiffin O.[hio], Apr. 17, 1856, Julia A. Waggoner, dau. of Samuel & Charlotte (Van Pelt) W.[aggoner]. 6 chil. (Sk. 2462). {Orlin P. Fay, 1898: page 85/ See OPF # 976, 6th child} More information available if this seems to fit your information, please sontact me directly. Mary (FAY) Nelson 9