>From Chris Fay Would be most interested to see a posting of the books of Fay Genealogies you mentioned. Sources would be nice, also, or at least dates & publishers. Altho have found no help yet, am finding the submittals most interesting. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

> Some of the Fay line left Ireland in the Flight of the Earls.Which started > the French connection.Mary Fay > Mary - would you expand upon these two statements? Thx, Chris> ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, Mary Fay was born abt 1874 in Roxbury, MA, she was the daughter of George and Mary(CONLEY)FAY of Boston. She had a son named George Faye. She married Charles Lincoln Sawyer, 29 Aug 1894 in Castine, ME. She died in 1929 in Castine, ME. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Fran ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Some of the Fay line left Ireland in the Flight of the Earls.Which started the French connection.Mary Fay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Fay, Thanks for the posts. I can't directly answer the question that you ask, but can say a few things. There are multiple Fay lines, supposedly all starting in France, some going to the Brittish Isles in the Norman Invasion in the 12th century, where they became the Irish and English Fays. At least this is what I've read. The surname was also differentiated into a number of variants, for example, "Faye" is an English variant. "Fahey" and "Fahe" are Irish variants. Again this is from what I've read and surmised. >From England initially, some Fays (Orlin P Fay gives four different Fay lines in colonial times) came to North America. Others came later from both England and Ireland. Still other migrated all over the world. There are also multiple genealogies dealing with the Fays. My list is probably 20 separate Fay genealogies. None is as comprehensive as Orlin Fay's. I know very little about the other genealogies, but will put together the list and publish it here shortly and perhaps that will help. Hopefully, this post, and the subsequent one on the other "Fay genealogies" will ellicit a large number of contributions from others on this list that are more knowledgable in this area than I and we may all benefit. Bob Fay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Searching for information on Lorenzo D. FAY who shows up in the census index of Windsor, Barnard, VT 1850 Page 408. Does he have a 2or 3 year old daughter Adda/Adeline? My Adeline FAY was born 27 Sept 1847 in Barnard Twp, Windsor Co., VT and looking at the census index I find Lorenzo D. FAY the only Fay family there at that time. Can anyone help me? Katey in Michigan

Searching for information on Lorenzo D. FAY who shows up in the census index of Windsor, Barnard, VT 1850 Page 408. Does he have a 2or 3 year old daughter Adda/Adeline? My Adeline FAY was born 27 Sept 1847 in Barnard Twp, Windsor Co., VT and looking at the census index I find Lorenzo D. FAY the only Fay family there at that time. Can anyone help me? Katey in Michigan ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Mary FAY Nelson, Your E-mail of 01/04/2000 crossed in the mail with my E-mail with above subject.. Your message I am referring to is the one where you sign off by saying if one is a FAY with Irish background, then the Orlin P. FAY book would not help. Where do the Orlin P. FAYs come from? England? I never received a reply to my 01/04/2000 E-mail to you, and just want to make sure that I understand that the O.P. FAY book would be of no use in searching for an Irish FAY from Galway (1853) to Boston (my GGrandfather). To refresh your memory I am the FAY that was born in Washington, D.C. Thanks for your help....Fay FayAnna711@aol.com Dear Mary FAY, I found your 12/19/99 E-mail interesting. My husband and I were both born in Washington, DC in the 1930's, so I was surprised to know that there were so many FAY's in that area to warrant a regular gathering. We also lived in Silver Spring, MD and Arlington, VA, respectively. We have lived in So. Florida since 1960, so I would not be available for these get-togethers, but I am most interested in any FAY info. Re the Orlin P. FAY book, what is your fee for a look-up? Would you suggest I try and find a copy of it or is the book available in libraries or stores? What is the exact title? I could not find anything by author on Amazon.com. I was named after my maternal Grandmother, Mary Elizabeth FAY-Martin from Boston, MA, whom I never knew. My maternal GGrandfather, Martin FAY, emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853 from Galway, Ireland, and M.E. FAY-Martin and Andrew FAY are the children of Martin FAY and Annie M. FALLON. I have researched Martin FAY and family but I have not found any Ireland info, but I believe I have most research on his life in Boston, MA area, where he lived and died. (His occupation was "Marble Cutter".) I do not know if Martin FAY already had family in US when he emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853, so I don't know if I am a descendant of John FAY of Marboro, MA (1600s). Any further info you can provide would be welcome. Hope your move goes well and you are in good health for the new year. Will be waiting to hear from you after 1/15. Thank you in advance. Fay FayAnna711@aol.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

--part1_53.53147ca5.25abdff8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mary FAY Nelson, Your E-mail of 01/04/2000 crossed in the mail with my E-mail with above subject.. Your message I am referring to is the one where you sign off by saying if one is a FAY with Irish background, then the Orlin P. FAY book would not help. Where do the Orlin P. FAYs come from? England? I never received a reply to my 01/04/2000 E-mail to you, and just want to make sure that I understand that the O.P. FAY book would be of no use in searching for an Irish FAY from Galway (1853) to Boston (my GGrandfather). To refresh your memory I am the FAY that was born in Washington, D.C. Thanks for your help....Fay FayAnna711@aol.com --part1_53.53147ca5.25abdff8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Fayanna711@aol.com From: Fayanna711@aol.com Full-name: Fayanna711 Message-ID: <0.99026646.25a3e71c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:15:24 EST Subject: Surname FAY - MA and Washington DC = Reply To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com CC: Fayanna711@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Dear Mary FAY, I found your 12/19/99 E-mail interesting. My husband and I were both born in Washington, DC in the 1930's, so I was surprised to know that there were so many FAY's in that area to warrant a regular gathering. We also lived in Silver Spring, MD and Arlington, VA, respectively. We have lived in So. Florida since 1960, so I would not be available for these get-togethers, but I am most interested in any FAY info. Re the Orlin P. FAY book, what is your fee for a look-up? Would you suggest I try and find a copy of it or is the book available in libraries or stores? What is the exact title? I could not find anything by author on Amazon.com. I was named after my maternal Grandmother, Mary Elizabeth FAY-Martin from Boston, MA, whom I never knew. My maternal GGrandfather, Martin FAY, emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853 from Galway, Ireland, and M.E. FAY-Martin and Andrew FAY are the children of Martin FAY and Annie M. FALLON. I have researched Martin FAY and family but I have not found any Ireland info, but I believe I have most research on his life in Boston, MA area, where he lived and died. (His occupation was "Marble Cutter".) I do not know if Martin FAY already had family in US when he emigrated to Boston, MA in 1853, so I don't know if I am a descendant of John FAY of Marboro, MA (1600s). Any further info you can provide would be welcome. Hope your move goes well and you are in good health for the new year. Will be waiting to hear from you after 1/15. Thank you in advance. Fay FayAnna711@aol.com --part1_53.53147ca5.25abdff8_boundary--

Dear Sean, I think that your line of descent is as follows: John Fay Sr/1 [OPF #1] and Susanna (Shattuck) Morse-FAY-Brigham [OPF # 1-W2] Gershom Fay Sr 2 [OPF # 7] and Mary Brigham (dau. of John & Sarah Brigham) [OPF # 7-W1] Silas Fay Sr.3 [OPF # 5] and Hannah [?] [OPF # 5-W1] Silas Fay Jr. 4 [OPF # 27] and Anna Gleason [OPF # 27-W1] Thomas Fay Sr 5 [OPF # 27-2] and Sally Hooker [OPF # 27-2-W1] Thomas Fay Jr. 6 [OPF # 27-2-2] and Mary A. [?] [OPF # 27-2-2-W1] [possibly Clarissa /Clara Morse Andrews was 2nd wife?] Here is the entry from Orlin P. Fay, modified: ([OPF#] 27) SILAS [Fay Jr. 4]. -- Silas 3, Gershom 2, John 1. He was b. in Westboro, [MA], Nov. 14, 1747. d. Camden, Me., m. Princeton [MA/ME?], where he res. May 7, 1776, Anna Gleason, b. in P.[rinceton, MA/ME?], d. C.[amden], Me. 8 chil.[dren] b. P.[rinceton, MA/ME?] .....1. Silas [Fay III 5], b. June 1777 ([OPF # ] 76). .....2. THOMAS [Fay Sr. 5], m. Apr. 18, 1802, Sally Hooker. He was killed by a falling tree. 4 chil. ..........1. Ezra [Fay 6] ..........2. THOMAS [Fay Jr 6], m. Mary A., he had 3 chil. ...............1. Jane M. [Fay 7], b. June 3, 1837. ...............2. Martha A. [(Fay) Wilson 7], b. Apr. 13, 1840?, m. Gardner Wilson of Keene, N.H. ...............3. George Otis [Fay 7], b. Sept. 8, 1840. ..........3. Lorinda [Fay 6] ..........4. Mary [Fay 7] .....3. NANCY [(Fay) Hosmer 6], m. 1803, Capt. Nathaniel Hosmer of Camden, Me. 10 chil. ..........1. Nathaniel [Hosmer 7] ..........2. Franklin [Hosmer 7] ..........3. Joseph [Hosmer 7] ..........4. Jesse F. [Hosmer 7] ..........5. George [Hosmer 7] ..........6. Nancy [Hosmer 7] ..........7. Harriet [Hosmer 7] ..........8. Sophia [Hosmer 7] ..........9. ______[Hosmer 7] ..........10. _____[Hosmer 7] .....4 Jesse [Fay 6], b. Apr. 24, 1785 ([OPF # ] 96). .....5. TIMOTHY [Fay 6], b. Apr. 2, 1790, d. June 17, 1865, m. Oct. 13, 1816. Nancy Cobb, dau. of Samuel and Azubah (Newton) C.[obb], b. Sept. 25, 1795 in Princeton, d. Jan. 15, 1874 in Camden, Me. 5 chil. ..........1. Joseph Ward [Fay 7], b. June 4, 1819, d. young. [+] ..........2. Elizabeth D. [Fay 7], b. Apr. 6, 1824, res. C.[amden, Me.]. Not certain that she m. ..........3. James H. [Fay 7], b. Oct. 19, 1825, res. C.[amden, ME] ..........4. Sarah Adaline [Fay 7], b. Nov. 22, 1828. ..........5. Francis E. [Fay 7], b.Sept. 4, 1832, d. Unm. [+] /page 334 .....6. MARY [(Fay) Pendelton 6], m. Col. Arthur Pendelton. 5 chil. ..........1. George Fay [Pendelton 7], res. East Sumner, Me., and ..........Nos. 2, 3, 4, and 5. .....7. John [Fay 6], d. 1857? in Leominster [MA/ME?], m. Sophia Newton of Royalton [VT], rem. to Camden, Me., with his father prior to 1816, but ret. to Mass., where died, leaving no chil. [+] .....8. ACHSAH [(Fay) Davis 6], m. 1812, Col. John Gould Davis of Princeton [MA/ME] She d. in Brattleboro, Vt., age 92. 3 chil. ..........1. John D. [Davis 7] ..........2. Simeon C. [Davis 7] ..........3. a dau.[ghter Davis 7] (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlboro and His Descendants. Cleveland, OH: Press of J.B. Savage, 1898: 334-335]. Looking at the material which you sent in in FAY-D-Digest V00 # 3 X-message 8 of Wed. Jan. 5, 2000, The above material is consistent with your data. Silas Fay Jr 6 was born in 1777, Thomas was born between him and Jesse Fay 6 born 1785. It is conceivable that there were other children who died early, or still born, or several miscarriages between the listed children. His older brother Silas Fay 6 had his first child in 1806, which gives a rough date for his marriage. Therefore your dates are compatible. Also the name of Thomas Fay Jr. 6's wife is Sally Hooker. It is possible that Thomas Fay Sr.5 married twice. Orlin P. Fay is a guide not a primary source. I would suggest that your Princeton might be Princeton, Maine rather than Mass, but I have no other reference on this family set at this time. I do have entries for Gershom 2 and John Fay 1. Your distant cousin, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Harriette Your lineage for Apollos Fay 6a and 6 b is as follows: John Fay 1 [OPF 1] and Mary BRIGHAM John Fay 2 [OPF # 2] and Elizabeth WELLINGTON Deacon James Fay 3 [OPF # 32] and Lydia CHILD Daniel Fay 4 [OPF # 64] and Mary CROSBY (2nd wife) Aaron Fay 5 [OPF # 161] and Rebecca Winslow (2nd wife) Aaron Fay 6b [OPF # 977] and Lucy HUSSINGTON Armona (Fay) Remington 7 [OPF # 977-1] Burritte Fay Remington 8 [OPF # 977-1-1] Lucia Fay 7 [OPF # 977-2] (1833-1882) Melissa Jennette (Fay) Rentz 7 [OPF # 977-3] Cora Jennette Rentz 8 [OPF # 977-3-1] (1863-1882) Lucy Adele Rentz 8 [OPF # 977-3-2] b. 1865, resided in Cleveland, Ohio Imogene Louisa (Rentz) Keller 8 [OPF # 977-3-3] b. 1870, m. 1892 The line of Aaron Fay 5 and his children is also given in William Monroe Newton's History of Barnard, Vermont with Family Genealogies 1761-1927 In Two volumes, volume 2 Genealogies. Published by the Vermont Historical Society, The Free Press, Burlington ,Vt. 1928; pages 196-197) Since you are a descendant of Deacon James FAY 3 [OPF # 32] you are probably about a fifth cousin to me. Approximately 25 other known descendants of Deacon James Fay 3 [OPF # 32] are in my data bases, 6 in my family and two of my second cousins once removed and their families, and about 4 family lines from Daniel Fay 4 [OPF # 64]. I look forward to seeing your information. Your cousin, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Harriete, Here is the beginnings of the entry for APOLLOS [FAY 6/ OPF # 977]: APOLLOS [FAY 6], b. Barnard, Vt., Nov. 28, 1798, d. Mar. 21, 1859, rem. with his parents (as did n=his brother Lucius) from Vt. 1815. He had 102 acres of land nort of martin Kellogg's farm w[h]ere he settled & raised his family, but as did his brother) he sold out & rem. to Norwalk, O.[hio], where he died. He m. in Bridgewater, Vt., 1825, Lucy Hussington, dau.[ghter] of John & Betsey (Emerson) H.[ussington], b. B.[arnard] Vt., Dec. 30, 1800, d. Clyde, O.[hio], Jan. 21, 1878. 3 chil. b. Bronson O.[hio] (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlborough and His Descendants. Published in Cleveland, Ohio: Press of J.B. Savage, 1898: 85.) [entries for this line go up to 1893. Back to John Fay 1 ] Please contact me directly by e-mail for hard copy of your line. Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Hariette, Armona (Fay) Remington 7 [OPF # 977-1]is the oldest child of Apollos Fay 6[OPF # 977]. One son given: Burritte Fay Remmington.8 [OPF # 977-1-1] , b. Fitzwilliam Ohio, June 6, 1846. (Orlin P. Fay, 1898: page 85] Please contact me and send your snail mail for full entry. Sincerely Mary (FAY)N elson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Dear JoAnn, In response to the message of the FAY -D-Digest V. 99 #18 X Message #7 posted on 12/18/1999, with your original message below Bob Fay's text, I am providing you with an expanded version of Orlin P. Fay's entry for the above mentioned Fay's: ([OPF #] 370) WILLIAM [Fay 5] -- Elijah 4, Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2 John 1. He was b. Apr. 11, 1776, d. Jan. 25, 1850, m. Temperance Clark, dau.[ghter] of William and Rachel Clark, b. July 5, 1779, d. June 11, 1830. in Genesee, N.Y. He m. Hannah Mantle, b. Mar. 13, 1796, d. G.[enesee, NY], Jan. 5, 1830.[Typo in year date, possibly 1850/60/80?] His 2nd wife was a wid.[ow] Dodge. res. G.[enesee, NY] 9 chil. [By first wife, Temperance (Clark) Fay:] 1. William W. [Fay 6], b. June 10, 1804, d...m... 2. Lozinia [Fay 6], b. Oct. 10, 1856, d. 3. Vicenia [Fay 6], b. Nov. 17, 1807, d. 4. Rasafa [Fay 6], b Feb. 16, 1810, d. 5. Corydon E. [Fay 6], b. Dec. 19, 1813, d. 6. Mortimer D. [Fay 6], b. May 27, 1816, d. 7. DORCELINA [(Fay) Walker 6], b. Feb. 6, 1819, m. Mar. 2, 1837, Robert William Walker, b. Whitehall, N.Y., July 9, 1811, res. Bath, Steuben Co., N.Y., 6 chil. 1. Marion R. [Walker 7], b. May 19, 1839. 2. Helen T. [Walker 7], b. July 17, 1842. 3. William J. [Walker 7], b. Nov. 4, 1845. 4. Melissa R. [Walker 7], b. Apr. 25, 1849. 5. Rose M. [Walker 7], b. June 2, 1859. 6. Ida L. [Walker 7], b. Oct. 24, 1862 8. Napoleon R. [Fay 6], b. July 2, 1822, res. Chessanging, Mich. [By second wife, Hannah (Mantle) Dodge Fay:] 9. Samuel B. [Fay 6], b. May 29, 1834, res. Clio, Mich. A grafter and pruner. (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlborough and His Descendants. Published in Cleveland, Ohio, Press of J.B. Savage.1898: page 191)[ Modified by M.F. Nelson 1/8/2000] It is my opinion that the informant was Dorcelina (Fay) Walker, as she is the only member of the family with a list of descendants and their dates. She probably sent one letter to Orlin P. Fay sometime after 1862 as that is the most recent date in the material. Since no marriages or deaths are cited after that time, I suspect that she only wrote one letter. You may find leads in the Census of 1870, 1880 1900, 1910 and 1920 in the towns mentioned for her parents and siblings. Be sure to look for others of the family in these towns. Samuel B. FAY was probably a specialist in agricultural as the terms given are for the propagation of fruit trees. I am related distantly to this family and I will check to see what else I have on this family. Please send me your snail mail address to my e-mail and I will try to get some other materials to you soon. Your distant cousin, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- Hi, All. I, too, have a FAY from Windsor Co. VT with no proven parents: Apollos FAY (d. 21 Mar 1859 Norwalk, Huron Co., OH) m. 23 Jan 1823 Bridgwater VT to Lucy HOISINGTON (b. 1799 Bridgewater, Windsor Co., VT, d. 21 Jan 1878 Clyde, Sandusky Co., OH). Their known children were: Armona (b. 9 Feb 1827 West of Norwalk, Huron Co., OH Lucia (b. 6 Dec 1833 West of Norwalk, Huron Co., OH Jennette (b. 23 Feb 1841 West of Norwalk, Huron Co., OH, d. 24 Feb 1904) I'd be happy to correspond with anyone who has FAYs in these areas. Harriette ============================================================ Hoisington Family Web Site <http://www.genweb.net/~hoisington/index.htm> Sumner Co. KS <http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/sumner/index.html> Kay Co. OK <http://www.rootsweb.com/~okkay/okkay.htm> SURNAMES: HOISINGTON (w/28 variant spellings) anywhere, HATFIELD (OH>IN>IA> KS>OK), HARDIN (MO>OK), DAVIS (Posey Co. IN), MORRIS (KS), COMBS (KY,IN,KS,OK, CA), JONES (Brown Co. OH), PERKINS (VT>IA>KS>OK>TX), LATHAM (MO) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Good morning all, For your perusal, here's some text from "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976 by Ernest R. Kubasek and Bernard Survoy. This will be presented with me only removing information that does not pertain to the FAYS. Please pardon the occassional typos. page 49-51 "In the waning days of 1815, the same year that the war with the British ended, a man, his wife, and their ten children were preparing themselves, their wagons and their team of oxen for the long trek from New York into the Ohio wilderness. Taking the trail from Albany to Buffalo, where it connected with the Lake Trail, the man traveled the distance walking alongside his wagon. most of his ten children walked with him, tending to the horse tied to the back of the wagon. Oftentimes his wife would walk along with him, carrying an infant child, less than one year old, while he carried another small child. There were many stops made, to rest the animals and tend to the injuries of man and woman alike. The reasons for coming, or not coming, varied; but the inducements that brought this man and his family to a land they had never seen were many. The cost of the land was low, and the soil was richly fertile, there was no slavery and a man's labor received a high price for a day's work. It was Benejah Fay, a native of Massachusetts, who came with his wife, Ruth Wilcox Fay and ten children from Lewis County, New York and first settled on a division of the Western Reserve known as Township 6, Range 13. The year was 1816. The purchase of Township 6 had been acquired by various proprietors, Tuckerman, Cheny, Ely, Blake, and others. the Fay family were the first settlers in the Township, locating themselves on the Blake Tract. Fay quickly started the task of clearing the land and with his three oldest sons, Asa 15, Joseph Mason 11, and benejah Jr. 10, he built a cabin. The new land had earned the ignoble name of Greenbrier after a thorny, climbing shrub which produces small greenish flowers. . . . Being the first settlers in Parma held no particular significance however, for Ruth and Benejah Fay. It was probably some time later before they even realized the fact. The land was still wild, and their chores each day started before dawn and lasted well into the night. What is more important than being first, is the matter of what they did after they arrived here. They had to survive and they did. When the Fay family arrived, Benejah Fay had to cut a road through the woods to his land. The present site of his first settlement is now Theota Avenue at the intersection of Pearl and Ridge Roads. Fay was a merchant, not a farmer, and his eye for business soon saw an opportunity. His property fronted a wagon trail leading to Medina and Columbus. In 1819 as the road was now becoming wel traveled, he opened a tavern. It was actually a "double log house", with logs fifteen feet long. The cabin itself was 7 feet high. A remarkable construction accomplishment for three boys and a man. He designed it as an inn with loft sleeping quarters for travelers and primitive accommodations for their horses or oxen. The double log cabin was chinked with clay and had a fireplace, spoken of with proud grandiloquence as being large enough for a man to stand in. The location of Benejah Fay's land, plus the large, warm, welcoming fireplace of B. Fay's Inn, made his place a famous landmark for many years. Fay's foresight was further rewarded when in the summer of the following year, 1820, the first stagecoach lines were started on the route between Cleveland and Columbus. . . .Fay's Inn was the first tavern south of Cleveland on the Columbus Road and quickly became a favorite stopping place for meals, lodging, and spirits. It also earned the distinction of being Parma's first business established. Another first for Ruth and Ben Fay came in the same year as the arrival of the first stagecoach line in Parma, although this new arrival did not come by coach. On January 26, 1820 Mabel Fay was born to Parma's first settlers and upon her arrival she earned the honorary distinction of being the first child born in the township. Soon freight wagons and mail lines were running to Columbus and as B. Fay's Inn prospered, in 1826 Benejah Fay replaced the log house with a frame structure. In 1832 he replaced the wooden structure with a brick one which also became the first brick house in the Parma Township. Benejah Fay served two terms as a town trustee, 1827 and 1828, and four terms as the township Treasurer - 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834. Fay was born on July 28, 1773 in Sturbridge, Massachusetts. Ruth Wilcox Fay was also born there in the year 1781. Ruth Fay died in 1831 and a year later Benejah married Rhoda Roads. There were no children recorded from the second marriage. Jeremiah Wilcox Fay, born in Parma in 1822, was the grandfather of Dr. Dudley Fay. Dr Fay presently resides on Vista Lane in Parma." That is the main mentioning of the Fay's, though there are more references throughout the book. Dr. Dudley Fay died on 1-16-1992. My wife's great-grandfather is the brother of Dr. Dudley S Fay. The book on page 50 lists all the children with their birthdates, which I already posted to the list. It fails to mention any other Fays aside from Dr. Dudley Fay or Benejah's children. LMA Jim & Elicia Shreve

----Original Message Follows---- Good morning all, For your perusal, here's some text from "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976 by Ernest R. Kubasek and Bernard Survoy. This will be presented with me only removing information that does not pertain to the FAYS. Please pardon the occassional typos. page 49-51 "In the waning days of 1815, the same year that the war with the British ended, a man, his wife, and their ten children were preparing themselves, their wagons and their team of oxen for the long trek from New York into the Ohio wilderness. Taking the trail from Albany to Buffalo, where it connected with the Lake Trail, the man traveled the distance walking alongside his wagon. most of his ten children walked with him, tending to the horse tied to the back of the wagon. Oftentimes his wife would walk along with him, carrying an infant child, less than one year old, while he carried another small child. There were many stops made, to rest the animals and tend to the injuries of man and woman alike. The reasons for coming, or not coming, varied; but the inducements that brought this man and his family to a land they had never seen were many. The cost of the land was low, and the soil was richly fertile, there was no slavery and a man's labor received a high price for a day's work. It was Benejah Fay, a native of Massachusetts, who came with his wife, Ruth Wilcox Fay and ten children from Lewis County, New York and first settled on a division of the Western Reserve known as Township 6, Range 13. The year was 1816. The purchase of Township 6 had been acquired by various proprietors, Tuckerman, Cheny, Ely, Blake, and others. the Fay family were the first settlers in the Township, locating themselves on the Blake Tract. Fay quickly started the task of clearing the land and with his three oldest sons, Asa 15, Joseph Mason 11, and benejah Jr. 10, he built a cabin. The new land had earned the ignoble name of Greenbrier after a thorny, climbing shrub which produces small greenish flowers. . . . Being the first settlers in Parma held no particular significance however, for Ruth and Benejah Fay. It was probably some time later before they even realized the fact. The land was still wild, and their chores each day started before dawn and lasted well into the night. What is more important than being first, is the matter of what they did after they arrived here. They had to survive and they did. When the Fay family arrived, Benejah Fay had to cut a road through the woods to his land. The present site of his first settlement is now Theota Avenue at the intersection of Pearl and Ridge Roads. Fay was a merchant, not a farmer, and his eye for business soon saw an opportunity. His property fronted a wagon trail leading to Medina and Columbus. In 1819 as the road was now becoming wel traveled, he opened a tavern. It was actually a "double log house", with logs fifteen feet long. The cabin itself was 7 feet high. A remarkable construction accomplishment for three boys and a man. He designed it as an inn with loft sleeping quarters for travelers and primitive accommodations for their horses or oxen. The double log cabin was chinked with clay and had a fireplace, spoken of with proud grandiloquence as being large enough for a man to stand in. The location of Benejah Fay's land, plus the large, warm, welcoming fireplace of B. Fay's Inn, made his place a famous landmark for many years. Fay's foresight was further rewarded when in the summer of the following year, 1820, the first stagecoach lines were started on the route between Cleveland and Columbus. . . .Fay's Inn was the first tavern south of Cleveland on the Columbus Road and quickly became a favorite stopping place for meals, lodging, and spirits. It also earned the distinction of being Parma's first business established. Another first for Ruth and Ben Fay came in the same year as the arrival of the first stagecoach line in Parma, although this new arrival did not come by coach. On January 26, 1820 Mabel Fay was born to Parma's first settlers and upon her arrival she earned the honorary distinction of being the first child born in the township. Soon freight wagons and mail lines were running to Columbus and as B. Fay's Inn prospered, in 1826 Benejah Fay replaced the log house with a frame structure. In 1832 he replaced the wooden structure with a brick one which also became the first brick house in the Parma Township. Benejah Fay served two terms as a town trustee, 1827 and 1828, and four terms as the township Treasurer - 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834. Fay was born on July 28, 1773 in Sturbridge, Massachusetts. Ruth Wilcox Fay was also born there in the year 1781. Ruth Fay died in 1831 and a year later Benejah married Rhoda Roads. There were no children recorded from the second marriage. Jeremiah Wilcox Fay, born in Parma in 1822, was the grandfather of Dr. Dudley Fay. Dr Fay presently resides on Vista Lane in Parma." That is the main mentioning of the Fay's, though there are more references throughout the book. Dr. Dudley Fay died on 1-16-1992. My wife's great-grandfather is the brother of Dr. Dudley S Fay. The book on page 50 lists all the children with their birthdates, which I already posted to the list. It fails to mention any other Fays aside from Dr. Dudley Fay or Benejah's children. LMA Jim & Elicia Shreve ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Good morning, I do know that Asa also made it to adulthood. He was appointed Treasurer in 1828. He is among the 4 Fay's found among the early elected officials: 1827: Benejah Fay, Trustee 1828: Benejah Fay, Trustee Asa Fay, Treasurer 1831-1834: Benejah Fay, Treasurer 1867-1868: Jeremiah W Fay, Treasurer 1871-1876 J W Fay, Justice of Peace 1903: Allen Fay, Trustee 1908-1909 Allen Fay, Trustee I believe J W Fay is Jeremiah Wilcox. Allen Fay would have to be related through either Asa or Benejah Jr, since we know the names of Jeremiah's children. Least that is what i think. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary F. Nelson To: Jim Shreve Cc: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 10:19 AM Subject: Benajah Fay [OPF # 95]'s ancestry > You are in luck as Benajah Fay 4 [OPF # 95} is in Orlin P. Fay's book, > pages 182-183. However, only 3 of his children were listed, who may be the > only ones who attained adulthood. (My guess.) > > The entry reads: > (95) Sk > BENAJAH [Fay 4], b. Sturbridge [MA] July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma > Township, Ohio, m. in Lewis Co., N.Y. Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept. 16, > 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs. Rhoda Edwards, wid.[ow] of Lyman Rhodes, b. May > 10, 1798, d. Mar. 29, 1859. 4 chil. > 1. BENAJAH [Fay] JR. [5], b. 1806 in "York State," d. Parma, T.[ownship], > O.[hio] 1849 of cholera. He was 10 yrs old when he with his father went to > Ohio./page 182 > (with the family) to Cuyahoga Co. His youth was spent in P.[arma] > T.[ownship] where he was m. to Miss Lois Hodgeman, b. 1808. He first > settled in P.[arma] agerwards rem.[oved] to Brooklyn Township & res.[ided] > there until their death. She d. Nov. 27, 1877. 5 chil. > 1. ELI or ELY [Fay 6], b. P.[arma] T.[ownship], O.[hio], Apr. 22, > 1828 (Sk. 462), m. Mrs. Huldah Taylor. She d. Middleburg, O.[hio], > 1865. He m. 2d Apr. 4, 1866, Betsey E. Dunahm in Rockport O.[hio]. She ws > b. Spr. 2, 1842, in M.[iddleburg, Ohio], dau.[ghter] of Almond & Eunice > (Corbin ) D.[unham]. 1 son > 1. Ira E. [Fay 7], b., m. Ida West, > 2, 3, 4, & 5 not reported. > 2. Mabel [(Fay) Humphrey 6], b. P.[arma] O.[hio], (the 1st white chld > in the town) m. Dudley Humphrey. > 3. JEREMIAH W. [Fay 6], b. P.[arma, Ohio], Mar. 8, 1822, m. > Cleveland, O., Sept. 5, 1854, Mary A. Bradley, dau. of Alfred & Clarissa > (Briscoe) B.[radley], b. july 5, 1854, Rockport, O.[hio]. 5 chil. > 1. William N. [Fay 7] > 2. Edgar B. [Fay 7], b., m. Dora Hoffman. > 3. Alfred W. [Fay 7], b. m. Jennie E. Peck. > 4. Clarence [Fay 7] > 5. Albert W. [Fay 7], b., d. in infancy. > (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlborough and His > Descendants. Published in Cleveland, Ohio: Press of J. B. Savage, 1898: > Pages 182-183.

Morning, What is the lists rules regarding file attachments? I can just scan the necessary pages and attach it. I am on some lists where it is permitted, and some where it is not. BTW, To everyone who sent us info on Benejah, we thank you. We plan on checking the cemetery mentioned in the source we cited, seeing as we live in Cleveland, Oh, and it's only a short drive there. LMA Jim Shreve ----- Original Message ----- From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: [FAY] USA, Ohio, Benejah Fay, b.7/28/1773 > Hi Jim, :) > > This should provide some guidance on your search. But let me say that this > OPF reference is a good example of both the strengths and weaknesses of the > OPF genealogy that Mary (Fay) Nelson recently highlighted. OPF only shows 3 > children, your reference shows 13. Such are the limitations that existed at > the time he wrote his book. > > If you have further information on the descendants of Benejah Fay it would > be helpful to forward it to this list in response. It may help someone > immediately, but more importantly it is maintained in a searchable > electronic archives for easy retrieval by any researcher with Internet > access in a week, a month or a year or whenever the need arises. That will > prevent a great deal of redundant research by any who may be interested in > him. > > There is a great deal of information in this reference beyond what I'm > reproducing here. The reference is Orlin P Fays Genealogy of John Fay of > Marlborough. 1898. > > Pages 175, 182, 183, 205 > > "BENAJAH, b. Sturbridge, July 28, 1773? d. 1862 in Parma township, Ohio, m. > Lewis Co, NY Ruth Wilcox, b. 1781, d. Sept 16, 1831. He prob. m. 2nd Mrs > Rhoda Edwards, wid of Lyman Rhodes, b. May 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859 4 > children." > > Ebenezer 3, Samuel 2, John 1 > > Children listed are Benejah Jr, Mabel and Jeremiah with various other > information. That's 3. > > There is also a biography, as follows: > > "Ebenezer Fay No 26 had a son Benejah who was born in Sturbridge in 1773. > Cyrus Fay writes " I had an Uncle Benejah who went to Ohio." Hudson also > locates him in Ohio and the following inscription is on a tombstone in the > old cemetary in Cleveland Ohio. "Rhoda Edwards, widow of Lyman Rhodes, wife > of Benejah Fay, b. Mar 10, 1798 d Mar 29, 1859." > > In the "History of Cuyahoga County" Ohio, page 338 the author speaks of > Benejah Fay and his wife whose name was Ruth Wilcox and that he was born in > 1777 in Mass. and that she was born 1781 in Lewis Co, NY. In 1816, they came > to Cuyahoga Co, Ohio and settled in Parma Township where they lived until > there death. She died Sept 16, 1831 and he in March 1862 and that they were > the parents of 3 children Mabel, Jeremiah W., and Ruth and again that Eli > (or Ely) was the son of Benejah Jr who was born in "York State" in 1806 that > he was 10 years old when he, with his father and family came to Cuyahoga Co, > Ohio where he spent his youthful days in Parma Township and where he was > married to Lois Hodgman who was born in 1808. They first settled in Parma > where they lived for some time and then removed to Brooklyn Township, where > they resided until their death. He dying with the cholera in 1849 and she > lived until November 27, 1877. They had a family of 4 sons and one daughter, > Eli being the oldest child. > > It would seem that Benejah Fay Sen. had 4 children, 3 by wife Ruth (and if > only three) that he must have been married three times. Several letters have > been written to his descendants in Parma and elsewhere with the hope that a > satisfactory solution of this case will yeat be secured." > > There is also a great deal of other information on this family beyond what > can be reproduced here. > > We'll wait to hear the "rest of the story"!. > > Bob :) > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Good morning, > > I am looking for info on the lineage of Benejah Fay born July 28, 1773 in > Sturbridge, Mass and he died in 1860 in Parma, Oh. He was married to Ruth > Wilcox, who was born in 1781 in Sturbridge, Mass and died in 1831 in Parma, > Oh. He married Rhoda Roads in 1832, after the death of his first wife. > According to "The History of Parma" by Ernest R. Kubasek published in 1976, > he was the 15th child of Ebenezer & Mary Fay. They happened to be the first > settlers in what is now known as Parma, Oh. Their children are as follows: > > Sophie born 5/17/1800 > Asa born 10/23/1801 > Amanda born 11/20/1802 > Joseph Mason born 7/31/1805 > Benejah Jr born 8/6/1806 > Mary born 7/31/1808 > Harriet born 4/27/1810 > Huldah born 11/19/1811 > Watson born 9/26/1813 > Lyman born 10/6/1815 > these children were all born in Sturbridge, Ma. > Mabel born 1/26/1820 > Twins Jeremiah & Ruth born 3/8/1822 > These last three were born in Parma, Oh, with Mabel being the first child > born in Parma.. > > In any event, my wife is descended from this particular Fay, and I've been > trying to get a tree together for our children. The book I mentioned above > has a lot of info about the children on Benejah and Ruth Fay, thankfully. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > LMA > Jim Shreve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fay List <johnfay1645@hotmail.com> > To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:30 AM > Subject: [FAY] Fays in Maine > > > > From:seanpfay@worldnet.att.net > > > > Howdy Cousins,I am researching the many branches of our extended family > > tree. > > I started with the FAY family of Massachusetts and am now > > looking to find information pertaining to Thomas Fay who was born in > Camden, > > ME in 1779 and died in Camden, ME on 14 Jan 1808 . > > He married Sarah (Sally) HOOKER of Princeton, MA on 18 Apr > > 1802. They had at least one son: Thomas, who was born in 1806 in > Princeton, > > MA and died 24 Feb 1885 in Boston, MA. He married Clarissa (Clara) Morse > > ANDREWS on 28 Nov 1836. > > I'll be happy to share information with my previously > unknown > > kin and would be grateful for any assistance or further information on > any > > of these folks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sean P. Fay (Fayetteville, NC) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

----Original Message Follows---- Hi, I am new to the list and have very little info on Mary Faye. She was born abt 1874 in Roxbury, MA, and had a son named George Faye. She married Charles Lincoln Sawyer, 29 Aug 1894 in Castine, ME. She died in 1929 in Castine, ME. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Fran ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com