From: "Phil Palen" <tarboxinc@utec.net> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FAY] RE:Harriet Beecher Stowe Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:33:39 -0800 Hi Bob: You're welcome. Hope you find some more celebrities in your search. Regards, Phil ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

REPUBLISHED FROM THE FAHEY LIST *************************************************************** From: EDWARD D COSTELLO <costello13@juno.com> To: FAHEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} [FAHEY] FAHEY's Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:29:51 -0800 To*Whom*It*May*Interest: My Ggm was Catherine FAHEY of Ballindine Co Mayo Ireland. Regards, ED COSTELLO, 1009 Blenheim Dr, Raleigh NC 27612 USA e-mail: < costello13@juno.com >, tel: 919-782-6058 Searching: COSTELLO, JOYCE, HAGGERTY & LAVERTY COSTELLO: 2 brothers, possibly 3, emigrated Ballindine, Co Mayo c.1870, that is, Ballindine in Annagh parish, Costello Barony, & the plu of Claremorris: John COSTELLO, 1848-1922, w/wife Mary MALLAHY 1848- ?, & 2 kids settled in Franklin MA USA, after a sojurne in CT USA; they probably arrived in USA at NYC; he was a laborer; 7 kids: Mary & Michael (both b: Co Mayo, Ireland, she 1869, he 1871), John jr, Margaret, Catherine (all b: CT, USA, respectively: 1873, 1875 &1876); Richard & Sara, (both b: MA USA, respectively 1880 & 1887). Many decendents still reside in Franklin MA USA John & Mary are interred in St Mary's RCCem, Franklin MA USA Thomas Richard COSTELLO (my Gf), 1850-1900, resided & worked as a stonecutter in Monson MA USA; m: Bridget JOYCE (my Gm), 1850-1886, in Palmer MA USA, 1875 at St Anne's RCCh; 8 kids (all USA b:): Catherine, 1875-1918; Mary, 1877-1897; Edward, 1879-1881; John Patrick, my father, 1881-1966; Un-named Male, 1883-1883; Bridget, 1886-?; Thomas Richard jr, 1883-1972 & Ellen, dates unknown. Thomas Richard & Bridget along w/3 of their kids & her sister & brother are all interred in the Bethany RCCem, Monson MA USA. Decendents reside all over N America. Their parents were Richard & Catherine (FAHEY) COSTELLO, both of Ireland, from, presumably, the town of Ballindine, Co Mayo. JOYCE: 2 sisters & one brother emigrated Ireland, Co Mayo, 1857 to Monson/Palmer/Chickopee MA USA area: Catherine, 1847-1915, worked as a domestic & mill worker; m: John DOWER; no known family. Bridget (my Gm), 1850-1886, m: Thomas Richard COSTELLO (my Gf), 1875, St Anne's RCCh, Palmer MA USA; domestic & home maker; kids as above. Martin, 1852-1881, painter; unmarried. Their parents were Martin & Mary JOYCE, both of Co Mayo (town unknown) Ireland. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ==== FAHEY Mailing List ==== Fahey List Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Fahey Genforum: http://genforum.genealogy.com/fahey/ Fahey GenConnect Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/f/a/FAHEY/queries James Fahy's Homepage: http://ConstableFahy.home.att.net/heraldry.html ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Phil, Thanks for the info on Harriet Beecher Stowe and Presidents Hayes, Taft, and Nixon. I had never heard any mention of this before, but perhaps it was common knowledge to many others. In any event, thanks for sharing it. Our former subscriber Mr. KenKateAndy, by the way, is now blocked from posting to this list, thanks to his offensive little treatise too. Bob Fay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

From: Egrdn@aol.com Subject: {not a subscriber} [FOY] Bridget Foy Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:57:25 -0800 Looking for relatives of Bridget M. Foy m. James M. Ford in Chicago in 1860. Relatives may include Martin, Patrick, and Thomas. Known relatives are Emma, Maggie, Anna, and Kate. Eleanor Gordon ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Bob: The presidential and H.B. Stowe connections came from a chart entitled, "Descendants of John Foote". He was born in the 16th Century. The first dates shown in his line are for a grandson, Nathaniel Foote (1593-1644). The Fays entered this line in the 9th Generation, when Foote descendant Achsah Stratton (1785-1870) married Nehemiah Fay (1776-1856). Nehemiah descends from John Fay [OPF #1] of Massachusetts (1648-1690) through Samuel I (1673-1732) - Samuel II (1705-1788, had 25 children) - Joseph (1741-1825). George H. Bush descends from 5th Generation Foote descendant Rebecca Smith, and also 10th Generation Foote descendant James Smith Bush, who married Harriet Eleanor Fay. >From 5th Generation Foote descendant Nathaniel Foote (1660-1714) came 10th Generation desc Roxanna Foote, who married Lyman Beecher. Their daughter Harriet Beecher (1811-1896) married Calvin E. Stowe. >From 4th Gen Foote desc Rebecca Foote (abt 1634-1701) came 9th Gen desc Chloe Smith, who married Rutherford Hayes. Their son, Rutherford Hayes Jr., married Sophia Birchard. Their son, an 11th Gen Foote desc, was President Rutherford Birchard Hayes. >From 3rd Gen Foote desc Mary Foote came 11th Gen desc Louisa Maria Torrey, who married Alphonso Taft. Their son, a 12th Gen Foote desc, was President William Howard Taft. Also from Mary Foote (3rd Gen) came 13th Gen Foote desc Hannah Milhous, who married Francis Anthony Nixon. Their son, a 14th Gen Foote desc, was President Richard Milhous Nixon. I'm not a professional genealogist, but it is a fascinating endeavor. These famous Americans share a common ancestor in John Foote with a branch of the Fay family. Maybe not directly, but collaterally. You do the math. Regards, Phil

Subject: Very Ineresting NO SHITT > > > > Many people are at a loss for a response when someone says "you don't > > > > >> know Jack Schitt." But the lineage has finally been revealed and > > you > > > > >can > > > > >> now intellectually handle the situation. > > > > >> > > > > >> AT LAST, AN ANSWER TO THE AGE OLD QUESTION -- WHO IS JACK SCHITT? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt and they > > became > > > > >> partners in Kneedeep & Schitt, Inc. They only had one child, Jack > > > > >> Schitt. > > > > >> > > > > >> When Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt, however, the deeply religious > > > > >couple > > > > >> produced 7 children: Holie Schitt (who later went into the > > > > >priesthood), > > > > >> Fulla Schitt, Giva Schitt, Bull Schitt, Crock A. Schitt, and the > > > > >twins, > > > > >> Deap Schitt and Dip Schitt. > > > > >> > > > > >> As sometimes happens, after 15 years Jack and Noe divorced and Noe > > > > >Schitt > > > > >> later married Mr. Scherlock. But because Noe's kids lived with > > them, > > > > >she > > > > >> kept her previous name and was then known as Noe Schitt - Sherlock. > > > > >> > > > > >> Against his parents objections, Deap Schitt married Dumb Schitt, a > > > > >high > > > > >> school drop out. > > > > >> > > > > >> Dip Schitt married Loda Schitt and they produced a nervous son, > > > > >Chicken > > > > >> Schitt. > > > > >> > > > > >> The girls, Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, were inseparable > throughout > > > > >> their childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a > > > > >dual > > > > >> ceremony. The Wedding announcement in the newspaper read "the > > > > >> Schitt-Happens wedding." The Schitt-Happens' had 3 children, Dawg, > > > > >Byrd, > > > > >> and Horse. > > > > >> > > > > >> Bull Schitt, Jack and Noe's prodigal son, left home to tour the > > world. > > > > > > > > > >> He recently returned from Italy with his new bride, Piza Schitt. > > > > >> > > > > >> So now if someone says, "You don't know Jack Schitt," you can > > correct > > > > >> them. Not only do you know Jack, you know the whole family! > > > > >> > > > > >> Sincerely, > > > > >> > > > > >> Crock A. Schitt > > > > >> Used car salesman, politician, FAY > > > > >> and Family Historian

Dear Amy, Just a few details before I answer your request. There are between 10,000 and 15,000 known descendants of John Fay 1 [OPF #1] If you are a descendant of Jedediah Fay Jr. 5 [OPF # 135], then you are a member of this group. Please use the name of your main FAY person with OPF number in the Subject lines and this will help me help you. Our resource is Orlin P. Fay. FAY GENEALOGY: JOHN FAY of Marlborough and his Descendants, Cleveland, Ohio, 1898. This can be obtained from Higginsons Books and take between 10-12 weeks to receive a facsimile/photocopied version, which is still expensive. If Jedediah Fay 4 [OPF # 135 is your ancestor , then his line of descent is : John Fay Sr/1 [OPF # 1 and m(1) Mary BRIGHAM (1638/9-1676), OPF, p. 19 John Fay 2 [OPF #2] and Elizabeth WELLINGTON (1673-1729?), OPF, p. 21-22 John Fay III 3 [OPF #25] and Hannah CHILD, OPF, p. 23 Jedediah Fay Sr 4 (OPF # 61) and Elizabeth BRIGHAM, OPF, p. 25 Jedediah Fay Jr 5 [OPF #135] and Martha WING of ATHOL, MA, OPF, p.39-40 You may also want to track down a history of ATHOL, MA and see if it will give you better detail on your family. Currently I don't have this resource. I will try to get some hard copy information to you if you will snail mail me your address directly to my e-mail. <mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net> Most of my material is accessible only by hardcopy. Your cousin, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 At 11:37 AM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >Mary ... >Thanks for the info. that you posted to the list. I would imagine that my >Nancy Wing FAY fits into the first group of info. (Daughter of Jebediah FAY >and Martha WING). Not only does the name "Wing" come up so often. But, my >Nancy Wing FAY was married to a man named Joshua CONE. He was also born in >Ashford, Connecticut. And - that's where the five children of Jebediah FAY >were born. > >Do you have any other info. on this Jebediah FAY line?? > >Amy >Lexington, Ohio > ><< X-Message: #3 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:33:19 -0500 > From: "Mary F. Nelson" <mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net> > To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000126174839.00b49a70@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [FAY] FAY-EVANS-WING > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear Amy in Ohio > What I have is a portion of two of Orlin P. Fay's entries. It may help >you. > > Jedediah FAY [OPF # 135)], b. in Westboro, Apr. 21, 1760, d. Apr. 9, 1796, > m. Martha WING, res. Ashford Ct., where he died 5 chil. b. A.[shford, CT] > 1. Nancy, b. Feb. 10, 1782. > 2. Nathan Wing [Fay], b. Feb. 16, 1784 > 2. Martha Wing [(Fay) Matthias ], b. Mar. 14, 1816. > 4. William Nathan [Fay], b. 1819, d. 1886 [aged 63 years] > 3. Nahum [Fay] > 8 John Wing [Fay], b. Jan. 1831, d. 1836. > 12. Martha Wing [(Fay) Mattthias], b. April 23, 1841. She res. >Rochester, > Ohio. > (OPF, 1898: 39-40) > > Note the number of persons in this family with Wing as a middle name. Was > the first daughter one of these ? [Does Nancy [FAY] = Nancy Wing FAY?] I > don't know. Nothing else was given for her except her birthdate. > > > FRANCES AUGUSTA [(Evans) Wing 7], b. Feb. 11, 1811, d. Dec. 9, 1878, m. > Aug. 9, 1835, Marcus Tullius Cicero Wing, Son of Hon. David & Hanna (Davis) > Wing., b. Oct. 15, 1798, d. Feb. 26, 1863. See p. 558 , Spooner > Gen.[ealogy] > 1. Charles Tudor [Wing 8], b. Jan. 14, 1836, m. Mary L. Scanlan. See p. > 559 Sp.[ooner's] Gen.ealogy] > 2. William Spooner [Wing 8], b. Nov. 21, 1837, m. Sarah Sawyer. See p. 560 > Sp.ooner's] Gen.[ealogy] > 3. Frances Caroline [(Wing) Clark 8], b. Feb. 16, 1840, m. Samuel > Clark. See p. 560 Sp.[ooner's] Gen.[ealogy] > 4. Olivia [Wing 8], b. Aug. 20, 1842, d. May , 1865. [aed about 23 years +] > 5. Harriet Janette [(Wing) Rand 8], b. Oct. 27, 1845, m. Rev. Charles > Rand. Grad. Harvard, Pastor of Episcopal church, Haverhill, Mass. & other > places. > 6. Catherine Maria [Wing 8], b. July 10, 1848. > 7. Frances Evans [Wing 8], b. Jan. 2, 1851. > 8. Marcus Olin [Wing 8], b. July 12, 1855, d. June 6, 1857. > (Fay, Orlin P. FAY GENEALOGY: John Fay of Marlborough and His Descendants. > Cleveland, OH;Press of J.B. Savage: 1898: 80) > > Frances Augusta was the daughter of Nancy (Fay) EVANS 6. It is thus > conceivable that one of Frances's daughters, if she married a FAY, might > name one of their daughters Nancy Wing FAY. I have one or two other Wing's > in the OPF book, if this family does not fit your information. Look at > numbers 6 and 7 for which no other data was given. > The Spooner Genealogy was written before 1898, as it is one of the few > references given by Orlin P. Fay. > > Please let me know what you find out about this family, as the ones I am > posting are all descendants of John Fay Sr/1 (1648-1690). I am very > interesting in learning more about your WING Family. > Sincerely, > Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 > >>

Seeking the name of church and related info for a marriage in Waupun,Wis. This town is on the border between Dodge and Fond du Lac Counties, but officially located in the former. In Sept. 1867, Elder WHITING officiated at marriage of Robert LEE and Catherine CRAIG or Catherine BAKER. I would like to learn the name and denomination of the church, and of its survivor church. I would also appreciate learning about any genealogical/historical individual or group in Waupun. Thank you in advance. John Hartmann hartmann4j4k@earthlink.net

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Hello Bob: No, it's not wild speculation. The Fays and Bushes are related. Here is how: George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st President of the United States, is the son of Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895-?). George's grandparents were Samuel Prescott Bush (4 OCT 1863 - 8 FEB 1948) and Flora Sheldon. George's great grandparents were James Smith Bush (15 JUN 1825, Rochester, NY - 11 NOV 1889, Ithaca, NY) and Harriet Eleanor Fay. That is where the lines intersect. I am not a genealogist and am afraid I cannot be of much help with requests for information. I would refer the above question to www.genforum.com , then get the Bush Family Genealogy Forum and go to message #860, posted 27 JUN 1999 by Charles H. Bush. He quotes LDS as his source. Perhaps a dedicated Fay researcher will point you to the other presidential links. They all have in common a connection to old New England families. Good luck! Phil Palen

Good morning, I made a little boo-boo in my original posting allow this one to clarify some things. We went looking for three cemeteries specifically: St. Peter's Cemetery off of Ridgewood Drive in Parma, Cuyahoga County, OH. Parma Heights. Historical Cemetery on Pearl Rd. in Parma Heights, Cuyahoga County, OH. Parma Historical Cemetery on York Rd. in Parma Heights, Cuyahoga County, OH. St. Peter's Cemetery is no longer there. No idea where it went, or when it went, but it's not there anymore. Parma Historical Cemetery we found, but looks like it hadn't been taken of in years. There was stones under shrubs, a lot of broken stones, etc. etc. We found no FAY graves there. Parma Heights Historical Cemetery was the one where we found the FAY graves we mentioned below. It was kept up very well, though it was not as large as we thought it would be. It only had a few broken stones, and, surprisingly is still being used. Of the stones we say the newest one had a deathdate of 1999. None of these cemeteries had any actual signs saying what cemetery they were, but they were fairly easy to find. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Shreve Sr. <gemon_hammersmythe@ameritech.net> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:27 PM Subject: [FAY] FAY graves > Good morning all, > > My wife and I finally found the time to go cemetery searching. In the three > cemeteries we looked for, all mentioned in the book everyone on this list > should know by now, we found two of them, of which one was in an obvious > state of disrepair. In that one we did not find any FAY graves whatsoever. > We did luck out in the first one we stopped at though. > > Here's what we found: > > One large group stone that was like a tower > > On one side of the monument: > > BENNAJAR FAY (this is how it is spelled. i imagine jeremiah was a tad upset > about it) > DIED APR. 15, 1860 > AGED 85 YRS. > RUTH FAY > DIED SEPT. 16, 1831 > AGED 50 YRS > LOVINA FAY > DIED MAR. 17, 1872 > AGED 93 YRS > GEORGE W FAY > DIED MAR. 20, 1846 > AGED 11 YRS > > On the front side of the monument: > > JEREMIAH W > 1822 - 1913 > MARY A > 1836 - 1912 > > FAY (this is at base of monument) > > On other side of monument: > > ALBERT W FAY > SON OF J.W. & M.A. FAY > DIED JUNE 6, 1861 > AGED 1 YEAR 7 5 MOS. > WILLIAM N FAY > SON OF J.W. & M.A. FAY > DIED JULY 14, 1906 > AGED 51 YRS > > There is nothing written on the back side of the monument. > > I found around this central monument two individual gravestones > > One for GEORGE W FAY (no dates on it, just the name. If this is the FAY > mentioned on the monument, someone paid and put a fresh stone on it. Dr. > Dudley FAY would be my guess as to who.) > > Another for B F FAY (dates could not be read, but the stone was obviously > one of the older ones in the cemetery) > > There may be more gravestones around the monument, but we didn't feel like > shoveling snow. We'll make another trip when the snow is melted more. > > In the row directly in front of the FAY monument we found, we found two more > individual FAY stones. I'm sure there was more, but snow once again > presented a problem. > > BENEJAH FAY JR. > BORN > AUG. 6, 1806 > Died (these lines were in a different script) > JULY 24, 1849 > this stone was very readable, except for the death date which had some wear. > > LOVELL B > SON OF > B & L FAY > BORN > AUG. 23, 1848 > DIED > OCT 15, 1866 > this stone had writing below the death date, but snow and wear had made it > so it was not legible > > > Lovina FAY is probably Benejah FAY's sister, though in no references I've > seen so far is she mentioned as coming to Parma. Perhaps someone else on the > list can find other evidence of that. Just the same, the age of her death > matches that of his sister within 2 years. > > The George W FAY on the same side as Lovina, Bennajar, and Ruth FAY > intrigues me. He had to have been born in 1835 by my math. He, therefore had > to be a son of either Lovina FAY or Benejah FAY. If he is the son of Lovina, > he was born out of wedlock. Possible, but unlikely considering the day and > age. If he was the son of Benejah FAY his mother would have to be Rhoda > EDWARDS. That's more likely. He could also very well be the son of one of > the older FAY boys. I doubt that however, as the monument itself was > probably placed there by Jeremiah Wilcox FAY, evidenced by the fact that it > his name on the front of it. > > Lovell B FAY has got to be the son of Benejah FAY Jr., as there are no other > B. FAY's born to Benejah Sr. > > Just my take on things. > Jim & Elicia SHREVE

Hi Bob: The connection between the Bush and Fay lines is well-documented. If you go to www.genforum.com and get the Bush Family Genealogy Forum, go to Message #860, posted 27 June 1999 by Charles Bush. He cites the LDS records as a source. Here is how the Bush and Fay lines intersect: Former President George Herbert Walker Bush is the son of Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895-?). George's grandfather was Samuel Prescott Bush (4 OCT 1863 - 8 FEB 1948). George's great grandfather was James Smith Bush (15 JUN 1825 - 11 NOV 1889), who married Harriet Eleanor Fay. Therefore, President Bush's great-grandmother on his father's side was a Fay. I am not a genealogist, and have no files or records, so I'm afraid I won't be of much help with requests. But the Fay line does intersect three or four American presidents, as well as Harriet Beecher Stowe. Perhaps an accomplished Fay researcher can show you the exact links. Best of luck in your search, Phil Palen

Good morning, My fault. I apologize. I'll fix that problem and resend the original message out. In the meantime I scanned in some of the pics I took and already sent them to a few people. If anyone else wants them email me privately gemon@unforgettable.com I don't want to bog down the list with potential requests. Jim SHREVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Gloria C. Lester <gclester@juno.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:12 PM Subject: [FAY] Fay Graves ?? > I found the message about the Fay graves interesting, but I have no idea > where they are located!!! > > It would be most helpful if we could be a little more specific and > include place names in our messages, even if it means repeating > ourselves. > > Thanks. > Gloria Lester > >>^. .^<< > gclester@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

The Bush - Fay connection is on Pg 103 of the OP Fay book. Dick Miller Green Valley, AZ http://dmillergv.tripod.com/

Does anyone know anything about this woman? Magdalena Fay. She was born in Bohemia on June 15, 1847, as Magdalena Kohout. Her father was John Kohout. She had one son from her first marriage to a man with the surname Fay. His name was John or Johan Fay. Husbands first name unknown. She lived in Cuyahoga County, Ohio in Newburgh Township with her second husband Peter Vacik. (my great-grandfather) They were married in Cuyahoga County, Ohio on February 27, 1893. Magdalena died January 12, 1918. She is supposedly buried in Harvard Grove cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio. Thanks for anyhelp that anyone may be able to provide. John Kangas

Hi Phil, I had heard of the George Bush thing, in fact I have seen not only the line you indicate, but a completely separate line as well. But where have you seen any other Presidents or Harriet Beecher Stowe mentioned? I've never heard anything about them, and I doubt if anyone else has either [or perhaps I lead a sheltered life <g>] Bob Fay >snip< From: "Phil Palen" <tarboxinc@utec.net> [FAY] Harriet Beecher Stowe? >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:38:20 -0500 > >Hello Bob: > >No, it's not wild speculation. The Fays and Bushes are related. Here is >how: > >George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st President of the United States, is the son >of Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895-?). George's grandparents were Samuel >Prescott Bush (4 OCT 1863 - 8 FEB 1948) and Flora Sheldon. George's great >grandparents were James Smith Bush (15 JUN 1825, Rochester, NY - 11 NOV >1889, Ithaca, NY) and Harriet Eleanor Fay. That is where the lines >intersect. > >I am not a genealogist and am afraid I cannot be of much help with requests >for information. I would refer the above question to www.genforum.com , >then get the Bush Family Genealogy Forum and go to message #860, posted 27 >JUN 1999 by Charles H. Bush. He quotes LDS as his source. > >Perhaps a dedicated Fay researcher will point you to the other presidential >links. They all have in common a connection to old New England families. > >Good luck! > >Phil Palen > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Phil Palen, In your letter of February 13, 2000, regarding Deliverance Fay of Westborough, you mentioned that we "probably know" about the connection of the Fays to the Bush family and also "three or four other American presidents, as well as Harriet Beecher Stowe." Actually, that's news to me! Could you enlighten those of us that haven't heard this? Is this proven or just some genealogists wild eyed speculative claim to drum up business? And what about Harriet Beecher Stowe? That's new's to me too. Same questions too. Thanks, Bob Fay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I found "my" FAY progenitors graves in Springfield, Chicopee, and Monson, MA. If you are working in these areas send me an e-mail and we'll compare notes. Happy Hunting, Holly

I found the message about the Fay graves interesting, but I have no idea where they are located!!! It would be most helpful if we could be a little more specific and include place names in our messages, even if it means repeating ourselves. Thanks. Gloria Lester >>^. .^<< gclester@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

At 11:28 AM 2/14/00 -0800, I wrote: > >Thank you, Betty. As another subscriber pointed out, our date would have had >Deliverance, born 15 Nov 1757, dying before her daughter, Mary or Molly, was >born in 1756. If only my eyes were as sharp, to be able to see this apparent >transcription error. > This is not my day, week, whatever. That should have been born 15 Nov 1727, not 1757. That would have been a real zinger, to die before being born :-). I will change her death date of 1754 to May 25, 1823. Thanks all. Robert Kline email: robertkline@bc.sympatico.ca 1079 Walalee Dr, Phone: 604-657-0134 Delta, BC, Canada, V4M 2L9 Web page: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/robertkline/