Hi Holly, Could you maybe explain what the 72 and 100 year rules are that genealogists use. I'm not a genealogist, and I hope those that are can decide on something. I can make it a policy anyway you and the other genealogists decide! Bob If we are 'voting', I myself like the 72 year rule. I think the list is doing well! Holly ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Family and Friends, I think that many responses to posts in this list may be lost to us because of changes in the list setup. Is everyone aware that if you now click simply on "reply" when you are answering a post, then your reply is sent ONLY to the person who posted the query? That means that the others of us who may be researching in the same area do not have the benefit of YOUR contribution. If you answer and think that your answer may be of interest to more than JUST the person who first wrote, click on "reply TO ALL".. then it will be sent to the list, just as it used to be. Linda

Dear Folks, As an active genealogist who lives on the East Coast, I want to thank Ms. Linda Hogan for her comments on the religion at the end of her message.["FAY] Obit for George Fay", vol. 00; #60:x-message #3; posted June 22, 2000]. This kind of editorial comment, and it was clearly given as such, is of a great deal of help to me in trying to figure out your Western FAY Families. Insights, such as Ms. Hogan's, are invaluable to the professional genealogist. In this short note, we are alerted to the fact that one branch of the John Fay Sr.1 (OPF #1) family has become Roman Catholic in a given area. Consider the fact that about 1/3 of the FAY's in the United States today trace their lines from the Irish FAY/FAHEY/FAYHE (probably Roman Catholic) immigrants, and you will get some idea of how invaluable this short sentence was to me. It also alerts us to the fact that a number of the records for this family will be found in the Roman Catholic Parish and Diocese Archives. It also alerts us to looking at similar documents in the Lutheran Church Archives. [Birth records, baptismal certificates, Sunday School Records; confirmation certificates, marriage registers, funeral records, church offices held by members of the family, etc.] Of the three siblings of George Fay, I think that two can probably be identified as Albert Jenner/"Genner" (a phonetic transcription by the funeral home) and Mrs.Peral Louys, who may be Cora Anna Pearl (Fay) Louys/Louis. It is just possible that Faith (Fay) D'Annuncio was born after 1898 and is thus not numbered in the family of Daniel Fay 8 (OPF # 830-3-6) I am awaiting a confirmation of the birth dates and names of Daniel FAY's family based on the Census from 1870 to 1920. If the family of Jonathan Fay 6 (830) is not listed in any Census, then the Church records from two denominations will become invaluable to hook up Ms. Hogan and Ms Anderson's family to the FAY tree trunk. I think that it is very important to receive the informations in posts to the FAY-D list without telling folks to delete a given part of a message. You are stepping on their freedom of expression. Information which you may find somewhat offensive, may not be seen that way by the sender or by other genealogists. As far as giving dates for living persons is concerned, the dates on Obituaries will reveal who was alive at the time the obituary was written. I DO NOT want to see the dates of Obituaries left off of postings. If such dates are left off of postings, the posting becomes next to useless to a genealogist. I would caution folks to be sure to check with older relatives to see if they mind having their birth dates posted. I would point out to all of you that birth dates from Census material before 1920 is already available as that (1920) Census is open now. I also note that nothing besides Ms. Viola Fay's birth date was given. If she married, then her data would be fairly well protected. My personal policy for the FAY FAMILY DATA BASE is to close the "living" FAY Data files to non immediate family members, unless instructed to open them by the informant. I think that policies concerning information to be submitted, ought to be posted regularly, perhaps on a monthly or every two months basis, and new subscribers should receive a copy of such policy when they are entered into the list of participants. I do not like "after the fact" policy changes. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9

Mary, I have received a number of emails tonight privately about your post, and the criticism you leveled publicly on this list at Linda Hogans and Linda Kaufman. Linda Hogans has also unsubscribed because she doesn't feel its worth it to post and put up with the abuse. Would you please reconsider your position. Bob ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mary J. (Fay) Nelson" <mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net> To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FAY] Censoring Messages and Birth Dates Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:33:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [63.92.80.39] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB251BAD0041D82197E83F5C502740040; Thu Jun 29 15:41:49 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5TMfIr17687;Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:41:18 -0700 >From FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Thu Jun 29 15:44:34 2000 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:41:18 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mary.bob.nelson@worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 29 15:41:17 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000629174712.00a8bf00@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: mary.bob.nelson@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Old-To: "FAY-D-Digest, run by Robert Wm. Fay" <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1EA_W.A.JUE.OC9W5@lists3.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: FAY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/448 X-Loop: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Dear Folks, As an active genealogist who lives on the East Coast, I want to thank Ms. Linda Hogan for her comments on the religion at the end of her message.["FAY] Obit for George Fay", vol. 00; #60:x-message #3; posted June 22, 2000]. This kind of editorial comment, and it was clearly given as such, is of a great deal of help to me in trying to figure out your Western FAY Families. Insights, such as Ms. Hogan's, are invaluable to the professional genealogist. In this short note, we are alerted to the fact that one branch of the John Fay Sr.1 (OPF #1) family has become Roman Catholic in a given area. Consider the fact that about 1/3 of the FAY's in the United States today trace their lines from the Irish FAY/FAHEY/FAYHE (probably Roman Catholic) immigrants, and you will get some idea of how invaluable this short sentence was to me. It also alerts us to the fact that a number of the records for this family will be found in the Roman Catholic Parish and Diocese Archives. It also alerts us to looking at similar documents in the Lutheran Church Archives. [Birth records, baptismal certificates, Sunday School Records; confirmation certificates, marriage registers, funeral records, church offices held by members of the family, etc.] Of the three siblings of George Fay, I think that two can probably be identified as Albert Jenner/"Genner" (a phonetic transcription by the funeral home) and Mrs.Peral Louys, who may be Cora Anna Pearl (Fay) Louys/Louis. It is just possible that Faith (Fay) D'Annuncio was born after 1898 and is thus not numbered in the family of Daniel Fay 8 (OPF # 830-3-6) I am awaiting a confirmation of the birth dates and names of Daniel FAY's family based on the Census from 1870 to 1920. If the family of Jonathan Fay 6 (830) is not listed in any Census, then the Church records from two denominations will become invaluable to hook up Ms. Hogan and Ms Anderson's family to the FAY tree trunk. I think that it is very important to receive the informations in posts to the FAY-D list without telling folks to delete a given part of a message. You are stepping on their freedom of expression. Information which you may find somewhat offensive, may not be seen that way by the sender or by other genealogists. As far as giving dates for living persons is concerned, the dates on Obituaries will reveal who was alive at the time the obituary was written. I DO NOT want to see the dates of Obituaries left off of postings. If such dates are left off of postings, the posting becomes next to useless to a genealogist. I would caution folks to be sure to check with older relatives to see if they mind having their birth dates posted. I would point out to all of you that birth dates from Census material before 1920 is already available as that (1920) Census is open now. I also note that nothing besides Ms. Viola Fay's birth date was given. If she married, then her data would be fairly well protected. My personal policy for the FAY FAMILY DATA BASE is to close the "living" FAY Data files to non immediate family members, unless instructed to open them by the informant. I think that policies concerning information to be submitted, ought to be posted regularly, perhaps on a monthly or every two months basis, and new subscribers should receive a copy of such policy when they are entered into the list of participants. I do not like "after the fact" policy changes. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Mary, Perhaps I should address your concerns regarding what is published in this email list. This list is unmoderated. That means whenever a SUBSCRIBER sends a post to Fay-L@rootsweb.com, it goes directly to the listeserver at Rootsweb and is distributed to all the subscribers. No human hands even touch it to censor it. It CANNOT be censured. If someone posts offensively, I will remove them from the list. That has only happened once. I also believe that the religuous preferences that you speak of WERE in the post and you can check the archives if you like. They were not censored. Posts from NONSUBSCRIBERS are handled differently. They ALL come to me first for review. Most of the posts from nonsubscribers are SPAMMERS that are trying to use the list for their commercial purposes. It has been a long time since any SPAM got through. I have had a couple of appropriate posts, and just publish them and write the people to encourage them to subscribe. Most do. There has been no after the fact policy change. It has been the same way since I began to administer this list last year. I am the only one that can change the policy for those things. They are posted continuously at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/mailing.html and have been since about December of 1999. There are some areas on the policies that I don't really care that much, and would rather see the subscribers decide how they want this list to operate. That is who this list is FOR. And when I have asked for help no one has been willing to put something together. There are some things that I have to have as policies...various technical things to allow the subscribes/ unsubscribes to move effectively, no violation of US and International copyright laws, and protection of personal privacy. And I have defined the purpose to be the genealogy and history of the Fays. That eliminates email fights about politics, religion, and other contentious issues. I would like it very much if you and anyone else that is interested would help further refine the policies of this list. Within broad bounds I can be pretty flexible, but I really don't like a lot of "Rules" Should postings about people follow the 100 year rule or the 72 year rule, for example? Should the reply-to response to a posting be to the list or just to the poster? Should the purpose of the list be modifed or expanded? These are policy issues that need to be resolved and your help would be sincerely appreciated. I believe what you are reacting to is a an off list email discussion that inadvertantly wandered onlist about placing a group of posts relating to that family on the website. The website is VERY public and must have a very high standard to protect individuals personal privacy. There are individuals on this list that have had difficult personal experiences with this. Thus the website is very conservative compared to this list. Those decisions are made between the author of an article and the Webmaster during the web page development process and are made SEPARATELY and on a case by case basis unlike the general policies of this list. Again, I would encourage you and anyone else that sees things that should be improved on this list to bring them forward and post them to the list and lets get them resolved. Please, Bob Fay, List Administrator Dear Folks, As an active genealogist who lives on the East Coast, I want to thank Ms. Linda Hogan for her comments on the religion at the end of her message.["FAY] Obit for George Fay", vol. 00; #60:x-message #3; posted June 22, 2000]. This kind of editorial comment, and it was clearly given as such, is of a great deal of help to me in trying to figure out your Western FAY Families. Insights, such as Ms. Hogan's, are invaluable to the professional genealogist. In this short note, we are alerted to the fact that one branch of the John Fay Sr.1 (OPF #1) family has become Roman Catholic in a given area. Consider the fact that about 1/3 of the FAY's in the United States today trace their lines from the Irish FAY/FAHEY/FAYHE (probably Roman Catholic) immigrants, and you will get some idea of how invaluable this short sentence was to me. It also alerts us to the fact that a number of the records for this family will be found in the Roman Catholic Parish and Diocese Archives. It also alerts us to looking at similar documents in the Lutheran Church Archives. [Birth records, baptismal certificates, Sunday School Records; confirmation certificates, marriage registers, funeral records, church offices held by members of the family, etc.] Of the three siblings of George Fay, I think that two can probably be identified as Albert Jenner/"Genner" (a phonetic transcription by the funeral home) and Mrs.Peral Louys, who may be Cora Anna Pearl (Fay) Louys/Louis. It is just possible that Faith (Fay) D'Annuncio was born after 1898 and is thus not numbered in the family of Daniel Fay 8 (OPF # 830-3-6) I am awaiting a confirmation of the birth dates and names of Daniel FAY's family based on the Census from 1870 to 1920. If the family of Jonathan Fay 6 (830) is not listed in any Census, then the Church records from two denominations will become invaluable to hook up Ms. Hogan and Ms Anderson's family to the FAY tree trunk. I think that it is very important to receive the informations in posts to the FAY-D list without telling folks to delete a given part of a message. You are stepping on their freedom of expression. Information which you may find somewhat offensive, may not be seen that way by the sender or by other genealogists. As far as giving dates for living persons is concerned, the dates on Obituaries will reveal who was alive at the time the obituary was written. I DO NOT want to see the dates of Obituaries left off of postings. If such dates are left off of postings, the posting becomes next to useless to a genealogist. I would caution folks to be sure to check with older relatives to see if they mind having their birth dates posted. I would point out to all of you that birth dates from Census material before 1920 is already available as that (1920) Census is open now. I also note that nothing besides Ms. Viola Fay's birth date was given. If she married, then her data would be fairly well protected. My personal policy for the FAY FAMILY DATA BASE is to close the "living" FAY Data files to non immediate family members, unless instructed to open them by the informant. I think that policies concerning information to be submitted, ought to be posted regularly, perhaps on a monthly or every two months basis, and new subscribers should receive a copy of such policy when they are entered into the list of participants. I do not like "after the fact" policy changes. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

WARREN, George (The History of Dodge County, Wisconsin. Chicago: Western Historical Company, 1880, p 717-718) Lumber merchant, Section 21; P. O. Fox Lake; born in Saratoga County, New York, 15 July 1824; son of Elem WARREN, who was originally from Connecticut; George, while young, was bound to his uncle, Judge STONE; afterward went to Vermont sellling stoves, and in 1849 came to Trenton, Dodge County, Wisconsin, and settled on 160 acres; Mr. WARREN engaged in the lumber business in Monroe County, in 1858, and has been extensively employed in that traffic ever since; through his shrewd management and untiring industry he has accumulated a competence; he owns 1,000 acres of standing pine; in 1875 he met with a severe loss, in the burning of his mills, but has started again with fresh vigor, and built two fine mills, one costing $1,400 and one $3,000; employs during the winter about 100 men, and last year turned out 6,000,000 feet of timber; supplies the C. & N.-W. R. R. [Chicago and Northwestern Railroad], and also sends lumber largely to Milwaukee and Chicago; in 1868, built one of the finest residences in the county, situated about three miles east of Fox Lake; is built upon an elevation, from which can be had a beautiful view [p 718] of the surrounding country; the house cost $15,000, and frescoing $1,500, and great taste has been displayed in furnishing it. Mr. WARREN married, April 1849, Mary E. WEST, daughter of Abraham B. WEST, who was born in New Lisbon, New York; his mother was of Holland, and his father of English stock; Abraham married Minerva FAY; she was of Scotch descent; Abraham WEST was a tanner and currier by trade; he died 04 February 1874, in Trenton, and his wife died in 1827; they had eight children: Cynthia E., died 1850; Henry L, is in the jewelry business in Amsterdam, New York; Thaddeus St. John, died in 1859; Rowena A., Mary E., Pamela C.; Minerva J. married, in 1850, Israel BAKER, of Greenfield, Saratoga County, New York; (she died 15 March 1877; she was a superior woman, and was beloved by all; Mrs. WARREN adopted three of her children: Marietta, Minnie L., and Ruth N.; Harriet M. married Isaac FRENISON and lives at Warren Mills); Mrs. WARREN has had five children: Frank G., born 03 August 1851, is in the lumber business with his father; Henry L., born Spetember 1854, died in infancy; Fred C., born 27 October 1856, living in Minnesota; Walter E., born 08 March 1859, also in Minnesota; Lillian E., born 27 August 1872, died in infancy; Mrs. WARREN also has three other adopted daughters: Emma W. JACKSON, adopted when she was 7 years old; Jennie PLATZ, born in 1859, in Chicago; Addie L. BENIGHT, born in 1864. Mrs. WARREN is a woman of grand benevolent instincts, and is known throughout the State as a successful and earnest worker in the great cause of temperance; was for years, Grnd Worthy Vice of the Good Templars of this State, and is now P. G. V. T. of I. O. G. T.; is also a member of the Christian Womens' U. T. A., and Deputy and P. G. V. of Sons of Temperance; in 1878, traveled 4,454 miles, 568 by wagon and sleigh, and held 49 public meetings; drove her own team two-thirds of that distance; has written 249 letters in the interest of the order; all this work she accomplished, not neglecting her own home cares or large family; she has written several books devoted to the cause of Temperance. Mr. WARREN owns, in West Chicago, two fine residences, with all modern conveniences. He and his family are members of the Baptist Church. - - - - ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

****************** Dear Friends, We are very pleased to announce that after months of work, we have a Fay Surname website, complete with a name study, a mail list with archives, guest book, online Fay family genealogies and histories, and other research resources available for your online enjoyment. Our volunteer Webmaster is Linda Fay Kaufman, email lindakaufman@earthlink.net, http://athene.org/ We ALWAYS welcome links to to other appropriate sites and internet resources, as well as additional genealogical and family material. Please contact Linda for details. Please feel free to forward this note to anyone or any list as you may feel appropriate. We, as usual, need all the help we can get! A few pages to note: Main Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/ or http://www.fayfamily.org Genealogies of a growing number of Fay family branches throughout the US, and soon to encompass international genealogies of the Fay's http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/genealogy.html Recent new additions: 1. John Fay (1648-1690), colonial settler of Marlborough, Massachusetts and his descendants, by the late Dave Fay http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~davefay/ 2.Benejah Fay, (1773-1860) first pioneer settler in Parma, Cuyahoga County, Ohio and his descendants http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/benejah.html 3.Jonathon Fay, (1795-1883) an early pioneer settler of Carlton, Monroe County, Michigan, and his descendants http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/goosehat.html Online printed material, including the nearly five hundred page "John Fay of Marlborough and his Descendants", authored by Orlin P Fay between 1850 and the time of publication in 1898 (work continues on this project) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/orlinindex.html Other online Fay genealogy related resources and reference materials at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/sources.html Fay family related books http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/books.html The first chapter of what promises to be an interesting account of John Fay of the Green Mountain Boys at the Battle of Bennington, Vermont, during the American Revolution http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/bennington.html Subscription and posting information for the Fay Family eNewsletter http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/mailing.html Online archives of Fay Family eNewsletter postings, soon to be searchable. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/archives.html A fledgling start on the origin and heraldry associated with the medevial Anglo-Norman and French branches of the Fay Family http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/crest.html Further contributions by authors, researchers, historians, photographers and genealogists are always welcome. For anyone seeking to learn webpublishing (html, webpage design and development, digital imaging, photography. ocr, web marketing, emagazine publishing, etc) we always have a variety of interesting volunteer projects and the online resources provided by others to train in these valuable skills as well gain real world experience. Please contact Linda by email at lindakaufman@earthlink.net or myself at MadGrad77@hotmail.com to explore these opportunities. Sincerely, Robert W Fay, List Admin, Fay Mail List *************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ==== NEW-GEN-URL Mailing List ==== ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

From: The Monroe Evening News Tuesday May 18, 1920 p. 6 c. 3 Suicide Victim Buried - The funeral of Austin Fay, Jr., of Carleton, who committed suicide by shooting himself in the head, was held at the Methodist church at Carleton this afternoon. He had been in failing health for sometime. Austin Fay a prominent farmer of Exeter township ended all of his early troubles on Saturday evening by shooting himself while in bed. Mr. Fay has been sick for the past three weeks and in a serious condition. His brother, Wilmer, has been caring for him and on Saturday evening he was asked by the sick brother to go and care for the chores, When only a short distance from the house the shot was heard and instantly returning to learn the cause found his brother breathing his last. Austin Fay was born at Flat Rock, September 25, 1859, and had spent 45 years of his life in Exeter township, He had never married and lived alone on his farm for a number of years. The rash act is due to despondency over his failing health. When the news reached the village many were shocked for Mr. Fay had many friends here as well as in his own neighborhood. [Hand written on this obit is: Carleton Messenger Obit File 1904? And Sept. 25, 1859] This is my question: So are these the same two Austin Fay????? Feb. 12, 1960 (Special to the Evening News) Arthur R. Fay, 70, of 3147 Douglas Rd., died Thursday in his home. Included among his survivors is a son, James B.Fay of Temperance. The body is in the Bennett Funeral Home at 3434 Secor Rd..where Toledo Commandery Knights Templar will conduct services at 3 p.m., Saturday. Burial will be in the Toledo Memorial Park Cemetery at Sylvania, Ohio. Mr. Fay was born at Mansfield, Ohio, and lived at Toledo since 1919. He was employed as a sheet-metal worker until his retirement. He was a member of: Sanford Collins Lodge, F & AM, Council Chapter and Commandery: Scottish Rite and Zenobia Shrine, and South Side Post, American Legion. He is survived by his wife, Estie, and two sons, James B. Fay of Temperance and Harold Fay of Toledo; a daughter, Miss Eloise Fay of Toledo; a sister, Mrs. Luella Hursh of Mansfield, Ohio, and four grandchildren. Mrs. Charlotte Fay (This info hand written on obit "1839- 1922") widow of the late Francis Fay died last Thursday in Detroit. The remains were at the home of William J. Stoll, l929 Twenty-fifth Street until 10:00 am,. Sa,turday. When they were taker to Carleton for interment. She leaves six children, O. J. Fay, Mrs. J. Pryor, and D. Fay of Carleton, C. S. Fay of Earlimart, California, Mrs. D.J. Hamilton and R. Fay as well as the late W. E. Fay and P.C. Fay of Detroit. Carleton Messenger Obituary File [There was also a card that read Mrs. Charlotte Fay-92 years old, d. June 30, 1922 MEN July 1, 1922 Page 2 C. 4] From: The Monroe Evening News Tuesday June 19, 1945 p. 7 c. 1 Charles F. Fay Charles F. Fay of Earlimart, California, formerly of Exeter township, died April 16, Monroe county friends have learned. Mr. Fay, who was 87 years old, had been ill some time with a heart ailment. He was a native of Michigan and lived some time in the Dakotas and Nebraska. He is survived by his widow, Mrs. Minnie Fay; one daughter, Mrs. Frances Williams of California; and a grandchild.

I have added some important web addresses to the page of links. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/links.html But I am missing many that should be here. If YOU have found a particularly good informative site, please mail me a copy of the URL, and I will post it. In this way, perhaps we can compile a really helpful list. Linda

I have been trying to get over to the DownRiver Genealogy Society in Lincoln Park--they are open from 2-5 T,W,THR. and maybe the Burton Library in Detroit on Monday (if open) for more info on the Fays who lived in Wayne Co. It's sorta a triangle from the Exeter site to the Belleville area to Huron Twp site maybe a 10 mile radius but Exeter, of course, is in Monroe Co. DRGS is also man by volunteers so they may not be open...I am waiting to hear. I hope to get those other obit posted soon. Linda

This Wooster appears on page 246 of OPF; he is not given a number, nor is any other information given about him, so that this bio is of particular interest. His father Jonathan, b. Southboro 4/25/1780, is assigned OPF #217 (page 245). Three children are recorded to Jonathan and Ruth Ellsworth: Addison, Wooster, and Hollis. Linda

Provided by Cathy Kubly ************************************************************************* ----Original Message Follows---- From: CKubly9527@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:38:25 EDT You can find this biography at: http://www.genexchange.org/IA/pottawattamie/index.cfm - - - - FAY, Wooster Submitted by: Mona Sarratt Knight to Pottawattamie Co IAGenExchange Wooster FAY, of Lewis Twp., is a native of Franklin Co., Vermont, born Nov 18, 1819, the son of Jonathan and Ruth (Elsworth) Fay. The parents were natives of Massachusetts and New Hampshire, and of Scotch and English origin. They had three children: Addison, a resident of Bowling Green, Ohio; Wooster, our subject; and Hollis, deceased in 1868. WOOSTER FAY, our subject, was reared in his native state until he was 15 years of age, when his family removed to Wood Co., Ohio. He was reared to farm life and received his education in the common schools. When the family went to Wood County it was a new country, they being among the pioneers. They improved a farm which they entered from the Government, and here he lost his parents. He remained in Wood Co. 21 years, and in 1855 came west to Iowa. In the spring of 1856 he came to Pottawattamie Co. and purchased a farm of 200 acres of partially improved land, in what is now Keg Creek Township. In the fall of 1856 he removed with his family to Pottawattamie County where they commenced life again in a new country and for the second time became a pioneer. He remained in Keg Creek Township until April 1889, when he removed to his present home on section 4, Lewis Township. He has a comfortable little home with three acres of land and here he expects to spend his remaining days. He has labored hard in assisting in the development of Pottawattamie County, having improved 176 acres of prairie land, which he disposed of at various times, and has also purchased other land. The home farm is on sections 20, 28, and 29, Keg Creek. This he improved and made his home until he removed to his present place. He dealt in stock principally, in connection with his farming and the last 12 or 13 years he has taken special pride in the rearing of a better grade of stock, in the short-horn class. Politically he is a Republican and has represented his county as a member of the Board of Supervisors for six years from 1874 to 1880. He represented his township in the state legislature for three terms and a half, and in all of his political career he has never asked a man to vote for him. Mr. Fay was married in wood Co., Ohio, November 9, 1846, to CHARLOTTE M. McMILLAN, who was born in Seneca Co., Ohio, March 10, 1826. She was the daughter of Morrison and Clarissa (Brown) McMillan, natives of New York and Canada and of Scotch origin. Mr. and Mrs. FAY have four children: Emma, born Oct 15, 1847, is the wife of Samuel H. Hopkins residing in Macedonia, Pottawattamie County, Iowa; Morrison M., a resident of Franklin Co., Nebraska, born August 27, 1849; Jane, born July 10, 1851, wife of Logan Reynolds; Isoletta, born June 8, 1866, wife of James Pershell, residing in Lincoln Co., Washington. The family are among the most worthy and respected citizens of the county and have, by their honesty and integrity, won a large circle of friends. Source: 1891 Biographical History of Pottawattamie County Iowa, by The Lewis Publishing Co - - - - ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Folks, Concerning the Vol. 00 number 59-60 issue of "Old Man FAY". I think that he is Jonathan Fay 6 [OPF # 830]: (830) JONATHAN [FAY 6], b. Westboro [MA], Jan. 30, 1795, d. Dec. 25, 1883, Exeter, Mich. In 1826, he went to Mich., where all but 2 of his children were born. He was a col. of Militia in Mass., m. Lois King, b. May 31, 1803, d. Apr. 12, 1834. He m., 2d, Oct. 22, 1835, Fanny Swap, b. Aug. 15, 1818, d. Aug. 4, 1885, res. Huron Township, Mich. 16 chil. 2 b. W.[estboro, MA], 5 by 1st wife. [By first wife, Losi (King) Fay:] 1. RUFUS [Fay 7], b. W.[estboro, MA], Apr. 20, 1823. Left home when 18 yrs old. m. 3 wives. Had 4 chil. .....1. A dau. [Fay 8] .....2. Anson [Fay 8] .....3. Villa [Fay 8] .....4. Arcosta [Fay 8] 2. Austin [Fay Sr. 7], b. W.[estboro, MA], Mar. 21, 1825, m. Almira Burke. She d.[ied]. He m. 2d, Mrs. Rosanna Randal. 2 chil. .....1. Austin [Fay Jr 8] & .....2. Wilmer [Fay 8] 3. FRANCIS [Fay 7], b. Sept. 14, 1829, m. res. Carleton, Mich. 9 chil. .....1. Dr. Orion Jonathan [Fay 8], b... .....2. WILLIAM EDWARD [Fay 8], b..., m. Anna Harriman, 3 chil. ..........1. Charlotte [Fay 9] ..........2. Leo [Fay 9] ..........3. a dau. [Fay 9] .....3. LUCRETIA [(FAY)Pryor 8], b...., m. John Pryor .....4. Charles [Fay 8], b.... .....5. LOIS LARINA [(FAY)? 8],b....., m. 2 sons .....6. DANIEL [FAY 8], b.... m. 5 chil. .....7. Jane [Fay 8], b....d.. .....8. ROBERT [Fay 8], b..., m. 2 [cor 3] chil. .....9. PERRY [Fay 8], b.... 4 JULIA ANN [(Fay) Chamberlain Potter 7], b. Feb. 2, 1831, m. July 6, 1851, Enoch A. Chamberlain. A farmer, b. Feb. 6, 1826 [d. June 29, 1898], res. Flat Rock, Mich. 5 chil. .....1. ADRIAN [CHAMBERLAIN 8], b Sept. 22, 1831, d. Fla. Nov. 6, 1893, m. Nov. 15, 1877, Deborah Livingston Downs, b. Nov. 8, 1860 in Huron Township, Mich. 3 chil. ..........1. Enoch E. [Chamberlain 9], b. Sept. 17, 1878. ..........2. Milley [Chamberlain 9], b. July 21, 1884. ..........3. Volora [Chamberlain 9], b. Aug. 11, 1892. Mrs. Chamberlain , m. 2d, Apr. 14, 1897, John Potter of Vermontville, Mich. 1 child, b. [4. Debbie Laura [Potter], b. Jan. 18, 1898. OPF 418] .....2. Austin [Chamberlain 8] b. Feb. 13, 1857, d. Dec. 8, 1870 [aged about 23 years +] .....3. Lois [Chamberlain 8], b Sept. 24, 1860. .....4. JOHN [Chamberlain 8], b. Feb. 5, 1867, m. Huldah Mildred Merancee [cor Nearance], b. Sept [6], 1869. 3 chil. ..........1. Dom [Chamberlain 9], b. Nov. 26, 1890. ...........2. Ruth [Chamberlain 9], b. Nov. 3, 1892. ..........3. John Ray [Chamberlain 9], b. Aug. 4, 1896. .....5. Jonathan [Fay Jr 7], b. Nov. 1833, d. July 10, 1836. drowned in Huron River, Mich [ Aged about 3 years, 8 months +] [By second wife, Fanny (Swap) Fay:] 6.. HARRIET ELIZABETH [(Fay) Norton 7], b. July 26, 1837; d. Sept. 8, 1887, m. Homer Norton. He d. 3 chil. .....1. EDWIN [NORTON 8], b..., m. Nettie Lowrain. 2 chil. ..........1. Floyd [Norton 9] & ..........2. Vernie [Norton 9] .....JULIA [(Norton) Outhwaite 8], b...., m. Thomas Outhwaite 4 chil. ..........1. Willie [Outhwaite 9] ..........2. John [Outhwaite 9] ..........3. Nettie [Outhwaite 9] ..........4. a dau. [Outhwaite 9] 7. LAURA JANE [(Fay) Burke 7], b. July 14, 1840, m.. Isaac Burke, res. C.[arleton MI?] 2 chil. .....1. Jennie [Burke 8] .....2. Elmer [Burke 8] 8. LORENZO [Fay 7], b. Oct. 10, 1842, m. Elma Julianna Mead, b. Cato, N.Y., May 29, 1848. Agent for sewing machines 1882, Union City, Mich. and in Coldwater, Mich, in 1883. In Quincey, Mich, 1898. 2 chil. .....1. Eleanor Corea [Fay 8], b. Newark, N.Y., Aug. 27, 1873. .....2. Clarence Lorienzo [ Fay 8], b. July 8, 1878. 9. Clarissa M. [Fay 7], b. July 9, 1844. 10. John M. [Fay 7], b. Mar. 17, 1847. President Home Insurance Co., cor.[ner of] Mich. Ave. & Griswold St., Detroit, Mich., m. Lucy Monroe. She d. N.Y. City, Dec. 1892. He m. 2d [?] 3 chil by 1st wife. .....1. Kittie May [Fay 8] .....2. ? ]Fay 8] .....3 ? [Fay 8] 11. EMMA A. [(Fay) Loraine 7], b. Apr. 21, 1849, m. Joseph Loraine, res. Niles, Mich. 3 chil. .....1. Flora [Loraine 8] .....2. Freddie [Loraine 8] .....3. Walter [Lorain 8] 12. BETSEY JANE [(Fay) Lawrie 7], b. Apr. 25, 1857, b [cor m.] William Lawrie. 5 chil. .....1. Carrie [Lawrie 8] .....2-5 4 boys [Lawrie 8] 13. Ann [Fay 7], b. July 21, 1853, d. Oct. 1853 [Infant +] 14. ALBERT JONATHAN [Fay 7], b. July 11, 1854, m. Carrie langston, res. Yipilanti, Mich. 3 chil. .....1. Frank [Fay 8] b. res. Belden, Mich. .....2. Lester [cor. Edith Fay 8] .....3. Jesse [cor .Fannie Fay 8] [OPF, 1898: 418] 15. FANNY COREA [(Fay) Outhwaite 7], b. May 6, 1857, m. Chalres Outhwaite. 3 chil. .....1. Frank [Outhwaite 8] .....2. Lester [Outhwaite 8] .....3. Jesse [Othwaite 8] 16. Elmery Amory [Fay 7], b. June 9, 1861. [Orlin P. Fay, 1898: 69-70; 418] I would really like to get better dates on the offspring of Jonathan Fay 6. This is one of the better places for Michigan Fay's to tie in to Orlin P. Fay's book. Ahnentafel for Jonathan Fay 6 [Opf # 830] [1] Jonathan FAY 6 (OPF # 840)(OPF, 1898: 39; 69-70) [2] David Fay 5 (OPF # 131)(OPF, 1898: 25; 39) [3] Patience HARVEY Fay (OPF, 1898: 39) [4] Capt. Jonathan FAY 4 (OPF # 60)(OPF, 1898: 23; 25; 114) [5] Joanna PHILLIPS Fay (OPF # 60-W1)(OPF, 1898: 25) [8] John FAY III (OPF # 25)(OPF, 1898: 21-22; 23) [9] Hannah CHILD Fay Lyscomb (OPF # 25-W1)(OPF, 1898: 23) [16] John FAY Jr (OPF #2)(OPF, 1898: 19; 21-22) [17] Elizabeth WELLINGTON Fay (OPF #2-W1)(OPF, 1898: 21-22)[Note she goes back on one line to Edward I of England] [32] John FAY Sr/1 [OPF #1](OPF, 1898: 13-15; 16; 19) [33] Mary BRIGHAM Fay (OPF # 1-W1)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 16; 19)(WITB #3)(WITB, 1907: 54; 63-64) [34] Benjamin WELLINGTON (OPF, 1898: 21) [35] Elizabeth SWEETMAN Wellington (OPF, 1898: 21) [66] Thomas BRIGHAM Sr. [WITB #1][WITB, 1907: 33-59)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 19) [67] Mercy HURD BRIGHAM-Rice-Hunt (WITB #1-W1)(WITB, 1907: 33; 50-54)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 19) In the obituary cited earlier,"Old Man FAY," only two of the 16 children of Jonathan Fay seem to have outlived him: His second and third children: Austin and Francis Fay. However, some of the others may have moved away, lost contact with their family, and they may also have outlived their father. The date in the obituary matches the death date given for Jonathan Fay in Orlin P. Fay's book. We seem to have matches for Francis Fay b. 1828, [His wife Charlotte Fay is not named in OPF]. Dr. O. J. Fay is Dr. Orion Jonathan Fay 8, d. 1923. William Fay is given as William Edward Fay 8, in OPF Wilmer Fay may be the son of Austin Fay 7. [ His wife would have been Mary Butler Fay, b. 1871.] Daniel Fay b. 1865 may be the son of Francis Fay 7. Perry C. Fay may be the son of Francis Fay 7. Anna Harryman Fay is probably Anna (Harriman) Fay, wife of William Edward Fay 8, son of Francis Fay 7. [Leo F. Fay 8 is given as one of their sons, d. 1945] Austin Fay b. 1859 is probably Austin Fay Jr. 8, son of Austin Fay Sr. 7 Charles F. Fay may be the son of Francis Fay 7 Note that Enoch A. Chamberlain is a brother-in-law of many of these FAY's. What we really need is a series of the Census for Carleton and Flat Rock, Mich from 1850-1880 and 1900-1920, so that we can verify the birth dates of these families. We could also use the Census listings for the children of the FAY women who married into other surnames. As for John M. Fay's obit, I would look in the Detroit newspapers, as he was the President of Home Insurance Co. in that city. His second wife's name is not known [OPF]. Fanny SWAP Fay may be your land owner.(1818-1885, second wife of Jonathan Fay 6.) She outlived him by two years. I think that there were at least 4 FAY families in Michigan by 1820.(Census of 1820) Many FAY families moved out of New England and New York between 1830 and 1870. I would not jump to conclusions as to how many FAY families are in this area. Without the dates or the gravestone inscriptions, it will be harder to associate the rest of these people. We also need to check the Marriage Register Index for Carleton and Flat Rock, MI for verification of who married whom. Well, I hope this will help those who are working on this line. Keep me posted on what you find. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9

Hi Mary, Welcome back. Hope the move went well. Linda Hogans, Tina Anderson and Linda Kaufman developed a webpage a week or two ago for Jonathon and his Michigan descendants, just click here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/goosehat.html How do you like it? It was really surprising because I went to Monroe on business and had offered to do a little local research in my spare time. I knew Tina was interested because of her post in February.....Linda Hogans had posted to the Fay website guestbook just a day or two before I left Wisconsin....When I got to the Monroe Historical Museum, they had all the obits since the 1790's in little envelopes on the second floor all nicely indexed. I doubt that I spent 30 minutes getting 15-20 obits. I published some of them here......I think Linda Hogans has the rest now. There must still be a lot of unresearched info at that museum on the Fays though. Did you get my note on Harrison K Fay's brother Elijah.......I think I and Barbara Degan may have found him in Burnett township, Dodge county Wisconsin from about 1837-1840, before he moved by his other brother Rice in Elgin Illinois. What do you think about that. That would make him the first settler in Burnet township.........I have quite a bit more info on the Fays in that area at that time. Bob Dear Folks, Concerning the Vol. 00 number 59-60 issue of "Old Man FAY". I think that he is Jonathan Fay 6 [OPF # 830]: (830) JONATHAN [FAY 6], b. Westboro [MA], Jan. 30, 1795, d. Dec. 25, 1883, Exeter, Mich. In 1826, he went to Mich., where all but 2 of his children were born. He was a col. of Militia in Mass., m. Lois King, b. May 31, 1803, d. Apr. 12, 1834. He m., 2d, Oct. 22, 1835, Fanny Swap, b. Aug. 15, 1818, d. Aug. 4, 1885, res. Huron Township, Mich. 16 chil. 2 b. W.[estboro, MA], 5 by 1st wife. [By first wife, Losi (King) Fay:] 1. RUFUS [Fay 7], b. W.[estboro, MA], Apr. 20, 1823. Left home when 18 yrs old. m. 3 wives. Had 4 chil. .....1. A dau. [Fay 8] .....2. Anson [Fay 8] .....3. Villa [Fay 8] .....4. Arcosta [Fay 8] 2. Austin [Fay Sr. 7], b. W.[estboro, MA], Mar. 21, 1825, m. Almira Burke. She d.[ied]. He m. 2d, Mrs. Rosanna Randal. 2 chil. .....1. Austin [Fay Jr 8] & .....2. Wilmer [Fay 8] 3. FRANCIS [Fay 7], b. Sept. 14, 1829, m. res. Carleton, Mich. 9 chil. .....1. Dr. Orion Jonathan [Fay 8], b... .....2. WILLIAM EDWARD [Fay 8], b..., m. Anna Harriman, 3 chil. ..........1. Charlotte [Fay 9] ..........2. Leo [Fay 9] ..........3. a dau. [Fay 9] .....3. LUCRETIA [(FAY)Pryor 8], b...., m. John Pryor .....4. Charles [Fay 8], b.... .....5. LOIS LARINA [(FAY)? 8],b....., m. 2 sons .....6. DANIEL [FAY 8], b.... m. 5 chil. .....7. Jane [Fay 8], b....d.. .....8. ROBERT [Fay 8], b..., m. 2 [cor 3] chil. .....9. PERRY [Fay 8], b.... 4 JULIA ANN [(Fay) Chamberlain Potter 7], b. Feb. 2, 1831, m. July 6, 1851, Enoch A. Chamberlain. A farmer, b. Feb. 6, 1826 [d. June 29, 1898], res. Flat Rock, Mich. 5 chil. .....1. ADRIAN [CHAMBERLAIN 8], b Sept. 22, 1831, d. Fla. Nov. 6, 1893, m. Nov. 15, 1877, Deborah Livingston Downs, b. Nov. 8, 1860 in Huron Township, Mich. 3 chil. ..........1. Enoch E. [Chamberlain 9], b. Sept. 17, 1878. ..........2. Milley [Chamberlain 9], b. July 21, 1884. ..........3. Volora [Chamberlain 9], b. Aug. 11, 1892. Mrs. Chamberlain , m. 2d, Apr. 14, 1897, John Potter of Vermontville, Mich. 1 child, b. [4. Debbie Laura [Potter], b. Jan. 18, 1898. OPF 418] .....2. Austin [Chamberlain 8] b. Feb. 13, 1857, d. Dec. 8, 1870 [aged about 23 years +] .....3. Lois [Chamberlain 8], b Sept. 24, 1860. .....4. JOHN [Chamberlain 8], b. Feb. 5, 1867, m. Huldah Mildred Merancee [cor Nearance], b. Sept [6], 1869. 3 chil. ..........1. Dom [Chamberlain 9], b. Nov. 26, 1890. ...........2. Ruth [Chamberlain 9], b. Nov. 3, 1892. ..........3. John Ray [Chamberlain 9], b. Aug. 4, 1896. .....5. Jonathan [Fay Jr 7], b. Nov. 1833, d. July 10, 1836. drowned in Huron River, Mich [ Aged about 3 years, 8 months +] [By second wife, Fanny (Swap) Fay:] 6.. HARRIET ELIZABETH [(Fay) Norton 7], b. July 26, 1837; d. Sept. 8, 1887, m. Homer Norton. He d. 3 chil. .....1. EDWIN [NORTON 8], b..., m. Nettie Lowrain. 2 chil. ..........1. Floyd [Norton 9] & ..........2. Vernie [Norton 9] .....JULIA [(Norton) Outhwaite 8], b...., m. Thomas Outhwaite 4 chil. ..........1. Willie [Outhwaite 9] ..........2. John [Outhwaite 9] ..........3. Nettie [Outhwaite 9] ..........4. a dau. [Outhwaite 9] 7. LAURA JANE [(Fay) Burke 7], b. July 14, 1840, m.. Isaac Burke, res. C.[arleton MI?] 2 chil. .....1. Jennie [Burke 8] .....2. Elmer [Burke 8] 8. LORENZO [Fay 7], b. Oct. 10, 1842, m. Elma Julianna Mead, b. Cato, N.Y., May 29, 1848. Agent for sewing machines 1882, Union City, Mich. and in Coldwater, Mich, in 1883. In Quincey, Mich, 1898. 2 chil. .....1. Eleanor Corea [Fay 8], b. Newark, N.Y., Aug. 27, 1873. .....2. Clarence Lorienzo [ Fay 8], b. July 8, 1878. 9. Clarissa M. [Fay 7], b. July 9, 1844. 10. John M. [Fay 7], b. Mar. 17, 1847. President Home Insurance Co., cor.[ner of] Mich. Ave. & Griswold St., Detroit, Mich., m. Lucy Monroe. She d. N.Y. City, Dec. 1892. He m. 2d [?] 3 chil by 1st wife. .....1. Kittie May [Fay 8] .....2. ? ]Fay 8] .....3 ? [Fay 8] 11. EMMA A. [(Fay) Loraine 7], b. Apr. 21, 1849, m. Joseph Loraine, res. Niles, Mich. 3 chil. .....1. Flora [Loraine 8] .....2. Freddie [Loraine 8] .....3. Walter [Lorain 8] 12. BETSEY JANE [(Fay) Lawrie 7], b. Apr. 25, 1857, b [cor m.] William Lawrie. 5 chil. .....1. Carrie [Lawrie 8] .....2-5 4 boys [Lawrie 8] 13. Ann [Fay 7], b. July 21, 1853, d. Oct. 1853 [Infant +] 14. ALBERT JONATHAN [Fay 7], b. July 11, 1854, m. Carrie langston, res. Yipilanti, Mich. 3 chil. .....1. Frank [Fay 8] b. res. Belden, Mich. .....2. Lester [cor. Edith Fay 8] .....3. Jesse [cor .Fannie Fay 8] [OPF, 1898: 418] 15. FANNY COREA [(Fay) Outhwaite 7], b. May 6, 1857, m. Chalres Outhwaite. 3 chil. .....1. Frank [Outhwaite 8] .....2. Lester [Outhwaite 8] .....3. Jesse [Othwaite 8] 16. Elmery Amory [Fay 7], b. June 9, 1861. [Orlin P. Fay, 1898: 69-70; 418] I would really like to get better dates on the offspring of Jonathan Fay 6. This is one of the better places for Michigan Fay's to tie in to Orlin P. Fay's book. Ahnentafel for Jonathan Fay 6 [Opf # 830] [1] Jonathan FAY 6 (OPF # 840)(OPF, 1898: 39; 69-70) [2] David Fay 5 (OPF # 131)(OPF, 1898: 25; 39) [3] Patience HARVEY Fay (OPF, 1898: 39) [4] Capt. Jonathan FAY 4 (OPF # 60)(OPF, 1898: 23; 25; 114) [5] Joanna PHILLIPS Fay (OPF # 60-W1)(OPF, 1898: 25) [8] John FAY III (OPF # 25)(OPF, 1898: 21-22; 23) [9] Hannah CHILD Fay Lyscomb (OPF # 25-W1)(OPF, 1898: 23) [16] John FAY Jr (OPF #2)(OPF, 1898: 19; 21-22) [17] Elizabeth WELLINGTON Fay (OPF #2-W1)(OPF, 1898: 21-22)[Note she goes back on one line to Edward I of England] [32] John FAY Sr/1 [OPF #1](OPF, 1898: 13-15; 16; 19) [33] Mary BRIGHAM Fay (OPF # 1-W1)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 16; 19)(WITB #3)(WITB, 1907: 54; 63-64) [34] Benjamin WELLINGTON (OPF, 1898: 21) [35] Elizabeth SWEETMAN Wellington (OPF, 1898: 21) [66] Thomas BRIGHAM Sr. [WITB #1][WITB, 1907: 33-59)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 19) [67] Mercy HURD BRIGHAM-Rice-Hunt (WITB #1-W1)(WITB, 1907: 33; 50-54)(OPF, 1898: 14-15; 19) In the obituary cited earlier,"Old Man FAY," only two of the 16 children of Jonathan Fay seem to have outlived him: His second and third children: Austin and Francis Fay. However, some of the others may have moved away, lost contact with their family, and they may also have outlived their father. The date in the obituary matches the death date given for Jonathan Fay in Orlin P. Fay's book. We seem to have matches for Francis Fay b. 1828, [His wife Charlotte Fay is not named in OPF]. Dr. O. J. Fay is Dr. Orion Jonathan Fay 8, d. 1923. William Fay is given as William Edward Fay 8, in OPF Wilmer Fay may be the son of Austin Fay 7. [ His wife would have been Mary Butler Fay, b. 1871.] Daniel Fay b. 1865 may be the son of Francis Fay 7. Perry C. Fay may be the son of Francis Fay 7. Anna Harryman Fay is probably Anna (Harriman) Fay, wife of William Edward Fay 8, son of Francis Fay 7. [Leo F. Fay 8 is given as one of their sons, d. 1945] Austin Fay b. 1859 is probably Austin Fay Jr. 8, son of Austin Fay Sr. 7 Charles F. Fay may be the son of Francis Fay 7 Note that Enoch A. Chamberlain is a brother-in-law of many of these FAY's. What we really need is a series of the Census for Carleton and Flat Rock, Mich from 1850-1880 and 1900-1920, so that we can verify the birth dates of these families. We could also use the Census listings for the children of the FAY women who married into other surnames. As for John M. Fay's obit, I would look in the Detroit newspapers, as he was the President of Home Insurance Co. in that city. His second wife's name is not known [OPF]. Fanny SWAP Fay may be your land owner.(1818-1885, second wife of Jonathan Fay 6.) She outlived him by two years. I think that there were at least 4 FAY families in Michigan by 1820.(Census of 1820) Many FAY families moved out of New England and New York between 1830 and 1870. I would not jump to conclusions as to how many FAY families are in this area. Without the dates or the gravestone inscriptions, it will be harder to associate the rest of these people. We also need to check the Marriage Register Index for Carleton and Flat Rock, MI for verification of who married whom. Well, I hope this will help those who are working on this line. Keep me posted on what you find. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9 ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

This posting was supplied by Cathy Kubly ************************************************************************* From: CKubly9527@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:26:10 EDT Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots - Name Cemetery Location Reference FAY, Asa New Cem Northborough MA 56 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11999; Volume: 8 FAY, Barnabas School Street Cem Lebanon NH 32 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 9661; Volume: 7 FAY, Benjamin Midland Cem Westboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Elisha Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Ens Joseph Village Cem Walpole NH 25 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 8542; Volume: 4 FAY, Heman Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Hezekiah Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Joseph Walpole NH 16 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 7119; Volume: 6 FAY, Joseph Old Highland Cem Athol MA 45 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 10950; Volume: 13 FAY, Joseph Capt Village Cem Walpole NH 25 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 8542; Volume: 4 FAY, Josiah Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Moses Jr Cuba Cem Cuba, Cattaraugus Co NY 71 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 12978; Volume: 2 FAY, Moses Sr Maplehurst Cattaraugus Co NY 71 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 12978; Volume: 2 FAY, Nathan Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Nathan North Yard Alstead NH 43 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 10772; Volume: 8 FAY, Nathan East Alstead Cem Alstead NH 36 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 10094; Volume: 5 FAY, Peter Old Cem Southboro MA 50 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11507; Volume: 6 FAY, Sherbiah Brookside Cem Watertown NY 41 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 10572; Volume: 12 FAY, Sherebiah Brookside Cem Watertown NY 71 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 12978; Volume: 2 FAY, Stephen Capt Town Hill Cem Bennington VT 42 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 10675; Volume: 7 ================== This file not cleaned up. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Published in the Watertown, Wisconsin Democrat Thursday March 30, 1865 ************************************************************************* A CARD MISS EMMA FAY would like to respectfully announce to the citizens of Watertown, Wisconsin, that she will open her Select School on Monday, the 3rd d. of April next, at the residence of Mrs S. E. Webb on Second Street. She extends to all her sincere thanks for their patronage the past term, and asks all that desire their children to grasp eagerly the golden book of knowledge, and at last drink deep in the crystal fount of education to place them under her instruction. As she brings to her aid some considerable experience in teaching, she feels herself fully competent to render them any assistance which they may require in developing and cultivating their youthful minds. Watertown, March 28th, 1865 ************************************************************************* >From the editorial column of the same issue: SELECT SCHOOL.- By her card in another column, it will be seen that MISS EMMA FAY proposes to open a Select School in the house of Mrs S E Webb on Second Street. Miss Fay is an excellant teacher and we have no doubt will fully meet the expectations of all who put their children under her charge. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Bob...... Couldn't resist sending those manuscript notices - but then realized I clogged up everybody's computers with all those emails!! Hopefully someone will make a real find by having that list....... If I run across the house built by the FAYs, will let you know. You might try the search engine www.infind.com I often find "hard to find" things by using that engine.....good luck! Laura > > Hi Laura, > > I can see what you've been doing today........ > > I saw a website that shows the historic house these Fays built in San > Francisco this morning......and now........can't find it......sigh... > > Bob > > ----Original Message Follows---- > >

June 24, 2000 Laura-- Yes, I'm one of those who found a treasure trove in your recent Library of Congress emails! To know that my greatgreatfrandfather Dr. Warren Fay's medical ledgers are safely preserved in the Pavilion, New York Historical Society was more than I could have dreamed of. Thank you so much. Sabra

I thought that it was time again to ask if anyone out there has a Christopher Fay listed anywhere in their pedigree. He was born in Ogdensborough, NY around 1850. Does anyone know what county Ogdensborough would have been in during that time period. Also, if I may ask people to indicate the State as well as County for information as I am unfamiliar with the Eastern US States being from Western Canada. Thanks alot, Shelly Roach Rainy British Columbia

Laura, Is this Simeon Daniels Fay of Oxford, Wisconsin? Further info and followups at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?simeon::fay::286.html Also, is this William N Fay of Wisconsin that was killed at the Battle of Vicksburg and has one of the few marked graves at the national cemetary there? Further info with followups at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?william::fay::328.html Bob ----Original Message Follows---- From: "LG Greene" <lggreene@earthlink.net> To: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FAY] Simeon FAY Civil War Letters Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:44:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [63.92.80.39] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB1CDE210073D82197B13F5C5027705C0; Fri Jun 23 09:41:05 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5NGe9L01216;Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:40:09 -0700 >From FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Fri Jun 23 09:45:57 2000 Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:40:09 -0700 X-Original-Sender: lggreene@earthlink.net Fri Jun 23 09:40:04 2000 Old-To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <LOBBLHDGJEPNIJEICNFLEENMDNAA.lggreene@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200006162041.e5GKfwR11271@lists3.rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <178aXB.A.xS.nL5U5@lists3.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: FAY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/418 X-Loop: FAY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FAY-L-request@rootsweb.com Author: Fay, Simeon D. Title: Civil War letters, 1862-1866. Description: 0.1 c.f. (1 folder) Notes: Civil War letters of S. D. Fay of Company A, 8th Wisconsin Infantry Regiment while in Alabama and Mississippi, and of William Fay of the 32nd Wisconsin Infantry Regiment while in Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee, both from Oxford, Wis.; discussing their experiences in the military. Presented by Mrs. R. C. Yahnke, 1940. Subjects: United States. Army Wisconsin Infantry Regiment, 8th (1861-1865) United States. Army. Wisconsin Infantry Regiment, 32nd (1862-1865) United States -- History -- Civil War, 1861-1865. Other authors: Fay, William. Location: State Historical Society of Wisconsin. Archives Division. 816 State Street, Madison, Wis. 53706. MAD 4 /14/File 1862 June 2 Control No.: WIHV94-A1618 ============================== Get a MASTERCARD with NO Credit Check or Up Front Cash Security Deposit and GUARANTEED* Approval! NO Interest Rate! http://www.dollarsonthenet.com/cgi-bin/track/1631/19 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com