Dear Jim, I think that your four variant spelling for Apollos Fay are for the same person. The variants were Apollas Fay (1840); Apolos (1830) and Apolus (1850) and Appollos Fay (1860). This person lived in Bronson Township in Huron County, Oh. OPF gives the name as Apollos Fay (a fifth variant spelling). This Apollos Fay is OPF #977 on OPF, 1898: p. 85-86) He is known to have died in Norwalk, OH March 21. 1859. He married Lucy Hussington. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9

Dear Jim, I think that your Elon G. Fay on the 1860 Census Index is Elon Galusha Fay OPF # 359-4 / Sk. # 1103, OPF, 1898: p. 254, 310. He was b. Dec. 13, 1824, m. Oct. 29, 1848 Cynthia HAYMAKER, and m 2d Dec. 4, 1879 Frances HAYMAKER. The HAYMAKER's were sisters. The family ended up in California and ran the Empire Steam Laundry. This is concerning your FAY-D post of Vol. 00 number 68: X-message 5 His older brother Perrin Fay OPF # 359-1 is given as living in Noble Township, Definace Co, OH in (1850) in this same message. We do not have good dates for his children. I haven't found his other siblings in your list yet, but there were a lot of names to check. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9

Hi Bob, I have got the mail! Please unsubscribe famfey@gmx.net ! I have got the posting three times. :-o I think it is better to work with only one adress. ;-) I have got anything from the FAY-List but the FEY-List doesn´t arrive to me! :-( What is going on there? So long ... Hans-Juergen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: FAY LIST <postingsonly@hotmail.com> An: <hans-juergen@famfey.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Juli 2000 20:16 Betreff: Re: {not a subscriber} Anna du Fay / Hanau - Germany > Hi Hans, > > I'm not sure why you're not getting the email...lets see if you get it now. > Let me know...thanks Anything from the list should have [FAY] at the > beginning of the subject line! Thats done automatically by computer. > > Bob

Good afternoon again Fay mail list subscribers, Some months ago I had mentioned that the Fay message boards had been gatewayed to post directly to the Fay mail list. The following is the first example of a message coming from the boards. Also, if anyone or a group would be willing to administer the Fay message boards (there are 5 or 6) please drop me a line at madgrad77@hotmail.com. I have too many irons in the fire and just don't have the time. There is a mail list just for message board administrators so there is plenty of help available. Like many other surname groups we need to integrate the message boards into the website and mail list, as a group of integrated internet resources. This isn't as hard as it sounds, but it takes time, perserverence and commitment. Yet to come from rootsweb are the resources to put up gedcoms. Another big project. Bob Fay ************************************************************************* The Fay Message Board A new message, "Maud Fay," was posted by MIchael Duncan on Fri, 21 Jul 2000 It is a response to "The FAY Family," posted by Pam Carey Durstock on Tue, 18 May 1999 Surname: --- NAME: MIchael Duncan EMAIL: duncanf117@hotmail.com DATE: Jul 21 2000 URL: http:// QRYTEXT: A Maud Fay, possible from MA, married a Samuel McKnight. In the late 1800 - early 1900's. Does anyone have any information.. This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/surnames/f/a/FAY/queries?admin> ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Good afternoon again everyone, Hopefully everyone knows that we have a Fay family website by now, and it is getting bigger and better by the day. It's somewhat of a learning process on figuring out how to best utilize the internet resources rootsweb makes available to us. Many people have contributed enormously to this website, though various ongoing projects, and I hope everyone enjoys and appreciates the effort these individuals put into these projects which often stretch for months, and they never really are finnished. They just keep growing as others contribute material. A relatively new one concerns the Fays of Bennington Vermont, which has interest not only from a perspective of family history, but also to the role these individuals played in the American Revolution, along with Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys, and their role in the formation of the American government through efforts on the Declaration of Independence and other documents of historic importance. As a bit of the learning curve we have added a message board to these pages for everyone interested in this group. Please leave a message if you visit these fascinating webpages which start at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~faywebsite/bennington.html Bob Fay ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Good afternoon everyone, I'm posting a letter from Hans Jurgen to the Fay list. For unknown reasons the computer don't think Hans is a subscriber, but I have added him again. Hans is in Germany, and is researching there. Apparently in Germany the Fay's name is also spelled Fey, Vay, and Vey. I don't know why. Hope this is of help for everyone interested in the German Fay's ************************************************************************* Hello everyone, hi Bob! You might remember my huegenaut idea for the name "Fey" a few month ago. Now I have informations about a woman called Anna "du Fay"! She is mentioned in a book about the oldest families of the hessian city of "Hanau" here in Germany she was born in the year 1637 in Basel, today Switzerland, and was a daughter of Jacob du Fay and Maria de Famars. She was married two times, first with Jakob Balte (February 6th, 1667), who died before 1674. On on February 16th in 1674 she married th second time, her husband was Jaques Cregut, a prayer with huegenaut religion. I think herself must also be huegenaut religion! And I have heard, that in the years after the 30-years-war, many people from Switzerland and other countries have settled in areas of hessia. Because the aborigines were killed and the land was wasted. For the one who can speak german, I put the original Message posted to me, at the end of this posting. My English is not so good, may bee you can use the original text better! :-) <message> Ausserdem, haette ich fast vergessen: hier ein Eintrag ueber die aeltesten Familien in der Neustadt Hanau.Da ist folgendes zu lesen:der 6. Sohn aus der ersten Ehe eines Hans Balte F: Jacob,getauft in Hanau, 1637 Febr.5, gestorben vor 1674, Heirat 1667 Febr. 6 Anna du Fay, die sich in zweiter Ehe zu Hanau 1674,Febr.16 mit dem dortigen wallonischen Pfarrer Jaques Cregut wiedervermaehlte. Sie war 1637 zu Basel geboren und eine Tochter von Jacob du Fay und Maria de Famars.Die f'Famile Balde stammte aus Frankenthal, das muss wohl in der Pfalz sein. Da hatten sich ja auch viele Hugenotten niedergelassen. Ist schon interessant, wie die Namen so ueberall herumgeschwirrt sind. <message/> Greetings from Germany ... Hans-Juergen Fey PS: Please let me make a short question to Bob Fay! What about the Fey-List, I havenŽt got any news since a long time from this list. Can you inform me, if I am still under the subscribbers of this list? Thank you! :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Posted on: The Fay Message Board Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/surnames/f/a/FAY/queries?read=5 Surname: ------------------------- A Maud Fay, possible from MA, married a Samuel McKnight. In the late 1800 - early 1900's. Does anyone have any information.

Morning all, Here's my second installment of the FAY's from the Cuyahoga County, OH marriage index. pardon any butchering your email proggie may and will do to some of these entries. I will follow the format I used with my first installment. More in a few days. Enjoy, Jim SHREVE Sr. NAME VOL PG SPOUSE FAY, Eleanor Marie 370 459 00 KIELOWICZ, Theodore FAY, Elizabeth 136 53 20 NEMECEK, Joseph FAY, Elizabeth 142 476 00 FETTERMAN, Joe HOOBING, Herold LAWRENCE, Adam HEALD, Hollis K JACKSON, Everett J FAY, Ella C 38 372 55 MORAN, B Walter FAY, Ella C 72 259 66 GAVAGAN, Richard FAY, Elsie B 75 295 55 HUTCHINSON, H Wilmott FAY, Elsie G 94 201 77 CASHMAN, William FAY, Elva G 123 267 00 ASBOTH, Vendelin KAPATCH, Lawrenc E THURMAN, William H GROSSMAN, Morris RALPH, Julian A FAY, Emma P 113 148 00 CHRENCIK, Martin HANSEN, Ernest KELLY, Sylvester C GUINNIP, William O HOCEVAR, Frank FAY, Erma C 72 184 33 PANCOAST, Guy El FAY, Ethel L 80 409 22 BAKER, Leon E FAY, Ethel M 96 73 66 CRUICKSHANK, George D FAY, Etta 108 263 33 CHARNEL, Beaura FAY, Eunice 101 276 33 FOOTE, Louis B FAY, Fannie 87 153 24 MCDONNELL, Frank FAY, Florence G 89 441 22 KUHN, Max J FAY, Florence M 67 267 29 BURNS, Wm FAY, Frances 913 1852 00 KWIATKOWSKI, Robert J FAY, Gertrude 141 131 00 BROMELMEIER, Edwin J FORTNEY, Ross S LOMAS, Charles CONWAY, Walter HORNE, Ottis J FAY, Gertrude M 70 145 88 MORAN, James W FAY, Goldie 63 11 66 MORDAUNT, Robert T FAY, Grace 569 374 00 DMYTRIW, Raymond E - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- FAY, Edgar B 23 14 02 HOFFMAN, Dora M FAY, Edward 33 377 74 FREY, Annie FAY, Edward H 910 1142 00 OATEY, Mary Jane FAY, Edward J 200 23 81 DORCHOCK, Veronica M FAY, Edward L 834 460 00 SEGUIN, Ruthanne V FAY, Eli 5 122 01 TAYLOR, Huldah FAY, Eli 12 299 00 ABBOTT, Emily DUNHAM, Betsey E JANES, Lizzie ADAMS, Lillie D GHORPE, Lucy A SHNITER, Elisaheth FAY, Eli 28 363 81 RAGEN, Daisey FAY, Elmer J 179 126 01 ALAIMO, Frances FAY, Eugene 184 146 88 WALSER, Gladys FAY, Floyd W 107 50 88 POKORNY, Belle A FAY, Frank 161 25 29 REYNOLDS, May FAY, Franklin 12 207 00 BAMUM, Emma J HOLLISTER, Mary E KING, Matilda J CRAWFORD, Illinois JAMES, Rebecca MEESE, Dora FAY, Fred 122 36 33 HRUBY, Caroline FAY, Gary L 739 284 00 STACEY, linda C FAY, George 839 98 00 WIDMAR, Ursuline FAY, George A 164 344 89 KAZAN, Ann FAY, George J 141 358 00 GOHR, Helen E O'DONNELL, Mary WARD, Julia KORESMAROS, Helen STILLWELL, Ethel M FAY, George W 70 100 77 URBAN, May H FAY, George W III 907 1886 00 IACOFANO, Jeanette FAY, Gilbert 519 333 00 SILVESTRO, Florence

Morning all, Here are some more of actual FAY census entries that as of yet, do not fit in as a descendent as Benajah F FAY (OPF 95) I noticed the butchering the email proggie did with my last emails, so pardon the butchering if you please. Enjoy, Jim SHREVE Sr. 1870 Brooklyn Heights, Cuyahoga County, Ohio Federal Census this household was the infirmary, many, many people there FAY, Mary A 62 F W Canada Father & Mother of foreign birth Insane 1880 Ward 18 Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio Federal Census Dwelling 384 Family 413 TOOMEY, Dennis W M 35 married Iron Mill 1 mon. unemployed cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland , Mary W F 25 wife married Keep House cannot read/write MA Ireland Ireland , John W M 6 son OH Ireland MA , Mary W F 4 daugh. OH Ireland MA , Winifred W F 2 daugh. OH Ireland MA CAMPBELL, Thomas W M 23 boarder single Laborer 1 mon unemp. OH Ireland too faded to read FLYNN, Patrick W M 27 boarder single Laborer 1 mon unemp. IN Ireland too faded to read FORD, Edward W M 33 boarder married laborer 1 mon unemp. cannot read/write NY too faded too faded FAY, Martin W M 50 father-in-law widowed Laborer cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland , Michael W M 15 bro-in-law single Iron Mill 5 mon unemp. OH Ireland Ireland , Martin W M 13 bro.-in-law single Iron Mill 4 mon unemp. OH Ireland Ireland Dwelling 649 Family 689 FAY, Frank W M 35 married Laborer 4 months unemployed cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland , Ann W F 34 wife married Keeping House cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland , Bridget W F 6 daugh. Ohio Ireland Ireland MONALY, Michael W M 18 nephew single Laborer cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland , Mary W F 13 niece single At House cannot read/write Ireland Ireland Ireland

Dear Mary : I haven't posted my family line for quite a while. Levi Fay is my GGGrandfather, according to the 1850 Iowa Census he was listed head of the household, and gave his place of birth as Penn. he was born 1824. I have the marriage record of Levi Fay and Sarah Ann Merrill , married in 1848 in Vevay, Switzerland Co. Ind. I have information that his Father was Joseph Fay born about 1780/90 this is where I have hit a dead-end, no information about where Josepph was from. No I don't live near Penn. I live way west in Arizona so as you can see I have to do all my research by long-distance. I do have access to the LDS Family History Library but for some reason we can't find a record of Joseph (wife Martha?) so I am having to rely on census records ect. I appreciate your interest and help. Margaret Pincock

Kwerb, I'm desperately seeking a PATRICK FAY, but mine is from Antrim, Ireland, emigrating to NY State in 1840. Anybody else with a Patrick Fay of that vintage? Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <KWERB5@aol.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:27 AM Subject: [FAY] Fays out of Tennessee > Hello, > > I am a Fay, descending from John Earl Fay, b 1880, Shelbyville, Bedford > county, TN. > His father, Robert Emmet Fay, b 1846, & d in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN. > Robert Emmit Fay's father, Patrick Fay was b 1814 in Galway Ireland, > immigrated to the US in1837, m Ann Donalon here in the states in1845 and d > 1900 in Shelbyville, TN. Is there anyone researching this Fay family? > > kwerb5@aol.com > > kwerb5@aol.com > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM

Barb & Kawerb....... I, too, am looking for a Patrick Fay. All I know of him is that he was in the Cumberland, MD area in 1846 and left there probably within the next year or so to go to the Falls Church, VA area. He was married to Ann Farrell who was a sister of my great grandmother Catherine Farrell Byrne. Pat

Hello, I am a Fay, descending from John Earl Fay, b 1880, Shelbyville, Bedford county, TN. His father, Robert Emmet Fay, b 1846, & d in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN. Robert Emmit Fay's father, Patrick Fay was b 1814 in Galway Ireland, immigrated to the US in1837, m Ann Donalon here in the states in1845 and d 1900 in Shelbyville, TN. Is there anyone researching this Fay family? kwerb5@aol.com kwerb5@aol.com

Hi Everybody; I just spent the day at the Family History Library in Mesa, Az. No Luck in a way, I stand to be corrected on some of my info on Joseph Fay; I found him in Penn. in the 1830 census but then from there I lost him until I went to the Indianna 1840 census but I still didn't find info on his family, Thanks to you Jim I found the Geneology book you recommended at the Deseret Book Store in Mesa and have been brousing thru it since I got home, I think it is great and hope to use some of its suggestions in my research. Goodnight and Good luck in hunting. Margaret Pincock

Dear Family and Friends: Please just keep posting data; post in whatever form is convenient for you. Thank you for all the wonderful contributions. Linda To Mary (FAY) Nelson: If you would look on the Fay Family website, you would find all of the data put up in the form you prefer. I do not have it ALL yet; it does take time to do, and I do not have more than 24 hours a day. But I am doing it, and, I think, doing it well. There are many things on the website that are good. Perhaps it is high time you looked, rather than asking for different format on the list. I myself am happy indeed to see people posting to the list: I can change the format to what I myself want. I just need the data. Linda Fay Kaufman

Dear Folks, Would you please record Census Index Book or Census Index Card entires horizontally rather than vertically: For Example: "FAY, Richard W. Chatham County, GA Savannah " or "FAY, RIchard W. / Chatham Co./ GA / Savannah" [In the later case the / line indicates line breaks. The horizontal stack take up considerably less space on the FAY-D list than putting the same information vertically: Please do NOT stack the material this way: "FAY RICHARD W. Chatham Co., GA Savannah" The vertical stack takes up 6 times or more space in the FAY-D. list in terms of printing it out on paper to work with it in my other programs. I really do appreciate all the good work that you are doing to get new material to all the rest of the FAY family. Please do not redo what was already in the FAY-D-Digest Vol. 00, No. 68. Just be a little more careful about future entries. Sincerely, Mary (FAY) Nelson 9

Hi! thanks Jim for the reply and the information I will see if I can find the book you recommend. My line of Fays is like looking for a needle in a haystack so I am searching every source I can. I appreciate your response and hope to communicate again soon. Margaret Pincock

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Morning, Thanx for the response. I've amassed a lot of info in my search for descendents of Benajah F FAY, going back about a year. In answer to some of your questions, I have access to all the state census up to 1840, I believe, where I do most of my research. I do not know, however, which states are indexed at the library. If Pennsylvania is indexed I can check the 1830 census for you. Same goes for other states. In regards to the lack of info on the census prior to 1850, I'm afraid that on the Federal Census, all they initially wanted was head of households, and numbers of persons in certain age groups and sexes. It wasn't until 1850 when they started asking for names of others living in a household. The more recent the census the more info they ask for. Case in point, on the 1880 Federal Census, they ask for birthplaces of parents as well. 1880 was also the year the Federal Census started asking for relationship to head of household. For Ohio, 1880 is the last year which is indexed. I cannot say whether various State Census asked for more info than the Federal Census did. The State of Ohio is one of the states that does not and did not do a State Census. I am sure there are others here who help explain more about the census, but I recommend "The Genealogists Companion & Sourcebook" by Emily Croom. It has a whole section just on the census, with the copies of the forms. I just picked up the book myself two days ago.. Hope that explains some, Jim SHREVE Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Pincock" <mpincock@casagrande.com> To: <FAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: [FAY] Census > Jim is doing such a great job reporting his serches on the census records, I wish he had access to the Penn 1830, Mo. 1820-50 > Iowa !850. I have a question; in the NY and O. Census in the early 1830-50 does the records show the head of the household. > If so I noticed a Levi Fay listed and wondered where he reported his birth-place, also I saw a Martha listed I am searching for the family of Joseph Fay in which Martha is assumed the mother and Levi is a son. We had Joseph and family in Penn about 1830 but it doesn't list names just numbers but on a later census in Iowa Levi lists his place of birth as Penn.Hopefully you can answer some in my questions. Keep up the great work Jim. > Margaret Pincock

Jim is doing such a great job reporting his serches on the census records, I wish he had access to the Penn 1830, Mo. 1820-50 Iowa !850. I have a question; in the NY and O. Census in the early 1830-50 does the records show the head of the household. If so I noticed a Levi Fay listed and wondered where he reported his birth-place, also I saw a Martha listed I am searching for the family of Joseph Fay in which Martha is assumed the mother and Levi is a son. We had Joseph and family in Penn about 1830 but it doesn't list names just numbers but on a later census in Iowa Levi lists his place of birth as Penn.Hopefully you can answer some in my questions. Keep up the great work Jim. Margaret Pincock