I apologize, but this is going to be a long one so I will send it in two different sections. That way some of you out there can look over what I have and hopefully see if anything clicks with you. About a week ago I found new information on my Farris Line. Up until then, I was only back as far as Gilbert Harmon Farris, my G. Grandfather. I now have found him living with Isom Farris. (have seen it spelled Esom, Isam, Isham) I am wondering if this was his father or grandfather, as he is fairly old. There are conflicting ages for Nancy in the two censuses I found, but that was normal sometimes. I don't think Nancy can be their mother, as she would have been 50 when Gilbert was born. My question is. . . Who are Isom & Nancy? They are living with Gilbert & his wife Catherine Polite Farris and their family in 1860. They must have died before 1870, as I can't find them anywhere then. Need any information out there! I think they must be his grandparents, due to their age. If that is the case, then who was Gilbert's father? Also, Who is Amanda Collins? I can't find Dudley any later either. I have found a Dudley Farris, but nothing seems to fit with mine. I seem to be the only relative of this line out there researching backwards, as everyone I find is just going forward - adding marriages, births and deaths. HELP - There has to be someone out there that is researching the same family! 1. ISOM (ISHAM, ISAM)1 FARRIS1,2. Born Abt. 1791 in Kentucky. It is believed that the children listed are from a previous marriage of Isom, as Nancy would have been over the age of 50 when the listed children were born. Or they may possibly be their grandchildren. 1850 Illinois Census, Macon Twn, Macon County. Pg 156 Farm land value Born Isom Farris 60yrs. $1500 Ky Can't read or write Nancy Farris 70yrs. Tenn Can't read or write Gilbert H. Farris 21yrs. Labor Ind Can't read or write Dudley Farris 19yrs. Laborer Ind William J. Farris 17yrs. Laborer Ind Amanda J Collins 19yrs Ohio 1860 Missouri Census, Greencastle Twn., Sullivan County. Pg 781 Isom Farris 69yrs. Blacksmith $5400 Ky Can't read or write Nancy Farris 84yrs. Tenn Can't read or write Gilbert Farris 35yrs. Farmer Tenn Can't read or write Catherine Farris 20yrs. Domestic Ill Nancy C. Farris 5yrs. Mo William J. Farris 2yrs. Mo James Farris 25yrs Farmhand Ind (James is probably a brother to Gilbert?) In researching Land Patent records the following record was found: Certificate # 11498 for Isham Farris of Sullivan Co., Missouri. Land Patent recorded in the Milan Land Office on August 1, 1857. Children (or grandchildren) of ISOM FARRIS and UNKNOWN are: i. DUDLEY2 FARRIS, b. Abt.1831. ii. WILLIAM J FARRIS, b. Abt.1833. iii. JAMES FARRIS, b. Abt. 1835. iv. JOSEPH FARRIS, b. Abt. 1823. 2. v. GILBERT HARMON FARRIS, b.September 02, 1829, , , Indiana. Continued in next email. . . .