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    1. Y-DNA Update of FARIS/FARRIS/FERRIS/PHARRIS/etc. Surname Study -- What We Have Learned Thus Far
    2. John A Farris
    3. Y-DNA Update of FARIS/FARRIS/FERRIS/PHARRIS/etc. Surname Study -- What We Have Learned Thus Far I am pleased to report that we now have 15 male participants and they all have received their unique Y-DNA results. The results for all 43 markers for each of our 15 participants are posted for all to see at <<< www.ybase.org >>> under the surname of FARRIS. We also have several others considering joining our study. We hope that they will join us soon. We also benefit from a posting of a FARRIS who did not participate in our study and has posted his results for 37 Y-DNA markers. He does not match any of our 15 results. But we expect that as more join our study we will find a match for him. We have so far identified nine unique lines that have come to the USA from Europe. If you add the Y-DNA study that has been done independently on the FERRISS surname, that raises the number of unique lines by five to a total of 14. To review these five results on the FERRISS surname, please refer to <<< www.FerrissUSA.com <http://www.ferrissusa.com/> >>>. Actually one of the five participants has the surname of FERRIS. It needs to be emphasized that our combined Y-DNA results shows that there is no connections among any of these 14 branches. Indeed, we have several different Haplogroups, which means that these groups were not even related as far back as the last ice age – about 12,000 years ago. This FERRISS surname study did not use very many Y-DNA markers (12 markers for four of the five postings & 32 for the remaining participant). Twelve markers are sufficient to show that there are no matches, but insufficient to show that a common ancestor exists. It is possible that participants 2 & 3 are related (one mutation apart for 12 markers), but they would need to have a lot more Y-DNA markers tested to prove it. This is why we chose to use 43 markers for our program. It provides the most accurate conclusions possible. We also have a helpful posting of the 25 marker Y-DNA results from a FURGESON who thinks that some of our surnames are derived from his surname. However, as yet, there have been no Y-DNA matches. But, such a match could occur as we get more participants. Of the 15 participants in our program, we have three variations of our surname represented: FARIS, FARRIS & FERRIS. We have already shown a DNA connection between one FERRIS and four other participants with the surname of FARRIS. These five are all descended from Ian Esom Farris. Since over 50 spelling variations have been identified, it is expected that as we gain more participants we will also cover more of the various spellings. Even though our Y-DNA surname study is still small we have already demonstrated the dramatic power of Y-DNA results. As most of you know, one of the best-researched FARRIS lines is that of Ian Esom Farris (b. ca 1640 in Rutherglen, Scotland & m. Emily Jane Cameron in1663 & d. ca 1679/1680 in NC). We have three participants who were already sure of their connection to this ancestor, and their Y-DNA results showed a good match. However, we have found through our study two more branches connected to this same ancestor, and these participants were unaware of this connection prior to the matching of the Y-DNA results. Indeed, one of them matched 100%, 43 for 43 markers. Now they can work in a very focused way to find where their branch connects. We have recently connected two other branches with each other via a 42 out of 43 marker match indicating one mutation from a common ancestor. And these two participants were previously unaware that they were related. Now their task is to find their common ancestor. As you can imagine, this can be very exciting for the participants involved in such a new and unexpected Y-DNA match. See my complete analysis of the 17 posted results at the end of this posting. We will have more of these break-throughs as we gain more participants. If you are a male with the FARIS/FARRIS/FERRIS/PHARRIS/etc. surname, please join us and help out our study. To join our study, please go to <<< www.dnaheritage.com/oracle/join.asp?GroupUnique=873562776 >>> and follow the instructions to order your sample kit. It is a simple, fast, and painless test. It costs $189. If you are a female related to a male with our FARRIS/etc. surname, please talk him into participating. If you can, even offer to help pay for the tests. Three of our 15 participants have women as my point of contact. I was asked by a participant to give step-by-step instructions on how to get each set of Y-DNA results from <<< www.ybase.org >>>. This will allow you to do your own analysis of the results. The steps are: 1. On the Internet connect to the WEB Site (URL) called: <<< www.ybase.org <http://www.ybase.org/> >>>. 2. Select the “Surname” option button on the lower right side. 3. Type into the blank the surname: “Farris”. 4. This summary page will show you all results that have been posted to date – which now covers 100% of our 15 participants plus two more. 5. You can print this summary page by hitting the keys “Control & P” at the same time, then hit “Enter”. 6. Go to the left hand column called “Record ID” and left click on the first ID # which is “TFDU3”, and the DNA results for that participant will come up along with any other data that participant submitted. In most cases you will find useful information under “First known ancestor (direct paternal line):”. 7. You can print the results of step # 5 by hitting the keys “Control & P” at the same time, then hit “Enter”. 8. Repeat for each Record ID # and you will have all 17 results. 9. Compare all of the Y-DNA results for each of the 43 markers & draw your own conclusions. I hope this works for all of you. If not, send me an EMAIL with your questions. My analysis: A. If you print out the Ybase results summary page (step 5 above), you can number the results from 1 to 17 going from top to bottom. B. The following three groups are related within the group but not to each other: 6 & 11 (new) 4, 8 & 9 (9 = me) 2, 5, 7, 12 & 14 As you would expect, each of the members of the three groups has the same Haplogroup assignments within that group. However the Haplogroup assignments do not have to agree between different groups. The Haplogroups for these three groups are: I1a R1b3* I1a C. The remainder seven Y-DNA results have no matches yet: 1, 3, 10, 13, 15, 16 & 17 This is why it is so important to get more participants. D. Also the missing Haplogroup assignment for #3 is I1c and for #14 is I1a. These need to be added by the participant owners to this database. I do not have the Haplogroup for #17. If you do your own analysis and come to different conclusions than mine, please share them with all of us. If you can join us, please do so soon so that we can increase the number of matches and their resultant break-throughs. Best wishes, John Coordinator of the Y-DNA Study for the FARIS/FARRIS/FERRIS/PHARRIS/etc. Surname John A. Farris Albuquerque, NM, USA JohnAFarris@comcast.net <mailto:JohnAFarris@comcast.net>

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