also my mothers family were Todd's and Roberts who also were descendents of ireland...now if this isnt a headache, i dont know what is.....nevertheless i will keep trying.....hopefully in less than 30 days my familytreemaker will be out on the net...i sent it, then maybe some name or area will ring a bell to others who are looking....most of my family came to texas before daddy was born (before 1898)....but they did come from missouri.......thnx mary