Hi Gang! I totally agree with Carole about the surname spelling! We have been researching quite a bit and there are tons of different spellings used, sometimes several different versions in the same document. I have ruled possibilities out due to spelling difference, and regretted it down the road. You need to consider the times, the backgrounds, the nationalities, the literacy and such when you look at the spelling variations. Gail

Please excuse my accidental posting to the list about the Todds. That as supposed to go only to Mary. -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Julie Clifton Laughner [mailto:DrClifton@doctor4u.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:49 AM To: FARRIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [FARRIS-L] Re: FARRIS-D Digest V99 #80 Weused to think we were related to Mary Todd Lincoln, but now we're not so sure. There's a great book on the Todds by Nancie Todd Weber. She wrote about our clan, who came to Lawrence & Monroe Counties, IN, and then on to other places. Julie -----Original Message----- From: JPharissra@aol.com [mailto:JPharissra@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 10:06 AM To: FARRIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FARRIS-L] Re: FARRIS-D Digest V99 #80 Hi Mary...again My son in law is a TODD..(black).....my youngest daughter and him are separaeted and have been for many years now...I saw in this months Ancestry mag., an article on Present Lincolns wife ..Mary TODD LINCOLN....very interesting....are you related to that TODD..?....jenell ==== FARRIS Mailing List ==== Your Support Keeps RootsWeb Free! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html ==== FARRIS Mailing List ==== You may search the Farris-L archives on the Rootsweb web site at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl In the surname field, type in Farris

Weused to think we were related to Mary Todd Lincoln, but now we're not so sure. There's a great book on the Todds by Nancie Todd Weber. She wrote about our clan, who came to Lawrence & Monroe Counties, IN, and then on to other places. Julie -----Original Message----- From: JPharissra@aol.com [mailto:JPharissra@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 10:06 AM To: FARRIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FARRIS-L] Re: FARRIS-D Digest V99 #80 Hi Mary...again My son in law is a TODD..(black).....my youngest daughter and him are separaeted and have been for many years now...I saw in this months Ancestry mag., an article on Present Lincolns wife ..Mary TODD LINCOLN....very interesting....are you related to that TODD..?....jenell ==== FARRIS Mailing List ==== Your Support Keeps RootsWeb Free! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Well , just thought i would let you know, just in case you did not know...good luck..jenell

Yes, Ferris is a Syrian/Lebanese name also. The only other Ferris family in my hometown was NOT Irish, but Syrian. Ms. Ferris Texas -----Original Message----- From: PFARRIS01@aol.com <PFARRIS01@aol.com> To: FARRIS-L@rootsweb.com <FARRIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [FARRIS-L] Re: FARRIS-D Digest V99 #80 |anyway this guy is tracing the name back to Lebenon. He says some Lebenise |came to the britian with the Romans to battle England . anyway he is getting |documentation on the name coming from Lebenon ??? [snip] |Pete

Mary, try the maps on this 'links' page. Hope they help: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/7577/3-links.html Barb in Waterloo, IL

One thing you could do is contact the cemetery of where they are buried & ask for a copy of their burial records. Then contact the funeral home & do the same. And then by this time you will have where they died at (if you don't know already) & get their death certificates. Alli Debihula@aol.com wrote: > Hi, My name is Debi Smallwood Brimmer and my Farris line is through my mother > and my brickwall is on William O. Farris. I have found tons of info about the > Rings...next to nothing about William O. > > William O. (Oat, Otis, Oade?) Farris, b. 1872 (Saltville, VA), d. 1953 > +Mary Ella (Ellen?) Ring > children were: Bob, Harry, Charlie, Dolyn, Lolyn, Anna (married William > Carroll), Flora, Gaye, Ida and my grandfather, Willie Russell Farris > Willie Russell b. 1-17-1905 , d. 1980 > + Lydia Margaret Keene > children: Edward Paul, Albert, Ida, Ella Lou, Ralph, Otis, and Yvonne > Christine (my mother) > > William O. and Mary Ella are buried in the Ring Family Cemetary, Russell > County, VA. I don't know whether William was born in Russell, Smyth or > Washington County. > > Family rumours say that William's parents were not married but had the same > last name. His mother is supposed to have died around 1930 and his father is > rumoured to have gone to Texas. > > I just know that one of you wonderful Farris searchers has this brickwall just > ready for me to knock down! Thanks, Debi > > ==== FARRIS Mailing List ==== > You may search the Farris-L archives on the Rootsweb web site at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > In the surname field, type in Farris

If you check the Oklahoma surname list on the web you'll find a guy I can't remember his name but he's tracking Ian Esom Farris and went back to Ireland tracking this guy, I also found what he found that Farris doesn't show up as a surname of Ireland, 1 or 2 Ferris in scotland and maybe the same in England , anyway this guy is tracing the name back to Lebenon. He says some Lebenise came to the britian with the Romans to battle England . anyway he is getting documentation on the name coming from Lebenon ??? If you bring up Irsh surnames on the web Farris/Faris/Faries/Ferris isn't there ? Maybe I'm wrong but worth checking out Pete

Happy Saint Patricks Day to all my "Irish" researchers out there! May he bless you all, with love, luck and good health.....and may the little people sings only songs of joy in your ears........ Carole :}

Hi Gang :} I will continue to look for that triangle (Mason Dixon Line); it was one of those things, that I was surfin round and stumbled over....let me go back in my notes and see what I can find. (I have no idea what I saved it under in my bookmarks!!!!) Meanwhile: http://jefferson.village.edu/vshadow2/reference.html Check out this site, it is really interesting....Civil War information and is updated constantly. Good research site for all. Faries, was to have come from the name FARRIER-worker of metals. There was to be an armorer for Mary Queen of Scots, who was Faries line. I am so glad that we are all working together with this.....as I am sure that we will get the "root family core" sooner or later. I am hopeful that we can get "pen pals" in Ireland and England as the net expands. The Canada connection sounds great also...... hang in there gang, we will crack this nutt before ya know it! Gail and I are hopefully on the "research road" again in the next few weeks to gather and explore the family roots in Delaware....... Carole :}

Dear all, I have put together a plan to help people (myself included!) locate the home shire of their British ancestors. Be advised: the approach will not work 100% of the time, but it will work very well in cases where the surname is particularly uncommon (e.g. Dillard, Templeton) and provide several good clues if the surname isn't Jones, Smith, Baker or something else exceedingly common. If you are interested in knowing more about this, please email privately. All the best, Don Haynie _________________________________ Dr Donald T. Haynie Department of Biomolecular Sciences UMIST PO Box 88, Manchester M60 1QD England Tel: +44 (0) 161 200 8919 Fax: +44 (0) 161 236 0409 _________________________________

Mary writes: >it just seems to me that all of came from ireland. Most, probably; all, not necessarily. Reason: 'Faris' and its numerous variants are very common surnames on both sides of the little pond. That is, there are loads of them in Scotland and the north of England, and loads in Northern Ireland. Undoubtedly, most of those in Northern Ireland went there during the plantation of Ulster, a policy implemented by James I of Great Britain (formerly James VI of Scotland). These people, so-called Scotch-Irish, were mainly presbyterians. Many tens of thousands of them emigrated to America before the Revolution. Considering the meaning of the surname, it is unlikely that all Farises descend from a single Faris progenitor. There were probably multiple Faris emigrations from Scotland to Northern Ireland. Don Haynie _________________________________ Dr Donald T. Haynie Department of Biomolecular Sciences UMIST PO Box 88, Manchester M60 1QD England Tel: +44 (0) 161 200 8919 Fax: +44 (0) 161 236 0409 _________________________________

Hi Mary...again My son in law is a TODD..(black).....my youngest daughter and him are separaeted and have been for many years now...I saw in this months Ancestry mag., an article on Present Lincolns wife ..Mary TODD LINCOLN....very interesting....are you related to that TODD..?....jenell

Hi Mary..... I agree with you on the Farriss/Phariss & etc, spellings....My spelling is with the "PH"...and mine also is CA.(where i am now)-TX-MO-ARK-TN-VA-and some cousins are in OKL...we are stuck at Samuel Phariss 1742 VA....I am begining to think that some of the Farris/Fariss spellings also belong....BUT>>>>makeing that connection is the hard part...as you said, all of these Farriss/Phariss's all seem to come from the same area and were all in the same states......I think i may be able to make a break through, on my line, if i would consider the other spelling more.......just wanted to give yoiu my in put.......and good luck on your research...jenell from central CA

Welcome Farris/Phariss reseachers...jenell

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carole i have tried to find the old maps on the net but not having any luck....how did you find them......i am most interested in the missouri info....in some old letters, i found once missouri was called the territory of louisiana...just makes no sense to me....please help me to find your old maps........thx much mary

also my mothers family were Todd's and Roberts who also were descendents of ireland...now if this isnt a headache, i dont know what is.....nevertheless i will keep trying.....hopefully in less than 30 days my familytreemaker will be out on the net...i sent it, then maybe some name or area will ring a bell to others who are looking....most of my family came to texas before daddy was born (before 1898)....but they did come from missouri.......thnx mary

pete it just seems to me that all of came from ireland. at least i know yrs ago my father told me we did. and we came from missouri. so it seems to me that all of us are cuzins from the beginning.....from there is is truly a mystery. it just seems we are still cousins, although no one knows how we got to where we are today.....what i cant understand is, before i came along, my father was married before, those children spelled farris with one s, then my brother and i from the same father have 2 s's at the end.....since daddy and mama have passed there is no family to tell me why in 1920-1956 the farriss's had to change the spelling and cconfuse us kids so much.....it is hard enough trying to find boundaries to counties etc, but when and why the spelling changed is also a mystery........so i am just trying to find anyone who knows Cowan, Willie Rush, Vernie, maybe Doyle, or Vestal (from calif, my stepbrother-who has also passed away). and willie rush had a wife named nettie chennault....i know they are real, have really old pictures of them when daddy (vernie) was a baby......this has to be the hardest thing we have ever done.......thx much mary

Please join me in welcoming some new members to our list: rtissier@htc.net mikes1@cybertrails.com nodtap@midwest.net Debihula@aol.com jewlsgene@juno.com RFarris@ENERGY.TWC.com DLantis@aol.com If you haven't done so already, we hope you will introduce yourselves and tell us about the family you are researching! Wanda Rabb (researching Rabb (NC/SC), Penix (NC), Bradshaw (VA>NC), (Gantt (NC), Nix, Robertson, Wilson, Conner, Harris (Rutherford Co.,NC), Laws(Yancey, Rutherford Co., NC), Edwards,Kelly (Yancey Co.,NC), Causby, Patton, Morrison, Sparks(Burke/McDowell Co., NC) Paxton (Union Co., NC >Lancaster, SC), Purviance (NC), Farris & Morris (York Co., SC) Lovelace, Hamrick, Green and McSwain (Cleveland Co., NC), Granger, Ledford, Black(Cleveland or Rutherford Co., NC), Towery (Cleveland or Lincoln Co., NC) Listmanager for CAUSBY-L, FARRIS-L, LAWS-L, NIX-L, PAXTON-L, PURVIANCE-L, RABB-L Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/1882/