Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >> for the definition of Assume" that the person died? What you are saying by using a "bef" date for a death date is that the person could have died right after birth up until the before date you have entered. My suggestion is leave it blank or use an about date. If someone tells you Harry died about 1956 enter "abt 1956" but if they tell you he died before 1956 and you put "bef 1956" When before 1956 in 1946, 1936, 1926 1916?????. OK, Thats my two cents worth. Bob Rose<< In my view <abt> is more misleading, as it suggests you have a basis for what date you say. <bef> as I record it has some basis, i.e., a widow's death notice, a sibling's death notice. Typically an infant death time is known if the birth time is known. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH [email protected]