I might as well add my two cents too. I would like to see the women featured in reports, specifically the book. I'm not saying this very well. When I create a book, I see a male Spangler as the first entry for each generation. For my girls, I'd like to create a book with their mother, and all her children, next generation her mother, next generation her mother... Like that. Maybe that's already something I can do by building a custom report, but I haven't found out how on my own. At least not with the nice prose style of the book. I'm also not running version nine, so maybe the point is moot. Thanks for listening. Guy R Spangler, Database Administrator, University of Arkansas USMailNet: 2801 S University Ave FH211, Little Rock AR 72204 InterNet: grspanlger@ualr.edu, AT&TNet: 501-569-8705 WWW: http://www.ualr.edu/~grspangler/