No more work than moving your main database! ----Original Message Follows---- From: Don Wright <donwright@footprints.org> To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:28:25 -0800 I agree.... Although I will be switching to RM, I will still have and no doubt use FO as I have many databases that I converted to FO from my PAF days. My primary database will move to RM but it would be too much work to move all the rest. I vote to keep them separate. I have subscribed to both user groups and will continue to read both. User since version 3.? DonWright@footprints.org Webmaster of http://footprints.org "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus" ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. E. Golden" <legolden@pldi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > My two cents: > I believe both lists, FOW and RootsMagic, should continue as separate and individual lists. > Many will continue to use FOW, even if they also purchase and use RM. Then some will continue to use FOW exclusively, and some will use both programs. > To me it would be mixing Apples & Oranges. > I vote to keep the lists unique to the programs. > Larry > [User Since V.4.0] ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ Anne (Percival) Kruszka _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kruszka" <acpercival@hotmail.com> To: <donwright@footprints.org>; <family-origins-users-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > > No more work than moving your main database! You are right.... but.... I have about 300 databases that I refer to now and then. Many times I have added new names, then found connections in some of the older databases. If I find a connection on one of them, they will be moved, so I can compare the information on the split window of RM. DonWright@footprints.org Webmaster of http://footprints.org "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus"

I am quite knew to this LIST but not knew to genealogy. At present I have close to 2000 names and 430 marriages with numerous photos and notes in my Family Tree Maker version 10 data base. Since I joined this LIST I have heard positive comments related to FOW10 as well as the Rootsmagic software. I have exported my FTM data to the FO V3, (for a trail run) which I have had previously to adopting the FTM 10. Thus I am not totally strange to the FO software. Is there anyone out there that has experience with the FTM as well as the FOW10 that can give any advice on the benefits of FOW over FTM? Any comments will be appreciated. Fred

Fred, I have both FO and FTM and believe me the only thing I every got from FTM was the research used to be better than it is any more. But as far as working with FTM I found it harder and more cumbersome than any and harder to do anything with. Whereas the FO was so much simpler to operate and done so much more with better looking forms. One thing used to do a lot of Gedcom and as you should know it is not simple with FTM and in fact most users still don't know how to do it. Whereas with FO it is even one of the simple operations. Also with FO you can put more than one database up on your screen at a time and interchange data between them with ease. Really could go on and on for FTM just simply can not measure up to FO at all.] Lester ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Clark's" <fsea@look.ca> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > I am quite knew to this LIST but not knew to genealogy. At present I > have close to 2000 names and 430 marriages with numerous photos and > notes in my Family Tree Maker version 10 data base. > > Since I joined this LIST I have heard positive comments related to FOW10 > as well as the Rootsmagic software. > > I have exported my FTM data to the FO V3, (for a trail run) which I have > had previously to adopting the FTM 10. Thus I am not totally strange to > the FO software. > > Is there anyone out there that has experience with the FTM as well as > the FOW10 that can give any advice on the benefits of FOW over FTM? Any > comments will be appreciated. > > Fred > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > >

From the FO list you will likely not get very many positive comments about FTM, as most of us have tried it over time and have found it inferior to FO in most instances. If you do want to compare feature for feature, a reasonable comparison in my opinion would be to compare the latest version of each or compare the new RootsMagic to FTM version 10. You would not want to compare version 3 of FO as that was a version from 8 or 9 years ago, and there have been so many enhancements and changes since the time it came out. If I were you, I would buy the new RootsMagic program which is currently selling for an introductory price of $19.95. Although it is a new program with new code, to we FO users, it looks and feels much the same as our beloved version 10 of FO with added features that users have been asking for. I have not used the later versions of FTM, but when I did try using the program in the past, I found gedcom imports and exports difficult to remember and hard to explain to anyone else. FTM did not handle sources very well. I did not like its charts, books and lists as well as those in FO. Overall, I found FO a much easier program to teach to people new to computers and to genealogy. Yet it has always had features that met the needs of experienced and serious researchers. I do keep a copy of FTMs free demo program (Family Archive Viewer) or an older FTM version on my computer to read the historical cds I have purchased from Broderbund/Genealogy.com. I have found some of their cds containing standard family genealogies useful. However, I don't think the company makes it entirely clear in their promotions that one does not have to use FTM to use these cds. I personally do not like the fact that Genealogy.com has acquired the publishing rights to a number of genealogy programs though buying out other companies, and is gradually doing away with most everything except FTM. I also don't like their practice of encouraging new people to share their unproved information on those cds they sell, as once the information is pressed to cds, it is in the public domain literally forever. Information shared online can at least be removed from sites and replaced when mistakes are discovered. As an added positive for FO and RootsMagic, Bruce has always participated in the users list for FO and I'm sure he will for RootsMagic as well. How many computer programs do we all use where we have first hand access to the person who wrote the program? Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Clark's" <fsea@look.ca> > I am quite knew to this LIST but not knew to genealogy. At present I have close to 2000 names and 430 marriages with numerous photos and notes in my Family Tree Maker version 10 data base. > > Since I joined this LIST I have heard positive comments related to FOW10 as well as the Rootsmagic software. > I have exported my FTM data to the FO V3, (for a trail run) which I have had previously to adopting the FTM 10. Thus I am not totally strange to the FO software. > Is there anyone out there that has experience with the FTM as well as the FOW10 that can give any advice on the benefits of FOW over FTM? Any comments will be appreciated. Fred

>>I am quite knew to this LIST but not knew to genealogy. At present I have close to 2000 names and 430 marriages with numerous photos and notes in my Family Tree Maker version 10 data base. Since I joined this LIST I have heard positive comments related to FOW10 as well as the Rootsmagic software. I have exported my FTM data to the FO V3, (for a trail run) which I have had previously to adopting the FTM 10. Thus I am not totally strange to the FO software. Is there anyone out there that has experience with the FTM as well as the FOW10 that can give any advice on the benefits of FOW over FTM? Any comments will be appreciated. Fred<< For starters review these URLs http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/rcardtable.htm Software Comparison Report Card http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/ http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/chartpage.htm ------------------------------- ---------------------------------- If pretty charts are your game and you care not about notes and sources, then FTM is what you want. HOWEVER, if a comprehensive working database, with wide database searching functions, comparative side by side review of multiple databases, master place lists, to do lists, master source lists etc etc are more to your liking. So many things have been added since FO v 3, that you will learn nothing by that comparison. Find a copy of FTM v 3.0 if you want to compare that way, or get FO v10.0 and compare a v 10 to to a V 10. FO holds so many notes that trying to go FO to FTM is like trying to pour a gallon into a quart container. If all you have seen is FO v3 , then I submit notwithstanding your statement to the contrary you ARE in fact "totally strange to the FO software." When you talk to those contemplating changing software, invariably they are using FTM and have out grown it. Ask yourself, if there is a midwife or DAR member in your database, what process you would use in FTM to ferret out the person. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH paulstudly@studly.net