Hello Listers, Last week, I was re-arranging my personal database - see "Want gGF as Rec#1". Wayne Leaque made a suggestion which worked like a charm. Now I have another question - or should I call it a brain teaser? This database has 613 individuals - four of them are unlinked. In exploring some of the list types under Reports, Lists, I came across Forest (count trees). I'd never looked at this one before but here is what it said: Count of Trees in Database - 20 Jun 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tree #1 contains 609 people. (CARL AUGUST GOHLKE A4c m1c8-1) Tree #2 contains 1 person. (MARGARETHE BUEHL D1a m0c0-394) Tree #3 contains 1 person. (GEORG MICHAEL BUEHL D1c m0c0-395) Tree #4 contains 1 person. (JOHANN CHRISTOF BUEHL D1d m2c?-396) Tree #5 contains 1 person. (ROSINE BARBARA BUEHL D1e m1c?-397) 5 trees were found in the database. If I highlight (CARL AUGUST GOHLKE A4c m1c8-1) and do a Kinship List, I get 142 individuals. If I highlight myself (I am the great grandson of CARL AUGUST GOHLKE) and do a new Kinship List, I get 589 individuals. This is closer to Tree #1 but still 20 short. I can understand this though because, for example, parents of the spouse of a cousin are not kin but they are in the tree. But what if I wanted to find out who those 20 "non-kin" were? Also, suppose someone sent me a GEDCOM with a bunch of trees, each with a number of individuals. How do I extract Tree #? and put it in a separate database? None of this is a real problem but it arroused my curiosity. Has anyone ever thought about this before and, if so, what conclusions did you come to? I am using FO 8.03. Maybe this subject is addressed in FO 9. Anyhow, any comments would be appreciated. Charles

To extract a single tree from a multiple tree database: First, You import the new GEDCOM into a NEW, EMPTY, database. Then let Family Origins count your trees there for you. To extract only one of these trees: “file” menu “GEDCOM” - “Export GEDCOM’ Give it a name and location, “Selected individuals” --select any individual in the desired tree, then select either ancestors or descendants, then Select “Entire Ancestor/Descendant line” Hit OK a couple of times, then import that GEDCOM into another new, empty database to check it out and tweak it a bit. WHEN it is what you want and EXACTLY the way you want it, you can export yet another GEDCOM for importation into your main database. I think that it is easier to export and import 50 small groups of people and link or merge one or two individuals each time than it is to import the whole thing at once and have to link or merge 100 individuals at once. (I always get lost in there somewhere and miss someone) It sounds like a lot of work, but it is much less than it would be trying to clean up all that extraneous data after it is in your main database. When you get all done, and things are perfect, you can go back and delete those temporary databases. But be sure things ARE perfect first. ------ To find out who those 20 "non kin" were, export a GEDCOM, selecting individuals, select yourself, your ancestors and entire ancestor line, That should get the whole tree. You could then go to your earliest ancestor in each line and deselect him/her and all his/her descendants "and their spouses", because FOW lists such people in the kinship list, such as "The spouse of sixth cousin four times removed". About the only ones you have left is the parents and siblings of those spouses. Good Luck, Alfred ============ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Gohlke" <c.gohlke@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > Hello Listers, ------SNIP------ > 5 trees were found in the database. > > If I highlight (CARL AUGUST GOHLKE A4c m1c8-1) and do a Kinship List, I > get 142 individuals. If I highlight myself (I am the great grandson of > CARL AUGUST GOHLKE) and do a new Kinship List, I get 589 individuals. > This is closer to Tree #1 but still 20 short. I can understand this > though because, for example, parents of the spouse of a cousin are not > kin but they are in the tree. > > But what if I wanted to find out who those 20 "non-kin" were? Also, > suppose someone sent me a GEDCOM with a bunch of trees, each with a number > of individuals. How do I extract Tree #? and put it in a separate > database? > > None of this is a real problem but it arroused my curiosity. Has anyone > ever thought about this before and, if so, what conclusions did you come > to? I am using FO 8.03. Maybe this subject is addressed in FO 9. Anyhow, > any comments would be appreciated. > > Charles