>10 - Note that you can't simply go to the CD and double click on the >ZIP file - you always have to RESTORE a BACKUP from within Family >Origins! It's a very minor point, but I don't understand this comment. I have successfully used WINZIP to restore a backup made by Family Origins many times. In fact, I did so frequently when I was still using floppies to transfer my data base between machines (I now use a zip drive, not to be confused with a zip file). At the time, I was getting a lot of errors on floppies (brand new floppies, newly formatted, etc.) and it was easier to manage the restore process with WINZIP than with Family Origins itself. I also discovered that I could do a full scan of a floppy with Windows and it would report no errors, yet I could test (without restoring) a zip file on the same floppy with WINZIP and it would detect and report errors. Because of the frequent errors on the floppies, plus the fact that my data base had grown to three floppies, I switched to a zip drive as soon as I could afford it. Works great. My "main" computer is pretty old and does not have a CD burner. But my daughter's experience makes me a little leary of CD's. She (a teenager) burns music CD's, and I know that they have many more skips and errors than commercial quality music CD's. I don't know if people who burn CD's only with data and only for use with computers report the same problems. I would suggest that Family Origins backups on CD's can be tested by WINZIP without restoring, and it's probably a good thing to do. I can't speak to other zip/unzip programs, because WINZIP is the only one I use. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf

Gedcom file import: Click on file at upper left of FO screen Create new database within FO giving it a unique name Choose Gedcom import Navigate to where the gedcom file is located that you want to import Click to import file File should import and your guest gedcom file will be in its own database If you are following all the steps and the gedcom file will not import, perhaps it is corrupted or you are trying to use a backup file from a program rather than a gedcom file. The file must be in the format "filename.ged". If you downloaded it in the form "filename.exe", you must unzip it before trying to import it into FO. Let us know where you are having the problem. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dianesowden@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: [FO] WHY CAN'T I IMPORT A GEDCOM FILE > Could sks please tell me why I can't import a Gedcom file? I can EXPORT > quite easily, but not import - why? > > From > > Diane Sowden > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > >

I believe I said, "... CD-RW media is usually only readable ...". Isn't your "... often only..." close enough to "usually only"? Chuckle, chuckle. However, in my very limited experience, I have yet to find another system that would read a CD-RW disk created on my present system (TDK CDR8432) or past system (BTC drive, as I recall), but my experience is certainly not all-encompassing nor definitive nor absolute. I've never had two systems with identical CD drives + CD-burning software such that I could ascertain transportability of a CD-RW media between the two, but I expect it would work. Regardless, I stand by my recommendation that, in general, one should not consider CD-RW media secure or transportable. It is sort of handy, though, isn't it? :-)) Tom

Try searching for various RAID functions. search <google> using <raid drive mirror> or merely <raid> >>RAID, short for Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks, is a method whereby information is spread across several disks, using techniques such as disk striping (RAID Level 0) and disk mirroring (RAID level 1) to achieve redundancy, lower latency and/or higher bandwidth for reading and/or writing, and recoverability from hard-disk crashes. Over six different types of RAID configurations have been defined. A brief introduction can be found in Mike Neuffer's What Is RAID? page. << http://www.raidtoolbox.com/whatcanraiddo4u.html offers a suggestion >>Drive Failure in RAID 1 or RAID 0,1 Situations We have just learned that RAID 1 or mirroring is using half of the hard drives in an array to keep an identical image of your data, thus making your data a lot less sensitive to hard drive failures. Let's see how FastTrak66 handles a failing drive when running a RAID 1 or RAID 0,1 array. We simulated a hard drive failure by simply pulling the power connector of one drive while the system was running. Here the FastTrak66 showed one major flaw that is due to its IDE support. A SCSI RAID controller wouldn't have this problem. The failure of one drive in a RAID 1 or RAID 0,1 configuration will in most cases cause the other drive connected to the same channel to fail as well. The reason for this behavior is rather simple. Most drives, es e.g. IBM and WD hard drives, have different jumper settings for 'single drive', 'master drive' and 'slave drive'. If one hard drive of the same channel fails, the other slave or master drive suddenly becomes a 'single drive'. Unfortunately the jumper settings of the drive don't represent that status and so it fails as well. This means that you must run 1:1 mirrors only by connecting each drive to a different IDE channel, because otherwise both drives will fail and you won't get anything out of the mirror-situation. << . . . http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20000329/fastrak66-10.html Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH paulstudly@studly.net -----Original Message----- From: John S. Wilkinson [mailto:jwilkins@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 7:52 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R Does anyone know of a program to automatically mirror a directory to another hard drive? Have A Great Day John S. Wilkinson WILKINSON, McCOTTER, GREENWELL - Maryland DELAMAR, McCOTTER - North Carolina mailto:jwilkins@twcny.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Ragels [mailto:jragels@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:43 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R Allan All your arguments are true except for one - again rare occurrence - the failure of the cd writer itself. In that case you still have magnetic scarecrows. I used to use both CDRW and CDR. With the cost of CDRW so cheap, I save to zips and then burn to CDR. I'm not sure there is a sure fire method of being totally safe. Most of us screw up from time to time and then pay the price. I haven't backed up many of my file except for FO since the first of Nov even when I know that a hard drive can blow at any time. You still have a good system because you sound like you are doing it often. So on any medium, that fact alone will safe most of us. J Allan Plucinik wrote: > Yes, it is true that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that burned the CD. But I still think it is a good backup. Because even if the worst case scenario happens where my PC is dead as a doornail, all is not lost. I have two options: > > 1. Eventually my PC is going to be repaired so I'll have access to my hard drive again or even if I lost all data on the hard drive, at least I still have the data backed up on the CD-RW disk. The CD-RW drive will be operational again. > > 2. I buy a new PC or use another PC that is available to me. In which case I remove the CD-RW drive from the old PC and install it in the new PC including the same CD burning software. There shouldn't be any problem restoring the data. This might seem like a lot of work, but this type of scenario should be a very rare occurrence and hopefully unlikely to happen anyway. > > As for needing a CD-R disk in order to share data with others, yes the CD-RW disk won't be very useful. In that situation I would simply burn the data to a CD-R on an as-needed basis. The data on CD-RW disk is intended for my own personal backup & restore, not for sharing data. > > Allan Plucinik > Colorado Springs, CO > > Tom Longman wrote: > > >>One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. >> >>Tom > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. - Mark Twain ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Searchable ARCHIVES - http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS

Could sks please tell me why I can't import a Gedcom file? I can EXPORT quite easily, but not import - why? From Diane Sowden

>>GEDCOM standards are not up to an individual programmer. I suppose you can add a fact which would be dedicated to GPS locations, but I wouldn't expect GEDCOM standards to change very fast -- so unless you can 'trick' the GEDCOM by using a standard field for GPS use -- it wouldn't be transferred. << That should be easy burial place Cuyahoga Co., OH - Knollwood Cem - GPS coordinate data Cuyahoga Co., OH - Knollwood Cem - sec X, lot Y There has been cemetery section and lot number data for a long time. Why would GPS coordinate data need to be handled any differently? Or as notes if one prefers. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH paulstudly@studly.net -----Original Message----- From: Allen Siebold [mailto:edalsie@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 7:48 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Will RM have GPS? GEDCOM standards are not up to an individual programmer. I suppose you can add a fact which would be dedicated to GPS locations, but I wouldn't expect GEDCOM standards to change very fast -- so unless you can 'trick' the GEDCOM by using a standard field for GPS use -- it wouldn't be transferred. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.Rodier" <cerear@telusplanet.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: [FO] Will RM have GPS? > Ron, > Do you enter GPS data in Family Origins? Will RootsMagic have a Master > Location list with fields for GPS? Some genealogy programs have fields for > GPS and other data that cannot be exported to a GEDCOM. If they are used, > the data should be duplicated in a field that survives GEDCOM transfers so > that it is available for research contacts. > > I don't have a laptop but might try GPS with a Pocket PC. Pocket Genealogist > allows transfer without GEDCOM from the genealogy program with GPS fields > but not sure if they are included in the current version. > > My method for cemetery locations in the city is to include a series of > pictures in scrapbooks showing the way from a safe parking space to the > grave in addition to maps of the cemetery. Maps or location pictures would > have to be copied separately to the Pocket PC. Our first GPS seemed too hard > to learn and I didn't really find a use for it. Using a world map on DVD to > find locations within about ten miles but a 1904 paper atlas is better for > communities that have since become part of large cities. Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Mitchell" > > My experience with GPS has been very favorable. I purchased a unit > > along with a map program from DeLorme a few years ago. I hooked it up > > with my Compaq laptop. I found it sensitive enough to follow my track > > around in the back yard. Be aware that I am not pushing any Delorme > > products, just relating my experience with them. > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com

A very HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL. From Di and Steve Sowden

Just a guess from the limited info sent to us but I doubt your program is finding the ged. Where are you looking for it? Is on disk or on line? More info please. Ron : Could sks please tell me why I can't import a Gedcom file? I can EXPORT

What you are looking for is called RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks). You can get a pretty good overview at http://linas.org/linux/Software-RAID/Software-RAID-1.html. Even though this is written for Linux, the basics of RAID are the same. From there, things get complicated and/or expensive. I still recommend doing a backup and then sending it via email to a sibling, cousin or your work. Good Hunting! -- Paul aka Graveseeker on Geocaching.com where YOU are the search engine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John S. Wilkinson" <jwilkins@twcny.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:51 AM Subject: RE: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R > Does anyone know of a program to automatically mirror a directory to another > hard drive? > > Have A Great Day > > John S. Wilkinson > WILKINSON, McCOTTER, GREENWELL - Maryland > DELAMAR, McCOTTER - North Carolina > mailto:jwilkins@twcny.rr.com

Does anyone know of a program to automatically mirror a directory to another hard drive? Have A Great Day John S. Wilkinson WILKINSON, McCOTTER, GREENWELL - Maryland DELAMAR, McCOTTER - North Carolina mailto:jwilkins@twcny.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Ragels [mailto:jragels@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:43 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R Allan All your arguments are true except for one - again rare occurrence - the failure of the cd writer itself. In that case you still have magnetic scarecrows. I used to use both CDRW and CDR. With the cost of CDRW so cheap, I save to zips and then burn to CDR. I'm not sure there is a sure fire method of being totally safe. Most of us screw up from time to time and then pay the price. I haven't backed up many of my file except for FO since the first of Nov even when I know that a hard drive can blow at any time. You still have a good system because you sound like you are doing it often. So on any medium, that fact alone will safe most of us. J Allan Plucinik wrote: > Yes, it is true that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that burned the CD. But I still think it is a good backup. Because even if the worst case scenario happens where my PC is dead as a doornail, all is not lost. I have two options: > > 1. Eventually my PC is going to be repaired so I'll have access to my hard drive again or even if I lost all data on the hard drive, at least I still have the data backed up on the CD-RW disk. The CD-RW drive will be operational again. > > 2. I buy a new PC or use another PC that is available to me. In which case I remove the CD-RW drive from the old PC and install it in the new PC including the same CD burning software. There shouldn't be any problem restoring the data. This might seem like a lot of work, but this type of scenario should be a very rare occurrence and hopefully unlikely to happen anyway. > > As for needing a CD-R disk in order to share data with others, yes the CD-RW disk won't be very useful. In that situation I would simply burn the data to a CD-R on an as-needed basis. The data on CD-RW disk is intended for my own personal backup & restore, not for sharing data. > > Allan Plucinik > Colorado Springs, CO > > Tom Longman wrote: > > >>One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. >> >>Tom > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. - Mark Twain ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information.

Thats Fine As Long as The Computer Does Not Burn In A Fire. Have A Great Day John S. Wilkinson WILKINSON, McCOTTER, GREENWELL - Maryland DELAMAR, McCOTTER - North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Allan Plucinik [mailto:allan.plucinik@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:29 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R Yes, it is true that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that burned the CD. But I still think it is a good backup. Because even if the worst case scenario happens where my PC is dead as a doornail, all is not lost. I have two options: 1. Eventually my PC is going to be repaired so I'll have access to my hard drive again or even if I lost all data on the hard drive, at least I still have the data backed up on the CD-RW disk. The CD-RW drive will be operational again. 2. I buy a new PC or use another PC that is available to me. In which case I remove the CD-RW drive from the old PC and install it in the new PC including the same CD burning software. There shouldn't be any problem restoring the data. This might seem like a lot of work, but this type of scenario should be a very rare occurrence and hopefully unlikely to happen anyway. As for needing a CD-R disk in order to share data with others, yes the CD-RW disk won't be very useful. In that situation I would simply burn the data to a CD-R on an as-needed basis. The data on CD-RW disk is intended for my own personal backup & restore, not for sharing data. Allan Plucinik Colorado Springs, CO Tom Longman wrote: > One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. > > Tom ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information.

Not true, Tom. There are different standards and CD-RWs will often only read on computers having CDs using the same standard but it isn't true to say that a CD-RW will only read on the drive that created it. The technology isn't that primitive <g>. Good Hunting! -- Paul aka Graveseeker on Geocaching.com where YOU are the search engine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Longman" <toml@direcway.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:11 PM Subject: [FO] Backing up Files to CD-R > One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. > > Tom > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS >

Allan All your arguments are true except for one - again rare occurrence - the failure of the cd writer itself. In that case you still have magnetic scarecrows. I used to use both CDRW and CDR. With the cost of CDRW so cheap, I save to zips and then burn to CDR. I'm not sure there is a sure fire method of being totally safe. Most of us screw up from time to time and then pay the price. I haven't backed up many of my file except for FO since the first of Nov even when I know that a hard drive can blow at any time. You still have a good system because you sound like you are doing it often. So on any medium, that fact alone will safe most of us. J Allan Plucinik wrote: > Yes, it is true that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that burned the CD. But I still think it is a good backup. Because even if the worst case scenario happens where my PC is dead as a doornail, all is not lost. I have two options: > > 1. Eventually my PC is going to be repaired so I'll have access to my hard drive again or even if I lost all data on the hard drive, at least I still have the data backed up on the CD-RW disk. The CD-RW drive will be operational again. > > 2. I buy a new PC or use another PC that is available to me. In which case I remove the CD-RW drive from the old PC and install it in the new PC including the same CD burning software. There shouldn't be any problem restoring the data. This might seem like a lot of work, but this type of scenario should be a very rare occurrence and hopefully unlikely to happen anyway. > > As for needing a CD-R disk in order to share data with others, yes the CD-RW disk won't be very useful. In that situation I would simply burn the data to a CD-R on an as-needed basis. The data on CD-RW disk is intended for my own personal backup & restore, not for sharing data. > > Allan Plucinik > Colorado Springs, CO > > Tom Longman wrote: > > >>One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. >> >>Tom > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. - Mark Twain

If you backup to a CD-R, once it is burned you cant reburn it. Why not backup to a CD-RW and you can use it over and over as your files change. Art Pollock ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Millar" <hmillar@attbi.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Backing Up Files to CD-R > In case some of the backup information lately was confusing to some > (myself included), I just gave it a try and wrote down the steps that > successfully allowed me to Backup to a CD-R and Restore the database to > FO v.10. This is using Windows XP. > > 1. Put a CD-R in the burner > 2. Make a normal backup to a Genealogy folder in My Documents (you can > store this where you wish) > 3. Went to that file using My Computer and highlighted the ZIP file I'd > just backed up, clicked Copy To, clicked on the burner drive and a box > popped up telling me I had files to copy to the D drive. > 4. Went to the D drive (burner) and there's the ZIP file - "Files ready > to be written to the CD" - Data files have to be copied, then written to > the CD in 2 steps. > 5. Clicked CD Writing Tasks, write to the CD, and the CD Writing Wizard > comes up and named the CD "December 30" which then wrote my Backup (ZIP) > file to the CD > 6.Closed the CD tray which had popped open when the burn was complete. > 7.Opened FO and closed the database in the window > 8.Went to the FO File menu and selected Restore > 9. Bing, bang, boom - piece of cake, just like I do all the time with a > floppy back and forth to my laptop to keep the databases identical. > 10 - Note that you can't simply go to the CD and double click on the ZIP > file - you always have to RESTORE a BACKUP from within Family Origins! > > So, thanks to everyone who offered help to the list. If someone doesn't > have the same setup (Win XP and FO v.10) maybe another kind soul will > help with how it works on their machine. Remember, I did it all with XP, > using My Computer to work between my C and D drives. > > If you have separate CD burner software such as Adaptec Easy CD Creator, > that came on my PC, but I can't get it to work<G>. > > Hope you all have a great new year. > > Tim Millar > Cape Cod > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS >

Yes, it is true that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that burned the CD. But I still think it is a good backup. Because even if the worst case scenario happens where my PC is dead as a doornail, all is not lost. I have two options: 1. Eventually my PC is going to be repaired so I'll have access to my hard drive again or even if I lost all data on the hard drive, at least I still have the data backed up on the CD-RW disk. The CD-RW drive will be operational again. 2. I buy a new PC or use another PC that is available to me. In which case I remove the CD-RW drive from the old PC and install it in the new PC including the same CD burning software. There shouldn't be any problem restoring the data. This might seem like a lot of work, but this type of scenario should be a very rare occurrence and hopefully unlikely to happen anyway. As for needing a CD-R disk in order to share data with others, yes the CD-RW disk won't be very useful. In that situation I would simply burn the data to a CD-R on an as-needed basis. The data on CD-RW disk is intended for my own personal backup & restore, not for sharing data. Allan Plucinik Colorado Springs, CO Tom Longman wrote: > One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. > > Tom

Be careful of backing up on CDRW IF you plan on using it on a different computer. CDRW will sometimes not work on a different computer at all. In my opinion, this makes for a poor choice of backup. J Arthur Pollock wrote: > If you backup to a CD-R, once it is burned you cant reburn it. Why not > backup to a CD-RW and you can use it over and over as your files change. > > Art Pollock > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Millar" <hmillar@attbi.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [FO] Backing Up Files to CD-R > > > >>In case some of the backup information lately was confusing to some >>(myself included), I just gave it a try and wrote down the steps that >>successfully allowed me to Backup to a CD-R and Restore the database to >>FO v.10. This is using Windows XP. >> >>1. Put a CD-R in the burner >>2. Make a normal backup to a Genealogy folder in My Documents (you can >>store this where you wish) >>3. Went to that file using My Computer and highlighted the ZIP file I'd >>just backed up, clicked Copy To, clicked on the burner drive and a box >>popped up telling me I had files to copy to the D drive. >>4. Went to the D drive (burner) and there's the ZIP file - "Files ready >>to be written to the CD" - Data files have to be copied, then written to >>the CD in 2 steps. >>5. Clicked CD Writing Tasks, write to the CD, and the CD Writing Wizard >>comes up and named the CD "December 30" which then wrote my Backup (ZIP) >>file to the CD >>6.Closed the CD tray which had popped open when the burn was complete. >>7.Opened FO and closed the database in the window >>8.Went to the FO File menu and selected Restore >>9. Bing, bang, boom - piece of cake, just like I do all the time with a >>floppy back and forth to my laptop to keep the databases identical. >>10 - Note that you can't simply go to the CD and double click on the ZIP >>file - you always have to RESTORE a BACKUP from within Family Origins! >> >>So, thanks to everyone who offered help to the list. If someone doesn't >>have the same setup (Win XP and FO v.10) maybe another kind soul will >>help with how it works on their machine. Remember, I did it all with XP, >>using My Computer to work between my C and D drives. >> >>If you have separate CD burner software such as Adaptec Easy CD Creator, >>that came on my PC, but I can't get it to work<G>. >> >>Hope you all have a great new year. >> >>Tim Millar >>Cape Cod >> >> >> >>==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >>Searchable ARCHIVES - >> > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U > SERS > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. - Mark Twain

In case some of the backup information lately was confusing to some (myself included), I just gave it a try and wrote down the steps that successfully allowed me to Backup to a CD-R and Restore the database to FO v.10. This is using Windows XP. 1. Put a CD-R in the burner 2. Make a normal backup to a Genealogy folder in My Documents (you can store this where you wish) 3. Went to that file using My Computer and highlighted the ZIP file I'd just backed up, clicked Copy To, clicked on the burner drive and a box popped up telling me I had files to copy to the D drive. 4. Went to the D drive (burner) and there's the ZIP file - "Files ready to be written to the CD" - Data files have to be copied, then written to the CD in 2 steps. 5. Clicked CD Writing Tasks, write to the CD, and the CD Writing Wizard comes up and named the CD "December 30" which then wrote my Backup (ZIP) file to the CD 6.Closed the CD tray which had popped open when the burn was complete. 7.Opened FO and closed the database in the window 8.Went to the FO File menu and selected Restore 9. Bing, bang, boom - piece of cake, just like I do all the time with a floppy back and forth to my laptop to keep the databases identical. 10 - Note that you can't simply go to the CD and double click on the ZIP file - you always have to RESTORE a BACKUP from within Family Origins! So, thanks to everyone who offered help to the list. If someone doesn't have the same setup (Win XP and FO v.10) maybe another kind soul will help with how it works on their machine. Remember, I did it all with XP, using My Computer to work between my C and D drives. If you have separate CD burner software such as Adaptec Easy CD Creator, that came on my PC, but I can't get it to work<G>. Hope you all have a great new year. Tim Millar Cape Cod

He will not be 5 until January 2003. Right? J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: <FormalSoft@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Birthdays and anniversarys In a message dated 12/30/2002 6:58:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, rturner81@houston.rr.com writes: > Each month I print out a birthday and anniversary list for my relatives > and e-mail it to them. > A cousin asked me today why they were off a year! And they are!! > > My computer date says 2002, I have a nephew that was born in January 1998 > The birthday list says that he will be 4 years old. That is wrong it > should say 5 years old. > What is wrong???? How old was he the date you printed the list? That is what the age is based on. - Bruce <A HREF="http://www.RootsMagic.com">http://www.RootsMagic.com</A> ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002

In a message dated 12/30/2002 6:58:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, rturner81@houston.rr.com writes: > Each month I print out a birthday and anniversary list for my relatives > and e-mail it to them. > A cousin asked me today why they were off a year! And they are!! > > My computer date says 2002, I have a nephew that was born in January 1998 > The birthday list says that he will be 4 years old. That is wrong it > should say 5 years old. > What is wrong???? How old was he the date you printed the list? That is what the age is based on. - Bruce <A HREF="http://www.RootsMagic.com">http://www.RootsMagic.com</A>

One important reason to use CD-R instead of CD-RW is that CD-RW media is usually only readable on the same unit that "burned" the CD, and often times requires that same program as was used originally when writing the CD. This can easily preclude sharing the CD with others, but also means that you might not be able to read your CD on your CD-ROM drive, should you have to replace the unit for whatever reason. Tom