Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:54 PM > Is there a spouse issue here? > > For example can't the wife collect on her dead husband's SSN after his > death? > > \s\Rick I believe my mother collected my father's amount after he passed but it was under her SS No. Sally

Surviving spouse claim includes the decedent number but is not used for personal identification. J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Benson" <kevinbenson@worldnet.att.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports As Mike mentioned, and the wife of the "deceased" (~AND~ 290,014,522 *OTHER* American's ;-) can get the SSN off the web, so it's "UNLIKELY" they'll rely on -=YOUR=- genealogy website or FO database to get their information :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "hummers" <hummers@rcn.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports > Is there a spouse issue here? > > For example can't the wife collect on her dead husband's SSN after his > death? > > \s\Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike RANSOM" <mike@ransom.net> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:19 PM > Subject: RE: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports > > > > Other than personal preference, you need not worry about posting Social > > Security Numbers for dead people. > >... > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Searchable ARCHIVES - http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002

It's on the FO 6 Deluxe CD [along with PlaceFinder] > -----Original Message----- > From: David E. Cann [mailto:decann@infi.net] > I used to have a "Royalty" database that came with Family Origins, but > thanks to some computer problems, I just discovered I no longer > have it. I have used FO since version 3, and it came with one of them, but > I would sure like to get another copy of that database. >

As Mike mentioned, and the wife of the "deceased" (~AND~ 290,014,522 *OTHER* American's ;-) can get the SSN off the web, so it's "UNLIKELY" they'll rely on -=YOUR=- genealogy website or FO database to get their information :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "hummers" <hummers@rcn.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports > Is there a spouse issue here? > > For example can't the wife collect on her dead husband's SSN after his > death? > > \s\Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike RANSOM" <mike@ransom.net> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:19 PM > Subject: RE: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports > > > > Other than personal preference, you need not worry about posting Social > > Security Numbers for dead people. > >... > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm >

Is there a spouse issue here? For example can't the wife collect on her dead husband's SSN after his death? \s\Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike RANSOM" <mike@ransom.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [FO] SSN fact not showing in reports > Other than personal preference, you need not worry about posting Social > Security Numbers for dead people. >...

You might want to check out http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/GEDCOM.html

I used to have a "Royalty" database that came with Family Origins, but thanks to some computer problems, I just discovered I no longer have it. I have used FO since version 3, and it came with one of them, but I would sure like to get another copy of that database. Does anyone out there still have it tucked away anywhere? If so, can you send it to me as a GEDCOM e-mail attachment, or tell me where (or if?) I can get mine replaced. I thank you in advance for your response. David E. Cann decann@infi.net

Other than personal preference, you need not worry about posting Social Security Numbers for dead people. I collect the Social Security Numbers of related dead people, as reported to the Social Security Administration and publicly posted on Ancestry, Rootsweb, FamilySearch, and several other sites, and include these numbers in the SSN fact in my database. Because they have already been "cancelled" by SSA after being reported for deaths, I doubt there's any potential for fraud--at least no greater than "just making one up". And, anyone can freely get the numbers from the public databases noted above. I think it is valuable to post the number for dead people so others can efficiently search the SS Death Master File [SSDI] and get additional information, or order the SS-5. I don't collect or list SSN's for living people, nor do I post any of their info on the web or share it with non-related people. even further OffTopic, I also find it interesting that SSDI lists 50-100 people a year who died from 1900 to 1936, and almost 2000 born 1800-1850. None of these people appear eligible for SSN's, much less benefits! typographical errors, I suppose . . . Mike RANSOM

If you would look in the help menu, under GEDCOM, you would find a rather good explanation of how to do this. There is a lot of good information in the help files. But, not everything, or there would be no need for this list. Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilbert9" <gilbert9@flash.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: [FO] GEDCOM > Can someone tell me how to tell someone else (she uses FO) how to EXPORT a GEDCOM to me. > > I'll be asking later how to import. > > Thank you in advance. >

Gilbert, To export your database to a GEDCOM file: Click the "Export GEDCOM" button on the toolbar or do "file, GEDCOM, Export GEDCOM" from the main menu. FO will bring up the standard Windows file save dialog where you can enter the name you want to give your GEDCOM file (make a note of which folder you are saving the file to so you can find it later to email it). Once you enter a file name, FO will bring up an options dialog for the GEDCOM file you want to create. Select the options you want (i.e. Export entire database and Destination General) then click OK. To email the GEDCOM file, simply your email program with the file as an attachment to your email. Allan Plucinik Colorado Springs, CO gilbert9 wrote: >Can someone tell me how to tell someone else (she uses FO) how to EXPORT a GEDCOM to me. > >I'll be asking later how to import. > >Thank you in advance. > >

This came in the Rootsweb Review today, and I thought it might be a good idea for us FO and future RootsMagic users Russ Turner Tips from Readers. Technology to the Rescue Thanks to: John W. Grace jwgrace99@yahoo.com A couple of years ago I purchased a document scanner and CD-ROM writer for my PC. Like many people, we used our CD writer to record music, but I soon found the CDs to be very useful as digital archives for genealogical information. The first things that I put on a CD were my descendancy charts. I maintain my charts in text files, and I found that it was easy to convert them into the HTML format that my Internet browser uses. I "write" the HTML-formatted charts onto a CD and whenever a relative with a PC asks for a copy of my chart, I give them a CD. The HTML format allows them to easily view the charts using their Web browser. Like many genealogy "nuts," I have hundreds of old photos, birth and death certificates and the like that I have collected through the years. Now I put scanned images of these onto CDs (usually in the .JPEG image format). I made some small changes in my HTML charts to allow the viewer to click on a link next to a person’s name and bring up a photo or other image associated with that individual. I include a few lines of informa- tion describing the image, any date associated with it, the source, etc. It works great, and only needs to be done once. I also have some recorded audio files that I have linked to my chart so that now we can not only see the family relationship on the chart and view their photo, but also hear their voice! It didn’t require a lot of technical knowledge either. I am now in the process of creating my "ultimate" CD-ROM. My plan is to scan just about everything that I have that’s scannable, and put it all onto CDs. I will then worry much less that a fire, flood or some other disaster will destroy my genealogical treasures. I put copies of my CDs in safe places, so even if the original documents are lost, at least I will still have digital images of them. It’s much more economical to create CDs (about 10 cents each) than it is to make photo copies. So my advice is: "scan everything

Can someone tell me how to tell someone else (she uses FO) how to EXPORT a GEDCOM to me. I'll be asking later how to import. Thank you in advance.

Thanks, Alfred, for your help in rescuing me from my crash when I attempted to import a gedcom which was bad in some way. Everything worked like you said and I'm up and running. I was able to then combine my people, my husband's people and our son-in-law's people and put together a database for our grandson for his Social Studies/Language Arts Class project. Thanks to you, too, Bruce. Lew said to remind you that he is still waiting for his Christmas present. Thanks for this list! Regards, Trudy

Since 50 CD-R usually come on a spindle, why not use the original spindle package Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH paulstudly@studly.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Jones [mailto:jonesr007@hawaii.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:07 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [FO] Storage of backups on CD Another alternative to the multiple CD cases is to use the thin cases. Aloha Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Al Turner [mailto:aleturner@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:53 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] Storage of backups on CD I would like to weigh in the the subject of burning backups to CD as it relates to storage, begging our illustrious list administrator's indulgence for an off topic discourse. I have always believed that the best way to protect a CD that was used frequently was by placing it in a jewel case. As my collection of data and backup CDs grew I went to two, four, and five CD cases to conserve space. I recently purchased a quantity of 2 CD cases from a well known computer store outlet and doubled up some of the singles. Later, I had occasion to use a CD from one of these jewel cases and discovered a crack in the CD extending from the hole to midway across the center of the CD and a similar crack on the opposite side. Then I examined the second CD and found cracks forming around the rim of the hole. Then I examined all of the CDs in this new batch of jewel cases and found cracks forming in about a third of the CDs. As you know, a CD is written from the inner portion out and any crack that extends from the center ring into the writing surface renders it useless to the average user. A close examination of these jewel cases revealed that the hub holding the CD in place consisted of eight molded round plastic pins about 3 millimeters in diameter and the CD was actually held in place by friction rather than the conventional spring action found in most older cases. There was no "give" whatsoever in these pins and the pressure they exerted on the CD from inside out was causing the cracking. Fortunately, I had burned CD-R backups for all these CDs, placed them in paper sleeves and stored them in a safety deposit box so there was no great loss. The lesson learned is that if it takes unusual force to seat the CD in the case be aware of what can happen. And just when you thought it was safe to go outside ..... Al ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Searchable ARCHIVES - http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/

If you are going to attach it to an email anyway, why not create the GEDCOM file on your hard drive? Then it will be in one piece and much easier to handle. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Ronnerud" <swtsales@mhtc.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: [FO] Making a GEDCOM > HI: > I am making a GEDCOM with version 10 and need two disks to make an A disk copy. > When I attached the GEDCOM to an email to be sent I got a mixed up GEDCOM on the other end. > I know there must be a better way to make a copy to attach to an Email so can someone tell me how to do it. > Jim Ronnerud > ++++FREE++++++++++++FREE+++++++ > Vist my web site and get one of our > most popular products. > Click Here ----> http://www.swtsales.com > ******FREE*****************FREE*********** > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > >

HI: I am making a GEDCOM with version 10 and need two disks to make an A disk copy. When I attached the GEDCOM to an email to be sent I got a mixed up GEDCOM on the other end. I know there must be a better way to make a copy to attach to an Email so can someone tell me how to do it. Jim Ronnerud ++++FREE++++++++++++FREE+++++++ Vist my web site and get one of our most popular products. Click Here ----> http://www.swtsales.com ******FREE*****************FREE***********

James, You can't attache a file to your email if it is spread across multiple diskettes. It has to be a fully intact file. If your intent is to simply email the GEDCOM file to someone, then why save the GEDCOM file to a floppy? Just save it to your computer's hard disk where it won't be broken up across multiple diskettes. When you're prompted for a file name, call it c:\mygedcom.ged or whatever, for example. You can then attach that gedcom file that's on your hard disk to your email. Allan Plucinik Colorado Springs, CO James Ronnerud wrote: >HI: >I am making a GEDCOM with version 10 and need two disks to make an A disk copy. >When I attached the GEDCOM to an email to be sent I got a mixed up GEDCOM on the other end. >I know there must be a better way to make a copy to attach to an Email so can someone tell me how to do it. >Jim Ronnerud >

Put the gedcom on your hard disk and attach it to your message from your hard drive. Aloha Wayne -----Original Message----- From: James Ronnerud [mailto:swtsales@mhtc.net] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:22 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] Making a GEDCOM HI: I am making a GEDCOM with version 10 and need two disks to make an A disk copy. When I attached the GEDCOM to an email to be sent I got a mixed up GEDCOM on the other end. I know there must be a better way to make a copy to attach to an Email so can someone tell me how to do it. Jim Ronnerud ++++FREE++++++++++++FREE+++++++ Vist my web site and get one of our most popular products. Click Here ----> http://www.swtsales.com ******FREE*****************FREE*********** ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/

Yep, that works for bulk storage, but not if you need some identification printed on the spine that us old folks can read from 30" away. Al Wayne Jones wrote: > > Another alternative to the multiple CD cases is to use the thin cases. > > Aloha > Wayne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Turner [mailto:aleturner@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:53 AM > To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FO] Storage of backups on CD > > I would like to weigh in the the subject of burning backups to CD as it > relates to storage, begging our illustrious list administrator's > indulgence for an off topic discourse. > > I have always believed that the best way to protect a CD that was used > frequently was by placing it in a jewel case. As my collection of data > and backup CDs grew I went to two, four, and five CD cases to conserve > space. I recently purchased a quantity of 2 CD cases from a well known > computer store outlet and doubled up some of the singles. Later, I had > occasion to use a CD from one of these jewel cases and discovered a > crack in the CD extending from the hole to midway across the center of > the CD and a similar crack on the opposite side. Then I examined the > second CD and found cracks forming around the rim of the hole. Then I > examined all of the CDs in this new batch of jewel cases and found > cracks forming in about a third of the CDs. As you know, a CD is written > from the inner portion out and any crack that extends from the center > ring into the writing surface renders it useless to the average user. > > A close examination of these jewel cases revealed that the hub holding > the CD in place consisted of eight molded round plastic pins about 3 > millimeters in diameter and the CD was actually held in place by > friction rather than the conventional spring action found in most older > cases. There was no "give" whatsoever in these pins and the pressure > they exerted on the CD from inside out was causing the cracking. > > Fortunately, I had burned CD-R backups for all these CDs, placed them in > paper sleeves and stored them in a safety deposit box so there was no > great loss. > > The lesson learned is that if it takes unusual force to seat the CD in > the case be aware of what can happen. And just when you thought it was > safe to go outside ..... > > Al >

I would like to weigh in the the subject of burning backups to CD as it relates to storage, begging our illustrious list administrator's indulgence for an off topic discourse. I have always believed that the best way to protect a CD that was used frequently was by placing it in a jewel case. As my collection of data and backup CDs grew I went to two, four, and five CD cases to conserve space. I recently purchased a quantity of 2 CD cases from a well known computer store outlet and doubled up some of the singles. Later, I had occasion to use a CD from one of these jewel cases and discovered a crack in the CD extending from the hole to midway across the center of the CD and a similar crack on the opposite side. Then I examined the second CD and found cracks forming around the rim of the hole. Then I examined all of the CDs in this new batch of jewel cases and found cracks forming in about a third of the CDs. As you know, a CD is written from the inner portion out and any crack that extends from the center ring into the writing surface renders it useless to the average user. A close examination of these jewel cases revealed that the hub holding the CD in place consisted of eight molded round plastic pins about 3 millimeters in diameter and the CD was actually held in place by friction rather than the conventional spring action found in most older cases. There was no "give" whatsoever in these pins and the pressure they exerted on the CD from inside out was causing the cracking. Fortunately, I had burned CD-R backups for all these CDs, placed them in paper sleeves and stored them in a safety deposit box so there was no great loss. The lesson learned is that if it takes unusual force to seat the CD in the case be aware of what can happen. And just when you thought it was safe to go outside ..... Al