Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll paper printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know to print charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of sheets together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll printer to install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. I would print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them to print on their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a driver. Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. Marlin

I am having trouble getting this chart to print correctly. If I try to print from FO screen I am told that it will take 1 1/2 pages. If I copy to a blank doc. the left side is cut off. It's only 6 people (first cousins, once removed) and only about 3 inches wide (1/4 of the paper if put in one corner) so I don't see why there is a problem. I have it set to print no boxes and only b &d year. Is there something I am over looking? Yvonne

Kinkos.com has a File Prep Tool that may, I say May enable large format printing at their store. It installs as a Printer, you select the Chart and print , select the Kinkos Printer driver. this saves to <Filename.kft> or is it <.kpt>, copy to a floppy and see what they can do with it. http://kinkos.com HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! Jim Mahan --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan --- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com --- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; --- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." --- --- President GEORGE W. BUSH --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlin Aker" <aker@comcast.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: [FO] Printing Charts > Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll paper > printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know to print > charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of sheets > together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll printer to > install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. I would > print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them to print on > their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a driver. > > Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. > Marlin > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > >

Hmmm, We are one of the "Discontinued Products" I noticed in the Genealogy.com site at: http://www.genealogy.com/help/ Under Product Questions, "Select your product," Family Origins 10 and earlier are listed in the section with the discontinued products. The help section and the knowledge base are still there though. And, if I click on the "Shop" button at the bottom of the logo, I see that Family Origins is still listed as being for sale. Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------

If you go to Bruce's site and click through to "order this product" there is a kinder, gentler version, but the same information: http://www.formalsoft.com/orders.htm How long will Bruce keep selling FO 10 CDs for someone who might want to replace a defective one, that type of thing, does anyone know? I'm thinking I might want a spare just in case. Linda Scheimann --- Alfred Eller <adeller@santel.net> wrote: > Hmmm, We are one of the "Discontinued Products" > > I noticed in the Genealogy.com site at: > http://www.genealogy.com/help/ > Under Product Questions, "Select your product," Family Origins 10 > and > earlier are listed in the section with the discontinued products. > > The help section and the knowledge base are still there though. And, > if I click on the "Shop" button at the bottom of the logo, I see that > Family Origins is still listed as being for sale. > > > Alfred D. Eller > Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com > FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for > ordering information. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I just did a test and used the default of 2 Inches it didn't work, it cut off on the 2nd page, I then tried 1.5 Inches and it looks OK. HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! Jim Mahan --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan --- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com --- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; --- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." --- --- President GEORGE W. BUSH --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne" <yvonne@monmouth.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: [FO] Relationship Chart > I am having trouble getting this chart to print correctly. If I try to > print from FO screen I am told that it will take 1 1/2 pages. If I copy > to a blank doc. the left side is cut off. > It's only 6 people (first cousins, once removed) and only about 3 inches > wide (1/4 of the paper if put in one corner) so I don't see why there > is a problem. I have it set to print no boxes and only b &d year. > Is there something I am over looking? > Yvonne > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > >

As a guess, I would say a lack of marketing from the company that has the marketing rights. Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: Dianesowden@aol.com [mailto:Dianesowden@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:14 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] FO10 Why is Bruce discontinuing this product, it is VERY good, and my friend teaches it to other people? So why is he finishing it? Diane Sowden ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com

Wayne League's answer to Charles Gohlke's problem works fine as long as the database hasn't been entirely reconstructed, e.g. by making a GEDCOM, deleting the database, and making a new one from the GEDCOM. I do this occasionally after a batch of merges, and all the people in the reconstructed database have the same Date Last Edited. I get round this by making a new event "Updated", which records the date, the fact/event altered, and which is preserved through a reconstruction. Also I don't have to worry about whether I press "Cancel" rather than "OK", the latter altering the Date Last Edited. Colin Wilton-Davies in sunny Jersey, Channel Islands _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

You might want to take this concept just a little futher. I have done the same since FOW 6, but my UPDATED fact also contains the Description filed. This is where I put a short note on what changed during the last update. When sharing a database, updates made by others are noted by their use of initials in the Description field along with the description. Very handy for knowing what was modified by others for merging back into the "master" database. Dick > > Wayne League's answer to Charles Gohlke's problem works fine as long as the > database hasn't been entirely reconstructed, e.g. by making a GEDCOM, > deleting the database, and making a new one from the GEDCOM. I do this > occasionally after a batch of merges, and all the people in the > reconstructed database have the same Date Last Edited. I get round this by > making a new event "Updated", which records the date, the fact/event > altered, and which is preserved through a reconstruction. Also I don't have > to worry about whether I press "Cancel" rather than "OK", the latter > altering the Date Last Edited. > Colin Wilton-Davies in sunny Jersey, Channel Islands > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/

Thanks to all who responded to my thread. I had some good comments which left me with more food for thought. One response may not have been on the list so I am repeating it below: > nameC.CDX,DBF,FPT - Citations > nameD.CDX,DBF,FPT - ToDo > nameE.CDX,DBF,FPT - Events > nameI.CDX,DBF,FPT - Multimedia > nameK.CDX,DBF - Children > nameL.CDX,DBF - Locations, places > nameM.CDX,DBF,FPT - Marriages > nameP.CDX,DBF,FPT - Individuals > nameR.CDX,DBF - Addresses > nameS.CDX,DBF,FPT - Sources > nameT.CDX,DBF - Event Tags > nameX.CDX,DBF - Temple list > nameY.CDX,DBF,FPT - Repository This was from Brianne Kelly-Bly Webmaster - NJGenWeb - Morris County http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris I guess this is all academic - RootsMagic will probably be entirely different. Charles Gohlke

Are you certain you do not have a virus? J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret McEuen" <MargMcEuen@prodigy.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [FO] More on Gigantic FPT files Thanks to all who responded to my problem with the gigantic FPT files in my FO database. We have been working on it all day and have discovered that the problem is in the multimedia part. I had already printed a list before my first query and had 53 people with 132 pictures. The file had been packed also, but wouldn't pack yesterday as was too big. I also couldn't get Gen. Helper to look at it, as it was too big for it too. We followed Kevin's suggestions and worked back and forth with the files between backups and gedcoms. Thanks, Kevin. When I Gedcommed the database into a new place with multimedia to go also, the file was gigantic and took over 30 min. to transfer. The zip backup was abt 70 times larger than the same database zipped without the multimedia's 132 pictures. So we have narrowed it down to being the multimedia part that has increased the files so much. I tried taking out the later pictures and making gedcoms of the people who had the pictures added sooner, but that didn't work either and each file was still gigantic. We just went back through all the old backups on tape and found that the problem seemed back between 1 June 2002 when the .zip was 1.2 MB and 24 Jun 2002 when it became 4.2 MB without adding that many pictures in between. We are going to check the data on each of those backups by restoring them in different databases and check the # of multimedia items on each, but this will take awhile. We have to go to work tomorrow. This problem was gradually sneaking up apparently, and I didn't get any warning until my section of the hard drive started filling up. My husband regularly defrags all the partitions and checks for space and he didn't notice it either. I have no idea what could have happened between 1 and 24 June. The problem has been accelerating since then and finally almost filled my partition on our hard drive. We never did get a warning from Windows, just noticed that the partition was almost full when I hadn't added that much more during the holidays. Do any of you have any idea why the multimedia would suddenly start showing so many items, 3,562,711 at last count, when there are only 132 pictures in the file? It does sound like the pointers have become messed up, but how? It looks like I'll have to reenter the 132 pictures, but what's to keep this from happening again? This seemed to start after FO 10 had been installed for about 6 months. This has gotten rather long. Thank you all for your suggestions, and I hope you can come up with more to help figure this out. Hope this made sense, as I'm rather tired from dealing with this all day. Thanks all. Marg McEuen ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002

CANCEL ----- Original Message ----- From: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V03 #12

Margaret McEuen <MargMcEuen@prodigy.net> wrote: >When I Gedcommed the database into a new place with multimedia to go >also, the file was gigantic and took over 30 min. to transfer. The zip >backup was abt 70 times larger than the same database zipped without the >multimedia's 132 pictures. FO does not incorporate multimedia files into its database ... only the links to those are in the database and that could not account for the huge increase you are seeing. There was a fault discovered quite a while back where a gedcom export would hang up and stop before it was completed. One reason for such an error was an extra long line in a note or a source that had no spaces, such as a website URL. That particular trouble had been corrected by the time FO10 came along, but there might be other configurations that would still cause the trouble. When it happened and the gedcom stopped, it you would notice carefully, the gedcom being formed is still being added to but nothing is showing on screen. If you don't cancel the operation, the gedcom file will keep on increasing in size until (I supposed) the disk is full. (Dragging and dropping databases or parts of databases is the same operation internally in FO as exporting a gedcom file and then importing it back to the new database.) It sounds like the same thing is happening for you. I don't know what may be causing it ... the long line problem has been fixed ... but all possible gedcom malformations obviously have not been discovered yet. The way I would tackle the problem is to export a gedcom file and watch very closely as it counts the people exported. If the counting stops and hangs, cancel it immediately, note the number where it stops and try to determine which individual it stopped on. Then try exporting a gedcom with only that individual. If you can find the individual whose data is somehow causing the problem, you could delete that person and re-enter his data and hopefully eliminate the problem. But now that you have such a huge database .... you must have tons of duplicated material there. Unless you have a backup from before the trouble started, you probably have lots of work to do to get it straightened out. Wayne League

Send an email to Paul Burchfield, Genealogy.com Technical Support Online Help Center. websupport1@genealogy.com Give him as many of the details of your website as you can, URL your old email address and your username. Ask him to remove it for you. You have to give him enough so that he knows that you are you. I think that the username and password they send out might work for users of FTM, but I have never found them to be of any use to the users of FOW. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Deason" <LDeason@mstar2.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: [FO] Completely removing website > Can someone please tell me how I can completely remove my website from > the Family Origins website system? Since I first registered I have a new > computer, new email address, new everything. I can't remember what my > old info. was. > > I sent a message to the support people and got a reply. I followed their > instructions (they had assigned me a new user name and password), but > even that did not grant me access. > >

Can someone please tell me how I can completely remove my website from the Family Origins website system? Since I first registered I have a new computer, new email address, new everything. I can't remember what my old info. was. I sent a message to the support people and got a reply. I followed their instructions (they had assigned me a new user name and password), but even that did not grant me access.

Charles Gohlke <c.gohlke@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote: >I suppose this falls under the category of WHO CARES? but I'd like to be >able to look at the list, pick the name (alphabet letter) with the latest >date and be able to say to myself "Oh yeah, now I remember. I was working >on the source list, merging individuals, editing notes or whatever." Why not just search for the "date last edited" to be after a certain date? (That is, if you have FO10) That sounds easier .... Wayne League

Thanks to all who responded to my problem with the gigantic FPT files in my FO database. We have been working on it all day and have discovered that the problem is in the multimedia part. I had already printed a list before my first query and had 53 people with 132 pictures. The file had been packed also, but wouldn't pack yesterday as was too big. I also couldn't get Gen. Helper to look at it, as it was too big for it too. We followed Kevin's suggestions and worked back and forth with the files between backups and gedcoms. Thanks, Kevin. When I Gedcommed the database into a new place with multimedia to go also, the file was gigantic and took over 30 min. to transfer. The zip backup was abt 70 times larger than the same database zipped without the multimedia's 132 pictures. So we have narrowed it down to being the multimedia part that has increased the files so much. I tried taking out the later pictures and making gedcoms of the people who had the pictures added sooner, but that didn't work either and each file was still gigantic. We just went back through all the old backups on tape and found that the problem seemed back between 1 June 2002 when the .zip was 1.2 MB and 24 Jun 2002 when it became 4.2 MB without adding that many pictures in between. We are going to check the data on each of those backups by restoring them in different databases and check the # of multimedia items on each, but this will take awhile. We have to go to work tomorrow. This problem was gradually sneaking up apparently, and I didn't get any warning until my section of the hard drive started filling up. My husband regularly defrags all the partitions and checks for space and he didn't notice it either. I have no idea what could have happened between 1 and 24 June. The problem has been accelerating since then and finally almost filled my partition on our hard drive. We never did get a warning from Windows, just noticed that the partition was almost full when I hadn't added that much more during the holidays. Do any of you have any idea why the multimedia would suddenly start showing so many items, 3,562,711 at last count, when there are only 132 pictures in the file? It does sound like the pointers have become messed up, but how? It looks like I'll have to reenter the 132 pictures, but what's to keep this from happening again? This seemed to start after FO 10 had been installed for about 6 months. This has gotten rather long. Thank you all for your suggestions, and I hope you can come up with more to help figure this out. Hope this made sense, as I'm rather tired from dealing with this all day. Thanks all. Marg McEuen

I'd appreciate a copy also. Thanks, Cannon Hassell SUSAN BLANCHARD wrote: > Hi. I am really new at this but if anyone has the Royality gedcom database, > could I please get a copy. Thank you Sue Blanchard susanbla@msn.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "georgia draves" <robinhd@shawneelink.net> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:38 AM > Subject: [FO] royalty database > > > Hello, > > If anyone has the Royalty Database, could I please have a gedcom also? > Thank you. > > Georgia Draves > > <robinhd@shawneelink.net> > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, > etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, > go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/

Kevin, I appreciate your explanation of the FO file extensions and am wondering if you could carry it one step further. I'm referring to the letters of the alphabet in the name. The 35 files in any database consist of: name .FOW nameC.CDX,DBF,FPT nameD.CDX,DBF,FPT nameE.CDX,DBF,FPT nameI.CDX,DBF,FPT nameK.CDX,DBF nameL.CDX,DBF nameM.CDX,DBF,FPT nameP.CDX,DBF,FPT nameR.CDX,DBF nameS.CDX,DBF,FPT nameT.CDX,DBF nameX.CDX,DBF nameY.CDX,DBF,FPT After I've been working on a database for awhile (for a number of sessions spread over weeks), I have a lot of files with different dates. For instance, the three "C" files may have different dates than the three "D" files. Or, the C.CDX and C.DBF files may be newer than the C.FPT file. Many of the file dates remain unchanged from session to session. The net result of all this is that the file dates are spread all over the map with some more than a year apart. I suppose this falls under the category of WHO CARES? but I'd like to be able to look at the list, pick the name (alphabet letter) with the latest date and be able to say to myself "Oh yeah, now I remember. I was working on the source list, merging individuals, editing notes or whatever." Can you, or anyone, shed any light on this subject? Maybe Bruce can tell us. Charles Gohlke

Yes, I've done as Alan said and it works beautifully. Once in WP, it is easy to edit changes or you can just create another list. Have to be careful about editing since it also shows the age of the person, so you'd be better off editing in the short term. J Raymond Cartier wrote: > Is there a way of saving a birthday/anniversary list after making one of selected individuals ??? > Ray -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA The only people who find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders. Foster's Law