RootsMagic 1.0 will have no uploading facility and will not be linked to any web hosting server. You will not be able to upload your pages to the Genealogy.com server as you did with Family Origins. You can create a website, much as you did with Family Origins, but you will have to acquire an FTP program to upload it to a website server that you choose, independent of RootsMagic. Your ISP probably has a small amount of storage available, I have mine on RootsWeb's Freepages. There are others that you can use free of charge and many more that charge a fee. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Guelfo" <guelfog@cox.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite > Maybe this question was answered. Will Roots Magic continue to support the > Family Origins Family Tree Website or have a Similar one? I would like to > continue the updating of mine. > > Gary > >

I have an annoying problem when printing Individual Reports. For some individuals there are large spaces (six or seven lines or more) between the various Facts, yet between others there are none. It's totally inconsistent. I'm reasonably sure this is not a program shortcoming, but rather with the user, namely me. I'm guessing that sometime in the past I may have rewritten the fact information, deleting portions so the new information takes up less space than originally, but this is only a guess. Can this be easily corrected? Is it possible I can leave it as is and have the problem "disappear" when I gedcom the data to RootsMagic which we all are waiting for? If not, which I suspect, I'd like to clean up the problem in FO, with which I am familiar, rather than in the new RM. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Bob Bjorkman

In preparation for Rootsmagic I am examining my SOURCES and I would like to know if there is there a way to obtain a list of SOURCE USAGE as you can for Fact Usuage? David

Maybe this question was answered. Will Roots Magic continue to support the Family Origins Family Tree Website or have a Similar one? I would like to continue the updating of mine. Gary

I believe there are no wall charts in V1.0 of RM so... For the near term if (FO) will also be the means to a wall chart end for RMers (via GEDCOM out and then in). As soon as RM started being talked about I finally upgraded from FO 7 to 10 just to have two 'recent' CD. I now wonder is there more that FO will do for us in the short term? \s\Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Scheimann" <rscheimann@rocketmail.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] We are Discontinued Product users. > If you go to Bruce's site and click through to "order this product" > there is a kinder, gentler version, but the same information: > > http://www.formalsoft.com/orders.htm > > How long will Bruce keep selling FO 10 CDs for someone who might want > to replace a defective one, that type of thing, does anyone know? I'm > thinking I might want a spare just in case. > > Linda Scheimann > > > --- Alfred Eller <adeller@santel.net> wrote: > > Hmmm, We are one of the "Discontinued Products" > > > > I noticed in the Genealogy.com site at: > > http://www.genealogy.com/help/ > > Under Product Questions, "Select your product," Family Origins 10 > > and > > earlier are listed in the section with the discontinued products. > > > > The help section and the knowledge base are still there though. And, > > if I click on the "Shop" button at the bottom of the logo, I see that > > Family Origins is still listed as being for sale. > > > > > > Alfred D. Eller > > Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com > > FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet > > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for > > ordering information. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > ______________________________

I believe that there is a printer program that can be downloaded from a Kinko site that will print to a file that can be saved to a disk and then taken to Kinko's for printing. Rod ===================================== All Mail scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software. ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Turner" <rturner81@houston.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Printing Charts > Marlin, there are printers that will do this. I have one that will print > 24 inches by > 80 feet. (that is not a typo) It uses roll paper for the long ones. This > particular > printer is no longer sold, but you might look on ebay or type "printers > or plotters" > into google and see what you come up with. > > > > > > > > > Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll > > paper > > > printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know > > to print > > > charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of > > sheets > > > together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll > > printer to > > > install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. > > I would > > > print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them > > to print on > > > their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a > driver. > > > > > > Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. > > > Marlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying > > to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message > important > > to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > My very basic Windows beginners help: > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS >

Those were all concocted to denote who the person is, the same as the surname was, and I feel they should be part of the surname. J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Wells" <dwells@chisp.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: [FO] Re: [RMagic] Use of "de" in names This is not really a problem, but a convention. There is no correct answer. Being consistant in your usage is key. As with all compound surnames, you will find different variations in usage and through time. It does not matter if it is De, Fitz, Von, Van, Mac, Mc, etc. Some times it is considered a part of the given names, part of the surname, or run together forming a single surname. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wright" <donwright@footprints.org> To: <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:18 AM Subject: [RMagic] Use of "de" in names > > > Please forgive me, I know this has nothing to do with RM, but I belong to only two Mail Lists RM & FO and have no where to go to ask a dumb question. Although I have delved in genealogy for many years, I still come up with some dumb questions. > > The use of the word "de" has begin to puzzle me. How is it suppose to be entered in the database. Although both ways produce the same printout, the problem comes up when you run a search for the name. > > Example: How is this name suppose to be entered in the database. I use the brackets here to show the way the name is entered. > > [Eleanor] [de Neville] > or > [Eleanor de] [Neville] > > another > > [Henry] [de Percy] > or > [Henry de] [Percy] > > I have always entered the surname as [de Percy] or [de Neville], but many times on other databases I find the same persons listed as Percy or Neville and creates havoc when I try to do a search of a large number of names. > > DonWright@footprints.org > Webmaster of http://footprints.org > "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus" > > > > > > ==== ROOTSMAGIC-USERS Mailing List ==== > RootsMagic Web Site: http://www.rootsmagic.com/ > RootsMagic is a new genealogy program, scheduled for release before January 2003. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

In a message dated 1/16/2003 3:47:54 AM Mountain Standard Time, david.holloway@ntlworld.com writes: > In preparation for Rootsmagic I am examining my SOURCES and I would like to > know if there is there a way to obtain a list of SOURCE USAGE as you can > for Fact Usuage? Do "Lists, Source Manager", highlight the source and click the Print button. It will print all the uses of that source. - Bruce <A HREF="http://www.RootsMagic.com">http://www.RootsMagic.com</A>

I am still working on the gigantic file problem and have discovered an integrity failure in one source in my database that has been growing wildly: "Bad Repository Id - 1 for Source Id 1585". This was found by Genealogical Companion. How do I find the source Id 1585? I did find one source that was entered about the time of the start of the growing file problem that had a Repository address with an e-mail using the symbol @. I read somewhere that this might cause a problem as gedcoms don't know what to do with that symbol. Could this be what put my FO 10 database off track and caused it to grow so rapidly without much new information being added? When I gedcom into a new database from the problem database, and don't gedcom the multimedia part, there are no integrity errors, even in that repository address for source Id 1585, which is still in the new database. That source is attached to a person and not a picture, but doesn't seem to be a problem without the picture links going along in the gedcom. Why not? I don't know whether taking out that repository's (if it is the correct source 1585) e-mail address (or at least the symbol @) would help, or whether I need to start adding pictures back into the database. I'm afraid the problem will start all over again! Thanks for any ideas on what to do next, and for how to find source Ids. Marg McEuen

Hi, From Reports>Lists>Source list, select 'citations' and you have it. (mine is about 150 pages long.) Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hayes" <rayhayes@bigpond.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 05:13 Subject: Re: [FO] Source Usage : Hi David, : : From the Menu Bar, Lists/Source Manager, Click on the Source you want, : then the Print Source button. : : Ray : : At 10:47 AM 16/01/2003 +0000, you wrote: : >In preparation for Rootsmagic I am examining my SOURCES and I would like : >to know if there is there a way to obtain a list of SOURCE USAGE as you : >can for Fact Usuage? : > : >David : > : > : >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : >UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no : >additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com : : Ray Hayes : : Hobart, Tasmania, Australia : : Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE, : ROARK, BOLTON, KAINE, & REDMORE : : : ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm : ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html :

This is not really a problem, but a convention. There is no correct answer. Being consistant in your usage is key. As with all compound surnames, you will find different variations in usage and through time. It does not matter if it is De, Fitz, Von, Van, Mac, Mc, etc. Some times it is considered a part of the given names, part of the surname, or run together forming a single surname. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wright" <donwright@footprints.org> To: <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:18 AM Subject: [RMagic] Use of "de" in names > > > Please forgive me, I know this has nothing to do with RM, but I belong to only two Mail Lists RM & FO and have no where to go to ask a dumb question. Although I have delved in genealogy for many years, I still come up with some dumb questions. > > The use of the word "de" has begin to puzzle me. How is it suppose to be entered in the database. Although both ways produce the same printout, the problem comes up when you run a search for the name. > > Example: How is this name suppose to be entered in the database. I use the brackets here to show the way the name is entered. > > [Eleanor] [de Neville] > or > [Eleanor de] [Neville] > > another > > [Henry] [de Percy] > or > [Henry de] [Percy] > > I have always entered the surname as [de Percy] or [de Neville], but many times on other databases I find the same persons listed as Percy or Neville and creates havoc when I try to do a search of a large number of names. > > DonWright@footprints.org > Webmaster of http://footprints.org > "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus" > > > > > > ==== ROOTSMAGIC-USERS Mailing List ==== > RootsMagic Web Site: http://www.rootsmagic.com/ > RootsMagic is a new genealogy program, scheduled for release before January 2003. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The old bug is raising it's head again. (It is not present in RootsMagic) I think that creating a blank individual and printing a pedigree chart for him is the easiest way to work around it. Give him a given name that is spelled with only the blank character which you enter into his name field by holding down the [Alt] key while typing the number 0160 on the numeric keypad. No last name, no facts of any kind. You can find him in the FOW Explorer because he is before any of the people with last names and he is completely blank. Just select him and print out his Pedigree chart. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther Radcliffe" <eradclif@ix.netcom.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: [FO] Blank Pedigree Chart > Could someone tell me how to print a BLANK PEDIGREE CHART. I'm using V#10 and remember reading sometime back that there was a error on V#10 but they told how you could print the chart. > > Thanks, > Esther

Marlin, there are printers that will do this. I have one that will print 24 inches by 80 feet. (that is not a typo) It uses roll paper for the long ones. This particular printer is no longer sold, but you might look on ebay or type "printers or plotters" into google and see what you come up with. > > > > Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll > paper > > printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know > to print > > charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of > sheets > > together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll > printer to > > install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. > I would > > print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them > to print on > > their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a driver. > > > > Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. > > Marlin > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying > to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important > to your reply. > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > >

Could someone tell me how to print a BLANK PEDIGREE CHART. I'm using V#10 and remember reading sometime back that there was a error on V#10 but they told how you could print the chart. Thanks, Esther All out-going and incoming mail is scanned by NORTON ANTIVIRUS.!!

Go to Kinko's website http://www.kinkos.com/ and check out their prep tool. I haven't tried it, but have heard it works well. John Chapman "THESE are the times that try men's souls.." Thomas Paine 1776 Home Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnjay/ >From: "jrmahan" <jrmahan@worldnet.att.net> >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [FO] Printing Charts >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:41:41 -0800 > > Kinkos.com has a File Prep Tool that may, I say May enable large >format >printing at their store. It installs as a Printer, you select the Chart >and >print , select the Kinkos Printer driver. this saves to <Filename.kft> or >is >it <.kpt>, copy to a floppy and see what they can do with it. >http://kinkos.com > >HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! > >Jim Mahan > >--- http://james.mahan.tripod.com >--- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan >--- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan >--- http://mahanscadsolutions.com > >--- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; >--- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." >--- >--- >President GEORGE W. BUSH > >--- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marlin Aker" <aker@comcast.net> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:10 PM >Subject: [FO] Printing Charts > > > > Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll >paper > > printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know >to print > > charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of >sheets > > together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll >printer to > > install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. >I would > > print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them >to print on > > their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a >driver. > > > > Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. > > Marlin > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying >to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message >important >to your reply. > > > > > > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >My very basic Windows beginners help: >http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm >basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Thank you Rick Crume for a fantastic article on Software Scorecard. Family ORIGINs came out high on the list and was well documented as to what it can do. He did a good job of reviewing 9 software packages. page 38 of the article has a good scorecard. Also there is a write up on RootsMagic. The best comment that I liked in the article was 'Family Origins and The Master Genealogist both do an outstanding job on book-format reports.' page 39. Just what I have been saying for years. I think others would benefit from reading this and other articles in the magazine. Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD, RAMEY, MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE

Check Kinkos. John Ballard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlin Aker" <aker@comcast.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: [FO] Printing Charts > Using FO 10.0, Does anyone know how to print charts to a wide paper roll paper > printer like the units found at Copy Max or Kinkos. The only way I know to print > charts is to my home printer on normal paper and then tape a bunch of sheets > together. It seems to me if I had the driver for the wide paper roll printer to > install on my computer that I could use the driver as a virtual printer. I would > print to file, put the file on a CD and take the CD to Copy Max for them to print on > their wide machine. So far I have not been able to obtain such a driver. > > Is there some other way? Surely some one has figured this out. > Marlin > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > >

Why is Bruce discontinuing this product, it is VERY good, and my friend teaches it to other people? So why is he finishing it? Diane Sowden

Thanks, It does print on one page altho it tell's me it is going to print on 1 1/2 pages. Yvonne jrmahan wrote: > I just did a test and used the default of 2 Inches it didn't work, it cut > off on the 2nd page, I then tried 1.5 Inches and it looks OK. > > HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! > > Jim Mahan > > --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com > --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan > --- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan > --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com > > --- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; > --- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." > --- > --- > President GEORGE W. BUSH > > --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yvonne" <yvonne@monmouth.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:07 PM > Subject: [FO] Relationship Chart > > > I am having trouble getting this chart to print correctly. If I try to > > print from FO screen I am told that it will take 1 1/2 pages. If I copy > > to a blank doc. the left side is cut off. > > It's only 6 people (first cousins, once removed) and only about 3 inches > > wide (1/4 of the paper if put in one corner) so I don't see why there > > is a problem. I have it set to print no boxes and only b &d year. > > Is there something I am over looking? > > Yvonne > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All > messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > > >

Check the "Box width (inches)" slot. If this is set too high, then the chart won't fit on a single page. This demension is used even if "Box style" is set to none. Use a value that gives the desired chart size. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne" <yvonne@monmouth.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: [FO] Relationship Chart > I am having trouble getting this chart to print correctly. If I try to > print from FO screen I am told that it will take 1 1/2 pages. If I copy > to a blank doc. the left side is cut off. > It's only 6 people (first cousins, once removed) and only about 3 inches > wide (1/4 of the paper if put in one corner) so I don't see why there > is a problem. I have it set to print no boxes and only b &d year. > Is there something I am over looking? > Yvonne