In a message dated 1/16/2003 4:19:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ronboy1@msn.com writes: > : There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > > : questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > : on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > : > : Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > : belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? > : > : You yelled at me, Alfred, for posting to both lists!!!! Since I subscribe to both, I get double postings - which isn't a big deal. I read one and delete the other! Anne (Percival) Kruszka

Carol S. of the Irish Hills, MI and I sat down today at our mutual volunteer site today and figured out how to generate an index in WordPerfect. 1. Generate a Rich Text Format (rtf) in FO. 2. Open it in WP. 3. Go to the very end of the report AFTER the word "Index" 4. In WP click on Tools - Reference - Index 5. Define your index 6. Generate the index After you've done this your index will probably be in a large font. Before your first entry, click on the font size you want. Then to put in columns do the following: 1. Click on Format 2. Columns 3. choose number of columns. 4. Click ok. Anne K. Livonia, MI Anne (Percival) Kruszka

In a message dated 1/16/2003 1:20:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, KevinHopkinsSmith@compuserve.com writes: > Anyone know whether Family Tree Super Tools will be usable by purchasers of > RM? > > I use FO9 and FTST has proven to be a very valuable addition for its > chartmaking capabilities. Since RM will be limited (understandably) in its > initial release in the areas of FTST's greatest strengths, it would be nice > to use FTST during the transition from FO to RM. Yes, it works fine. Just use the GEDCOM import option of FTST. It even supports pictures in your wall charts (I just tried it). - Bruce <A HREF="http://www.RootsMagic.com">http://www.RootsMagic.com</A>

Unless there is a contrary reason, I guess I would pick a date (soon) and merge the lists. I think FO questions will fade out over time. Otherwise run parallel. Ron : There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW : questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in : on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. : : Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they : belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? : : : Alfred D. Eller : Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com : FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet : http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm : --------------------------------------------------------------- : : : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: <Dianesowden@aol.com> : To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:23 PM : Subject: [FO] FO VERSION 10 : : : > Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is : discontinued : > does anybody think? : > : > Diane Sowden : > : : : : : ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. :

Let them run parallel for 30 days and then separate the lists. I'll personally unsubscribe to the FO 10 mailing list once I'm sure RM is installed and working. -----Original Message----- From: Alfred Eller [mailto:adeller@santel.net] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:37 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 I think that this mailing list will be around for quite some time. As long as there is enough interest to keep it active. There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dianesowden@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is discontinued > does anybody think? > > Diane Sowden > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply.

Anyone know whether Family Tree Super Tools will be usable by purchasers of RM? I use FO9 and FTST has proven to be a very valuable addition for its chartmaking capabilities. Since RM will be limited (understandably) in its initial release in the areas of FTST's greatest strengths, it would be nice to use FTST during the transition from FO to RM.

I'm using FO9 which I purchased for something like $10 when it was about to be supplanted by FO10. Although RM looks like the right move, I think I should upgrade to FO10 first in case there are problems in the early stages of RM. Is FO10 likely to become available now for something like $10? Where?

Where will Roots Magic be "user-supported" on a list like this one?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Norris" <grnorris@iquest.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > Let them run parallel for 30 days and then separate the lists. I'll > personally unsubscribe to the FO 10 mailing list once I'm sure RM is > installed and working. > ========== =========== ========== It sounds like a good policy to me. I suppose that the 910 subscribers we have right now might be the peak and the subscriber numbers will go down from here. Some people will keep on using FOW for several years yet, so this list will be available to them for some time. P.S. The RootsMagic Web site at: http://www.rootsmagic.com/ RootsMagic mail list instructions: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS.html Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Eller [mailto:adeller@santel.net] > > I think that this mailing list will be around for quite some time. > > As long as there is enough interest to keep it active. > > There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > > Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? > >

If one posts to RM list how is it sent to the FO list, and Visa-Versa, or is Alfred that good.!! :-) HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! Jim Mahan --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ackruszka@wmconnect.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > In a message dated 1/16/2003 4:19:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ronboy1@msn.com writes: > > > > : There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > > > > : questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > > : on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > > : > > : Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > > : belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? > > : > > : > > You yelled at me, Alfred, for posting to both lists!!!! > > Since I subscribe to both, I get double postings - which isn't a big deal. I > read one and delete the other! > > Anne (Percival) Kruszka > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > >

Here are my observations of the subject. 1. I think the FOW list should be gatewayed to the RM list. The bulk of the RM list members are experienced FOW users. This will benefit straggerlers on FOW, new members who were sold FOW, and promote upgrades to RM. 2. Answers for FOW issues on the RM list should be automatically directed to both lists. 3. Conceptually, RM v1 is the logical path from FOW v10. This change will probably be less severe than the changes when FOW 4 went to the redesigned FOW 5. To most users RM v1 = FOW v11, even though this is not the real case. 4. At some point in the near future, the FOW list should become an alias for the RM list Dick > > There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > > Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other?

I think that this mailing list will be around for quite some time. As long as there is enough interest to keep it active. There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dianesowden@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is discontinued > does anybody think? > > Diane Sowden >

Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is discontinued does anybody think? Diane Sowden

Way to go Bruce!!! :-) HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! Jim Mahan --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan --- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com --- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; --- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." --- --- President GEORGE W. BUSH --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" ----- Original Message ----- From: <FormalSoft@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Family Tree Super Tools & RM > In a message dated 1/16/2003 1:20:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, > KevinHopkinsSmith@compuserve.com writes: > > > Anyone know whether Family Tree Super Tools will be usable by purchasers of > > RM? > > > > I use FO9 and FTST has proven to be a very valuable addition for its > > chartmaking capabilities. Since RM will be limited (understandably) in its > > initial release in the areas of FTST's greatest strengths, it would be nice > > to use FTST during the transition from FO to RM. > > Yes, it works fine. Just use the GEDCOM import option of FTST. It even > supports pictures in your wall charts (I just tried it). > > - Bruce > <A HREF="http://www.RootsMagic.com">http://www.RootsMagic.com</A> > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > >

In my very humble opinion, most RMers were once FOers and possibly found out about RM from the FO list. Once RM is in the hands of all of us, questions and situation will be indicative of RM and not really apply to FO. By the same token anything RM would have no place on the FO list. For right now it is almost understandable that there is some mixing especially during the transition, but after an allotted time that you feel is reasonable, there will be no need for cross posting. What is on the list should take the hint from the name of the list. You allow enough OT to redirect someone who gets lost. For myself, I believe I'll be unsubbing from FO shortly after I get RM. J Alfred Eller wrote: > I think that this mailing list will be around for quite some time. > > As long as there is enough interest to keep it active. > > There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > > Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? > > > Alfred D. Eller -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA The only people who find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders. Foster's Law

Once we have created the website and have an ftp program, what are the steps to upload it to or link it to another site? For instance, a page at Freepages or Geocities. J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cann" <decann@hotmail.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite You will not be able to upload your pages >to the Genealogy.com server as you did with Family Origins. IMHO, you are better off somewhere else, other than Genealogy.com anyway, and for several reasons not worth going into on the list. If you look into this list's archives, though, you will find a whole string of reasons for leaving that server. It took me a long time to finally walk away myself, but once I did it I never for a fleeting moment ever regretted it. I personally use RootsWeb (for free) and like them for many reasons, but there are a number of others out there that are also very good. It will require some new learning, and perhaps some new software if you do not have any FTP software installed, but in time you will be glad you did it. David E. Cann decann@infi.net >From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:03:10 -0600 > >RootsMagic 1.0 will have no uploading facility and will not be linked >to any web hosting server. You will not be able to upload your pages >to the Genealogy.com server as you did with Family Origins. > >You can create a website, much as you did with Family Origins, but you >will have to acquire an FTP program to upload it to a website server >that you choose, independent of RootsMagic. > >Your ISP probably has a small amount of storage available, I have mine >on RootsWeb's Freepages. There are others that you can use free of >charge and many more that charge a fee. > > >Alfred D. Eller >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ >===================================== > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Guelfo" <guelfog@cox.net> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:15 AM >Subject: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite > > > > Maybe this question was answered. Will Roots Magic continue to >support the > > Family Origins Family Tree Website or have a Similar one? I would >like to > > continue the updating of mine. > > > > Gary _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

I would add, 30 days from 1 March. HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! Jim Mahan --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan --- http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jrmahan --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com --- "WE WILL NOT WAIVER, WE WILL NOT TIRE, WE WILL NOT FALTER; --- AND WE WILL NOT FAIL. PEACE AND FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL." --- --- President GEORGE W. BUSH --- "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Norris" <grnorris@iquest.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: RE: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > Let them run parallel for 30 days and then separate the lists. I'll > personally unsubscribe to the FO 10 mailing list once I'm sure RM is > installed and working. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Eller [mailto:adeller@santel.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:37 PM > To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > > I think that this mailing list will be around for quite some time. > > As long as there is enough interest to keep it active. > > There is one little problem though. There have been an quite a few FOW > questions on the RM list. If that persists, the FOW users won't be in > on all of the discussion unless they are on both lists. > > Should I tell the FOW posters on the RM list to go back to where they > belong? Or, should I let the two lists run parallel to each other? > > > Alfred D. Eller > Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com > FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Dianesowden@aol.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > > > > Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is > discontinued > > does anybody think? > > > > Diane Sowden > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to > a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to > your reply. > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > >

You will not be able to upload your pages >to the Genealogy.com server as you did with Family Origins. IMHO, you are better off somewhere else, other than Genealogy.com anyway, and for several reasons not worth going into on the list. If you look into this list's archives, though, you will find a whole string of reasons for leaving that server. It took me a long time to finally walk away myself, but once I did it I never for a fleeting moment ever regretted it. I personally use RootsWeb (for free) and like them for many reasons, but there are a number of others out there that are also very good. It will require some new learning, and perhaps some new software if you do not have any FTP software installed, but in time you will be glad you did it. David E. Cann decann@infi.net >From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:03:10 -0600 > >RootsMagic 1.0 will have no uploading facility and will not be linked >to any web hosting server. You will not be able to upload your pages >to the Genealogy.com server as you did with Family Origins. > >You can create a website, much as you did with Family Origins, but you >will have to acquire an FTP program to upload it to a website server >that you choose, independent of RootsMagic. > >Your ISP probably has a small amount of storage available, I have mine >on RootsWeb's Freepages. There are others that you can use free of >charge and many more that charge a fee. > > >Alfred D. Eller >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ >===================================== > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Guelfo" <guelfog@cox.net> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:15 AM >Subject: [FO] Roots Magic WebSite > > > > Maybe this question was answered. Will Roots Magic continue to >support the > > Family Origins Family Tree Website or have a Similar one? I would >like to > > continue the updating of mine. > > > > Gary _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Diane A lot of us FOers will be RMers. I have no idea what others are going to do. I've loved using FO, but if RM is all that I expect it to be, my FO will be pretty much retired after a reasonable amount of time. Interesting question. J Dianesowden@aol.com wrote: > Will we still be able to get support of this list, when FO10 is discontinued > does anybody think? > > Diane Sowden > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA The only people who find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders. Foster's Law

Bob, I had this happen quite a bit, also. And yes, it usually is because of what you said. Go into the fact source for that individual, click somewhere below your text in the blank area, and hit the backspace button on your keyboard until the cursor backs up to the end of your last bit of text. This will eliminate the extra spacing between facts. (If you decide you want ONE blank line between each fact, then ALWAYS end your text with one extra enter-key depression.) As for RM, the problem will still be there. Spaces and enter-key depressions are considered part of the text. Sue Bob BJORKMAN wrote: > I have an annoying problem when printing Individual Reports. For some > individuals there are large spaces (six or seven lines or more) > between the various Facts, yet between others there are none. It's > totally inconsistent. I'm reasonably sure this is not a program > shortcoming, but rather with the user, namely me. > > I'm guessing that sometime in the past I may have rewritten the fact > information, deleting portions so the new information takes up less > space than originally, but this is only a guess. Can this be easily > corrected? Is it possible I can leave it as is and have the problem > "disappear" when I gedcom the data to RootsMagic which we all are > waiting for? If not, which I suspect, I'd like to clean up the problem > in FO, with which I am familiar, rather than in the new RM. > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > Bob Bjorkman > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, > etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they > fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > >