Peter, > As a user of FOW, (I started with V6 and upgraded each year to V10) > could anybody advise me as to the best way to purchase RootsMagic in > the UK. in order to take advantage of the introductory price. RootsMagic will not be available for purchase anywhere in the UK, at least not in the near future. > Here > in the UK. FOW has only been available from specialist Genealogical > dealers and they tend to be late in getting supplies and are a bit > more expensive. We purchase Family Origins (and Family Tree Maker) direct from the manufacturers Genealogy.com, as as such have had new versions in stock here in the UK the same day as they are released in the USA. We shall continue to provide free technical support to our Family Origins customers forever. Trevor Rix TWR Computing Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 sales@twrcomputing.co.uk support@twrcomputing.co.uk http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk

I have recently upgraded from FO v7 to FO v10. I have used the facility to put in some family group photos attached to a parent. That's fine but having done it there seems to be no visual indication on Tree View or Family View that a family scrapbook exists (unlike the individual photos). So I have made a note in the parent's 'Individual Note' saying that there is a Family Scrapbook. Does anyone have a better idea please? Alan Jones, Cheshire, UK

So, why don't you order directly from Bruce at http://www.rootsmagic.com Go to that web site and look at the order blank. J Trevor Rix wrote: > Peter, > > >>As a user of FOW, (I started with V6 and upgraded each year to V10) >>could anybody advise me as to the best way to purchase RootsMagic in >>the UK. in order to take advantage of the introductory price. > > > RootsMagic will not be available for purchase anywhere in the UK, at > least not in the near future. > > >>Here >>in the UK. FOW has only been available from specialist Genealogical >>dealers and they tend to be late in getting supplies and are a bit >>more expensive. > > > We purchase Family Origins (and Family Tree Maker) direct from the > manufacturers Genealogy.com, as as such have had new versions in stock > here in the UK the same day as they are released in the USA. > > We shall continue to provide free technical support to our Family > Origins customers forever. > > Trevor Rix > TWR Computing > Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians > Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom > telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 > sales@twrcomputing.co.uk > support@twrcomputing.co.uk > http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA He who would pursue revenge should first dig two graves.

Individual scrapbooks can be included in a FO 10 Journal and marriage scrapbooks cannot. I didn't use the marriage scrapbooks, though they would have been useful for larger size images. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Rosemary Jones" > I have recently upgraded from FO v7 to FO v10. I have used the facility > to put in some family group photos attached to a parent. That's fine but > having done it there seems to be no visual indication on Tree View or > Family View that a family scrapbook exists (unlike the individual > photos).

Oh the cheek of Gen.com not offering support after June 2003 to any FO user. (mind you as a registered user of FO they have yet to email me to tell me this) And why anyone would want to use FTM (any version) is beyond me. So it looks like I will keep an eye on the new RM and see how it goes and as I live in Australia will have to wait till it comes Downunder to buy anyway (and at a dearer price - sigh!!)so will give me time to see what all you people think of it. But I bet it beats FTM handsdown too. Thank Alfred for the support you give not only here but also on the Gen.com FO forum. Nori in Sth Australia

Yvonne-- What works for me is to use the Military Fact then put the known details, which are usually skimpy and variable, into the Military Fact Note. It then will read: He (or she) served in the military. Edward was a Sergeant in the U.S. Army Infantry. A bit choppy, but one can then identify everyone with a military fact should that be needed. --Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: Yvonne To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [FO] Military Service Fact I was wondering how FO users inter the Military Service information. I can't seem to get the wording to come out right. Yvonne ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space.

Any fact can enter more than once for a given individual. Therefore it is possible to enter the military fact as many times as necessary to meet your requirements. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Wonders" <swonders@home.ffni.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Re: Military Service Information > But how do you enter more than one term of service that when they were not > consecutive? This was quite common in the wars Revolution, 1812, and the > Civil War. It is not unknown today. I had a brother-in- law who served in > both the Army and the Navy. I have resulted to skipping this fact in favor > of individual notes. Perhaps sometime in the future RM will allow us to use > a fact more than once.

But how do you enter more than one term of service that when they were not consecutive? This was quite common in the wars Revolution, 1812, and the Civil War. It is not unknown today. I had a brother-in- law who served in both the Army and the Navy. I have resulted to skipping this fact in favor of individual notes. Perhaps sometime in the future RM will allow us to use a fact more than once. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JStubbs100@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:40 PM Subject: [FO] Re: Military Service Information > In a message dated 1/16/03 7:25:55 PM Central Standard Time, > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << > I was wondering how FO users inter the Military Service information. I > can't seem to get the wording to come out right. >> > > I enter the dates of service, e.g., June 1863-April 1865 in the Date field > and in the place field, I use the name of the war preceding by "the," e.g., > "the Civil War." Using "the" before the name of the war makes a smoother > sentence when printing a book. > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > >

In a message dated 1/16/03 7:25:55 PM Central Standard Time, FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I was wondering how FO users inter the Military Service information. I can't seem to get the wording to come out right. >> I enter the dates of service, e.g., June 1863-April 1865 in the Date field and in the place field, I use the name of the war preceding by "the," e.g., "the Civil War." Using "the" before the name of the war makes a smoother sentence when printing a book.

I, personally, like a user defined fact better than the standard fact for Military Service. The standard fact does not allow the use of the description field, which you can enable in a fact that you define yourself. When I do a place list, I don't like to see some of the things that I have imported with GEDCOMS, so I don't like to put anything but places in the place field. I have added "Enlisted" and "Discharged" I suppose I could add "Drafted" and/or "Conscripted" too. Just one way to do it: I added 1 day to the enlistment date for the military service start date so they would stay in sequence. Sentence structure: He Enlisted in the United States Air Force on Jan 17, 1955 in Sioux Falls, Minnehaha Co., South Dakota. He served in the military from Jan 18, 1955 to Nov 16, 1958 (leave the place field blank and add the list of places in the note, it seems to flow better, in my opinion.) He was discharged from the USAF on Nov 16, 1958 in Sacramento, Sacramento Co., CA. With RootsMagic you will have a few more options for arranging your sentence structure. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne" <yvonne@monmouth.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: [FO] Military Service Fact > I was wondering how FO users inter the Military Service information. I > can't seem to get the wording to come out right. > Yvonne

Hi Sam, Didn't know there was a restriction on the number to times a fact can be used. I have lived in about 20 locations and every one is shown in its own fact. (Repetitious use of 'Lived') ??? Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Wonders" <swonders@home.ffni.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 14:56 Subject: Re: [FO] Re: Military Service Information : But how do you enter more than one term of service that when they were not : consecutive? This was quite common in the wars Revolution, 1812, and the : Civil War. It is not unknown today. I had a brother-in- law who served in : both the Army and the Navy. I have resulted to skipping this fact in favor : of individual notes. Perhaps sometime in the future RM will allow us to use : a fact more than once. : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: <JStubbs100@aol.com> : To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:40 PM : Subject: [FO] Re: Military Service Information : : : > In a message dated 1/16/03 7:25:55 PM Central Standard Time, : > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: : > : > << : > I was wondering how FO users inter the Military Service information. I : > can't seem to get the wording to come out right. >> : > : > I enter the dates of service, e.g., June 1863-April 1865 in the Date field : > and in the place field, I use the name of the war preceding by "the," : e.g., : > "the Civil War." Using "the" before the name of the war makes a smoother : > sentence when printing a book. : > : > : > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ : > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ : > : > : : : ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : Searchable ARCHIVES - : http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGI NS-USERS :

No more work than moving your main database! ----Original Message Follows---- From: Don Wright <donwright@footprints.org> To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:28:25 -0800 I agree.... Although I will be switching to RM, I will still have and no doubt use FO as I have many databases that I converted to FO from my PAF days. My primary database will move to RM but it would be too much work to move all the rest. I vote to keep them separate. I have subscribed to both user groups and will continue to read both. User since version 3.? DonWright@footprints.org Webmaster of http://footprints.org "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus" ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. E. Golden" <legolden@pldi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > My two cents: > I believe both lists, FOW and RootsMagic, should continue as separate and individual lists. > Many will continue to use FOW, even if they also purchase and use RM. Then some will continue to use FOW exclusively, and some will use both programs. > To me it would be mixing Apples & Oranges. > I vote to keep the lists unique to the programs. > Larry > [User Since V.4.0] ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ Anne (Percival) Kruszka _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanks to all of you who answered my question, both on and off the list. Those who subscribe to these two lists are among the most helpful folks I've encountered. Thanks again. Dixie > -----Original Message----- > From: Dixie Endsley [mailto:dendsley@wic.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:41 AM > To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RMagic] FO7 to RM <snip> Will there be any difficulty transferring from FO7? Dixie

I agree.... Although I will be switching to RM, I will still have and no doubt use FO as I have many databases that I converted to FO from my PAF days. My primary database will move to RM but it would be too much work to move all the rest. I vote to keep them separate. I have subscribed to both user groups and will continue to read both. User since version 3.? DonWright@footprints.org Webmaster of http://footprints.org "All Incoming and Outgoing Mail is Scanned with Norton Anti-Virus" ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. E. Golden" <legolden@pldi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO VERSION 10 > My two cents: > I believe both lists, FOW and RootsMagic, should continue as separate and individual lists. > Many will continue to use FOW, even if they also purchase and use RM. Then some will continue to use FOW exclusively, and some will use both programs. > To me it would be mixing Apples & Oranges. > I vote to keep the lists unique to the programs. > Larry > [User Since V.4.0]

Since the transfer will be via GEDCOM, my impression is that there will be little if any difference what version creates it, the transfer will go without a problem. I will bow to a better answer from some of the experts out there, but I think that is a correct statement. David E. Cann decann@infi.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Dixie Endsley [mailto:dendsley@wic.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:41 AM > To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RMagic] FO7 to RM > > > Someone asked if there were going to be any problems using an "older" > version of FO to transfer information into RM, and I never saw the answer > (doesn't mean it wasn't given, just that I seem to have missed it!) > > Will there be any difficulty transferring from FO7? > > Dixie

Peter, I ordered mine from the website with the book too: http://www.rootsmagic.com Previously I'd bought FO from TWR Computing but they can't help this time around it seems. Jim Amesbury, Wilts, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Rix" <trevor@twrcomputing.co.uk> To: <jtfuller@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: RootsMagic > Jim, > > Sorry, but dealers/resellers such as ourselves do not have access to > supplies of RootsMagic at present. Thank you very much for asking > though. > > Trevor Rix > TWR Computing > Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians > Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom > telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 > sales@twrcomputing.co.uk support@twrcomputing.co.uk > http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk > > > > Having purchased Family Origins from you in the past, can I expect > > that you'll be selling the forthcoming replacement "Rootsmagic" by > > the same author. If so, can you say what price as I see that the > > RootsMagic site is offering an intro price until the end of Feb 03? > > > > Jim Fuller > > jtfuller@btinternet.com > > > > > the introductory price ($19.95) is good thru Feb 28, 2003. After > > > that it goes to the regular price of $34.95 (which includes RootsMagic > > and > > > PlaceFinder). > > > > > > - Bruce > > > http://www.RootsMagic.com > >

I think that would be a waste of money, Kevin. Yes, v. 10 has some features that we have enjoyed but you're going to be too busy getting into RM to mess with v. 10 and your gedcoms will transfer just as easily from 9 as from10 and 9 does the basic job just fine if you need to use it until an unforseen bug gets ironed out. Good Hunting! -- Paul aka Graveseeker on Geocaching.com where YOU are the search engine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Hopkins Smith" <KevinHopkinsSmith@compuserve.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [FO] FO 10; available for cheap? > I'm using FO9 which I purchased for something like $10 when it was about to > be supplanted by FO10. > > Although RM looks like the right move, I think I should upgrade to FO10 > first in case there are problems in the early stages of RM. Is FO10 likely > to become available now for something like $10? Where? >

Kevin wrote: > Is FO10 likely to become available now for something like $10? Where? I'm sure the "excess inventory" at Genealogy.com will get remaindered out to someone, and be offered "cheap" at auction or other site. You can find all sorts of Family Origins CD's on ebay.com; New copies of Ver 4, 6, 9 are all available for under $10, some as low as GBP 0.99 [US$ 1.60] from a Surrey seller in UK. Mike RANSOM

As a user of FOW, (I started with V6 and upgraded each year to V10) could anybody advise me as to the best way to purchase RootsMagic in the UK. in order to take advantage of the introductory price. Here in the UK. FOW has only been available from specialist Genealogical dealers and they tend to be late in getting supplies and are a bit more expensive. Peter Jordan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/Dec/02

When you order through www.rootsmagic.com, you are ordering directly from the developer. Anne (Percival) Kruszka Researching Bowman, Carter, Chinn, Kettler, Kirtley, Klijewski, Knost, Kruszka, Maitland, Meyer, Oliphant, Percival, Synos, Webb, Zalot, & Zimmeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Fuller" <jtfuller@btinternet.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [FO] RootsMagic in UK > Peter, > > I ordered mine from the website with the book too: > http://www.rootsmagic.com > Previously I'd bought FO from TWR Computing but they can't help this > time around it seems. > > Jim > Amesbury, Wilts, UK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Rix" <trevor@twrcomputing.co.uk> > To: <jtfuller@btinternet.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: RootsMagic > > > > Jim, > > > > Sorry, but dealers/resellers such as ourselves do not have access to > > supplies of RootsMagic at present. Thank you very much for asking > > though. > > > > Trevor Rix > > TWR Computing > > Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians > > Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom > > telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 > > sales@twrcomputing.co.uk support@twrcomputing.co.uk > > http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk > > > > > > > Having purchased Family Origins from you in the past, can I expect > > > that you'll be selling the forthcoming replacement "Rootsmagic" by > > > the same author. If so, can you say what price as I see that the > > > RootsMagic site is offering an intro price until the end of Feb 03? > > > > > > Jim Fuller > > > jtfuller@btinternet.com > > > > > > > the introductory price ($19.95) is good thru Feb 28, 2003. After > > > > that it goes to the regular price of $34.95 (which includes > RootsMagic > > > and > > > > PlaceFinder). > > > > > > > > - Bruce > > > > http://www.RootsMagic.com > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ >