The file that you need to delete to get Family Origins to load again is in the Windows folder, "FOWIN32.INI" for any FOWIN after 6. Deleting the CDX files for that one database should be enough, and maybe just that one, BBBBL.CDX in the folder C/MSSET/NYDOCUMENTS/BIGONE/ But you could delete all thirteen of the BBBB?.CDX files. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FO] file errors > The database appears to have become corrupted due to > your computer getting shut off during packing. > > I would try going into the directory with the data files > and deleting the cdx (index) files. Once you do that the > program may simply rebuild the indexes. > > If you cannot get FO to open, you may also need to > delete the FOWIN.INI file from your WINDOWS subdirectory. > > If the above steps do not work, restore your backup and > you should be fine. The reason the program reminds you to > backup before packing is to help you get back to business if > something happens during the packing process. > > Margaret Scheffler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ROlson1062@aol.com> > > > Can someone help with some codebase error messages I get > from Fowin; > > lst I get-Codebase error: > > error #-70 > > Reading File > > file4read error > > C/MSSET/NYDOCUMENTS/BIGONE/BBBBL.CDX > > 0 16 > > file4read AllLow > > > > Then I get another codebase error: > > Error # -310 > > Error # 91642 > > Nor a Correct Index file > > tfile 4..... > > Then I get a final message; > > Code base error > > Error# -935 > > Error # 94001 > > Null Input Parameter > > unexpected d4field > > Then the program closes. > > > > This happened when I was packing the database and the > computer unexpectedly got shut off. > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORI GINS-USERS >

I saw your response last week and was really pleased that this bug is not in RM. At least I will be glad when I get RM. I am especially anxious to see what Bruce has done with the To-Do lists which I use faithfully. Anne (Percival) Kruszka Researching Bowman, Carter, Chinn, Kettler, Kirtley, Klijewski, Knost, Kruszka, Maitland, Meyer, Oliphant, Percival, Synos, Webb, Zalot, & Zimmeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [FO] New Rootsmagic > I answered the same question last Thursday, I just copied this from > the list archives at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORI > GINS-USERS > > The old bug is raising it's head again. (It is not present in > RootsMagic) > > I think that creating a blank individual and printing a pedigree chart > for him is the easiest way to work around it. > > Give him a given name that is spelled with only the blank character > which you enter into his name field by holding down the [Alt] key > while typing the number 0160 on the numeric keypad. No last name, no > facts of any kind. You can find him in the FOW Explorer because he is > before any of the people with last names and he is completely blank. > > Just select him and print out his Pedigree chart. > > > Alfred D. Eller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ > ===================================== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> > To: <stinylouroy@comcast.net>; <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:19 PM > Subject: Re: [FO] New Rootsmagic > > > > From: > > http://www.rootsmagic.com/orders.htm > > > > Although RootsMagic is scheduled to ship in late January, we are > > offering it for those who want to order it early (for yourself or a > > friend). It is available at the introductory price of $19.95 plus > > shipping/handling (the price of RootsMagic will be $34.95 after > > February 28th, 2003). > > > > > > Alfred D. Eller > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ > > ===================================== > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <stinylouroy@comcast.net> > > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:47 PM > > Subject: [FO] New Rootsmagic > > > > > > > Is the introductory price and offer still in effect for the new > > Roots Magic? > > > M L > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. >

Can someone help with some codebase error messages I get from Fowin; lst I get-Codebase error: error #-70 Reading File file4read error C/MSSET/NYDOCUMENTS/BIGONE/BBBBL.CDX 0 16 file4read AllLow Then I get another codebase error: Error # -310 Error # 91642 Nor a Correct Index file tfile 4..... Then I get a final message; Code base error Error# -935 Error # 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4field Then the program closes. This happened when I was packing the database and the computer unexpectedly got shut off. Thanks for any help Bob Olson

I am using FO v 7 and I think I need to purchase soon the new program that is being discussed...but in the meantime, can someone tell me how to import a gedcom...I d/l it to a floppy from e-mail...I went to "file" "import gedcom"....it "opened" showing that it had 400+ names in it; but it only wants to save to the a drive; I cannot get it into My Doc. I have done this before...a long time ago...and I guess I need step by step directions...is someone patient enough to help? E-mail me direct, if you wish.... Will the manual for RM explain such for pc dummies like me? thanks.. Carol in freezing South Florida....

If I remember correctly, you have to close the program, and make the copy immediately as the program opens -- open program -> print form -> edit other "stuff" Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Martin [mailto:martinjo@lewisu.edu] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:12 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] FO 10.0 question I have been using FO 10.0 for some time. Only recently I tried to print out a 5 generation blank form Pedigree Chart. Once click on Pedigree Chart 5 Generation, the screen flashes, but nothing comes up to print the form. Without the print screen, I have not able able to print any blank forms. The other blank forms seem to print out just fine. Can anyone offer some help? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, IL ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information.

I answered the same question last Thursday, I just copied this from the list archives at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORI GINS-USERS The old bug is raising it's head again. (It is not present in RootsMagic) I think that creating a blank individual and printing a pedigree chart for him is the easiest way to work around it. Give him a given name that is spelled with only the blank character which you enter into his name field by holding down the [Alt] key while typing the number 0160 on the numeric keypad. No last name, no facts of any kind. You can find him in the FOW Explorer because he is before any of the people with last names and he is completely blank. Just select him and print out his Pedigree chart. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> To: <stinylouroy@comcast.net>; <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [FO] New Rootsmagic > From: > http://www.rootsmagic.com/orders.htm > > Although RootsMagic is scheduled to ship in late January, we are > offering it for those who want to order it early (for yourself or a > friend). It is available at the introductory price of $19.95 plus > shipping/handling (the price of RootsMagic will be $34.95 after > February 28th, 2003). > > > Alfred D. Eller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ > ===================================== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <stinylouroy@comcast.net> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:47 PM > Subject: [FO] New Rootsmagic > > > > Is the introductory price and offer still in effect for the new > Roots Magic? > > M L > > > > >

From: http://www.rootsmagic.com/orders.htm Although RootsMagic is scheduled to ship in late January, we are offering it for those who want to order it early (for yourself or a friend). It is available at the introductory price of $19.95 plus shipping/handling (the price of RootsMagic will be $34.95 after February 28th, 2003). Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <stinylouroy@comcast.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: [FO] New Rootsmagic > Is the introductory price and offer still in effect for the new Roots Magic? > M L >

I have been using FO 10.0 for some time. Only recently I tried to print out a 5 generation blank form Pedigree Chart. Once click on Pedigree Chart 5 Generation, the screen flashes, but nothing comes up to print the form. Without the print screen, I have not able able to print any blank forms. The other blank forms seem to print out just fine. Can anyone offer some help? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, IL

Is the introductory price and offer still in effect for the new Roots Magic? M L

One thing I do like about FTM is the ability to print the whole family tree i.e. all entries in my file to see how they interlink. Is this possible in FO? Elaine Tunbridge

I have FO 9.02. I want a list of all my people followed by a list of each source referred to. ie Richard Croker: Birth Cert: Marriage Cert: 1981 Census: 1991 census etc. John Croker: Baptism cert: 1971 census: marriage cert: 1981 cesus etc etc. In Reports, Lists, Source lists, with option of Citations, it creates a list of sources, with an alphabetical list of all people who have a citation in that Source: and then next source with a list of people etc. Is it possible to do it the other way round, which is what I want? In Report, Custom Report, Design new report, we cannot bring up Source as a field. In Report, Note/Sources, Individual, with all options checked (ticked) it does not actually give the source (eg Birth Cert) and would need to be done for each individual separately. Is this request possible in RootsMagic? Richard Croker UK http://www.c4g2fh.34sp.com/ PS In the past a private individual created "bolt on" programmes that could abstract data from FO files and create other Reports. (one needed Access, I think, to be able to do so.) Will it be possible for Bruce to create "extras", which we could pay for if necessary, for RootsMagic, if there was a big enough demand for an extra facility?

Joyce, The confusion arises from the original subject line of "RootsMagic in UK" where both programs were discussed. I was continuing the thread, but only mentioned Genealogy.com regarding Family Origins, not regarding RootsMagic. I was not asking about RootsMagic, but was responding to the original message from Peter. Trevor Rix > Your response would make perfect sense if you are talking about FO, > but I was looking at your subject line and thought you were asking > about RootsMagic. > > J > > Trevor Rix wrote: > > Joyce, > > > > > >>So, why don't you order directly from Bruce at > >>http://www.rootsmagic.com > >> > >>Go to that web site and look at the order blank. > > > > > > Because, like Bruce (Formalsoft), we buy Family Origins in bulk from > > Genealogy.com who are the manufacturers and distributors of Family > > Origins. > > > > Reference: Bruce's recent message > > "No, we have to buy FO ourselves from genealogy.com to resell, > > and now that they've discontinued it..." > > > > Trevor > > > > > >>Trevor Rix wrote: > >> > >>>Peter, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>As a user of FOW, (I started with V6 and upgraded each year to V10) > >>>>could anybody advise me as to the best way to purchase RootsMagic in > >>>>the UK. in order to take advantage of the introductory price. > >>> > >>> > >>>RootsMagic will not be available for purchase anywhere in the UK, at > >>>least not in the near future. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Here > >>>>in the UK. FOW has only been available from specialist Genealogical > >>>>dealers and they tend to be late in getting supplies and are a bit > >>>>more expensive. > >>> > >>> > >>>We purchase Family Origins (and Family Tree Maker) direct from the > >>>manufacturers Genealogy.com, as as such have had new versions in stock > >>>here in the UK the same day as they are released in the USA. > >>> > >>>We shall continue to provide free technical support to our Family > >>>Origins customers forever. > >>> > >>>Trevor Rix > >>>TWR Computing > >>>Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians > >>>Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom > >>>telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 > >>>sales@twrcomputing.co.uk > >>>support@twrcomputing.co.uk > >>>http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk > >>> > >>> > >>>==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > >>>The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > >>>Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Joyce Ragels > >>Tucson Arizona USA > >> > >>He who would pursue revenge should first dig two graves. > >> > >>______________________________ > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > > > > > > > -- > Joyce Ragels > Tucson Arizona USA > > A fellow who is always declaring that he is no fool usually harbors > suspicions to the contrary. > > ______________________________

Margaret, > Bruce will be selling RM, NOT Genealogy.com. Correct. > So should > not everyone be able to buy directly from him, including > distributors who need copies in bulk? Unfortunately distributors/dealers/resellers are not able to purchase RootsMagic in bulk at present, but hopefully that may change. Trevor Rix

My thanks to all who replied both on and off the list. I have taken the unanimous advise and ordered RootsMagic from the website. Peter Jordan. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/Dec/02

If you want to subscribe to the RootsMagic Users mail list, Go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS.html for complete instructions. Or, you can just send an email to: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com with only the word "subscribe" in the subject line and in the body of the message. Unless you would rather receive the digest, in which case you only need to change the "-L-" to "-D-" in the above URL Alfred D. Eller Family-Origins-Users-admin@RootsWeb.com FOW fact diagnostic tool, using Excel Spreadsheet http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/FOFacts.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------

Joyce, > So, why don't you order directly from Bruce at > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > Go to that web site and look at the order blank. Because, like Bruce (Formalsoft), we buy Family Origins in bulk from Genealogy.com who are the manufacturers and distributors of Family Origins. Reference: Bruce's recent message "No, we have to buy FO ourselves from genealogy.com to resell, and now that they've discontinued it..." Trevor > Trevor Rix wrote: > > Peter, > > > > > >>As a user of FOW, (I started with V6 and upgraded each year to V10) > >>could anybody advise me as to the best way to purchase RootsMagic in > >>the UK. in order to take advantage of the introductory price. > > > > > > RootsMagic will not be available for purchase anywhere in the UK, at > > least not in the near future. > > > > > >>Here > >>in the UK. FOW has only been available from specialist Genealogical > >>dealers and they tend to be late in getting supplies and are a bit > >>more expensive. > > > > > > We purchase Family Origins (and Family Tree Maker) direct from the > > manufacturers Genealogy.com, as as such have had new versions in stock > > here in the UK the same day as they are released in the USA. > > > > We shall continue to provide free technical support to our Family > > Origins customers forever. > > > > Trevor Rix > > TWR Computing > > Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians > > Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom > > telephone 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 > > sales@twrcomputing.co.uk > > support@twrcomputing.co.uk > > http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > > > > > > -- > Joyce Ragels > Tucson Arizona USA > > He who would pursue revenge should first dig two graves. > > ______________________________

A couple things in addition to the points that Margaret makes is the extreme annoyance at trying to delete or merge a person. In FO if you select the person and hit delete you get a dialog box asking if you are sure and if you acknowledge yes, that person is history. FTM treats you like a moron and you can't really be sure you want to delete a person. Also after you have combined data from an old FTM file and want to delete it, it is impossible. Again more moron treatment. There is a decided lack of standard facts that are missing in FTM and if you try to import data from one of them, it is very easy to lose data. There is a place list and a source list in FO that is very easy to manage so that all of your places read the same and not like Kewaunee Co.;Kewaunee County; Kewaunee co, or Kewaunee Co, and all the other iterations that you can come up combining a city, county, state and a few hospitals or cemeteries, churches not to mention hundreds of ways to abbreviate a state either by typos or spelling mistakes. Bottom line: I would never use FTM instead of FO. I am awaiting RM, not because FO is missing anything but because you can always have more goodies. Please write if you need more about FO. Ron ronboy1@msn.com

Does FO 10 have a search of "any and all text fields" for a custom report? Added midwife to a 12,000 name file and counted 1, 2 by the time the Custom Report was displayed. 28 people had DAR in text fields for sources after the individuals with names that included dar letters were removed. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Studly" > Ask yourself, if there is a midwife or DAR member in your database, what > process you would use in FTM to ferret out the person.

>>I am quite knew to this LIST but not knew to genealogy. At present I have close to 2000 names and 430 marriages with numerous photos and notes in my Family Tree Maker version 10 data base. Since I joined this LIST I have heard positive comments related to FOW10 as well as the Rootsmagic software. I have exported my FTM data to the FO V3, (for a trail run) which I have had previously to adopting the FTM 10. Thus I am not totally strange to the FO software. Is there anyone out there that has experience with the FTM as well as the FOW10 that can give any advice on the benefits of FOW over FTM? Any comments will be appreciated. Fred<< For starters review these URLs http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/rcardtable.htm Software Comparison Report Card http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/ http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/chartpage.htm ------------------------------- ---------------------------------- If pretty charts are your game and you care not about notes and sources, then FTM is what you want. HOWEVER, if a comprehensive working database, with wide database searching functions, comparative side by side review of multiple databases, master place lists, to do lists, master source lists etc etc are more to your liking. So many things have been added since FO v 3, that you will learn nothing by that comparison. Find a copy of FTM v 3.0 if you want to compare that way, or get FO v10.0 and compare a v 10 to to a V 10. FO holds so many notes that trying to go FO to FTM is like trying to pour a gallon into a quart container. If all you have seen is FO v3 , then I submit notwithstanding your statement to the contrary you ARE in fact "totally strange to the FO software." When you talk to those contemplating changing software, invariably they are using FTM and have out grown it. Ask yourself, if there is a midwife or DAR member in your database, what process you would use in FTM to ferret out the person. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH paulstudly@studly.net

I concur perfectly in my comments on FOW10 and earlier versions with FTM. I found the entry pages much less handy and the family views in FOW far superior to those in FTM .I started with FOW4 after ganging from a Mormon progran from Utah that quit.FOW had seemed to have incorporated all the best parts of that program .All the advertising of CD's and what have you turmed out less than described- especially in accuracy and ease of availabilty among so much data. Barbara Laviers pecially in accuracy.