----- Original Message ----- From: <AnneKruszka@netscape.net> > I have a Wish List item for the list -- please get rid of some of the tag lines, way too many to scroll through especially when there are a lot of messages. It makes it hard for some email programs to deal with them. ============ That is one of the taglines. Tag 8: ---------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. ---------------------------------------------------------- Some people: don't bother to, don't know how to, or forget to erase part of the original message when replying. Even I, being nearly purrfact, sometimes forget to delete the extraneous parts of a message I am replying to. For that I apologize. The RootsWeb taglines are like TV commercials, they pay the bills. I prefer them to a banner adds and dancing monkeys. The ten Family Origins taglines are more like public service announcements, telling the reader how to do this or where to find that. the Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller
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All of my programs except GEDSPRED, operate on Family Origins generated Modifed Register descendent reports. The report must be created in unedited RTF format and have the source and index options turned on. NoteConvert is a subset of DESCEND (i.e., DESCEND contains NoteConvert). If you run DESCEND, you don't need to run NoteConvert. The same is true of ANCESTOR. If you don't want the other features of DESCEND (e.g., follow direct descendents of a selected surname and renumber descendents), then first run ANCESTOR and then run NoteConvert. I hope this helps. Rand ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> To: "Rand M. Putnam" <randmp@netzero.net> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:46 AM Subject: Fwd: [FO] Question re Rand's Descend and NoteConvert > > >Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:43:12 -0700 > >X-Original-Sender: summerspa@home.com Fri May 18 06:43:12 2001 > >X-Sender: summerspa@mail.sttls1.wa.home.com > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 > >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:40:12 -0700 > >Old-To: Family Origins Users Group List <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > >From: "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> > >Subject: [FO] Question re Rand's Descend and NoteConvert > >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-From: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > >X-Mailing-List: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/22516 > >X-Loop: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-Sender: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Can one apply consecutively both Descend and NoteConvert programs to the > >same RTF file? If so, then do you first apply Descend and then apply > >NoteConvert second? Vice versa? Does the order matter? Does Descend > >work no matter which format one has used in the generation of their FO RTF > >file? > > > >Are there any specific instructions for the procedure of applying > >both? Any pitfalls to be aware of? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Patricia > > NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net
Can someone tell me how to backup my family data on a CD Rewrite Program. I have FO Version 9.2. Thank you. Marge.
In a message dated 05/19/2001 12:36:57 PM Central Daylight Time, FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > It is a long story but I would like to find a FOWIN2.0 floppy. > > Frances - ncsdfrsd@juno.com > Frances...I have a FO 2.0 floppy...but it is for DOS...I was not aware that we had windows when the 2.0 came out. I would love to find a 5.0 for DOS...or a 6.0 for DOS... Jane Lindsey Tift
Cliff Bowlin wrote: > The census was to have been effective on these dates. Although > some enumerators did not fully comply, I use these dates instead > of the actual date the enumerator took that page unless I see an > obvious error. > > 1st-4th Censuses, 1790-1820 First Monday in August > 5th-12th Censuses, 1830-1900 June 1 > 13th Census, 1910 April 15 > 14th Census, 1920 January 1 > 15-22nd Censuses, 1930-2000 April 1 Presumably these were USA censuses, not applicable in other countries? Please remember this is an international list. ------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Fisher in Luton, Beds, UK. jim@jimella.co.uk Personal site: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/home.htm Management accounting site: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/
In a message dated Sat, 19 May 2001 3:03:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "E.J (Jim) Fisher" <ejf@jimella.co.uk> writes: << Presumably these were USA censuses, not applicable in other countries? Please remember this is an international list. Jim Fisher in Luton, Beds, UK. jim@jimella.co.uk >> Jim, Although the original message that Cliff was responding to, was not re-quoted...it was in a thread that specifically referred to US Census. Besides one can only provide that info which they possess. And I for one, am grateful for this. Being from the UK...do you have any idea whether census records available from anywhere else, besides the US, have "effective" dates for completion and if so, might you provide them??? Thanks, -=Kevin=- << Cliff Bowlin wrote: > The census was to have been effective on these dates. Although some enumerators did not fully comply, I use these dates instead of the actual date the enumerator took that page unless I see an obvious error. > > 1st-4th Censuses, 1790-1820 First Monday in August > 5th-12th Censuses, 1830-1900 June 1 > 13th Census, 1910 April 15 > 14th Census, 1920 January 1 > 15-22nd Censuses, 1930-2000 April 1
Linda sent this to "Requests" and it bounced to me, so I am forwarding it to the list. DARN IT! I sure wish that a warning about installing the patch went out with every shipment of 9.0 Some of the problems with Family Origins 9.0 are addressed in a program patch. This patch upgrades Family Origins 9.0 to 9.02, and is a free download of about 1MB found at: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm (That and multiple backups!) the Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mason" <linda@amason.clara.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: FO9.0 Corruption > Hi All, > Many thanks for your replies to my first message. following a suggestion I > am sending the exact > message I get. > I hope this will help the gurus to help me. > > Error#: -200 > error#: 83805 > file is not a data file > database corruption detected > > on clicking OK the following text appears:- > error#: -935 > Error#: 94001 > Null Input Parameter unexpected > d4field > > The programme then closes on clicking OK > > Many thanks > Linda > > "Hi everyone, > This is my first posting to the list, so I hope someone out there can help > me. > Last week after inputting some new data I was about to finish when I got a > message telling me that the data file was corrupted. I am now unable to > access 20 years work and when I try to open my last back up (from Feb) I get > a message telling me that one of the files cannot be accessed, so I seem > unable to retrieve the data. as I really don't want to input the last 20 > years work by hand again does anyone have any ideas how to help me. - in > plain English as my computer technical knowledge is not that good. > Linda" > > > > > > > >
Hi everyone, This is my first posting to the list, so I hope someone out there can help me. Last week after inputting some new data I was about to finish when I got a message telling me that the data file was corrupted. I am now unable to access 20 years work and when I try to open my last back up (from Feb) I get a message telling me that one of the files cannot be accessed, so I seem unable to retrieve the data. as I really don't want to input the last 20 years work by hand again does anyone have any ideas how to help me. - in plain English as my computer technical knowledge is not that good. Linda
If the census taker took the census correctly, the question of age pertains to how old an individual was on the official date of the census. It just takes the effort to find out what the official date was for each year. That is not the date entered on the top of the census necessarily. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Events out of order, another example > When you enter only the year, it seems to be sorted as if it were the first > of January of that year. > > When you enter only the month and year, it also sees to be sorted as if it > were the first day of that month. > > But, evidently, when the month is Jan, it is listed after just the year. So, > using your system of only entering the year for census information, anyone > that was born in the year of the census is counted before they are born. > (Is that anything like "Counting your chickens before they are hatched"?) > > I don't know what you can do about it other than give the census a complete > date too, but, it often isn't known. > > Good Luck, > Alfred > > ======= > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> > > > > > There was a thread recently where events were out of order. For example, > a > > marriage after a death if the marriage had no date associated with it and > > the death did. > > > > I have encountered a new situation which is a little different because > both > > events do have correct dates associated with them, yet they are out of > > order. > > > > I have a person born in January 1850, enumerated in the 1850 census age > > 4/12. I don't put a month or day on census events, just the year. When I > > have it, I do put the exact enumeration date as a note, but not as a part > of > > the date of the census event. > > > > This person was enumerated before they were born according to Family > > Origins. > > > > Jerry Bryan > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
When you enter only the year, it seems to be sorted as if it were the first of January of that year. When you enter only the month and year, it also sees to be sorted as if it were the first day of that month. But, evidently, when the month is Jan, it is listed after just the year. So, using your system of only entering the year for census information, anyone that was born in the year of the census is counted before they are born. (Is that anything like "Counting your chickens before they are hatched"?) I don't know what you can do about it other than give the census a complete date too, but, it often isn't known. Good Luck, Alfred ======= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> > There was a thread recently where events were out of order. For example, a > marriage after a death if the marriage had no date associated with it and > the death did. > > I have encountered a new situation which is a little different because both > events do have correct dates associated with them, yet they are out of > order. > > I have a person born in January 1850, enumerated in the 1850 census age > 4/12. I don't put a month or day on census events, just the year. When I > have it, I do put the exact enumeration date as a note, but not as a part of > the date of the census event. > > This person was enumerated before they were born according to Family > Origins. > > Jerry Bryan
There was a thread recently where events were out of order. For example, a marriage after a death if the marriage had no date associated with it and the death did. I have encountered a new situation which is a little different because both events do have correct dates associated with them, yet they are out of order. I have a person born in January 1850, enumerated in the 1850 census age 4/12. I don't put a month or day on census events, just the year. When I have it, I do put the exact enumeration date as a note, but not as a part of the date of the census event. This person was enumerated before they were born according to Family Origins. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
The census was to have been effective on these dates. Although some enumerators did not fully comply, I use these dates instead of the actual date the enumerator took that page unless I see an obvious error. 1st-4th Censuses, 1790-1820 First Monday in August 5th-12th Censuses, 1830-1900 June 1 13th Census, 1910 April 15 14th Census, 1920 January 1 15-22nd Censuses, 1930-2000 April 1 Cliff Bowlin Colorado Springs
When you can give the exact message given (including all of those numbers and computer eeze) when your files are corrupted, there are several gurus on here who are wonders at getting it straightened out. Meanwhile, try this. Close Family Origins. In Windows Explorer, go to the directory (folder) that has your FOW data files. Click on the little button at the top that says "type". This will make Explorer sort by file type. Now find all of the Files with the CDX extension, meaning they end with dot/period/decimal point cdx.. Highlight them and delete them all. (They'll go to your re-cycle bin, so are not lost completely until you emply it.) Close Explorer and open FOW. If that fixed the problem, you should see a box saying something about "re-indexing". When it's done, you will have your database back. Norma
It is a long story but I would like to find a FOWIN2.0 floppy. Frances - ncsdfrsd@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
If someone tries it for 4.95 they will upgrade to the current version once they try it and are seriously interested in genealogy. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Family Orgins special > IMHO, Family Origins of any version is worth $4.95, but that is just my > opinion <g>. But then, when it comes to listmembers of this list, that is > a bit like "preaching to the choir, though, isn't it??? > > David > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 05/18/2001, at 4:51 PM, Calvin Wright wrote: > > >The software page of att.net advertises Family Origin, a $29.95 value for > >only a shipping charge of $4.95 also but the pic shown appears to be > version > >5 or 6, it goes to garbage when you enlarge it by 200%. > > > >Cal > <clip> > > MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) > Phone: 540-372-7868 > Fax: 540-372-7707 > E-mail: decann@infi.net > Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >
IMHO, Family Origins of any version is worth $4.95, but that is just my opinion <g>. But then, when it comes to listmembers of this list, that is a bit like "preaching to the choir, though, isn't it??? David *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/18/2001, at 4:51 PM, Calvin Wright wrote: >The software page of att.net advertises Family Origin, a $29.95 value for >only a shipping charge of $4.95 also but the pic shown appears to be version >5 or 6, it goes to garbage when you enlarge it by 200%. > >Cal <clip> MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann
The software page of att.net advertises Family Origin, a $29.95 value for only a shipping charge of $4.95 also but the pic shown appears to be version 5 or 6, it goes to garbage when you enlarge it by 200%. Cal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: [FO] Family Orgins special We have complained about Family Origins not being advertised. We had an offer in our credit card bill (offer for Master Card or Visa) for several CDs (person ordering pays $4.75 shipping). One was for Family Origins. I could not see the version number on the picture and it was not stated. It had a date limit so it would not work for the next version. At least it had the picture and name and might attract someone to use it. Betty ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
We have complained about Family Origins not being advertised. We had an offer in our credit card bill (offer for Master Card or Visa) for several CDs (person ordering pays $4.75 shipping). One was for Family Origins. I could not see the version number on the picture and it was not stated. It had a date limit so it would not work for the next version. At least it had the picture and name and might attract someone to use it. Betty
Can one apply consecutively both Rand's Descend and NoteConvert programs to the same RTF file? If so, then do you first apply Descend and then apply NoteConvert second? Vice versa? Does the order matter? Does Descend work no matter which format one has used in the generation of their FO RTF file? Are there any specific instructions for the procedure of applying both? Any pitfalls to be aware of? Thanks, Patricia