----- Original Message ----- From: "Diann Payne" <diann@f1.net.au> > > Darci, > > What dpi do you use to scan the images? And does anyone have any suggested > places to look for help in building web pages that have links and photos? I > am still such a newbie at putting web pages together. > > Thanks, > Diann P. > ============== HTML tutors telling you how to fix up a web page. http://www.pagetutor.com/pagetutor/forms/ http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/ http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ backgrounds and borders http://www.boogiejack.com/ Scanning tips http://www.scantips.com/ The dpi (dots per inch) doesn’t matter by itself. But combined with the size of the image it does. The standard VGA screen is 480 pixels high by 600 pixels wide. If you want to view a postage stamp the size of the full screen, then about 600dpi would do it. But if you have a 4” by 6” portrait snapshot (large dimension vertical, up and down) and you want to see it all on one screen, you would have to scan it at about 75dpi. Most scanners won’t do that, so you have to rely on your software to adjust the size of the scanned picture so that the vertical and horizontal dimension in pixels is no higher than the number of pixels of the displaying screen. Then save the photo for the web page in a compressed format like jpg for quicker loading on a slow connection. I checked out Darci’s page, I think that she should think about uploading the black and white pictures in gray scale rather than full color, they would be about 1/3 the size, therefore load three times as fast. I have been assuming that most people use at least an 800 by 600 display anymore, I might be wrong. Alfred

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Pellow" <mapellow@yahoo.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: Unidentified subject! > Hi all, > > I'm at the beginning of research, and I've been looking at > suggestions for organizing it all in a serious way, which I've > yet to do, although I'm taking baby steps. That having been > said: > > I'm coming across some noteworthy references to dates and names > in notes handwritten by my grandmother years ago on scraps of > paper. Often these notes are the only reference to a particular > name or relationship. Having entered some particular fact in FO > (burial place, DOB, etc.), I'm somewhat stymied as to how to > record the source of the information. > > I began by using my grandmother's initials and entering to "ERA > note 1", "ERA note 2", etc., as individual sources. But it > quickly became obvious that not only are there were too many > little paper notes to make that at all meaningful, but "ERA note > 1" is a very sparse reference for an information source. On the > other hand, it's simply my grandmother's recollections, which > she recorded. (How to refer to her recollections which *I* have > recorded in writing is the next question.) There's not much > more detail to give about it as a source. One possible solution > I drummed up is to list "ERA Personal Papers" as a source, to > cover all such little notes, and then use the Citation field to > specify further when possible. > > What does geneaolgy source citation protocol have to say about > this situation? (And, while I'm at it, are there any > suggestions for written references that would cover this kind of > operational detail?) Thanks in advance, > > -- Matt > > (reply to mapellow@yahoo.com ) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Charles/Rosemary wrote: > Just rejoined the list after about a year. Have FO 8.0. Is FO 10 coming > out soon? Thanks: ohberry ============ Updated versions of FO traditionally have been made available in August of each year. Jim

I've made a website database and added photo/biography images after the surnames, indicated by a small camera icon which brings up the images. The site is New York State Men. And thanks to all for the 238 error message. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~darci/notes/nym1.htm Darci

Just rejoined the list after about a year. Have FO 8.0. Is FO 10 coming out soon? Thanks: ohberry

I would indicate that they were research notes gleaned from the work of xxx located at xxx. In other words, the important thing is that future researchers be able to locate the original documents to verify your work. -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: [FO] Re: Unidentified subject! > How would you enter the info if it was anyone but your grandmother? For > instance, the research notes of Mary Turpin Layton housed at the Maryland > Historical Society library? I would enter the title "Genealogical notes of > (name)". Then give the repository for these notes--even if it is your house. > > Norma > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Dear List, I have heard a lot of talk about how Family Origins is set up to fix a web site for you. I would like to see what other Family Origins members have done. Can anyone send me the location for some of these web sites. Thanks Crater

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "fix up" a web site. FOW will create a complete web site for you and you're welcome to take a look at mine (see my sig block below). You should know, however, that I have modified the home page and added some extra pages to my site. -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crater" <crater@utk.edu> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V01 #174 > Dear List, > I have heard a lot of talk about how Family Origins is set up to fix a > web site for you. I would like to see what other Family Origins members > have done. Can anyone send me the location for some of these web sites. > Thanks > Crater > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list= FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourc ecode=F11HB >

I gave blood on Saturday at the NGS Conference and was told that if I wanted to submit my entire gedcom (direct ancestors only) that I could send it on a disk, so you aren't limited to just a 4 gen chart if you have more. So you can have FO make a disk to bring along with you (had to say that to keep it on topic) ;-). I also had a chance to meet Bruce and give him a difficult time in his Beginning - Advanced FO class. He showed us how to delete an entire database! I don't think he MEANT to show us how to do that, but he did! Angela On Thu, 24 May 2001 02:06:08 EDT VPierce851@aol.com writes: > Dear Paul: > > I attended one of these DNA meetingns last Saturday evening. > The lady from Brigham Young University explained it. I must admit > it was > considerably over my head. We each in attendance gave blood. The > chapel and > cultural hall were filled with people who readily gave their blood . > We each > gave a pedigree chart of four generations. > I believe it is a worthwhile effort and it will be interesting to > see what > information they come up with it. The speaker said it is a > four-year project. > > It does not work with adopted people. Of course, if the adopted > person knows > his or her ancestry and can give a four generation pedigree chart of > their > birth ancestors, he or she could participate. > > Virginia Kimes Pierce > VPierce851@aol.com > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for > ordering information. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Paul: I attended one of these DNA meetingns last Saturday evening. The lady from Brigham Young University explained it. I must admit it was considerably over my head. We each in attendance gave blood. The chapel and cultural hall were filled with people who readily gave their blood . We each gave a pedigree chart of four generations. I believe it is a worthwhile effort and it will be interesting to see what information they come up with it. The speaker said it is a four-year project. It does not work with adopted people. Of course, if the adopted person knows his or her ancestry and can give a four generation pedigree chart of their birth ancestors, he or she could participate. Virginia Kimes Pierce VPierce851@aol.com

How would you enter the info if it was anyone but your grandmother? For instance, the research notes of Mary Turpin Layton housed at the Maryland Historical Society library? I would enter the title "Genealogical notes of (name)". Then give the repository for these notes--even if it is your house. Norma

Hi all, I'm at the beginning of research, and I've been looking at suggestions for organizing it all in a serious way, which I've yet to do, although I'm taking baby steps. That having been said: I'm coming across some noteworthy references to dates and names in notes handwritten by my grandmother years ago on scraps of paper. Often these notes are the only reference to a particular name or relationship. Having entered some particular fact in FO (burial place, DOB, etc.), I'm somewhat stymied as to how to record the source of the information. I began by using my grandmother's initials and entering to "ERA note 1", "ERA note 2", etc., as individual sources. But it quickly became obvious that not only are there were too many little paper notes to make that at all meaningful, but "ERA note 1" is a very sparse reference for an information source. On the other hand, it's simply my grandmother's recollections, which she recorded. (How to refer to her recollections which *I* have recorded in writing is the next question.) There's not much more detail to give about it as a source. One possible solution I drummed up is to list "ERA Personal Papers" as a source, to cover all such little notes, and then use the Citation field to specify further when possible. What does geneaolgy source citation protocol have to say about this situation? (And, while I'm at it, are there any suggestions for written references that would cover this kind of operational detail?) Thanks in advance, -- Matt (reply to mapellow@yahoo.com ) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

238 errors are about the only ones I know anything about. They occur when FOW cannot find a graphics file to move to the website folder. Either you have moved or renamed it, or the name isn't one that is recognized by the web page editor. Any pictures that you have in the scrapbook, or the 'GIF' files that Family Origins uses for buttons or backgrounds that can't be found will cause this error. Now for the fun part, Trying to find which graphics are lost. I think some of the HTML editors will find which links are not working. I have Arachnophilia which will analyze a site to see which links aren't resolved. I know that it is a real job trying to find a bunch of these by going through the site and checking each link. Good Luck, Alfred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darci" <djohn@netnet.net> > I get FO238 errors when making a website from the database and wonder how to > correct that. It comes up when making a rather large database of names, but > the smaller databases make up just fine. Suggestions to correct appreciated. > Thank you. Darci >

I get FO238 errors when making a website from the database and wonder how to correct that. It comes up when making a rather large database of names, but the smaller databases make up just fine. Suggestions to correct appreciated. Thank you. Darci

I think that there is something else at work here Betty. I edited a short GEDCOM so that one lady with a child became a male. I then imported it into FOW 9.02 with no problems, added another child to this ‘male’ and ‘his’ husband’s family. Then I created a new database and dragged that line of the family to it, everything came across just fine. I could not drag just one half of that family, then the other and then expect to re attach the two “males” as husband and wife though. Family Origins evidently does not check the sex of the spouses in a relationship when importing a GEDCOM, only when we try to enter them into the program individually. It seems that Bruce wrote that the “drag and drop” used a GEDCOM behind the scenes. I believe that anything you can export to a GEDCOM using FOW 9.02, you can expect to import into another FOW 9.02 without loosing any data, so there shouldn’t be any need for a “LST” file for dragging and dropping. In other words, I am trying to tell you that this is not a program fault, it ’s probably just another case of ‘operator error’ <};-) Good Luck, Alfred ============ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> > I received a gedcom for one of my family lines. I made a separate database, made a printout and checked it against my information in my database. When I came to a branch of the tree I did not have entered, I decided to drag and drop that branch. First I cleaned up all the place names. Then I dropped the head of the family and his descendants onto the same person in my database and merged them. Then I checked the new people in my database against the Decendancy report I had previously printed. > > All was well until I found a person who had a name, but no spouse or children. The printout had a spouse and children. When I investigated, the person's name was Jimmie and they had come in as male so Family Origins did not accept the spouse and children. What alerted me was that, in the printout, it said "he" married a person who obviously had a male name. > > I went back and changed the sex of Jimmie to Female and added her husband and her child manually. > > I was under the impression that, when things were imported, they came in as they were. I found it quite interesting that Family Origins would not accept in a drag and drop something it would not allow me to enter. > > I wonder if there is a difference in the drag and drop vs the gedcom. In gedcom, there is usually a list of things not accepted. If I had not checked my database (after the drag and drop) against the printout, I would not have known this family was not accepted. > > Betty

To All Genealogists and Family Historians -- There has been some talk on a couple of the lists of late concerning a study being done by Brigham Young University. I went to the web site and this looks like a wonderful beginning step in creating a true, genetic genealogy. In a nutshell, they're taking blood samples and 4-generation pedigrees from people all over the world in an effort to create a MOLECULAR GENEALOGY of the human race. I spoke with the Director of Public Affairs for the Houston Family History Centers and he expressed an interest in putting on an event here in Houston to support the BYU study. You could do the same thing in your communities and we could really help get this project off to a roaring good start. Security/Privacy issues are discussed at the site. Here's the URL: http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu/ I sent this messages to the lists to which I am subscribed. You may want to forward it on to other lists. -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com ***************************************

----- Original Message ----- From: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V01 #173

----- Original Message ----- From: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:00 AM Subject: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V01 #172

I received a gedcom for one of my family lines. I made a separate database, made a printout and checked it against my information in my database. When I came to a branch of the tree I did not have entered, I decided to drag and drop that branch. First I cleaned up all the place names. Then I dropped the head of the family and his descendants onto the same person in my database and merged them. Then I checked the new people in my database against the Decendancy report I had previously printed. All was well until I found a person who had a name, but no spouse or children. The printout had a spouse and children. When I investigated, the person's name was Jimmie and they had come in as male so Family Origins did not accept the spouse and children. What alerted me was that, in the printout, it said "he" married a person who obviously had a male name. I went back and changed the sex of Jimmie to Female and added her husband and her child manually. I was under the impression that, when things were imported, they came in as they were. I found it quite interesting that Family Origins would not accept in a drag and drop something it would not allow me to enter. I wonder if there is a difference in the drag and drop vs the gedcom. In gedcom, there is usually a list of things not accepted. If I had not checked my database (after the drag and drop) against the printout, I would not have known this family was not accepted. Betty

Dear Readers I too tried PAF because of very good report layouts. However ALL my notes etc cut off at one and a half lines long: so only good for names and dates: unless I did something wrong. Richard T Croker from UK, where I bought FO9 and book, and updated to 9.02 after reading AE message re update to solve problems. www.croker-family.org.uk > I have stuck with FOW for years (now using 9.02); the biggest reason being > the ease of use and speed. I decided to try to transfer my base to another > program, namely PAF, to see if some of the reports may be more appealing. > Without getting into specifics, I did find several report features that I > liked, but obviously encountered some loses (and, strangely, some gains) in > the transfer. > One > however befuddled me for days. Long text fields, i.e. Notes, Places, Source > Titles, etc., would get altered no matter whether I used "Preserve Word > Wrap" on the GEDCOM export from FO or not.