This is a hoax. go to the following URL: http://service1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html&src =w -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Kersey Karr [mailto:joycekersey@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:51 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Fw: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT - IT IS THERE I found it on my computer - brand new one. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW. Thanks James for sending this out. Joyce Kersey Karr joycekersey@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mahan" <jrmahan@worldnet.att.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [FO] Fw: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > > <<<VERY IMPORTANT VIRUS ALERT!!! > > > > A new virus is out that is NOT detected by Norton's Antivirus!! This > virus > > lays on your PC and will activate on Jun 1. It is very important that > each > > of you follow the below steps to make sure you do not have the virus [the > > virus has already been found in the Credit Union] - > > > > On you START button in the lower left corner....click on it ONCE with your > > RIGHT mouse button. > > > > On the menu that will pop up, go up to FIND and click on it ONCE with your > > LEFT mouse button. > > > > The FIND menu will come up and you need to make the following entries: > > NAMED: SULFNBK.EXE > > CONTAINING TEXT: leave this blank > > LOOK IN: click once on the arrow to the right and then select the > C: > > drive. > > > > After these entries are made, click on the FIND NOW button. > > > > If the virus is on you PC, you will see an icon and name appear in the > lower > > box on the menu [ the file will be named sufnbk.exe or may appear simply > > sufnbk without showing the .exe] If you see it DO NOT OPEN !!! Click on > it > > ONE TIME with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. From that > > menu, select DELETE. > > > > After this, click on the X in the upper right corner to close the FIND > > menu....BUT, if you had the virus, you are not finished yet.... > > > > Return to your main desktop [where you see MY COMPUTER, MY DOCUMENTS, just > > like when you first log on in the mornings] and click ONCE on your > Recycle > > BIN with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. Click ONCE on > > EMPTY THE RECYCLE BIN. NOW, you are finished. > > > > Please take care of this right away. >>>>>> ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

DON'T BE TAKEN IN BY HOAXES! The following is an article copied from the virus encyclopedia found at http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/ SULFNBK.EXE Hoax The text on this page is part of a hoax and is not a legitimate warning or offer. We present it here to help you identify any hoax messages that you receive. Please note that hoaxes often have several variations in circulation, so you may receive a hoax message that is similar, but not identical to the message below. This particular hoax may also appear in Spanish. "I found a virus in my computer that was sent to me by somebody. The virus will activate itself on the 1st of JUNE and according to McaFee web site will destroy every single file in the hard drive. If you have the virus it should be in your computer by now. The file name is SULFNBK.EXE. You can find it in the Windows explorer and then eliminate the file. (Do not forget to eliminate it from the Trash as well!)

People sure know how to play on our emotions don't they. We're all geared up for virus' and fear grips us when we hear of one because we know that McAfee and Norton simply cannot be on top of all of them on the onset. And so, that's how people, who are just as vicious as a virus generator, make us panic and do things we wouldn't normally do. What is so unfortunate is that people who really care about people and want to warn others of impending danger all of a sudden become part of the hoax and usually unknowingly. We need to get more educated, remain calm, investigate, and then move forward. Perhaps many of those who informed us this was a hoax could develop a list of good places to go to make that determination and then periodically publish it on the mailing list so all new subscribers are also educated. Further, now that many innocent people have wiped out a perfectly good (and in many cases probably needed) program is there someone out there who can tell them where t! o get the program and how to install it - besides just saying go to a recovery disk or call Microsoft. Withholding of knowledge is not power, knowledge gained and shared is; after all, that is why we're on a mailing list ! Mike Peterson

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mahan" <jrmahan@worldnet.att.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [FO] Fw: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > NAMED: SULFNBK.EXE copied this from the Semantic "Hoaxes" page CAUTION: This particular email message is a hoax. The file that is mentioned in the hoax, however, Sulfnbk.exe, is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names, and like any .exe file, it can be infected by a virus that targets .exe files. PLEASE -- Don't report viruses that you hear about this way. Let me know and I can check them out and post a warning if they are real. These hoaxes only add to the paranoia about computer use and waste everyone's time. Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller

I found it on my computer - brand new one. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW. Thanks James for sending this out. Joyce Kersey Karr joycekersey@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mahan" <jrmahan@worldnet.att.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [FO] Fw: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > > <<<VERY IMPORTANT VIRUS ALERT!!! > > > > A new virus is out that is NOT detected by Norton's Antivirus!! This > virus > > lays on your PC and will activate on Jun 1. It is very important that > each > > of you follow the below steps to make sure you do not have the virus [the > > virus has already been found in the Credit Union] - > > > > On you START button in the lower left corner....click on it ONCE with your > > RIGHT mouse button. > > > > On the menu that will pop up, go up to FIND and click on it ONCE with your > > LEFT mouse button. > > > > The FIND menu will come up and you need to make the following entries: > > NAMED: SULFNBK.EXE > > CONTAINING TEXT: leave this blank > > LOOK IN: click once on the arrow to the right and then select the > C: > > drive. > > > > After these entries are made, click on the FIND NOW button. > > > > If the virus is on you PC, you will see an icon and name appear in the > lower > > box on the menu [ the file will be named sufnbk.exe or may appear simply > > sufnbk without showing the .exe] If you see it DO NOT OPEN !!! Click on > it > > ONE TIME with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. From that > > menu, select DELETE. > > > > After this, click on the X in the upper right corner to close the FIND > > menu....BUT, if you had the virus, you are not finished yet.... > > > > Return to your main desktop [where you see MY COMPUTER, MY DOCUMENTS, just > > like when you first log on in the mornings] and click ONCE on your > Recycle > > BIN with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. Click ONCE on > > EMPTY THE RECYCLE BIN. NOW, you are finished. > > > > Please take care of this right away. >>>>>>

You also have the option of including or excluding the detail in a source. If you exclude the detail, then the pages of source will cut down to a reasonable number. I use the full detail for an exchange or where the person would be interested in the full information. For my family, who is more interested in the extra that I have placed in notes to help flesh out the genealogy, I leave off the detail, but still include the source. You will not get the page after page then of repeated sources for each reference. Keith Thompson TBremersr@aol.com wrote: > > You should source your data as Margaret explains. To come back at a later > time, and try to do it THEN, that's a BIG problem. I can vouch for that. > > One thing you MUST keep in mind when you do source your info, whatever info > you set up in the Source Manager itself will print out in your footnote > listing at the rear of the books (if you so choose). When you reuse the same > source, you will NOT reprint the source words again. It will just use the > same footnote number for all further times you use the same source. (This > cuts down on LONG footnote pages.) > > Once you use a source CITATION DETAILS Field for ANY purpose, the rule > changes. You no longer get one full printout of the source and further usage > of it referencing back to the original. EACH DETAILED source footnote prints > out in its entirety again, again, and again; as many times as you > differentiate each by using the DETAIL field. NOW, your book, when you print > footnotes, becomes VERY big. The footnote pages expand greatly. For my > ancestors, I want all the data I can to print out in the books so, for them, > I overlook this problem. For other folks. I try to setup and use a very > generic source in the Source Manager, thus using the repetitive, no-print > feature. > > I STILL have footnote pages that are too large. When I run this type of book > thru Rand's program to bring footnotes to the pages where they are refereed > to, in some cases, the footnotes take up MORE space on the page than the data > itself. Oh well. > > To each his/her own. > > Ted Bremer Sr > TBremerSr@aol.com > > > . > > > > If you have questions about how various types of source entries > > print out in a report, try printing some sample reports and look at the > > format of what prints out. You should try for clarity and consistency. > > You might want to look at some professional genealogies and see how they > > present the sources as well as looking at some standard books giving > > pointers on citing sources. > > > > Margaret Scheffler > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Efax # (419) 818-1912 JFax & Voicemail (530) 484-3831

This particular email message is a hoax. The file that is mentioned in the hoax, however, Sulfnbk.exe, is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names, and like any .exe file, it can be infected by a virus that targets .exe files. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mahan" <jrmahan@worldnet.att.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: [FO] Fw: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > You all have a wonderful Memorial Day Wokende! > > > --- HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! > > --- Jim Mahan > > --- jrmahan@att.net > > --- http://home.att.net/~jrmahan/ > --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com/ > --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howard Johnston" <how@micron.net> > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:24 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > > > > I rec'd this email earlier this am. Yes, I found this virus lurking on my > C drive and was able to delete it. > > Howard Johnston > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > Subject: > > [HACKETT-L] Very Important Virus Alert > > Resent-Date: > > Fri, 25 May 2001 14:58:02 -0700 > > Resent-From: > > HACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: > > Fri, 25 May 2001 17:57:57 EDT > > From: > > Cybermomrk@aol.com > > To: > > HACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > My sister faxed me this alert that was sent to all the computers at the > > Credit Union she works at. I am grateful because I found it on both my > > computers in the Windows folder. > > Therefore I am sending it to all that I can reach to warn them. It is > copied > > exactly as the memo was circulated to the Credit Union employees, without > of > > course the Systems Managers email address and extension number copied. I > > only typed up the main body of the memo. > > > > <<<VERY IMPORTANT VIRUS ALERT!!! > > > > A new virus is out that is NOT detected by Norton's Antivirus!! This > virus > > lays on your PC and will activate on Jun 1. It is very important that > each > > of you follow the below steps to make sure you do not have the virus [the > > virus has already been found in the Credit Union] - > > > > On you START button in the lower left corner....click on it ONCE with your > > RIGHT mouse button. > > > > On the menu that will pop up, go up to FIND and click on it ONCE with your > > LEFT mouse button. > > > > The FIND menu will come up and you need to make the following entries: > > NAMED: SULFNBK.EXE > > CONTAINING TEXT: leave this blank > > LOOK IN: click once on the arrow to the right and then select the > C: > > drive. > > > > After these entries are made, click on the FIND NOW button. > > > > If the virus is on you PC, you will see an icon and name appear in the > lower > > box on the menu [ the file will be named sufnbk.exe or may appear simply > > sufnbk without showing the .exe] If you see it DO NOT OPEN !!! Click on > it > > ONE TIME with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. From that > > menu, select DELETE. > > > > After this, click on the X in the upper right corner to close the FIND > > menu....BUT, if you had the virus, you are not finished yet.... > > > > Return to your main desktop [where you see MY COMPUTER, MY DOCUMENTS, just > > like when you first log on in the mornings] and click ONCE on your > Recycle > > BIN with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. Click ONCE on > > EMPTY THE RECYCLE BIN. NOW, you are finished. > > > > Please take care of this right away. >>>>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

You all have a wonderful Memorial Day Wokende! --- HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! --- Jim Mahan --- jrmahan@att.net --- http://home.att.net/~jrmahan/ --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com/ --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Johnston" <how@micron.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: [PAF-5] VALID VIRUS ALERT > I rec'd this email earlier this am. Yes, I found this virus lurking on my C drive and was able to delete it. > Howard Johnston > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > Subject: > [HACKETT-L] Very Important Virus Alert > Resent-Date: > Fri, 25 May 2001 14:58:02 -0700 > Resent-From: > HACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Date: > Fri, 25 May 2001 17:57:57 EDT > From: > Cybermomrk@aol.com > To: > HACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > My sister faxed me this alert that was sent to all the computers at the > Credit Union she works at. I am grateful because I found it on both my > computers in the Windows folder. > Therefore I am sending it to all that I can reach to warn them. It is copied > exactly as the memo was circulated to the Credit Union employees, without of > course the Systems Managers email address and extension number copied. I > only typed up the main body of the memo. > > <<<VERY IMPORTANT VIRUS ALERT!!! > > A new virus is out that is NOT detected by Norton's Antivirus!! This virus > lays on your PC and will activate on Jun 1. It is very important that each > of you follow the below steps to make sure you do not have the virus [the > virus has already been found in the Credit Union] - > > On you START button in the lower left corner....click on it ONCE with your > RIGHT mouse button. > > On the menu that will pop up, go up to FIND and click on it ONCE with your > LEFT mouse button. > > The FIND menu will come up and you need to make the following entries: > NAMED: SULFNBK.EXE > CONTAINING TEXT: leave this blank > LOOK IN: click once on the arrow to the right and then select the C: > drive. > > After these entries are made, click on the FIND NOW button. > > If the virus is on you PC, you will see an icon and name appear in the lower > box on the menu [ the file will be named sufnbk.exe or may appear simply > sufnbk without showing the .exe] If you see it DO NOT OPEN !!! Click on it > ONE TIME with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. From that > menu, select DELETE. > > After this, click on the X in the upper right corner to close the FIND > menu....BUT, if you had the virus, you are not finished yet.... > > Return to your main desktop [where you see MY COMPUTER, MY DOCUMENTS, just > like when you first log on in the mornings] and click ONCE on your Recycle > BIN with your RIGHT mouse button and a menu will appear. Click ONCE on > EMPTY THE RECYCLE BIN. NOW, you are finished. > > Please take care of this right away. >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ >

You should source your data as Margaret explains. To come back at a later time, and try to do it THEN, that's a BIG problem. I can vouch for that. One thing you MUST keep in mind when you do source your info, whatever info you set up in the Source Manager itself will print out in your footnote listing at the rear of the books (if you so choose). When you reuse the same source, you will NOT reprint the source words again. It will just use the same footnote number for all further times you use the same source. (This cuts down on LONG footnote pages.) Once you use a source CITATION DETAILS Field for ANY purpose, the rule changes. You no longer get one full printout of the source and further usage of it referencing back to the original. EACH DETAILED source footnote prints out in its entirety again, again, and again; as many times as you differentiate each by using the DETAIL field. NOW, your book, when you print footnotes, becomes VERY big. The footnote pages expand greatly. For my ancestors, I want all the data I can to print out in the books so, for them, I overlook this problem. For other folks. I try to setup and use a very generic source in the Source Manager, thus using the repetitive, no-print feature. I STILL have footnote pages that are too large. When I run this type of book thru Rand's program to bring footnotes to the pages where they are refereed to, in some cases, the footnotes take up MORE space on the page than the data itself. Oh well. To each his/her own. Ted Bremer Sr TBremerSr@aol.com > . > > If you have questions about how various types of source entries > print out in a report, try printing some sample reports and look at the > format of what prints out. You should try for clarity and consistency. > You might want to look at some professional genealogies and see how they > present the sources as well as looking at some standard books giving > pointers on citing sources. > > Margaret Scheffler > >

GEDX has several options which includes the conversion of FTW GEDCOM to FO GEDCOM. It is fairly well documented and has tutorials. So far it has done a reasonable conversion of FTW GEDCOMs. For example, I recently imported a FTW GEDCOM with over 10000 names. The LST file had nearly 800 pages of "errors". After using GEDX there was only one error message in the LST file. It's not a panacea but can be helpful. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Can I fix this GEDCOM? <snip> > Do you know if GEDX is able to automatically make this compatible for > Family Origins without my having to write special rules for it? > > Thanks, > > Patricia

"P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> wrote: >IN GEDCOM FILE: > >0 @I1674@ INDI >1 NAME John W. /Smith/ >2 SOUR @S48028@ >3 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B >3 DATA >4 TEXT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly . . . etc. >1 SEX M The 2 SOUR level & tag refers to the 1 NAME above it. In FO you cannot reference a source to a name. It must be referenced to the individual at the 0 level and then it will become a general source for that individual. Also, the DATA and TEXT tags in the above configuration are unacceptable to FO. The easiest way to change the above gedcom lines so that FO will import them is like this: 0 @I1674@ INDI 1 NAME John W. /Smith/ 1 SOUR @S48028@ 2 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B 3 CONT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly . . . etc. 1 SEX M Note that all the text on the 3 CONT line must be all in one line in the gedcom file, extending as far right as it takes and not wrapped to the next lines as it was in your email message. If you do wrap the text, each new line thus formed must begin with 4 CONC FO will now import the source as a general source for John W. Smith and the text will all be in the citation detail. Getting the text to go into the source text field from the gedcom would be a bit more complicated. After you import it as above and in FO, move the text into the source text field via the source manager, you can have FO make a one person gedcom file and see how it constructs the gedcom file if you would like to learn how to do that. Wayne League

Although I try to use standard bibliographical practice for book resource citations, there is a lot of room for personal preferences with Family Origins. For verbal information from a live family member, I would likely use their name in a format such as: Smith, Mary Jane -- for notes from the person, I would likely use the name plus something like personal notes, personal correspondence in the citation details section. For some sources including documents and certificates, I tend to use generic sources such as birth certificate, death certificate, tombstone, cemetery records, 1850 federal census, etc. Then I give the necessary details such as date, certificate #, location, etc. in the citation details section of the source screen. The important issue is to cite each source in such a manner so that if at all possible, you or someone else can locate it with minimal difficulty at a later date. The exception might be family members, where you might just use the person's name. If you have questions about how various types of source entries print out in a report, try printing some sample reports and look at the format of what prints out. You should try for clarity and consistency. You might want to look at some professional genealogies and see how they present the sources as well as looking at some standard books giving pointers on citing sources. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Pellow" <mapellow@yahoo.com> > I'm at the beginning of research, and I've been looking at > suggestions for organizing it all in a serious way, which I've > yet to do....

I am not too sure of this, but the "4 TEXT --- " line looks to be way too long, there should be either a CONT or CONC flag every 80 or so characters (Not sure of the number). Otherwise I can find all the flags listed in a GEDCOM exported by Family Origins. At or near the beginning of the GEDCOM the program and version number that exported it, should be found. Is it Indented? FTM seems to like to indent things to make them hard for other people to use. You could always look up the GEDCOM EXPLORER program and see what it can do for you. http://www.gedx.com/gedx/default.html Good luck, Alfred ========= ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> > I don't have a lot of experience working with GEDCOM files. I have > downloaded a cousin's file and imported it into a new database. The > remaining list file is 270kb and has lots of entries that didn't > import. ------SNIP------

The gedcom file which he had placed online for downloading at his MyFamily site, which is where I downloaded it. It looks like none of his sources or notes imported into the FO file. The header of it is: 0 HEAD 1 SOUR FTW 2 VERS 8.0 2 NAME Family Tree Maker for Windows 2 CORP Genealogy.com 3 ADDR 39500 Stevenson Pl. #204 4 CONT Fremont, CA 95439 3 PHON (510) 794-6850 1 DEST FTW 1 DATE 3 MAY 2001 1 CHAR ANSI 1 SUBM @SUBM@ 1 FILE C:\FTW\Family Tree File\Family Tree Large File.FBK.GED May.GED 1 GEDC 2 VERS 5.5 2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED 1 _SCHEMA 2 INDI 3 _FA1 4 LABL Fact 1 3 _FA2 4 LABL Fact 2 3 _FA3 4 LABL Fact 3 3 _FA4 4 LABL Fact 4 3 _FA5 4 LABL Fact 5 3 _FA6 4 LABL Fact 6 3 _FA7 4 LABL Fact 7 3 _FA8 4 LABL Fact 8 3 _FA9 4 LABL Fact 9 3 _FA10 4 LABL Fact 10 3 _FA11 4 LABL Fact 11 3 _FA12 4 LABL Fact 12 3 _FA13 4 LABL Fact 13 3 _MREL 4 LABL Relationship to Mother 3 _FREL 4 LABL Relationship to Father 2 FAM 3 _FA1 4 LABL Marriage fact 3 _FA2 4 LABL Fact 2 3 _MSTAT 4 LABL Marriage Beginning Status 3 _MEND 4 LABL Marriage Ending Status 0 @SUBM@ SUBM On both of these notes, I have just copied and pasted from the gedcom files. There are lots of notes and sources that just didn't import into Family Origins. Do you know if GEDX is able to automatically make this compatible for Family Origins without my having to write special rules for it? Thanks, Patricia At 11:05 PM 5/25/01 -0500, Alfred Eller wrote: >I am not too sure of this, but the "4 TEXT --- " line looks to be way too >long, there should be either a CONT or CONC flag every 80 or so characters >(Not sure of the number). Otherwise I can find all the flags listed in a >GEDCOM exported by Family Origins. > >At or near the beginning of the GEDCOM the program and version number that >exported it, should be found. Is it Indented? FTM seems to like to indent >things to make them hard for other people to use. > >You could always look up the GEDCOM EXPLORER program and see what it can do >for you. >http://www.gedx.com/gedx/default.html > > >Good luck, >Alfred

The subject is very complex. Messing with gedcom files can get you in big kimshee very fast unless you know what you are doing. Suffice to say it caused by the two genealogy programs are not using compatible standards. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: [FO] Can I fix this GEDCOM? > I don't have a lot of experience working with GEDCOM files. I have > downloaded a cousin's file and imported it into a new database. The > remaining list file is 270kb and has lots of entries that didn't > import. Below is an example of what was in the GEDCOM and following that > is an extract from the .LST file. Can someone explain to me what it was > that didn't import and why it did not? Can I work with the file to change > it so this source information will import? If so, how do I go about it? > > Thanks... Patricia > > > IN GEDCOM FILE: > > 0 @I1674@ INDI > 1 NAME John W. /Smith/ > 2 SOUR @S48028@ > 3 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B > 3 DATA > 4 TEXT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly B. age 30 born June > 1869 Ky., married 9 years has 3 children. Children: Turner age 11, Lillie > J. age 9, Everett C., Dwelling: 176-185 > 1 SEX M > 1 BIRT > 2 DATE 31 MAY 1875 > 2 PLAC Barren Co., Kentucky > 1 DEAT > 2 DATE AFT. 1920 > 2 PLAC Barren Co., Kentucky > 1 REFN 1674 > 1 FAMS @F1991@ > 1 FAMC @F0452@ > > > LATER IN THE FILE IS: > > 0 @S48028@ SOUR > 1 TITL 1900 Barren Co., Ky. Census, District 3, Enumeration 21 > > > > WHAT DIDN'T IMPORT IN THE .LST FILE: > > UNKNOWN RECORD AT LINE 18551: > 2 SOUR @S48028@ > 3 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B > 3 DATA > 4 TEXT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly B. age 30 born > June 1869 Ky., married 9 years has 3 children. Children: Turner age 11, > Lillie J. age 9, Everett C., Dwelling: 176-185 > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

I don't have a lot of experience working with GEDCOM files. I have downloaded a cousin's file and imported it into a new database. The remaining list file is 270kb and has lots of entries that didn't import. Below is an example of what was in the GEDCOM and following that is an extract from the .LST file. Can someone explain to me what it was that didn't import and why it did not? Can I work with the file to change it so this source information will import? If so, how do I go about it? Thanks... Patricia IN GEDCOM FILE: 0 @I1674@ INDI 1 NAME John W. /Smith/ 2 SOUR @S48028@ 3 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B 3 DATA 4 TEXT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly B. age 30 born June 1869 Ky., married 9 years has 3 children. Children: Turner age 11, Lillie J. age 9, Everett C., Dwelling: 176-185 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 31 MAY 1875 2 PLAC Barren Co., Kentucky 1 DEAT 2 DATE AFT. 1920 2 PLAC Barren Co., Kentucky 1 REFN 1674 1 FAMS @F1991@ 1 FAMC @F0452@ LATER IN THE FILE IS: 0 @S48028@ SOUR 1 TITL 1900 Barren Co., Ky. Census, District 3, Enumeration 21 WHAT DIDN'T IMPORT IN THE .LST FILE: UNKNOWN RECORD AT LINE 18551: 2 SOUR @S48028@ 3 PAGE Sheet 9-A & 9-B 3 DATA 4 TEXT Smith, John W. age 25, farmer. Wife: Polly B. age 30 born June 1869 Ky., married 9 years has 3 children. Children: Turner age 11, Lillie J. age 9, Everett C., Dwelling: 176-185

Darci, What dpi do you use to scan the images? And does anyone have any suggested places to look for help in building web pages that have links and photos? I am still such a newbie at putting web pages together. Thanks, Diann P.

I sure do need some help! I am trying to import an LDS Gedcom file into a new "Family Origin" database. I have tried to follow the instructions in the Family Origins Handbook, "Importing A Gedcom File" I am unable to read the LDS Gedcom file - it is not in English text. Can someone walk me thru the procedure - I am really new to this. Most appreciative Greta in Lake Placid, Florida. Greta in Lake Placid, Fl mailto:gretasgarden@htn.net

Hi Greta -- It sounds like this is NOT a gedcom file. If it's a gedcom, you can open it with MS Word, WordPad, NotePad or any other text editor. What is the extension on the end of the filename (e.g. .dat, .doc, .txt, .fow, etc.)? -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "gretasgarden" <gretasgarden@htn.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: [FO] Importing GEDCOM fil;es > I sure do need some help! I am trying to import an LDS Gedcom file into a > new "Family Origin" database. > > I have tried to follow the instructions in the Family Origins Handbook, > "Importing A Gedcom File" I am unable to read the LDS Gedcom file - it is > not in English text. > > Can someone walk me thru the procedure - I am really new to this. > > Most appreciative Greta in Lake Placid, Florida. > Greta in Lake Placid, Fl > mailto:gretasgarden@htn.net > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Pellow" <mapellow@yahoo.com> > What does geneaolgy source citation protocol have to say about > this situation? (And, while I'm at it, are there any > suggestions for written references that would cover this kind of > operational detail?) Thanks in advance, > > -- Matt Matt, An excellent genealogical citation guide is Elizabeth Shown Mills' book, "Evidence! Citation & Analysis for the Family Historian". I strongly recommend that you purchase the book if you're just getting started, or even if you're not. I refer to my copy constantly. It has detailed citation format examples for all the major record types, and some not so major. Although nothing is covered that would fit your notes specifically, I would probably go with using the ERA Personal Papers that you mentioned, and modify the citation for either a personal letter or an unpublished manuscript that are given in the book. These two come closer to the category of your grandmother's notes than anything else. Peggy