What does this have to do with Family Origins? I am not scolding, it's just that Family Origins has no facility for OCR. That has to be done with a dedicated OCR program. I think that some will read characters from a picture file, but the one I have has to have control of the scanner as it works. Once you get the text into a file, clean it up with a good word processor, THEN copy it into a Family Origins note or source. The type of document has quite a bit to do with the accuracy of the OCR too. I have found some OLD newspaper clippings are so yellowed that it is faster, even for me, to type it than it is to try correcting the OCR generated file. A good, clean, well spaced copy works the best. If the copy is small, old, crowded and faded, forgedaboudit. Good Luck, Alfred ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darci" <djohn@netnet.net> > I want to scan an obituary into the database but instead of image, I'm > trying to convert to text using OCR and keep getting jumbled words. Has > anyone done this with success? Darci > >

I want to scan an obituary into the database but instead of image, I'm trying to convert to text using OCR and keep getting jumbled words. Has anyone done this with success? Darci

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mason" <linda@amason.clara.net> > To all who have helped me with my codebase error messages I would like to > say a heartfelt thank you. I have managed to restore a recent database and > am now doing frequent back-ups! > I notice that others have had the same problem and error messages - is this > a common fault with the programme or are we all doing something obviously > wrong? > Linda > ========== It is somewhat common with version 9.0 on some systems. I don't think it has been decided just why some people have the problem and some don't, but a patch has been developed for the program that pretty well stops it. I have one key on my keyboard programmed to print this message: Some of the problems with Family Origins 9.0 are addressed in a program patch. This patch upgrades Family Origins 9.0 to 9.02, and is a free download of about 1MB found at: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm This will not eliminate all problems, nothing can, I know that I have blown things by jumping from one thing to another too quickly. Other times, something goes wrong that I have no Idea what caused it. The only thing anyone can do is to keep a good, up to date backup so that if something does go wrong, it will not be a complete disaster. A rotating backup works well, using about three disks backup to #1 one time, #2 the next time, and #3 the next. then start over with #1. Three is not a magic number, but it is unlikely that you would backup bad data more than once or twice without noticing it. It is a good idea to “Restore” a backup to a fresh folder once in a while, just to be sure that you are really getting a backup, I have heard of people who tried restoring after a crash, only to discover that their backup disks were blank. If you have a long list to input at one time, it isn’t a bad idea to backup your data to the hard drive every half hour or so, just in case something goes wrong. It takes very little time, and is good insurance. Each subsequent backup will overwrite the previous one unless you put it in another folder, so it doesn’t use up too much disk space. Good Luck, Alfred

It all depends on the quality of the scanner, the document, and the OCR program. If you are using the OCR program that came with your scanner, it probably doesn't work very well. You can get a better one for around $100, or a great one for about $1000. AABBY Fine Reader, Omni Page, and Text Bridge Pro are three that I have used and all work pretty well. For me and my arthritic hands, any are an improvement over typing. Norma

Hi List, Just couldn't resist replying to this message ! My big laugh is that although John must not have known how to "unsubscribe" correctly (see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS.html for the answer)...his email to the list, in fact, contained the tagline that "explained". Me thinks the list server needs some sort of artificial intelligence or predictive capabilities about which taglines to attach. LOL, poor Alfred!!! ----------------------------------------------------- In a message dated Wed, 30 May 2001 4:40:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Johnreid44@aol.com writes: << Request to UNSUBSCRIBE. . . . please ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST >>

"Evelyn Barefoot" <ebarefoot@buckeye-express.com> wrote: >The second descendants chart is under Reports, lists, descendants chart. This one > gives number of each generation but not the marriage. I wanted the m and > the generation Number. Evelyn This descendant chart under the lists tab of the reports will give you the marriage date and place if you choose the "information to include for each person" to be "name, b, m, d and place (4 lines) when you set up your options for the chart. Wayne League

You need to have the program that will format the CD in the packet mode. This is different than a standard CD burn. It usually takes about a half hour or more to format the CDRW, but then you can use it just as you would any other removable media. To me, this is longer that I care to spend formatting a disk. I have tried it, but had difficulty in recovering the data. With that, I went to straight cd burns, either CDR or CDRW. As CDR disks are as low as $.05 ea in larger quantities (200), its easier to burn the disk and later use it for ornaments or bird chasers <G>. The one problem about the packet mode, is that it is quite often particular to the drive and packet software that you used initially. If you have to change anything, then you may not be able to recover. The safest and most readable in the CD methods is a burn from the hard drive to a CDR in a standard ISO format. You should be able to read this in almost any CD Rom drive. Keith Paul Divan wrote: > > Can someone tell me how to backup my family data on a CD Rewrite Program. I have FO Version 9.2. Thank you. Marge. > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Efax # (419) 818-1912 JFax & Voicemail (530) 484-3831

----- Original Message ----- From: Evelyn Barefoot <ebarefoot@buckeye-express.com> To: Keith Thompson <kthomps7@columbus.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Descendants chart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Thompson <kthomps7@columbus.rr.com> > To: Evelyn Barefoot <ebarefoot@buckeye-express.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [FO] Descendants chart > > > > Is this the type of report you were looking for: > > > > Descendants of Albert THOMPSON * - 29 May 2001 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 1-Albert THOMPSON * > > b: At least 1811 > > d: 17 Mar 1901 > > sp: Mary Frances CHAPMAN > > m: 23 Dec 1875 in Winnebago Co., Illinois > > d: 19 Nov 1930 > > . . .2-Nettie Mable THOMPSON > > b: 11 Sep 1876 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., Illinois > > d: 22 Sep 1878 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., Illinois > > . . .2-Ruby THOMPSON > > b: 3 Dec 1877 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., Illinois > > d: 17 Dec 1878 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., Illinois > > . . .2-Selina Elizabeth (Warner) THOMPSON > > b: 14 Sep 1883 > > d: 4 Feb 1961 > > . . .2-Clarence Danforth THOMPSON * > > b: 25 Jun 1884 in Minnesota ?? (may be Iowa) > > d: Mar 1971 in Carnation, King Co., Washington > > . . .sp: Blanche Miller KAY * > > m: 15 Sep 1908 in Kennebee, , South Dakota > > d: 1920 in Ewing, Holt Co., Nebraska > > . . . . . 3-Vernon Raymon THOMPSON > > b: 2 May 1913 in Ewing, Holt Co., Nebraska > > d: 11 Sep 1987 in Blaine, , Minnesota > > . . . . . sp: Julia TOFTE > > . . . . . . . .4-Gary Dean THOMPSON > > b: Mar 1936 > > . . . . . . . .sp: Carol FRITCHMAN > > . . . . . . . . . . 5-Debra THOMPSON > > > > > > If so, its from Reports, Lists, Descendants. > > > > Keith Thompson > > > > Evelyn Barefoot wrote: > > > > > > Hopefully one of you wizards can help me. I want to make a descendants > chart to go with a book I completed, the last time I did this the > descendants chart showed a number for each person in accordance with their > generation, Now it does not and I can't find a way to make it do this. Any > help will be appreciated. Evelyn > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > > Very basic Windows: > http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > > > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > -- > > Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH > > Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ > > Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson > > Efax # (419) 818-1912 JFax & Voicemail (530) 484-3831 > > Thank you Keith for your kind assistance. There are two descendants > lists, one under reports, box charts, and then descendants chart. The one > under box charts gives m date but not number of the generation. The second > descendants chart is under Reports, lists, descendants chart. This one > gives number of each generation but not the marriage. I wanted the m and > the generation Number. Evelyn >

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In a message dated 5/30/2001 3:05:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, adeller@santel.net writes: > I haven't seen Windows ME, but I suspect that the Find function is still in > the START menu. > It is available. It's called "Search" now. Click on start/search/for files or folders. Darold "Doc" M. Blanchard SFC, US Army, Retired http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clinehetsler/ Rootsweb sponsor

Sorry, I did not hit the reply to all button on my first message. On windows ME, to find the cdx extensions for FYI 1. Click on Start Button 2. Highlight the search button 3. Click on For Files or Folders 4. type in : asterisk.cdx 5. click on search now and it will show you all the diles with cdx externsion Henry sorry if this is repeating common knowledge already.

P.S. if you go to the "View" menu in Windows Explorer or Find, and change it to "Details" you can sort the files by any heading in the list by clicking on it, reverse the sort by clicking again on the same heading. See my tirade on using Windows Explorer at: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/explorer.htm Alfred ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net> > Norma, I have looked thru W.E. for the CDX files and fine one. ------SNIP------

I haven't seen Windows ME, but I suspect that the Find function is still in the START menu. Select that and look for files named "*.CDX" without the quotation marks on your hard drive. That should all the "CDX" files on the drive. There should be several with the first seven letters of your database, in this case "William" one other letter and the extension of "CDX". You can select these right in the find window and delete them. The other CDX files that are found will be of your two other databases, no need to bother them as long as those databases are working. (There could also be some other program that uses the extension of CDX, so be careful to only mark the "WILLIAMx.CDX" files for deletion Then try again, what Norma said. Good Luck, Alfred ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net> > Norma, I have looked thru W.E. for the CDX files and fine none. There were > so many I could have missed one or two------SNIP------

Does Windows ME have a "find" tool on the Windows start menu? If so, search your entire hard disk for "*.cdx" that is Splat dot cdx. I never used version 7, but I don't remember anyone mentioning it being any different from others so it should have cdx files. Especially since your error message mentions one of them as being bad. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net> To: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net>; <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Codebase Errors > Norma, I have looked thru W.E. for the CDX files and fine none. There were > so many I could have missed one or two. But none seen. I didn't mention I > am runing Windows ME on a new Gateway, and v. 7.0 in FOW, installed the week > before Easter so its 8 weeks old. And I had not been bothered with these > problems until I got this computer. Paul Smith has been a "dear man" coming > to help me. I think we (it) has him puzzled also. And he suggested I write > the list for help. So I need any help. On the"Codebase Errors" > Thanks, Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> > To: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net>; <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:00 AM > Subject: Re: [FO] Codebase Errors > > > > >From Windows Explorer, you can delete all of the files that end with CDX. > > When you open that database again, you will see a box that says > > "re-indexing". When it is done, you will have your database back. (P.S. if > > you are using Win 98, the CDX files will go to the re-cycle bin, which > > always makes me more comfortable about deleteing things.) > > > > Norma > > > > > >

Norma, I have looked thru W.E. for the CDX files and fine none. There were so many I could have missed one or two. But none seen. I didn't mention I am runing Windows ME on a new Gateway, and v. 7.0 in FOW, installed the week before Easter so its 8 weeks old. And I had not been bothered with these problems until I got this computer. Paul Smith has been a "dear man" coming to help me. I think we (it) has him puzzled also. And he suggested I write the list for help. So I need any help. On the"Codebase Errors" Thanks, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> To: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net>; <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Codebase Errors > >From Windows Explorer, you can delete all of the files that end with CDX. > When you open that database again, you will see a box that says > "re-indexing". When it is done, you will have your database back. (P.S. if > you are using Win 98, the CDX files will go to the re-cycle bin, which > always makes me more comfortable about deleteing things.) > > Norma > >

I do it the long way: I copy all the files to the CDROM. My CD burning software doesn't handle ZIP files well, otherwise I would just do a normal backup onto the hard disk and then copy the ZIPfile. Michael In article <000e01c0e0c9$8e10fc20$23e96620@default>, navidfl@worldnet.att.net (Paul Divan) wrote: > Can someone tell me how to backup my family data on a CD Rewrite > Program. I have FO Version 9.2. Thank you. Marge.

I worked with Mary on this problem for a bit but other problems with her system forced us to work on other areas. For clarification, this is only one error. The three errors Mary lists occur sequentially until FOW closes automatically. If you re-open FOW and attempt to open the same database often enough, eventually it will open. We backed up all databases and other files and then completely rebuilt her system from the ground up using Gateway's disks. We installed FOW and restored all databases from backups. The problem persisted; three databases are fine but the fourth gives the error and shuts down FOW. Mary: Repeatedly attempt to open the bad database until you get it to open. Click 'File' 'Pack [compress] database'. A window will open asking if you want to do a backup first. Just say no <G>. Then, do a backup of that database to a different place c:\test or c:\1 would be fine. Then close the database and try reopening it several times to see if the Pack has solved the problem. If not, import the backup you just created and try opening that several times. -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbraden" <maybe@pdq.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: [FO] Codebase Errors > I am having trouble entering one of my databases, and I sure could use some help, please. I am running 7.1 They are as follows: (three of them) > I get these messages; > > No. 1 Codebase Errors > Error#: -60 > Error# 90615 > Open File > file4open > C:\MyDocuments\FamilyOriginsDatabases\Williamm.CDX > (OK) > > No. 2 Codebase Error > Error#: -935 > Error#: 94001 > Null Input Parameter > Unexpected d4field > (OK) > > > No. 3 > Program Error > Exiting Application > (CLOSE) > > > Is there anyway to save this database? It is one that I have made myself, no part of it is imported. > I will appreciate any and all the help I can get. > > Thanks to all for a find program. > > Mary Braden > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

This may be off topic, but this is my dilemma. Someone who is not at all computer literate sent an FTW file to me, someone who is only mildly computer literate. The problem is that it was sent with FTW version 8. I do own a version 7.5 which I DO NOT use as I am a Family Origins program user. Is there any way I can get this converted so that I might view it either in my FO program or my FTW program? I would write back and ask her to GEDCOM the file, but I had already tried to walk her through that and that didn't work. Anyone have any ideas how I can read this file? Carol

This has happened to me on occassion. Generally I discover that one of the two "identical" sources also has a repository attached to it, while the other doesn't. Regards, Brianne Kelly-Bly NJGenWeb - Morris County http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris Beware of the Genealogy Bug; It's bite can be addictive! -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Bryan [mailto:c24m48@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:50 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] merging identical sources doesn't work From: "Darci" <djohn@netnet.net> To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] merging identical sources doesn't work Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:54:57 -0500 I've added an imported gedcom into a database, that went well. One source I used was identical to both databases. I use the "merge source" to combine the exact same sources together into one but still shows as a double listing. I changed each to just New York State Men without any other data, publisher, year, etc., and it still doesn't combine. Anything I can change when trying this? Thank you. Darci Did you check the repository? That has to be the same as well in order for the merge to work. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

From: "Darci" <djohn@netnet.net> To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] merging identical sources doesn't work Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:54:57 -0500 I've added an imported gedcom into a database, that went well. One source I used was identical to both databases. I use the "merge source" to combine the exact same sources together into one but still shows as a double listing. I changed each to just New York State Men without any other data, publisher, year, etc., and it still doesn't combine. Anything I can change when trying this? Thank you. Darci Did you check the repository? That has to be the same as well in order for the merge to work. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com