Do you have plenty of RAM memory? John Ballard ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMcKellep@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: [FO] Two windows > I am now having problems when I have two files open at the same time. It > seems that the one I am working in occasionally locks up. Is this a common > problem, or do I need to re-install my program? > > Thanks > Kathy McKellep-Lathrop > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Your best help will arrive when you tell the list what version of FO you are running. If version 8.0 or 9.0 there are patches available for download at http://www.formalsoft.com/files.htm to solve many problems. -=Kevin=- ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMcKellep@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: [FO] Two windows I am now having problems when I have two files open at the same time. It seems that the one I am working in occasionally locks up. Is this a common problem, or do I need to re-install my program? Thanks Kathy McKellep-Lathrop

How much memory do you have in your computer? What do you have your "Virtual" memory set at? It sounds like you are running out of resources of some kind, and memory is the primary suspect. Re-installing the program very seldom fixes anything, although an awfully lot of people recommend it. Alfred D Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMcKellep@aol.com> > I am now having problems when I have two files open at the same time. It > seems that the one I am working in occasionally locks up. Is this a common > problem, or do I need to re-install my program? > > Thanks > Kathy McKellep-Lathrop >

I am now having problems when I have two files open at the same time. It seems that the one I am working in occasionally locks up. Is this a common problem, or do I need to re-install my program? Thanks Kathy McKellep-Lathrop

Hi, I used Re-immigration for the second time they came to America. Clare

<< In FTM, you can also prepare an "outline descendant tree" report. Highlight the person of interest, create the report and while it is showing on screen, create a Gedcom from that report. The Gedcom will only contain the people listed in the report... In addition, you can also prepare a "kinship report" for the person you're interested in, and while that report is showing on screen, create a Gedcom based on the report. All people listed in the kinship report will be exported to the Gedcom. This Gedcom would contain more people than an "outline descendant tree" export. >> This sounds like a nice "selective" feature. Being able to fully visualize who is gonna be in the Gedcom makes sense! -=Kevin=-

There is a built in "Fact Type" called "Living" that may give the results that you seek. Or it would be possible to create a fact called "Removed" if "Living" does not produce the desired results. Further expansion of either fact type could be done by using the associated note field. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "bjorkman" <bjorkman@epix.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: [FO] Non-Standard Fact Titles > I'm looking for suggestions for the name of Fact titles to cover the > following situations: > > A) > My father and grandparents emigrated from Sweden in 1907. I recorded this > event by > entering the date and place of emigration from Sweden under the fact > "Emigration". > Their arrival date to New York is recorded under the fact "Immigration". > > My grandmother was very homesick and she and my father returned to Sweden > in 1911 > and returned to America the following year, 1912. It seems inappropriate to > reuse the > facts Emigration and Immigration to record this event, but what should the > event be > called? "Return to America" or ??? > > My reluctance to reuse Emigration and Immigration is based on my dictionary > definition > of immigration, " to come to a new country or region or environment, esp. > to settle there". > Since they already settled here and my grandfather stayed here during their > absence > maintaining the household, then it would seem that they didn't emigrate or > immigrate > on their second voyage to America.. But what do you call this event? > > B) > Another family relation immigrated in 1836 to NYC at the age of two with > his parents. > In 1852 he sailed from New York to Panama, crossed the isthmus and then > sailed up > Pacific to San Francisco. What is the best title to document this event? > Migration ? > > I'm open to all suggestions. These are not critical points, but interesting > bits of family history > which presently lie in paper form in folders, unrecorded in my database. > I'd like to share this > information cousins. It would far easier to combine it with all the other > standard facts so > easily recorded in FO, so it would be delivered in one package. I realize > that I could probably > alter a "Book Report" to add this info, but being a one finger typist, I'm > looking for an easier > way out. > > Bob Bjorkman > Carlisle, PA. > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I'm looking for suggestions for the name of Fact titles to cover the following situations: A) My father and grandparents emigrated from Sweden in 1907. I recorded this event by entering the date and place of emigration from Sweden under the fact "Emigration". Their arrival date to New York is recorded under the fact "Immigration". My grandmother was very homesick and she and my father returned to Sweden in 1911 and returned to America the following year, 1912. It seems inappropriate to reuse the facts Emigration and Immigration to record this event, but what should the event be called? "Return to America" or ??? My reluctance to reuse Emigration and Immigration is based on my dictionary definition of immigration, " to come to a new country or region or environment, esp. to settle there". Since they already settled here and my grandfather stayed here during their absence maintaining the household, then it would seem that they didn't emigrate or immigrate on their second voyage to America.. But what do you call this event? B) Another family relation immigrated in 1836 to NYC at the age of two with his parents. In 1852 he sailed from New York to Panama, crossed the isthmus and then sailed up Pacific to San Francisco. What is the best title to document this event? Migration ? I'm open to all suggestions. These are not critical points, but interesting bits of family history which presently lie in paper form in folders, unrecorded in my database. I'd like to share this information cousins. It would far easier to combine it with all the other standard facts so easily recorded in FO, so it would be delivered in one package. I realize that I could probably alter a "Book Report" to add this info, but being a one finger typist, I'm looking for an easier way out. Bob Bjorkman Carlisle, PA.

| In a message dated 7/10/01 7:19:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JTift@aol.com | writes: | | << FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >> | <<Would someone on the list please | send me specific instructions for generating and exporting a gedcom from FTM | and saving it to a disk >> | 1. Click on 'File' | 2. Click on 'Copy/Export Family File' | 3. Click on 'Save as type' drop down list and select 'GEDCOM' (*.GED)' -- | do not select FTM for DOS - uses GEDCOM (*.GED) | 4. In the 'File name' field, type a name for the GEDCOM file. It MUST have | the extension -- .GED | 5. In the 'Save in' fields, select the drive and folder where you want to | place your file ---probably A for diskette click on arrow to find the | listing of files. | 6. Click 'Save' | 7. Make your selections from the dialog box. I would use Destination as FTW, | GEDCOM Version 5.5, Character set ANSI and let the check mark stay in | Abbreviate tags. Then click OK | 8. It will then export the whole file. | | If you want only part of them, she would have to make a new file in FTM with | the individuals selected. | Good luck. Byron In addition to the excellent instructions above, which will export ALL the people in the database, the following options are available for creating a Gedcom file. The following are two options that work wonderfully well for extracting a "direct line" or "all related kin" of a particular person. In FTM, you can also prepare an "outline descendant tree" report. Highlight the person of interest, create the report and while it is showing on screen, create a Gedcom from that report. The Gedcom will only contain the people listed in the report. With the report on screen, go to FILE, look for the entry .... Copy/Export Individuals in Outline Descendant Tree about halfway down the menu. In addition, you can also prepare a "kinship report" for the person you're interested in, and while that report is showing on screen, create a Gedcom based on the report. All people listed in the kinship report will be exported to the Gedcom. This Gedcom would contain more people than an "outline descendant tree" export. With the report on screen, go to FILE, look for the entry ... Copy/Export Individuals about midway down the menu Both of these methods are an easy way to filter/gather/export certain people, without having to share the entire database. Mary mleek@bellsouth.net

In a message dated 7/10/01 7:19:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JTift@aol.com writes: << FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >> <<Would someone on the list please send me specific instructions for generating and exporting a gedcom from FTM and saving it to a disk >> 1. Click on 'File' 2. Click on 'Copy/Export Family File' 3. Click on 'Save as type' drop down list and select 'GEDCOM' (*.GED)' -- do not select FTM for DOS - uses GEDCOM (*.GED) 4. In the 'File name' field, type a name for the GEDCOM file. It MUSt have the extension -- .GED 5. In the 'Save in' fields, select the drive and folder where you want to place your file ---probably A for diskette click on arrow to find the listing of files. 6. Click 'Save' 7. Make yor selections from the dialog box. I would use Destination as FTW, GEDCOM Version 5.5, Character set ANSI and let the check mark stay in Abbreviate tags. Then click OK 8. It will then export the whole file. If you want only part of them, she would have to make a new file in FTM with the individuals selected. Not as easy as Family Origins, but it works -- I think. I have never done it. I go from Family Origins to FTM once in while where there is something in FTM that I can't get in FO but only when absolutely necessary. Good luck. Byron

I have a cousin who uses Family Tree Maker. Would someone on the list please send me specific instructions for generating and exporting a gedcom from FTM and saving it to a disk so she can send me a gedcom. Generating gedcoms in Family Origins is so easy, but I have several cousins who use other programs and evidently their gedcom instructions are not as simple as FO. Thanks for your help! Jane Lindsey Tift (Sitting in Tuscola, Texas, eagerly anticipating an announcement concerning Version 10....22 more days until August :>)

Hi, I am using Family Origins v4.0 in german. This program is really excellent. But in the last days I found the Family Origins web page and read about the features of the newest version FO9. I just have to have this! The only question is: where can I order a german version of FO9? If there is a german translation of the FO9 book, I would buy it, too! Grüße from Germany, Marcel Gleis

This is my recommendation for importing a GEDCOM into an existing database, whether it is one of your own or one you received from a stranger. Make a backup of your main database! (when I say “Make a backup” I mean, “Make a new backup” don’t overwrite the previous ones here, because if you have a bad error, and you overwrite a good backup with that error, all you have is a duplicate file of your errors.) If you get a GEDCOM from someone, a distant cousin, import it into a new, empty database and study it a bit. You will probably find that it has a lot of duplicate information, but some tree branches or individuals, that you don’t have. To add the single individuals, it is about as easy to type the information in as it is to GEDCOM drag and drop. Although dragging and dropping one individual is quite simple and straightforward. Clean up this temporary file by editing the place names so they conform to your specifications. Check the sources, some people have a lot of redundant information in their sources (looking in a mirror as I type ;-) A source of “GEDCOM file imported July 23, 1998” doesn’t mean much to the first party, and much less to the second. If that is all you have, I think that it might as well be deleted. If you know who it was from, that adds enough to make it useful. Make a backup of your main database! Once you have the temporary database cleaned up, export a separate GEDCOM for each one of those new branches. Import that branch into a copy of your main database and link it to the proper part of the tree, check for any duplicates and merge them. Make a backup of your main database! Import the next branch into your main database, link and merge everything into place. Make a backup of your main database! ETC. Etc. etc. There are some on this list who never import a GEDCOM, they always retype all of the data. I just aint dat good wid a typwritr. Alfred D Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare" <Clare@Sierratel.com> > Dear FOers... > > A while back I asked about how to delete all the duplicate entries > caused by my importing a GEDCOM...I'm only up to the "D's" and it's a > slow go, tedious and mind-numbing, so I want to know if there is a way > to COMBINE two databases in a way that will not duplicate any of the > entries when some of the entries are identical in each database? > > Clare >

"john laws" <registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk> wrote: >When I transferred by GEDCOM data (17685 records from Sierra >Generations v5 to Family Origins v4) all the records came over OK >except any notes and when I cut & paste, any (£) appear as umlaut, >(spelt wrong I guess but you know the German (u) with two dots above. Thinking first about why the notes did not transfer, some programs in their gedcom files reference notes to the name on the 1 level and Family Origins will not accept that. You can change the reference from the 1 NAME level to the individual record on the 0 level and then FO will accept the note as a general note. ie: if you see a structure like this in your gedcom file: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME Ava Eugenia /Britt/ 2 NOTE This note will not come through in FO then change it to this: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME Ava Eugenia /Britt/ 1 NOTE Now this note will come through. and the note will appear in FO as a general note. (That's only one possibility of why the notes aren't there.) As for the British pound sign (£) and the umlaut (ü), I can copy and paste both with FO on my computer. Maybe the problem is somewhere in the language settings you have in windows. Wayne League

In my old Star Micronics printer book I found the ASCII character sets. In the extended standard set the number 156 references the ü but in the IBM extended character set the number 156 references the £, which is what I get if I hold down the Alt key and type 156 on the numeric keypad. So, I would suspect that the two programs are speaking different languages. Those numbers above 127 were never set in stone as the first 128 were. But, I don't know what to do about it, unless you could do a search and replace in the GEDCOM. Good Luck, Alfred ========= ----- Original Message ----- From: "john laws" <registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk> > Hi List > > When I transferred by GEDCOM data (17685 records from Sierra Generations v5 to Family Origins v4) all the records came over OK except any notes and when I cut & paste, any (£) appear as umlaut, (spelt wrong I guess but you know the German (u) with two dots above. >

Dear FOers... A while back I asked about how to delete all the duplicate entries caused by my importing a GEDCOM...I'm only up to the "D's" and it's a slow go, tedious and mind-numbing, so I want to know if there is a way to COMBINE two databases in a way that will not duplicate any of the entries when some of the entries are identical in each database? Clare

Hi List When I transferred by GEDCOM data (17685 records from Sierra Generations v5 to Family Origins v4) all the records came over OK except any notes and when I cut & paste, any (£) appear as umlaut, (spelt wrong I guess but you know the German (u) with two dots above. Any ideas? More of a irritation than a problem John P LAWS Registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk http://www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk laws@one-name.org Listowner:- laws-uk-l@rootsweb.com Listowner:- wolstencroft-l@rootsweb.com Listowner:- tree-warden-links-l@nature.rootsweb.com Member of GOONS Putting Flesh on the Bones of History Join our newsgroup send a mail to LAWS-UK-L-Request@Rootsweb.com put nothing in the message other than the word SUBSCRIBE The LAWS FAMILY REGISTER welcomes your support, for details go to our website http://www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk THIS Email is made out of environmentally friendly ASCII Text. Feel free to forward our newsletters to anyone who might be interested. This e-mail does NOT have any attachments from us. Any attachment should be regarded as a virus and be deleted. In this case, please notify us immediately!

Didn't have the patch and didn't know about it. Thank you very much for the information Wayne and Alfred. Kathy McKellep-Lathrop

KMcKellep@aol.com wrote: >Can anyone tell me the best way to move names and notes from one file to >another? I am using version 8.0 (have ordered v. 9.0). I have two files and >for some reason I didn't want to merge them. I think I had it in my mind >that the 'merge' feature had a problem, so I dragged and dropped the oldest >ancestor and all of his relatives into the other file. It did not move the >notes. Do I have to copy/paste the notes separately for each person? First of all, have you applied the patch to upgrade your version 8.0 to 8.03? There is definitely problems in 8.0 with the drag & drop that are fixed with the 8.03 patch. Go to http://formalsoft.com/files.htm to get the patch if you have not. Dragging and dropping moves the notes as well as all data for the people you d&d. What it does not do is merge the people you move that way with the same people that may already be there. If you are seeing the people you dragged and dropped and the notes are missing then you may be looking at a copy of that person that was already in the destination database. Look in FO explorer and see if there isn't another person there that is the same one. After you D & D you must then merge all the duplicates that resulted. (Some people drag & drop only one person at a time because it is easier to keep up with everyone you moved that way) If you drag & drop with version 8.0 before you apply the patch for 8.03 then you will get a false source for every one moved. The 8.03 patch provides fixes for other problems also. You can read about what all it fixes from the download site. Wayne League

I can tell Family Origins to not export the notes to a GEDCOM, but I cannot tell it, not make it, not move the notes when I drag and drop. I do not know why the notes didn’t transfer. The merge problem is still there with drag and drop the same as it is with the GEDCOM export and import. I prefer the GEDCOM, because I have more control over what I export. If you drag anyone into a database that is already there, you will have to merge the like individuals. Merging is when you have two instances of the same individual and you combine or merge them into one. It gets to be tiresome if you have many to do. Good luck, Alfred =========== ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMcKellep@aol.com> > Can anyone tell me the best way to move names and notes from one file to > another? I am using version 8.0 (have ordered v. 9.0). I have two files and > for some reason I didn't want to merge them. I think I had it in my mind > that the 'merge' feature had a problem, so I dragged and dropped the oldest > ancestor and all of his relatives into the other file. It did not move the > notes. Do I have to copy/paste the notes separately for each person? > > Thank you > Kathy McKellep-Lathrop