I just tried it, I got the same message you did when I put a brand new disk in the drive and tried to backup to it. I used the Adaptec DirectCD Wizard to format the disk, then tried a backup, it worked slick as "frost on the back stoop", much faster than to a floppy. Now I remember why I hadn't done this before. There was a warning when I removed the disk that it wasn't readable by regular CD drives, only writeable or rewriteable CD drives would be able to read it. I have a couple of the old, read only drives and there is always the possibility that this drive will go bad and I will have to use the old ones. (does any one know how to spell writeable/writable? It must be too new for Microsoft Word 2000) The Adaptec Create CD, where you write everything in one session and can not write to the same disk again, writes in a format that is readable by all CD drives. Good Luck, Alfred ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <aparnes@earthlink.net> > I've been backing up both to MY DOCUMENTS folder and to a CD-RW. > > Now I need to use a new CD. > > I am getting the following message: "You do not have permission to open > this file. See the owner of the file or an administrator to obtain > permission." > > The CD is empty. There is no password on my entire HD (I am the only user). > > What can be wrong? > > Thanks > Arlene >

I've been backing up both to MY DOCUMENTS folder and to a CD-RW. Now I need to use a new CD. I am getting the following message: "You do not have permission to open this file. See the owner of the file or an administrator to obtain permission." The CD is empty. There is no password on my entire HD (I am the only user). What can be wrong? Thanks Arlene

Have you formatted the CD? I have to study up on this usage, but it seems to me that to be able to write directly to a CD in multiple sessions, you have to format them first. You can burn a CD in one session without formatting it, but you can not write to it again. If you are using the rewriteable CDs, of course you can, but then the first part is erased and the new files overwrite it. (I think!) Good luck, Alfred =========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <aparnes@earthlink.net> > I've been backing up both to MY DOCUMENTS folder and to a CD-RW. > > Now I need to use a new CD. > > I am getting the following message: "You do not have permission to open > this file. See the owner of the file or an administrator to obtain > permission." > > The CD is empty. There is no password on my entire HD (I am the only user). > > What can be wrong? > > Thanks > Arlene > >

With DirectCD, before you can write to the disk like that, you first have to format the disk to be readable and writeable as any floppy would be (but NOT on any PC). Then after you write to it, before you eject the disk, you have to change it to be readable on any PC, whether or not it has DirectCD software on it. This can be done by right mouse clicking on the little open icon for DirectCD. If you close the session without closing the CD, you can write to it again the next time you insert it by right-clicking again and making it writable. It will not overwrite existing files. At 12:51 PM 7/16/01 -0500, Alfred Eller wrote: >I just tried it, I got the same message you did when I put a brand new disk >in the drive and tried to backup to it. > >I used the Adaptec DirectCD Wizard to format the disk, then tried a backup, >it worked slick as "frost on the back stoop", much faster than to a floppy. > >Now I remember why I hadn't done this before. There was a warning when I >removed the disk that it wasn't readable by regular CD drives, only >writeable or rewriteable CD drives would be able to read it. I have a >couple of the old, read only drives and there is always the possibility that >this drive will go bad and I will have to use the old ones. > >(does any one know how to spell writeable/writable? It must be too new for >Microsoft Word 2000) > >The Adaptec Create CD, where you write everything in one session and can not >write to the same disk again, writes in a format that is readable by all CD >drives. > >Good Luck, >Alfred > >========== > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Arlene" <aparnes@earthlink.net> > > > I've been backing up both to MY DOCUMENTS folder and to a CD-RW. > > > > Now I need to use a new CD. > > > > I am getting the following message: "You do not have permission to open > > this file. See the owner of the file or an administrator to obtain > > permission." > > > > The CD is empty. There is no password on my entire HD (I am the only >user). > > > > What can be wrong? > > > > Thanks > > Arlene > >

I created a fact entitle obituary. In this fact I place the name of the newspaper and the date of publication. The notes hold the text of the obit. When I do a "Book" it reads: John had an obituary published on 1 January 2001 in Anycity Record, Anywhere, ZZ. Text of obituary is:..... This allows me to create a custom report listing everyone that I have an obit for, or those I need to find. Regards, Brianne Kelly-Bly NJGenWeb - Morris County http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris Beware of the Genealogy Bug; It's bite can be addictive! -----Original Message----- From: Frank L. Rose [mailto:mvflr@loa.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 8:31 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Orbits It depends on the use of the obit. If you are using it as a source of data for several people then making the obit a source would probably be the better choice. That way the obit could be easily referenced for each person. If you are using it as information on a specific person then it would probably be better to use it as a note for that person's death entry. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronaldwalt" <ronaldwalt@email.msn.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Orbits > Where would you put obituaries in Notes or Sources? > Ronnie ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

I do both. I have a source called "Obit (General Source)". For a new obit I create a citation with the person's name, the newspaper, day of publication and page number followed by the text "For full text see death note." I put the full text of the obit in the death note. I use the "memorize" button and "paste" the obit source with the citation for each fact entered from the obit. Dan "Frank L. Rose" wrote: > > It depends on the use of the obit. If you are using it as a source of data > for several people then making the obit a source would probably be the > better choice. That way the obit could be easily referenced for each > person. > > If you are using it as information on a specific person then it would > probably be better to use it as a note for that person's death entry. > > FL Rose > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronaldwalt" <ronaldwalt@email.msn.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 1:48 AM > Subject: Re: [FO] Orbits > > > Where would you put obituaries in Notes or Sources? > > Ronnie > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

It depends on the use of the obit. If you are using it as a source of data for several people then making the obit a source would probably be the better choice. That way the obit could be easily referenced for each person. If you are using it as information on a specific person then it would probably be better to use it as a note for that person's death entry. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronaldwalt" <ronaldwalt@email.msn.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Orbits > Where would you put obituaries in Notes or Sources? > Ronnie

I'm creating a Descendant's Book - indented type in FO 9.02 Occasionally the line "XXX & YYY had the following children" will be clear to the left margin instead of included in the previous paragraph or on aligned with the previous paragraph. Also, occasionally there seem to be extra blank lines between siblings, or between an individual's vitals and the paragraph of their marriage vitals. At first I thought these incidents resulted from "empty" notes, but after clearing several empty notes that showed an "*" the above anomalies still occur. Does anyone have an clue as to a cure? And what's the best way to Global Search for Notes that contain spaces? Thanks for any help, Dick Chroninger chrono@asde.net www.asde.net/~chrono http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrono/

Where would you put obituaries in Notes or Sources? Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Frost" <sfrost@tiac.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: [FO] 9.0 program crash > Please Help!!! > My FO 9.0 with my life's work on it (since the first FO version about 10 years ago) has just crashed and won't open. I had been getting 'invalid page fault' for a few days that shut down the program. Tech support said to compress/pack the database, which I did (the book also said this might help). Today it said - [Error 200 Error 83805 File is not a Data File database corruption detected C:\Program Files\ParsonsTechnology\FamilyOrigins\ROBC.DBF] The next box said - [Error 935 Error 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4field] the next said - [Program error Exiting Application] > Is this the kind of thing the patches would help, or is it too late? I've only been working in one of my databases, so don't know if it's just this one, or all, or my computer. > I'd be so grateful for any help or direction to go in. > Thank you. > Sandy > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Yes! That is what the patch is for. Yes! It is too late now. Unless you have a recent backing up of your data. And, Yes! It is only the one database, (at least for now – Get the patch installed!!!) If you do not have a backup, follow Linda’s advice and get some professional help to recover your data. If you have a backup and cannot get into the program to restore a backup: You can rename or delete the file in the windows folder named “FOWIN32.INI” and then you can reopen Family Origins and restore a backup or open another database. (If you don’t install the patch to make it 9.02, you will probably have it happen again) Some of the problems with Family Origins 9.0 are addressed in a program patch. This patch upgrades Family Origins 9.0 to 9.02, and is a free download of about 1MB found at: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm There are thousands hardware combinations, thousands of programs, thousands of ways to set up Windows, and only a small percentage of Family Origins users have that problem. Bruce has it pretty well stopped with the 9.02 patch, but the only real safety net is a good, recent backup. Even one on the hard drive in the same folder as the data files, where FOW puts the backup by default, would solve your problem. And, with only one keystroke each time you shut down. Good Luck, Alfred ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Frost" <sfrost@tiac.net> > Please Help!!! > My FO 9.0 with my life's work on it (since the first FO version about 10 years ago) has just crashed and won't open. I had been getting 'invalid page fault' for a few days that shut down the program. Tech support said to compress/pack the database, which I did (the book also said this might help). Today it said - [Error 200 Error 83805 File is not a Data File database corruption detected C:\Program Files\ParsonsTechnology\FamilyOrigins\ROBC.DBF] The next box said - [Error 935 Error 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4field] the next said - [Program error Exiting Application] > Is this the kind of thing the patches would help, or is it too late? I've only been working in one of my databases, so don't know if it's just this one, or all, or my computer. > I'd be so grateful for any help or direction to go in. > Thank you. > Sandy

Please Help!!! My FO 9.0 with my life's work on it (since the first FO version about 10 years ago) has just crashed and won't open. I had been getting 'invalid page fault' for a few days that shut down the program. Tech support said to compress/pack the database, which I did (the book also said this might help). Today it said - [Error 200 Error 83805 File is not a Data File database corruption detected C:\Program Files\ParsonsTechnology\FamilyOrigins\ROBC.DBF] The next box said - [Error 935 Error 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4field] the next said - [Program error Exiting Application] Is this the kind of thing the patches would help, or is it too late? I've only been working in one of my databases, so don't know if it's just this one, or all, or my computer. I'd be so grateful for any help or direction to go in. Thank you. Sandy

First, do you have current backups? Second (especially if not) do not run defrag utility on your computer, and stop using it if at all possible if you think you want a professional to try to recover your data files. Every time you use Windows and write to the hard drive, you run the risk of overwriting a file you need to recover. Linda On Sat, 14 July 2001, "Sandra Frost" wrote: > > Please Help!!! > My FO 9.0 with my life's work on it (since the first FO version about 10 years ago) has just crashed and won't open. I had been getting 'invalid page fault' for a few days that shut down the program. Tech support said to compress/pack the database, which I did (the book also said this might help). Today it said - [Error 200 Error 83805 File is not a Data File database corruption detected C:\Program Files\ParsonsTechnology\FamilyOrigins\ROBC.DBF] The next box said - [Error 935 Error 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4field] the next said - [Program error Exiting Application] > Is this the kind of thing the patches would help, or is it too late? I've only been working in one of my databases, so don't know if it's just this one, or all, or my computer. > I'd be so grateful for any help or direction to go in. > Thank you. > Sandy > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp _________________________________________________________________ iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web http://www.ivillage.com

Going to Internet, then clicking on “my home page” only takes you browsing to your home page, it won’t let you edit it in any way. To get there so you can edit your home page, you have to go to the “internet” menu item, select “go online” and follow the links: “create or edit your Web site” in the top paragraph, then in the right column of the resulting page are three choices, “Create”. Edit” or “delete” your home page. If you delete it, everything comes down, all your uploaded data pages and all. About the only thing you can edit is the text that appears on the home page, your name and your e-mail address. And of course cerate makes a new home page. I have never found a use for the username and password that Genealogy.com sends out, I wonder if they do some good for the FTM people? Now that you have created a new home page, I don’t think you will ever gain access to your old web page again, that new home page made a new file in the windows folder (fowinonl.ini) that seems to hold it’s own access code to your web page. This new file overwrote the old one so there isn’t much chance any more. You can probably send an email to Genealogy.com support and ask that they delete it for you, but I think that is about the best you can do now. Good Luck, Alfred P.S. It was probably the link to the FTM generated site that blew it up in the first place <};-) ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Hunter" <ronaldjhunter@netzero.net> > I can NOT access my home page: > http://www.familyorigins.com/users/h/u/n/Ronald-J-Hunter-OH/index.html > > I used the user names and password that was set to me when I created web > page. It now doesn't work. Clicking on Home Page from within FO doesn't > work either. > > I created new web page: > http://www.familyorigins.com/users/h/u/n/Ronald-J-Hunter/ > > How do I access old web page? > > Ron >

I can NOT access my home page: http://www.familyorigins.com/users/h/u/n/Ronald-J-Hunter-OH/index.html I used the user names and password that was set to me when I created web page. It now doesn't work. Clicking on Home Page from within FO doesn't work either. I created new web page: http://www.familyorigins.com/users/h/u/n/Ronald-J-Hunter/ How do I access old web page? Ron

This afternoon I noticed that nothing had been added to the archives since the morning of the 28th of June. I sent a question about it to the Roots Web Help desk and got this response: ------------------------- Alfred, we are waiting on hardware for the archives server. No word yet on when that will arrive, or when the thing will be installed. ------------------------- When I notice that it is working again, I will post a note to that effect here. In the mean time, I haven't deleted my copies of the digests for some time, if anyone wants to see a specific days posts,(after the 27th of June only) I will forward a copy to you. Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller

Must be getting close as I received a letter from Genealogy.com to buy ver 9 for $9.99 but I am going to wait on 10 Bryce Hager

I have made an error when putting an item into a scrapbook. Instead of entering the photo at 100% I have doubled the size. Although It is fine in on-screen viewing it is far to large and costly to send by E. Mail. Is there a way I can reduce the memory size back to 100%, without having to re-borrow the photograph and re-introduce it into the programme?. Any assistance gratefully received. Michael (chump) Dorey.

The news on the new release of Family Origins is the same as it always is this time of the year. Anyone that knows anything isn't talking. The rest of us are talking all the time. You can catch up on the nothings we have been talking about by browsing the archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users Alfred ============ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronboy1@msn.com> ------SNIP------ > Can someone please tell me the news on Version 10? When, etc. > Thanks, > Ron Mitchell >

After having gone to MSN Explorer for mail and the flap about whether to use 'email' in the address or not, I unscribed to FO and lots of other mail lists. I think I have it resolved now and have resubscribed. Can someone please tell me the news on Version 10? When, etc. Thanks, Ron Mitchell

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you entered a photo at "double the size" instead of 100%. If you used photographic software to change the size of the photo it should be possible to resize to a smaller photo. Remember do NOT use the original photo. Make a copy of the photo to work on. That said, there are several ways to prepare a photo to send by email. Make a copy and save it as a JPEG file. This does some compression of the photo data making a smaller file that can be sent as an email attachment. Make a ZIP file from the photo. This compresses the photo file into a smaller file that can be sent as an email attachment. Many of the photographic packages have the capability to send photos by email while using the software. The process formats the photo into a smaller file, usually JPEG, and attaches it to the email. This process works from the original photo without modifying it. (I would work with a copy of the photo just to be on the safe side.) Whatever method is used you should work with a copy of your photo, NOT the original, before attempting the process. Or even better backup your photos before doing any work on them. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dorey" <mikedorey@cwcom.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:29 AM Subject: [FO] STILL WEARING L PLATES. > I have made an error when putting an item into a scrapbook. Instead of > entering the photo at 100% I have doubled the size. Although It is fine > in on-screen viewing it is far to large and costly to send by E. Mail. > Is there a way I can reduce the memory size back to 100%, without having > to re-borrow the photograph and re-introduce it into the programme?. > Any assistance gratefully received. > Michael (chump) Dorey. > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >