In my Word 97 under File it says Print to PDF... but you have to have Adobe Writer installed to do it. Go to www.bluesquirrel.com and take a look at their PDF writer. It's only $18.95. http://www.bluesquirrel.com/so/specials.html#congress And while I'm at it: Does anybody have a problem with FO creating a report with an index in .rtf format and the index doesn't show up? Frank Henderson

Thanks, Charlie, for the info. I have filed it in my FO file for future reference. Margie In a message dated 07/28/2001 09:14:05 Pacific Daylight Time, charlieh@wt.net writes: > Margie, > > PDF files are compressed, so they are efficient for sending by email. > Also, it's easy to include graphics (with the right PDF generator). >

Woops!!! My sincere apologies, but I just posted a message on this list that should have gone to another one. My apologies to Alfred and all others concerned. Unfortunately, sometimes my fingers go faster on the keyboard than my brain does, and when you subscribe to 6 or 7 lists, you need to pay closer attention to how you address messages that you post. Again, my apologies. Talk about "off topic". . . . . . . . . . . <g> David <clip> MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann

Where will I be able to buy a copy of Version 10 ? Is Bruce taking orders ? Bill Chattanooga, TN borton@liveh2o.com From: Loretta Krumwiede Barlow <krumbar@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Version 10 > Never fear. It seems Bruce usually catches me two steps behind the crowd by > releasing new versions while I am in Illinois at my two family reunions. So, > if that holds true, look for it anytime after noon Friday. Heh. By the time > I get back Sunday evening, most of you will already have ordered it. > > Now watch Bruce hold off just to bedevil me. Or be nice to me? > > Loretta > > Krumwiede Family Website > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TBremersr@aol.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 9:51 AM > Subject: [FO] Version 10 > > > > I didn't want to be the first to mention VERSION 10, but, now that someone > > has (wink), are we all holding our breaths waiting for Bruce to ring the > > bell? This is WORSE than waiting for Santa to come at Christmas. > > > > Ted Bremer Sr > > TBremerSr@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Those of you who have not tried the later versions would likely be > > > very impressed with the later versions and all the nice features. > > > Version 10 should be out soon. > > > > > > Margaret Scheffler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Can anyone out there tell me if there is a place on the Internet to purchase BSA uniforms and other items. Our council's Scout Shop has an excellent store, but they are a long way off and in another state. Also, on a related subject, is there somewhere I can send for a Scouting catalog of such items? Thanks in advance for any help. David David E. Cann Wood Badge Eagle 82-48-16 Asst. District Commissioner, Aquia District National Capital Area Council E-mail: decann@infi.net

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [FO] PDF files > I was wondering if WordPerfect and Microsoft Word were picking up on the > fact that I had that driver installed as it was a surprise to me that the > capability to print to PDF was there. Anyway, they both produced PDF files > from the programs. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne League" <wleague@mindspring.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:06 AM > Subject: Re: [FO] PDF files > > > > "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> wrote: > > > > >Neither of the files I was printing to PDF were images, just text, but > > >I was not aware that both WordPerfect AND Microsoft Word would print > > >to a PDF file. > > > > If you have a PDF printer driver installed on your computer then it is > > quite likely that MSWord will notice that and provide a printer option > > in its own menu that will use that PDF writer. Such is the case on my > > own computer. But the PDF writer is not a part of and doesn't come > > with MSWord. > > I would guess it's probably the same with Word Perfect. > > > > Wayne League > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

I was wondering if WordPerfect and Microsoft Word were picking up on the fact that I had that driver installed as it was a surprise to me that the capability to print to PDF was there. Anyway, they both produced PDF files from the programs. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne League" <wleague@mindspring.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [FO] PDF files > "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> wrote: > > >Neither of the files I was printing to PDF were images, just text, but > >I was not aware that both WordPerfect AND Microsoft Word would print > >to a PDF file. > > If you have a PDF printer driver installed on your computer then it is > quite likely that MSWord will notice that and provide a printer option > in its own menu that will use that PDF writer. Such is the case on my > own computer. But the PDF writer is not a part of and doesn't come > with MSWord. > I would guess it's probably the same with Word Perfect. > > Wayne League > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hi Listers, What is the reason for printing to PDF files? Is this a better format for sending infomation via e-mail or did this discussion come about because someone wanted to upload files to a website? Thanks, Margie in Washington State

Margie, PDF files are compressed, so they are efficient for sending by email. Also, it's easy to include graphics (with the right PDF generator). But I use them for very efficient distribution of my genealogy books, which I put on my website available for downloading by my relatives. A PDF "book" with index enables cousins to download the entire book, and only print out the pages they are interested in. I used MS Word and WordPerfect files originally, but this involved generating two versions, and still I wasn't able to provide a version that was readable by everyone. Anyone can get the free PDF reader, even those "strange" cousins who use a Mac. <vbg> Beldin4@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Listers, > What is the reason for printing to PDF files? Is this a better format > for sending infomation via e-mail or did this discussion come about because > someone wanted to upload files to a website? > > Thanks, > Margie in Washington State > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

If you will go to this URL, you can download the run-time files for Java. After you install them, you can run any Java program on a Windows 95/98 machine. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/download-windows.html Incidentally, this is the URL for a date estimator that estimates dates in a Gedcom. It isn't all that good, but it works. http://home.no.net/gedcom/download.html Norma

I didn't want to be the first to mention VERSION 10, but, now that someone has (wink), are we all holding our breaths waiting for Bruce to ring the bell? This is WORSE than waiting for Santa to come at Christmas. Ted Bremer Sr TBremerSr@aol.com > > Those of you who have not tried the later versions would likely be > very impressed with the later versions and all the nice features. > Version 10 should be out soon. > > Margaret Scheffler > >

Ooooooh. I just tried gedliving. Have to say I like it much better than gedclean. However, if you want to exercise some control with people you know are living but for whom you have no date of birth, especially if their spouse is dead, you might want to use gedclean. With gedliving, the date of marriage will be shown if the living spouse does not have a birth date entered. With gedclean, you can tell the program to delete that information for that couple. Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne League" <wleague@mindspring.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [FO] "Hiding" Living people's birthdates > "Eugene Kluter" <cindygene@home.com> wrote: > > > Is there a way to print a book or pedigree chart and "hide" birth > >dates of living people? > > One way to do this would be to make a gedcom file of the people you > want in the book and then use a program like "gedliving"or "gedclean" > to remove the living birth dates from the gedcom file. Then you could > import the modified file to a new database in FO and create the book > from there. > > Gedliving can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/ged.html > > Gedclean can be found at http://www.raynorshyn.com/gedclean/ > > Wayne League > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Thompson" <kthomps7@columbus.rr.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [FO] PDF files > Thats true. I have Word 97 and have the option to print to PDF, but I > have the PDF print driver from the Adobe PhotoDeluxe (ver 3.0) that came > with my digital camera. You can purchase this program for about $50 > (much cheaper than the price of the full Adobe program <G>). I use this > option directly from FO for books that I want to send to others. It > then has all the photos, formating, etc that a printed version would > have. > > Keith Thompson Blue Squirrel of Draper UT. ( CLIK BOOK) sells a PDF Printer for about $19.00. It will from the WEB to PDF files.. Very handy... Doyle

Never fear. It seems Bruce usually catches me two steps behind the crowd by releasing new versions while I am in Illinois at my two family reunions. So, if that holds true, look for it anytime after noon Friday. Heh. By the time I get back Sunday evening, most of you will already have ordered it. Now watch Bruce hold off just to bedevil me. Or be nice to me? Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: <TBremersr@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [FO] Version 10 > I didn't want to be the first to mention VERSION 10, but, now that someone > has (wink), are we all holding our breaths waiting for Bruce to ring the > bell? This is WORSE than waiting for Santa to come at Christmas. > > Ted Bremer Sr > TBremerSr@aol.com > > > > > > > Those of you who have not tried the later versions would likely be > > very impressed with the later versions and all the nice features. > > Version 10 should be out soon. > > > > Margaret Scheffler > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Thats true. I have Word 97 and have the option to print to PDF, but I have the PDF print driver from the Adobe PhotoDeluxe (ver 3.0) that came with my digital camera. You can purchase this program for about $50 (much cheaper than the price of the full Adobe program <G>). I use this option directly from FO for books that I want to send to others. It then has all the photos, formating, etc that a printed version would have. Keith Thompson Wayne League wrote: > > "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> wrote: > > >Neither of the files I was printing to PDF were images, just text, but > >I was not aware that both WordPerfect AND Microsoft Word would print > >to a PDF file. > > If you have a PDF printer driver installed on your computer then it is > quite likely that MSWord will notice that and provide a printer option > in its own menu that will use that PDF writer. Such is the case on my > own computer. But the PDF writer is not a part of and doesn't come > with MSWord. > I would guess it's probably the same with Word Perfect. > > Wayne League > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Efax # (419) 818-1912 JFax & Voicemail (530) 484-3831

I may get thrown off the list for this but there's another way to do it. Download the free version of Legacy 3 at www.legacyfamilytree.com . It includes the PDF print driver. Just gedcom your data to Legacy and create the reports there and, then, select the PDF print option. If you print pictures, you'll have to reestablish links to them. I haven't found out how to keep the links in a gedcom transfer. Jim Winfrey

Actually, you are right about Word, but wrong about WordPerfect. WordPerfect 9 does include the ability to create a basic PDF file. word only provides that option if you have Acrobat (or at least PDF Writer) installed. Wayne League wrote: > > "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> wrote: > > >Neither of the files I was printing to PDF were images, just text, but > >I was not aware that both WordPerfect AND Microsoft Word would print > >to a PDF file. > > If you have a PDF printer driver installed on your computer then it is > quite likely that MSWord will notice that and provide a printer option > in its own menu that will use that PDF writer. Such is the case on my > own computer. But the PDF writer is not a part of and doesn't come > with MSWord. > I would guess it's probably the same with Word Perfect. > > Wayne League > -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

I have had the same problem. The program is a java program. But the run.bat is a dos command. I cannot get the javaw program to run. John S. Wilkinson mailto:jwilkins@twcny.rr.com http://home.twcny.rr.com/johnswilkinson/ -----Original Message----- From: Jack W. Ralph [mailto:nvjack@nvbell.net] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:33 PM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [FO] re: modified register descendants report (book type) I accidentally sent the following message to David instead of the entire list. Sorry about that. I need to keep my eye on that "reply to" box <bg> Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack W. Ralph" <nvjack@nvbell.net> To: "David W. Dorsey" <ddorsey@mindspring.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [FO] re: modified register descendants report (book type) > I downloaded the "Ancestor.zip" file and extracted it into my FOWin9 > folder. However, I cannot figure out how to use it. Can anyone give me > step by step instructions? It appears to be a DOS program without > documentation (and no "ReadMe.txt file). I must be getting old (and > senile). > > Jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David W. Dorsey" <ddorsey@mindspring.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [FO] re: modified register descendants report (book type) > > > > Mary Jean and James, > > > > You can find the utilities on the follow FormalSoft page: > > > > http://formalsoft.com/utilities.htm > > > > Good luck in your research! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Elting" <James.W.Elting@eltingweb.com> > > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:10 PM > > Subject: RE: [FO] re: modified register descendants report (book type) > > > > > > > There is a program designed by Rand Putnam called Ancestor Uplines > which > > > will read a FOW book in RTF format and will create the uplines (i.e. > the > > > James W. Elting > > > > > > Elting Family Genealogist > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary Jean Hall [mailto:maryjesse@newwave.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:44 PM > > > To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [FO] re: modified register descendants report (book type) > > > > > > ..................I found to my dismay that there was no lineage > > > associated with each of the people that are in the report. > > > Mary Jean Hall > > > maryjesse@newwave.net > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for > ordering information. > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

"Eugene Kluter" <cindygene@home.com> wrote: > Is there a way to print a book or pedigree chart and "hide" birth >dates of living people? One way to do this would be to make a gedcom file of the people you want in the book and then use a program like "gedliving"or "gedclean" to remove the living birth dates from the gedcom file. Then you could import the modified file to a new database in FO and create the book from there. Gedliving can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gumby/ged.html Gedclean can be found at http://www.raynorshyn.com/gedclean/ Wayne League

"Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> wrote: >Neither of the files I was printing to PDF were images, just text, but >I was not aware that both WordPerfect AND Microsoft Word would print >to a PDF file. If you have a PDF printer driver installed on your computer then it is quite likely that MSWord will notice that and provide a printer option in its own menu that will use that PDF writer. Such is the case on my own computer. But the PDF writer is not a part of and doesn't come with MSWord. I would guess it's probably the same with Word Perfect. Wayne League