I just received a message about ordering version 10 of FO from Genealogy.com prior to the release date ".....As a valued Family Origins user, you have the opportunity to order your Family Origins 10.0 upgrade now, weeks before the official launch date!..." Is this a way for Genealogy.com to make sales before Bruce releases its sale on his web site? Last year Bruce had several ordering options, some including the book. I'm assuming most of us want to order from Bruce's site rather than the big conglomerate. As I also recall from last year, Bruce charged less for the shipping, at least for those ordering from without the US. Margaret Scheffler

Genealogy.com is taking orders for ship about Aug. 10 @19.99 + S&H. Al

I am going to be gone from the homestead for about 3 weeks. Can't stay subscribed because I'm afraid my super Microsoft Explorer mail box will fill up (3 whole Meg). It appears that FO10 is imminent and I doubt being able to hold all the jubilation. I will unsubscribe tomorrow. Meanwhile, if FO10 becomes available, someone let me know about the 20th or 21st when I come back on Cheers Ron Mitchell

Just got word from Genealogy.com that they have the newest FO available. How long has it been available and can I get it from FormalSoft, Inc.? I don't like dealing with Genealogy.com any more than I have to. Carole in Portland

I just received a message that FO 10 is available. Does anyone (Bruce?) know if there has been any improvements made to the descendent reports? Rand ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

"Pat Conwell" <patconwell@home.com> wrote: >I created a custom report . . . . . . > >I thought it was great, until I realized the report did not give me >all the census dates for each person. > >My question: Why did FO pick up some census years and not others? > A custom report or even a search in FO will only pick up the first instance of any particular event even though an individual may have more than one. Alternately, you could use the fact usage list for census from the reports -> lists, or, if you want to show more info than that for each individual you could use the individual list from the same menu and select only people where the census place "contains" and leave the "search for" field blank. (That will select only the individuals where the census fact exists and then it will list all the information you choose in the list options). Multiple occurrences of events will be shown in both of these methods. Wayne League

does it only give one per person , and is the persons name listed once for each census year Pat Conwell wrote: > I created a custom report with the following fields: > > census date census place name, given birth date birth place > > I thought it was great, until I realized the report did not give me all the census dates for each person. > > My question: Why did FO pick up some census years and not others? > > Can anyone help me with this? Thanks very much. > > Pat in La Mesa > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > -- (o o) ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ Mary Stickney (IBSSG) - owner of 6 Rams and 1 ewe "Don't breed or buy , while thoes in rescue die" www.puppymillrescue.com www.nopuppymills.com www.saveastray.com www.IMOM.org/voices/ www.puppymillfighters.com MY HOMEPAGES: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ my mystery http://www.alltel.net/~ms81250/ Surnames: Yerington, Rogness, Wade, Ankles, Sorensen, Overbeck, Jensen, Duncan, Austin, Osborn, Goodall, Baldwin, Pearce, Suiter , Avery , Bill. Covey

I created a custom report with the following fields: census date census place name, given birth date birth place I thought it was great, until I realized the report did not give me all the census dates for each person. My question: Why did FO pick up some census years and not others? Can anyone help me with this? Thanks very much. Pat in La Mesa

As I said, folks, nothing ever happens until AFTER I leave for my family reunions, and my leaving time has been pushed up to 7 a.m. Friday. So at least be patient until the weekend, because most of the time, by the time I get back from reunion on Sunday evening, the new version is out and you guys are all way ahead of me. Siiiigh. Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Bryan" <c24m48@hotmail.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [FO] It's AUGUST > >OK, It's August now. Regarding FO10.............. > > > >Bruce, Bruce............. Wherefore art thou? > > Not to be pedantic or anything, but "wherefore" means "why" rather than > being an older form of "where". But it occurs to me, maybe that's what you > meant (grin). > > Jerry Bryan > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Wonder if FO10 will have a Fact for pedanticism ... <g> Al Jerry Bryan wrote: > > >OK, It's August now. Regarding FO10.............. > > > >Bruce, Bruce............. Wherefore art thou? > > Not to be pedantic or anything, but "wherefore" means "why" rather than > being an older form of "where". But it occurs to me, maybe that's what you > meant (grin). > > Jerry Bryan >

Maybe Bruce is gonna do the patch first <g> Al Derick wrote: > > At 03:22 PM 8/1/01, branagak wrote: > >I just joined the list after a few years of absence. A quick search of > >the archives did not reveal a release date for the next upgrade to > >Family Origins. Isn't it getting to be that time of year again? > > > >I anxiously await news of its availability . . . > > I can't think of another program that has a "scheduled" version release nor > can I recall any program whose release is so eagerly anticipated. >

>OK, It's August now. Regarding FO10.............. > >Bruce, Bruce............. Wherefore art thou? Not to be pedantic or anything, but "wherefore" means "why" rather than being an older form of "where". But it occurs to me, maybe that's what you meant (grin). Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

And, why is it that we are always anxiously awaiting the next release of Family Origins? Is it because the Family Origins that we are working with is inadequate? No, version 9.02 seems to be quite adequate. Is it because we just have to keep up with the "Joneses"? No, The "Joneses" will still mistakenly believe that their program is superior to Family Origins. (Only we, the regular users of Family Origins, know that they are wrong.) Is it because our social security check is burning a hole in our pockets? NO! even if it were, the upgrade price is so low that removing that much fuel from the pocketbook wouldn't make much difference. No! It is none of the above! It is because we are all children at heart and we just have to see what goodies "Uncle Bruce" has put in the box this time. "Did I get the feature that I asked for?" - "If I didn't, I hope Jonnie didn't get his either." I know I won't get mine, not that I have been bad, just that it is a little unreasonable to think a genealogy program could wash a full sized car. - Maybe, if I got a sub-compact? Alfred D Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/

At 03:22 PM 8/1/01, branagak wrote: >I just joined the list after a few years of absence. A quick search of >the archives did not reveal a release date for the next upgrade to >Family Origins. Isn't it getting to be that time of year again? > >I anxiously await news of its availability . . . I can't think of another program that has a "scheduled" version release nor can I recall any program whose release is so eagerly anticipated. --Derick

I just joined the list after a few years of absence. A quick search of the archives did not reveal a release date for the next upgrade to Family Origins. Isn't it getting to be that time of year again? I anxiously await news of its availability . . . Kim

LOL - The way we carry on, one would get the idea we're all excited or something - LOL. Thank you Alfred for the great chuckle today. I felt like I was in a church service with my head nodding up and down with happy explatives (sp?) coming out while reading it:o) What other software makes us feel this way? None I know of:o) Thanks also to Bruce who keeps us on the edge of our seats... awaiting the subject line "Version 10 is here"! Sue Cancio

OK, It's August now. Regarding FO10.............. Bruce, Bruce............. Wherefore art thou? Ted Bremer Sr

The Family Origins archives seem to be working and up to date again! I just checked, and there they were, right up through Wayne's reply to the source spacing and punctuation problem at 17:50:40 -0400 today http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users I haven't been checking every day, so I don't know exactly when it came back. The Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller

Correction - The first sentence should read "Record Number" Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Wells" <dwells@chisp.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Ref. No.'s > The field known as Reference Number does change. It is an internal database > record number. Each time a record added or database is Imported, the number > increment by 1. > > If you want a stable reference number, you must add your own. Use the > Reference Number Fact. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L & J Veenstra" <ljveen@sympatico.ca> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:42 PM > Subject: [FO] Ref. No.'s > > > > Can someone tell me if the computer generated Ref. No. changes? > > I use the Ref No. in Add Facts, to correspond with the computer Ref. #, > > plus I add a 3 letter code at the beginning to show what family they > > descend from: ex., John Smith-274 - my ref. SMI274, > > I was correcting some and noticed that all are different from what I had > > originally entered. Some are off by 2 or 3 numbers, while some are off > > by as much as 20, from the computer generated #'s. > > Am I going to have to change all my Ref # ? > > (I have not deleted any names that I can remember) > > Linda > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All > messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Now I see what's happening. In the source list in a report, FO is adding a period at the end of every source field. When that period falls near the right margin of the source list in a report, FO is wrapping only the period to the next line. Well, where the problem exists, you might shorten the overall source by maybe abbreviating a word somewhere to make the whole line shorter and thereby pull the wayward period back up to the first line. Or if you're prone to changing margins or fonts now and then, you might force the listed source into two or more lines by making the description and/or publisher fields in the source have two or more lines by inserting <enter>'s between words there. But Betty is saying that editing her sources is having no effect, and that is a different problem. You should always be able to edit your sources. Betty, I would try packing the database and if that doesn't fix the source editing problem I would drag and drop the entire database to a new database and hope that would solve that problem. Wayne League "P. SummersSmith" <summerspa@home.com> wrote: >As much as I really love FO, that one little thing has been irritating to >me for a long while now. You can twiddle-tweak a source spacing to get it >to print without an orphaned period on one report, but later, on some other >occasion when you may print another report or change the font or margins of >the report, it shows up again. So far, I haven't found any way to >completely eliminate the problem from reoccurring.