FAMILY ORIGINS VERSION 10 We are taking orders for the new Family Origins version 10. Our prices remain the same as for version 9. Family Origins v10 deluxe 29.00 pounds Family Origins v10 upgrade 19.00 pounds Prices include VAT and first class post to addresses in the UK. Prices include VAT and airmail delivery to EU countries. Prices include airmail delivery to other countries (excluding VAT). We expect to have stock here in the UK on or before 20th August 2001. Please visit our website for more information and a secure server for placing orders. http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk/fo.htm Trevor Rix TWR Computing Suppliers of Software and Computers for Family Historians Clapstile Farm, Alpheton, Sudbury, Suffolk CO10 9BN, United Kingdom phone/fax 01284 828271 international +44 1284 828271 sales@twrcomputing.co.uk support@twrcomputing.co.uk http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk

Have info on BLAKEs of Compton Dundon. Please reply off-List. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa ekbrits@sympatico.ca

Having just read the posting about the "alleged" new features for Ver 10, it would seem that Bruce has once again surpassed himself with improvements to Family Origins. The addition ("alleged") of being able to print to PDF shows that Bruce responds to what we talk about on this list (we already know that but it's good to be able to demonstrate it). I use a lot of different software (mostly non genealogy) but Family Origins is the only one that I always update. David

>I only want to order from Bruce not Genealogy.com > >Peggy Hooper Amen! Shipping charges are less, and even if it was more and I had to wait longer, I would prefer buying it directly from Bruce. I gave up on Parsons/Broderbund/Genealogy.com (or whatever their most recent name is) a long time ago when they abandoned us in favor of FTM. David <clip> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I've just received the same e-mail from Genealogy.com and checked their ordering procedure. I quickly discovered would cost me more than $40 to have the v10 update sent to Australia, because they only offer the DHL courier option. I really hope Bruce offers the same deal as in the past -- that is, he sells at the same price as Genealogy.com but allows a much better deal on postage. So I'm going to wait and order direct from the author!

Purchasing at the FamilyOrigins website redirects you to Genealogy.com. I will return it unopened if the package indicates it is version 9. I believe Genealogy.com has a 30-day money back guarantee. How did you order direct? Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@hotmail.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: RE: [FO] FWD: Pre-release Exclusive: Upgrade to Family Origins 10.0 > >I only want to order from Bruce not Genealogy.com > > > >Peggy Hooper > > > Amen! Shipping charges are less, and even if it was more and I had to wait > longer, I would prefer buying it directly from Bruce. I gave up on > Parsons/Broderbund/Genealogy.com (or whatever their most recent name is) a > long time ago when they abandoned us in favor of FTM. > > David > > > > <clip>

Elaine, If it works the same way as in the past the chances are that you'll get the most recent version. Version 10, that is. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <elainetm@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO 10 > I don't even have the box program yet and a new version is already out. > Does anyone know which version I will be receiving per my order of last > week? > > Elaine

I don't even have the box program yet and a new version is already out. Does anyone know which version I will be receiving per my order of last week? Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Orton" <borton@liveh2o.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: [FO] FO 10 > I just got off the phone with Bruce and he said that he will be taking > orders for FO 10 tomorrow Aug 4, 2001. He was on his mobile cell phone and > will be back in the office tomorrow. He said that he will send us an e-mail > on FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com tomorrow. > > Bill Orton > Chattanooga, TN > borton@liveh2o.com

Try Bruce's site at http://formalsoft.com but it's not up there yet. I believe I saw a note earlier that he's still on the road. Bob Stimmel Downey, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <elainetm@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [FO] FWD: Pre-release Exclusive: Upgrade to Family Origins 10.0 > Purchasing at the FamilyOrigins website redirects you to Genealogy.com. > > I will return it unopened if the package indicates it is version 9. I > believe Genealogy.com has a 30-day money back guarantee. > > How did you order direct? > > Elaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David E. Cann" <decann@hotmail.com> > To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:45 PM > Subject: RE: [FO] FWD: Pre-release Exclusive: Upgrade to Family Origins 10.0 > > > > >I only want to order from Bruce not Genealogy.com > > > > > >Peggy Hooper > > > > > > Amen! Shipping charges are less, and even if it was more and I had to > wait > > longer, I would prefer buying it directly from Bruce. I gave up on > > Parsons/Broderbund/Genealogy.com (or whatever their most recent name is) a > > long time ago when they abandoned us in favor of FTM. > > > > David > > > > > > > > <clip> > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Recent items on the list indicate that neither Bruce nor anyone else in the know is saying when FO10 will be released nor what improvements it will contain, but I have received an unsolicited email from Specials@Genealogy.com offering to take orders for FO10 and describing some of its contents. Is there something which we on the east side of the Big Pond don't know about Enlightment will be appreciated Alan

EXCLUSIVE FAMILY ORIGINS VERSION 10.0 PREVIEW * Research, preserve and share your unique family heritage * Save yourself time and effort, with brand-new and improved features such as Family Journal publishing, PDF-printing, and ability to link multiple individuals * Order your Version 10.0 upgrade today: http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-upgrade Dear Family Origins Researcher, As a valued Family Origins user, you have the opportunity to order your Family Origins 10.0 upgrade now, weeks before the official launch date! With Family Origins 10.0, you get many new and improved tools to help further your family history research. Now preserving and sharing your discoveries is easier than ever. Click the link below to order the Family Origins 10.0 upgrade for just $19.99 plus shipping (and tax if applicable): http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-upgrade Or, call 1-800-548-1806 to order by phone 24 hours a day. Please mention "priority code 8080108" to confirm your exclusive Version 10.0 order. Your Family Origins upgrade will ship on approximately August 20, 2001. UPGRADE TO THESE NEW & IMPROVED FAMILY ORIGINS 10.0 FEATURES FAMILY JOURNAL NEW! Easily share your family history with others. Now it's simple to publish your reports and charts together in one comprehensive document, complete with an index and bibliography. LINK SOURCES TO MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS NEW! Link sources to multiple individuals at the same time. Tying a record reference to associated family members lets you track your research quickly. PRINT TO PDF NEW! Print your ancestor and descendant charts in PDF format and preserve them exactly as you've envisioned. Sharing these charts with family members and sending them for professional printing has never been easier. CUSTOMIZE YOUR TOOLBAR NEW! Save time by customizing your toolbar with the buttons you use most often. Effortlessly add, move, remove, or reset your favorite buttons. ACCESS MOST RECENT FILES NEW! Another great time saver. Access your most recent database in one easy step. Your family history is just a click away. OPEN AND WORK IN MULTIPLE DATABASES: IMPROVED! Transfer individuals exactly where you want them. Simply drag and drop information from one file to another. TEMPLEREADY SUPPORT IMPROVED! Easily update your data after submitting it to the Temple. Your files will be fully compatible with TempleReady for Windows, so you can automatically update them. ************************************************************* UPGRADE TODAY! Here are two easy ways to purchase or get more information: 1. Visit http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-upgrade <A title=http://www.Genealogy.com/ href="http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-upgrade">AOL users click here</A> 2. Call 1-800-548-1806 and mention "priority code 8080108" ************************************************************* Your Family Origins upgrade will ship on approximately August 20, 2001. You can get a full refund of the purchase price within 30 days of purchase (excluding shipping) if you are not 100% satisfied with your Family Origins Version 10.0 upgrade! We look forward to assisting you. Sincerely, Rob Armstrong General Manager, Genealogy.com P.S. Take advantage of this exclusive opportunity to order your upgrade to the brand-new Family Origins Version 10.0 today -- just $19.99. Click here for more information: http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-upgrade SHIPPING/HANDLING: All orders sent to addresses in the U.S. and Canada will include $7.00 shipping and handling for the first item, and $1.00 for each additional item. (All prices are in U.S. dollars.) DHL delivery is available for $40 for all destinations outside the U.S. and Canada. Additional customs duties and taxes may be levied locally for deliveries outside the U.S. SALES TAX: Your total will include local sales tax if your order will be sent to Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, New York, Tennessee, Utah, or Washington. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: Windows CD-ROM* Windows 95/98 486 or higher IBM PC or compatible 8MB Ram Minimum 8MB hard-disk space; full install 40 MB 2X CD-ROM drive or faster 640x480 display, 256 colors Printer support: Works with most popular printers (monochrome and color) supported by Windows. Modem (minimum 28.8 kbps) and Internet Service Provider account required for Web site creation, FamilyFinder Report searches, online support functionality and other features**. *System Configuration: May require minor adjustments to the configuration of your operating system and/or updates to the hardware component drivers. **User is responsible for all Internet access fees and phone charges. ************************************************************ (c) Copyright 2001 Genealogy.com, LLC. All rights reserved. Family Origins and FamilyFinder are registered trademarks of Genealogy.com, LLC. All other product names are the trademarks of their respective holders. ************************************************************ Please do not reply to this message, as the mailbox is not monitored. 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I just got off the phone with Bruce and he said that he will be taking orders for FO 10 tomorrow Aug 4, 2001. He was on his mobile cell phone and will be back in the office tomorrow. He said that he will send us an e-mail on FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com tomorrow. Bill Orton Chattanooga, TN borton@liveh2o.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Kruszka <AnneKruszka@netscape.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: [FO] FO 10 > Has anyone besides my friend Karen gotten an offer from Genealogy.com for FO 10.0???? > -- > "Remember me in the family tree > My name, my days, my strife > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

> >===== Original Message From Specials@Genealogy.com ===== >EXCLUSIVE FAMILY ORIGINS VERSION 10.0 PREVIEW > >* Research, preserve and share your unique family heritage >* Save yourself time and effort, with brand-new and improved features >such as Family Journal publishing, PDF-printing, and ability to link >multiple individuals >* Order your Version 10.0 upgrade today: > http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10 > > >Dear Family Origins Researcher, > >As a valued Family Origins user, you have the opportunity to >order your Family Origins 10.0 upgrade now, weeks before the >official launch date! > >With Family Origins 10.0, you get many new and improved tools >to help further your family history research. Now preserving >and sharing your discoveries is easier than ever. > >Click the link below to order the Family Origins 10.0 upgrade >for just $19.99 plus shipping (and tax if applicable): > http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10 > >Or, call 1-800-548-1806 to order by phone 24 hours a day. >Please mention "priority code 8080106" to confirm your exclusive >Version 10.0 order. Your Family Origins upgrade will ship >on approximately August 20, 2001. > > >UPGRADE TO THESE NEW & IMPROVED FAMILY ORIGINS 10.0 FEATURES > >FAMILY JOURNAL >NEW! Easily share your family history with others. Now it's >simple to publish your reports and charts together in one >comprehensive document, complete with an index and bibliography. > >LINK SOURCES TO MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS >NEW! Link sources to multiple individuals at the same time. >Tying a record reference to associated family members lets >you track your research quickly. > >PRINT TO PDF >NEW! Print your ancestor and descendant charts in PDF format >and preserve them exactly as you've envisioned. Sharing these >charts with family members and sending them for professional >printing has never been easier. > >CUSTOMIZE YOUR TOOLBAR >NEW! Save time by customizing your toolbar with the buttons >you use most often. Effortlessly add, move, remove, or reset >your favorite buttons. > >ACCESS MOST RECENT FILES >NEW! Another great time saver. Access your most recent database >in one easy step. Your family history is just a click away. > >OPEN AND WORK IN MULTIPLE DATABASES: >IMPROVED! Transfer individuals exactly where you want them. >Simply drag and drop information from one file to another. > >TEMPLEREADY SUPPORT >IMPROVED! Easily update your data after submitting it to >the Temple. Your files will be fully compatible with >TempleReady for Windows, so you can automatically update them. > > >************************************************************* > >UPGRADE TODAY! > >Here are two easy ways to purchase or get more information: >1. Visit http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10 ><A title=http://www.Genealogy.com/ >href="http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10">AOL users click here</A> > >2. Call 1-800-548-1806 and mention "priority code 8080106" > >************************************************************* > >Your Family Origins upgrade will ship on approximately >August 20, 2001. You can get a full refund of the purchase >price within 30 days of purchase (excluding shipping) if >you are not 100% satisfied with your Family Origins Version >10.0 upgrade! > >We look forward to assisting you. > >Sincerely, > >Rob Armstrong >General Manager, Genealogy.com > >P.S. Take advantage of this exclusive opportunity to order >your upgrade to the brand-new Family Origins Version 10.0 >today -- just $19.99. Click here for more information: > http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10 > > >SHIPPING/HANDLING: All orders sent to addresses in the >U.S. and Canada will include $7.00 shipping and handling >for the first item, and $1.00 for each additional item. >(All prices are in U.S. dollars.) DHL delivery is >available for $40 for all destinations outside the U.S. >and Canada. Additional customs duties and taxes may be >levied locally for deliveries outside the U.S. > >SALES TAX: Your total will include local sales tax if your >order will be sent to Arizona, California, Colorado, >Connecticut, Illinois, New York, Tennessee, Utah, or >Washington. > >SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: >Windows CD-ROM* >Windows 95/98 >486 or higher IBM PC or compatible >8MB Ram >Minimum 8MB hard-disk space; full install 40 MB >2X CD-ROM drive or faster >640x480 display, 256 colors >Printer support: Works with most popular printers >(monochrome and color) supported by Windows. >Modem (minimum 28.8 kbps) and Internet Service Provider >account required for Web site creation, FamilyFinder Report >searches, online support functionality and other features**. > >*System Configuration: May require minor adjustments to the >configuration of your operating system and/or updates to the >hardware component drivers. > >**User is responsible for all Internet access fees and phone charges. > > >************************************************************ >(c) Copyright 2001 Genealogy.com, LLC. All rights reserved. >Family Origins and FamilyFinder are registered trademarks >of Genealogy.com, LLC. All other product names are the >trademarks of their respective holders. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Thank you Mary and Wayne for your replies. I tried Wayne's suggestions. I didn't know the "one-occurrence" fact about a custom report. That's a bit limiting, in my view, but what the hay. I did, Wayne, go into the Individual List and create reports as you suggested. Although the output is not in the manner I would have hoped, as I really did like the custom report layout I had created, it does help me review my information and make potential data gathering easier. Thanks for the very clear directions. I always learn something from this group. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne League" <wleague@mindspring.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Custom Reports > "Pat Conwell" <patconwell@home.com> wrote: > > >I created a custom report . . . . . . > > > >I thought it was great, until I realized the report did not give me > >all the census dates for each person. > > > >My question: Why did FO pick up some census years and not others? > > > A custom report or even a search in FO will only pick up the first > instance of any particular event even though an individual may have > more than one. > > Alternately, you could use the fact usage list for census from the > reports -> lists, or, if you want to show more info than that for each > individual you could use the individual list from the same menu and > select only people where the census place "contains" and leave the > "search for" field blank. (That will select only the individuals > where the census fact exists and then it will list all the information > you choose in the list options). > Multiple occurrences of events will be shown in both of these methods. > > Wayne League >

I only want to order from Bruce not Genealogy.com Peggy Hooper My home page http://www.myroots.net/ mailto:hooperhous@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Bryan [mailto:c24m48@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:52 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] FWD: Pre-release Exclusive: Upgrade to Family Origins 10.0 > >===== Original Message From Specials@Genealogy.com ===== >EXCLUSIVE FAMILY ORIGINS VERSION 10.0 PREVIEW > >* Research, preserve and share your unique family heritage >* Save yourself time and effort, with brand-new and improved features >such as Family Journal publishing, PDF-printing, and ability to link >multiple individuals >* Order your Version 10.0 upgrade today: > http://www.Genealogy.com/famo-version10 > >

We don't know anything more than you do at this point, Alan. Bruce is contractually bound not to say anythng prior to release and I got the same email that you did. -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Kennerley" <alankennerley@willowmoor.freeserve.co.uk> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:49 AM Subject: [FO] I am puzzled > Recent items on the list indicate that neither Bruce nor anyone else in the > know is saying when FO10 will be released nor what improvements it will > contain, but I have received an unsolicited email from > Specials@Genealogy.com offering to take orders for FO10 and describing some > of its contents. > Is there something which we on the east side of the Big Pond don't know > about > Enlightment will be appreciated > Alan > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

I don't know if you all realize this or not, but when Bruce sells the Family Origins program he has to act just like any other reseller of the product. That is, he has to order the FO CD's wholesale from genealogy.com, pay for them himself, and then sell them to us. So, logically, I would expect to see them available from genealogy.com a little ahead of Bruce. For you folks in Australia, you probably remember that TLC was charging about $35 US just for shipping the FO CD to Australia a year or two ago. Right now on Bruce's web site at http://formalsoft.com/orders.htm he is charging only $5 US to ship the FO9 CD to Australia or the Pacific Rim or to Europe. That's the same as it costs us here in the US. I would guess FO10 will be similar, but I don't know for sure. And, of course, Bruce cannot discuss these things publicly because of ethical and/or contractual considerations. Wayne League "MScheffler" <figaro@dreamscape.com> wrote: > Is this a way for Genealogy.com to make sales before Bruce releases >its sale on his web site? Last year Bruce had several ordering >options, some including the book. I'm assuming most of us want to order >from Bruce's site rather than the big conglomerate. As I also recall >from last year, Bruce charged less for the shipping, at least for those >ordering from without the US.

Al Turner wrote: > Genealogy.com is taking orders for ship about Aug. 10 @19.99 + S&H. ================ Al, Thanks for the information, but personally I would prefer to wait longer and even pay more if it were necessary, and buy directly from Bruce at formalsoft.com. If you strangle the golden goose there are no more golden eggs in August, wheather it be on August 1st, or on August 31st. Jim

Has anyone besides my friend Karen gotten an offer from Genealogy.com for FO 10.0???? -- "Remember me in the family tree My name, my days, my strife __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Correction. Should be about Aug. 20. My finger slipped when I got excited reading about PDF capabilities. Al Al Turner wrote: > > Genealogy.com is taking orders for ship about Aug. 10 @19.99 + S&H. > > Al