I don't know who sold you version 9 now, because version 10 can now be ordered and costs the same price. My suggestion to you would be to get a refund and order version 10 at the same price, but that is up to you. To answer your question about installation, though, I have always simply installed over the previous version, and have never had any problems at all. Easy as pie. That being said, however, if you value your genealogy half as much as I do, MAKE SURE you have recoverable backup copies ON DISKETTE OR OTHERWISE OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMPUTER before you install, because it is always possible for something to go wrong, no matter what software you are using. Good luck. Please contact me privately if you have any other questions. David E. Cann Home e-mail: decann@infi.net >From: "Donalee V (Collier) Dietrich" <dietricd@fyi.net> >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [FO] How is the best way to install Version 9 >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:45:41 -0400 > >I just received my copy of Version 9 of Family Origins. I'm afraid to >install it for fear of loosing data. I do backups regularly. What is the >best way to install it. I have Version 8 right now. >Do I delete Version 8 or will Version 9 go right over Version 8? >Thanks for your help. >Donna in PA > <clip> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

If I'm not mistaken, I believe I went to the Edit menu, rearrange > spouse and clicked. I'm of course presuming that you do this while the main person is highlighted:o) Sue Cancio At 04:36 PM 8/13/2001 -0600, Tom Rennebaum wrote: >I was not careful entering multiple marriages in the order that they >occurred. Didn't realize how important this was until I generated a >"descendant" report. What I got was the marriages in order of how they were >entered, regardless of date. Is there an *easy* way to swap the order of the >marriages, or do I have to delete and then re-enter the marriages in the >correct order? >Thank you, >Tom

I just received my copy of Version 9 of Family Origins. I'm afraid to install it for fear of loosing data. I do backups regularly. What is the best way to install it. I have Version 8 right now. Do I delete Version 8 or will Version 9 go right over Version 8? Thanks for your help. Donna in PA

There is nothing to fear, Donalee, so long as you have known good backups. Known good means that you have restored the backup to a new, empty database and verified that the data is OK. I generally uninstall the old version before installing the new one but I don't think it makes any difference. Whichever you do, it WILL NOT affect your database in any way. Paul >===== Original Message From "Donalee V (Collier) Dietrich" <dietricd@fyi.net> ===== >I just received my copy of Version 9 of Family Origins. I'm afraid to >install it for fear of loosing data. I do backups regularly. What is the >best way to install it. I have Version 8 right now. >Do I delete Version 8 or will Version 9 go right over Version 8? >Thanks for your help. >Donna in PA > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html >basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library Take Care -- Paul

In a message dated 8/12/2001 9:42:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time, NCerasuolo@aol.com writes: > Thanks, Bruce. This is a FANTASTIC addition to the program. I can hardly > wait > to get my hands on it. > > Can the journal be exported to .rtf ? > Yes... sort of. It can't export the graphic pages (like pedigree charts or box charts). But you can export the entire thing to a PDF (Acrobat) file. - Bruce http://formalsoft.com - Family Origins genealogy software http://family-reunion.com - Plan the perfect family reunion

Here is a Wish List item for the future version(s) of FOW. When creating Family Group Sheets for an individual, who has had multiple spouses, the ability to create sheets for each pairing as a single report request. I know this can be accomplished by selecting Multiple Families, and selecting each one individually, but a simple option would save much work and eliminate oversites when some spouses are missed. Dick

We have had a discussion or two recently on this list about various place finders, including the one that comes with FO Deluxe, but is anyone out there aware of one that includes locations through the years for townships? I several of them, depending on what it is I am looking for, and use the one that Bruce furnishes with FO Deluxe the most, but I have yet to find one that accurately locates the various townships. I would be very grateful to anyone who can point me in the right direction. David MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net HOME PAGES Family: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann Genealogy: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann/genealogy I'm a RootsWeb Sponsor. Ask me how you can be one, too. Researching Bradford, Brewer, Cann, Cashatt, Ewing, Fitch, Linson, Markley, Merkle, Oliver, Redkey, Schottler, Shockey, Vance and Wynne surnames and any others related by birth, marriage or adoption.

Isn't that already available as a user defined fact? -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com *************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earnie Breeding" <firefighter635@ga.prestige.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: [FO] Wish list for ver 11 Bruce; Always looking ahead, would like to propose a new feature for 2002. IN the Book report, allow for inclusion of the married name for women as well as their maiden name. Would be best as a separate entry. Many of the women in my 12,000 + database are known to me by their married names, but I keep their records by their maiden name. Earnie R. Breeding ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Bruce; Always looking ahead, would like to propose a new feature for 2002. IN the Book report, allow for inclusion of the married name for women as well as their maiden name. Would be best as a separate entry. Many of the women in my 12,000 + database are known to me by their married names, but I keep their records by their maiden name. Earnie R. Breeding

At 11:14 AM 8/12/01, AEParshall@aol.com wrote: >Derrick -- > >I do something similar for the same purpose, but not trusting myself not to >foul up the name, I drop my "x" in the "title" field. If I'm interrupted >before cleaning up the entry, no real harm done. That won't pull the two >entries together alphabetically the way your tip does, but it makes the right >entries instantly recognizable as I page rapidly through the possibilities >and it saves me from the idiot things I sometimes do to my database. <g> > >Ardis I might add, when I am satisfied that these are the same individual, I use the edit feature in the "merge to" box and take the 'x' out. --Derick

I apparently failed to save the recent messages on creating a book index once one has saved a "book" in rtf file format and opened it in Word. I know someone who is trying out the version 8 demo to see how this feature works. Could someone please send some easy to follow instructions for creating the book index for someone new to Family Origins. Thanks for any help. Margaret Scheffler

Thanks, Bruce. This is a FANTASTIC addition to the program. I can hardly wait to get my hands on it. Can the journal be exported to .rtf ? Nat

Derrick -- I do something similar for the same purpose, but not trusting myself not to foul up the name, I drop my "x" in the "title" field. If I'm interrupted before cleaning up the entry, no real harm done. That won't pull the two entries together alphabetically the way your tip does, but it makes the right entries instantly recognizable as I page rapidly through the possibilities and it saves me from the idiot things I sometimes do to my database. <g> Ardis

I've been merging individuals since the feature was first introduced. One problem that has always seemed to plague me is which of the myriad of persons with the same name do I merge without proceeding to page through as many as 20 or more? John Cline, is a case in point. If a female has two John Clines listed, I select the first one and change his name to xCLINE, and do the same to the second John Cline. This makes the merge a lot easier. --Derick

It is more a function of the word processor that you are using than it is of Family Origins. With MS Word 6 and Word 2000, (so I suppose everything in between) after you have opened the RTF book in Word, go to the end, just below the word "INDEX" and then go to the "Insert" menu, select "Index/Toc" then follow the prompts to finish up. I suppose other word processors have something quite similar, but named a bit differently. Alfred ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <figaro@dreamscape.com> > I apparently failed to save the recent messages on creating a book > index once one has saved a "book" in rtf file format and opened it in > Word. >

In a message dated 8/12/2001 8:43:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time, NCerasuolo@aol.com writes: > One more question came to mind. Can we combine multiple people who are not > You can print reports for any people in your database, whether they are related or not. This does not mean they will appear in the same report (ie modified register), but will appear in separate reports (chapters?) which share a common index and source bibliography. - Bruce http://formalsoft.com - Family Origins genealogy software http://family-reunion.com - Plan the perfect family reunion

Thank you for the quick reply. One more question came to mind. Can we combine multiple people who are not descended from the same person in a 'single' journal report? Nat

In a message dated 8/12/2001 6:54:46 AM Mountain Daylight Time, NCerasuolo@aol.com writes: > If the beta testers are allowed to speak now, would you tell us if the > journal report will allow reports for multiple selected persons in one > printing or will it combine reports, charts, etc., on a 'single focus' > person > per printing? > It will allow reports for multiple people. - Bruce http://formalsoft.com - Family Origins genealogy software http://family-reunion.com - Plan the perfect family reunion

If the beta testers are allowed to speak now, would you tell us if the journal report will allow reports for multiple selected persons in one printing or will it combine reports, charts, etc., on a 'single focus' person per printing? Nat

My usual pattern with any program I am upgrading is to purchase as soon as available and then read the relevant mail list or bulletin board for a month or so before installing. In my case, I do the data entry on several databases and websites, and I am trying to avoid downtime by watching for any problems that might affect me from other users' experiences. I do keep backups (and gedcoms in the case of genealogy programs) and I also try to upgrade on a weekend when I've had plenty of sleep and a couple quiet hours set aside just in case there are any problems to work out. Linda On Fri, 10 August 2001, "Jerry Bryan" wrote: > > I upgraded to version 9 after 9.02 was available. Therefore, I am not too > sure what the problems were with the 9.00 base, but I certainly didn't > encounter them because I waited. > > What's the conventional wisdom, get 10.0 now, or wait for the 10.x patch? > > Jerry Bryan > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com _________________________________________________________________ iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web http://www.ivillage.com