If I may add my wish to this? I would like the option to include all photos in all reports, if I want. For instance, under the burial fact, i include a photo of the grave stone, if I have it. When creating a descendent book, even with include photo's checked, this photo is not included. I would like to be able to include it when creating/printing the book. Alfred Eller wrote: > > Am I missing something in this thread? > > What kind of report do you want the "Include Photos" option added to? It is > already on the box charts and the hourglass tree charts, in the Books and a > few other places. > > You know, This is a family oriented list, -- John Chapman "Fact gets in the way of truth!"... Cervantes Home Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnjay/

I believe many of us use some kind of symbol either after the surname, before the surname or after or before the given name. These are easily seen in the list of children when going "backwards". And if you send a report to someone, they can also easily see your line. Myself, i use a ^ after the given name. This way, the surnames all still sort with the given names in alphabetical order. If I put the ^ before or after the surname, the explore list will sort with all the Surname^ or ^Surname at the top of the list, which if I do a search on a particular person will mean they won't show up in the usual place with everyone else of that surname. Same reason for not putting the ^ before the given name. They will sort at the first of the alphabetical listing of given names for that particular surname. -- Janelle Holmes Wildair Kennels Dripping Springs, TX

Bruce, it wasn't mentioned in the features of Ver. 10 on the "other" website or on the formalsoft one, but did you ever incorporate an Undo feature on the Merge window? I know many of us would like to see this feature, since we sometimes get a little too Merge happy when we are doing a great number of merges and once you hit the Merge button you are sunk. -- Janelle Holmes Wildair Kennels Dripping Springs, TX

I do a similar thing in that I first choose "look for duplicates" and check every box on the "search criteria" screen, setting the date to zero. After it finishes it's search, I just close the window. Then I run a "duplicates" list. It will have a few more people than "Smart Merge" will merge on it's own, but not many. Norma

Good advice from Dick Wells below. Except that I must say that updates need to be far more often than once a month. Norton AntiVirus has new updates available once per week, usually on Wednesday and if some particularly dangerous has appeared, they issue updates as soon as possible. Other programs also make frequent updates available when the nasties appear. The Sircam and Badtrans viruses went around the world in just a few days. I received several messages with Badtrans which were stopped because I update frequently. Since there are so many new ones appearing now, I along with many others, now look for updates EVERY DAY before going to the email or to the web. It takes such a short time to check that I cannot find a good excuse for not doing it. If an update is available, then it will take a little more time but that provides protection. I do not want to use any more space on this list for this topic. A good place to learn more is: VIRUS-DISCUSSION-L@rootsweb.com Clark Rogers At 06:50 AM 8/15/2001, Dick Wells wrote: >The below message is very typical of most computer users who are afraid of >getting a virus. > >Without meaning to sound like I am bashing these people, I want to set some >facts straight. > >You cannot get a virus by looking at, or saving an attachment. You get the >virus by executing the attachment. The only exceptions to the looking at >are files for Microsoft's Word or Excel. They may contain Macros which are >small executable programs that are executed when opening the files. > >Anti-Virus software has two basic modes of operation. First, the scanning >capability of your system, either on demand or automatically at a preset >time. Secondly, the full time scan for each file opened or saved. Some >newer products also scan E-Mail upon arrival. > >Anti-Virus software uses a "signature file" which must be updated at least >monthly to be of any use. If not kept up to date, why bother checking your >system. Initially, when you install the program, the signatures are very >old. Update immediately. Updates are usually included for some period of >time before a fee is required. > >Take the time to learn about your computer, the software, and virus's. >Education is the most important weapon against them and your best tool to >prevent getting a virus. > >Know what you are saving on your computer and where it came from. Unexpected >files, even from a trusted friend, can be suspect. Set you trust levels by >how educated each individual is about their computers and content, then cut >it in half. When in doubt, scan it first. > >There is no reason to be afraid of attachments. They are a powerful tool >which many people use for transporting information. Much of this >information cannot be easily transported without sending media through the >mail as an alternative. Keep in mind, a virus can come from any source - >floppys, CD's, or electronically. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Forrest B. Cheuvront Jr." <cheuvront@juno.com> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:54 AM >Subject: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V01 #254 > > > > With all of the virus worms about, I do not open any attachments. > > If this is the only way for receipt of "Users" information, I'll need > > assurances the attachments are virus free. > > Forrest Cheuvront. > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > The Genealogical Companion >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > > Browsable Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm >Browsable Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hello Dedicated FO Users... I just subscribed to this list again....because of the Ver. 10 announcement from Genealogy.com. I have just finished reading the archived messages (thank goodness for that feature) and see that other people feel like I do. Thank you to all who posted their feelings about waiting...I now know that I'm not the only person that feels that way. I would much rather wait and order from Bruce than from anyone else and anxiously await a message as to when he will be taking orders. Shirley (FO user since Ver. 1) Gig Harbor, WA

Original message from: "Alfred Eller" >Am I missing something in this thread? > >What kind of report do you want the "Include Photos" option added to? It is >already on the box charts and the hourglass tree charts, in the Books and a >few other places. > >You know, This is a family oriented list, >you could get kicked off for using dirty >words like "MAC" <};-) > >Alfred >========== What I meant but did not say very clearly, was I'd like the ability to show the siblings of everybody in an ancestor wall chart. It would be great if this were as simple as checking a box to add photos or birth, death and marriage information already is. Of course it would no longer be an ancestor chart in the true sense of the word, but it would be a great way to flesh out a family that non genealogist types could understand with ease. Tony Grisolia

You're losing the citations for the sources. The simplest way to fix it is with a word processor. For Microsoft word six, I would choose to "find and replace". then type in the "find" box, "3 DATA^p4 TEXT" (without the quotes). In the "replace with" box, I would type: "3 PAGE". Then tell it to replace all. There are a good many other things FTW does not do in a standard way that make it a pain! Norma

The script kiddies have made your assurances obsolete. Depending on your e-mail program and level of security patches, you can get a worm/virus by simply checking the box for showing the body of an e-mail in the preview screen. Some of the new little devils are 2 or 3 stage. You pick up one part simply by having an unread e-mail in your in-box, then you get another part from infected websites, and so on. The script kiddies have gotten quite creative. I wish they would use all that know-how and imagination to fix the bugs in Windows! Norma

With all of the virus worms about, I do not open any attachments. If this is the only way for receipt of "Users" information, I'll need assurances the attachments are virus free. Forrest Cheuvront.

The below message is very typical of most computer users who are afraid of getting a virus. Without meaning to sound like I am bashing these people, I want to set some facts straight. You cannot get a virus by looking at, or saving an attachment. You get the virus by executing the attachment. The only exceptions to the looking at are files for Microsoft's Word or Excel. They may contain Macros which are small executable programs that are executed when opening the files. Anti-Virus software has two basic modes of operation. First, the scanning capability of your system, either on demand or automatically at a preset time. Secondly, the full time scan for each file opened or saved. Some newer products also scan E-Mail upon arrival. Anti-Virus software uses a "signature file" which must be updated at least monthly to be of any use. If not kept up to date, why bother checking your system. Initially, when you install the program, the signatures are very old. Update immediately. Updates are usually included for some period of time before a fee is required. Take the time to learn about your computer, the software, and virus's. Education is the most important weapon against them and your best tool to prevent getting a virus. Know what you are saving on your computer and where it came from. Unexpected files, even from a trusted friend, can be suspect. Set you trust levels by how educated each individual is about their computers and content, then cut it in half. When in doubt, scan it first. There is no reason to be afraid of attachments. They are a powerful tool which many people use for transporting information. Much of this information cannot be easily transported without sending media through the mail as an alternative. Keep in mind, a virus can come from any source - floppys, CD's, or electronically. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Forrest B. Cheuvront Jr." <cheuvront@juno.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V01 #254 > With all of the virus worms about, I do not open any attachments. > If this is the only way for receipt of "Users" information, I'll need > assurances the attachments are virus free. > Forrest Cheuvront. > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

That would be handy. I solved my problem long ago by adding (1st great, 2nd great, etc) in the Title (suffix) field. I have never had much to put in that particular field so it does not present a problem for me and I always know the way back. Peggy Hooper My home page http://www.myroots.net/ mailto:hooperhous@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Norma Thompson [mailto:nthmpsn@concentric.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:44 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] Software Development Cycle That's what I call an "Easter egg" in my pedigree. It isn't linear, it loops out one way to get to me, and also loops out another. I've always wished for something like you are asking for, only in reverse. When I am on the family screen and clicking to go to the parent several times, I wish "C+" was like HTML and would leave me a highlighted trail. I usually can't remember the exact path back to the person on whom I was working before I had to look at some ancestor for some reason. Norma ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

The LST file is the GEDCOM error file created during Import. This is a plain textfile. Use any simple editor such as NotePad or WordPad to view. Your copy of Windows has had the LST suffix associated with another program, Armsetup.exe. Normally, the LST suffix is not associated with any program. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Miners" <JenMin@bigpond.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: [FO] GEDCOM opening > I have received a GEDCOM file which I have put in a empty data base, so far so good it is from Family Tree Maker, in my Documents (where I saved the GEDCOM to) I now have a LST file of 19 kb, which I can't open, I am using windows 98, F.O. Ver 9,2, when I click on the file I get a window with cannot find Armsetup EXE. > Ideas please. Cheers Jenny > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Since we're doing the annual wish list, I'll add mine again (maybe it will be a bit higher on the list this year.) Following ancestral lines in the pedigree is easy, you just click on the right arrows until you get to the end of the chosen line. Following the path back down, however, is a bit more complex since there can be multiple lines from a given ancestor. Right now, the only way to know that there is more than one line is to right click and look at the 'View relatives' option at each step - a very cumbersome method. Rather than showing just one child in the leftmost position of the pedigree, I would like for the on-screen pedigree chart to show a listing of all of the children and I would like for the program to indicate which of the children are the lineal ancestors of the root person and to display a code to identify whether it's the paternal or maternal line of the root person. In other words, if there are 12 children and you (the root person) are a descendant of two of them, all 12 should be listed (maybe a scroll box?), the lineal ancestors should have arrows like the leftmost person in the pedigree and they should be blue or pink to indicate your paternal or maternal ancestral line. Please? -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul Houston, TX, USA ICQ #73314929 Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW View my American Ancestry at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith **************** FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! http://smithecomservices.tripod.com ***************************************

I agree with Paul's concept. In the Family View screen, some type of indicator of which child(ren) is a "direct line" to the Root Person is needed. The paternal/maternal indicator is a plus. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Smith" <prsmith@pdq.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Software Development Cycle > Since we're doing the annual wish list, I'll add mine again > (maybe it will be a bit higher on the list this year.) > > Following ancestral lines in the pedigree is easy, you just > click on the right arrows until you get to the end of the > chosen line. Following the path back down, however, is a > bit more complex since there can be multiple lines from a > given ancestor. Right now, the only way to know that there > is more than one line is to right click and look at the > 'View relatives' option at each step - a very cumbersome > method. > > Rather than showing just one child in the leftmost position > of the pedigree, I would like for the on-screen pedigree > chart to show a listing of all of the children and I would > like for the program to indicate which of the children are > the lineal ancestors of the root person and to display a > code to identify whether it's the paternal or maternal line > of the root person. In other words, if there are 12 > children and you (the root person) are a descendant of two > of them, all 12 should be listed (maybe a scroll box?), the > lineal ancestors should have arrows like the leftmost person > in the pedigree and they should be blue or pink to indicate > your paternal or maternal ancestral line. > > Please? > > -- Happy Hunting!! -- Paul > Houston, TX, USA > ICQ #73314929 > Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS, > TALBOT,TATE,EVANS > NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, CAPEHART,MORRIS, > MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW > > View my American Ancestry at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paulrsmith > **************** > FREE Credit Card Referral Program. Quick money > AND residual, lifetime income! CHECK IT OUT !! > http://smithecomservices.tripod.com > *************************************** > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

That's what I call an "Easter egg" in my pedigree. It isn't linear, it loops out one way to get to me, and also loops out another. I've always wished for something like you are asking for, only in reverse. When I am on the family screen and clicking to go to the parent several times, I wish "C+" was like HTML and would leave me a highlighted trail. I usually can't remember the exact path back to the person on whom I was working before I had to look at some ancestor for some reason. Norma

Dick You wrote: > Since I prefer to place my sources with the Facts, rather than as a General Source, I would like to see an option to add this to each fact during import. In the event the individual has no facts, then as a General Source. I would like to add my support for this. Fully. Barend J Venter

"James Elting" <James.W.Elting@eltingweb.com> wrote: >Is there a way to identify (in a custom report) all people who have multiple >marriage records? You can do this with a facts usage list from the reports lists tab. Choose the marriage fact and only those with more than one of this fact. Or choose anyone with this fact and compare that with the marriage list from the same menu. Wayne League

At 10:11 PM 8/14/01, Tony Grisolia wrote: >Given that, I'd like to request an easy way to include siblings of >ancestors in an ancestor >wall chart. Another option to check in addition to, "Print birth, >marriage, death info?" and, >"Include photos?" would be great. I've used v.9.02 for several months and >would not >trade it for anything, but a friend with a MAC who uses Reunion can >produce such charts >and they are magnificent. > >Tony Grisolia <<With unbridaled applause from the audience>>

Am I missing something in this thread? What kind of report do you want the "Include Photos" option added to? It is already on the box charts and the hourglass tree charts, in the Books and a few other places. You know, This is a family oriented list, you could get kicked off for using dirty words like "MAC" <};-) Alfred ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Grisolia" <agrisolia@texoma.net> > > > Given that, I'd like to request an easy way to include siblings of ancestors in an ancestor > wall chart. Another option to check in addition to, "Print birth, marriage, death info?" and, > "Include photos?" would be great. I've used v.9.02 for several months and would not > trade it for anything, but a friend with a MAC who uses Reunion can produce such charts > and they are magnificent. > > Tony Grisolia >