At 11:24 AM 8/23/2001 -0500, Alfred Eller wrote: >I think I have figured out why the list is so slow. Ah, no...we're all too busy hurrying up to finish cleaning out the things we've intended to clean up all along (that have mounded) so we can get a good compacted database to transfer to our brand new version...oh the anticipation is dreadful, isn't it:o) Sue <who's waiting as patiently as all the rest...and hoping the UPS man doesn't mind the binoculars>

Thursday Aug 23 -- Snowmen fall from from the sky unassembled .... assembly is up to you.

Hi Alfred, I enjoyed your analog about the donkey. Every time my impatience for V 10.0 to come in gets the best of me, I think about it and laugh. I agree with everybody that this is worse than waiting for Christmas! I'm sure the list will pick back up when V 10 gets into our hands and our computers. Then we will all have questions and new wishes. It's amazing how spoilt we get in such a short time! I wasn't paying enough attention at the version numbers and installed V8. on my new computer instead of V9 and put a gedcom into a new database. What a difference! I'm sure I will be just as spoilt to V10's new features in a month of using it. Laura ---- <I should apologize for my off topic, (and tasteless) attempt at humor. It looks as though nearly everyone has decided to stay quiet rather than take a chance on being the target of my rapier like wit. <GBG> I think I have figured out why the list is so slow. ...... Alfred Eller>

Hmmm...... I leave town for a few days and see what happens? The lack of FO10 turns them into animals, striking out at the FIRST, me. [laughing] Waiting for FO10 is WORSE than Christmas. We KNOW what the present will be and still have to wait until morning. Ggrrrrrrrrrrrr. Oh well. Being a family historian has taught me patience, if I can still find it in the den here. Ted > You keep repeating that last line long enough and finally someone will say > something, like "Why don't you get on with it", or "Give the poor donkey a > drink" > > To which the teller replies, "Patience, you ass!" > ------------------------- > > Not directed to anyone in particular, except that Ted gets picked on for > asking first. I thought of today, being the 20th and the release date and > just knew that someone would mention it. (I actually thought of the story > before Ted's post got here. I am sorry that my mind works that way, I just > can't hepit.) > > You might think this is off subject, but I call it an analogy. > > The Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator > Alfred D Eller > >

I should apologize for my off topic, (and tasteless) attempt at humor. It looks as though nearly everyone has decided to stay quiet rather than take a chance on being the target of my rapier like wit. <GBG> I think I have figured out why the list is so slow. Paul posted a message stating that FOW 10 was in their warehouse, ready for shipping, and everyone is too busy running from the window, watching the driveway for the UPS truck, to the mail box to see if the mailman is coming, then back to check the driveway. After all that, we are all too tired to type anything. Or, have we gotten ALL of the problems solved in the 9 earlier versions. I see that Genealogy.Com has already got a listing for Family Origins Version 10 on their support page at: http://www.genealogy.com/help/ There are quite a few questions, pre answered in their knowledge base (so far they are the same questions as were there for 8 and 9) Always remember and don't ever forget, that there is a FormalSoft Message Board too. http://formalsoft.com/forums/ the Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator Alfred Eller

Alfred Eller wrote: > Then, Paul comes along and makes my last post a lie, even as I was typing > it. Oh well, better to have a new version of Family Origins than to have a > truthful list administrator. > > Now if we could just get some rain here and in the West! ========== Alfred, If we get some rain here in the south, I'll send any extra your way. In the meantime if you want some "snow", take a look at the Genealogy.com commercials on the A&E channel. Jim

In a message dated 8/21/2001 1:39:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, krumbar@home.com writes: > BUT...and this is a BIIIIIIIIIG But ... I got that message, also, and I did > NOT order from Genealogy.com. I ordered from FormalSoft. > > No. I think the person that posted that message was just using it to comment on the fact that the program didn't ship August 20th because it was backordered. - Bruce http://formalsoft.com - Family Origins genealogy software http://family-reunion.com - Plan the perfect family reunion

Whew! Thanks for the quick reply, folks. Had me worried there a minute. Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: <FormalSoft@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE EXPECTED SHIP DATE > In a message dated 8/21/2001 1:39:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > krumbar@home.com writes: > > > BUT...and this is a BIIIIIIIIIG But ... I got that message, also, and I did > > NOT order from Genealogy.com. I ordered from FormalSoft. > > > > > > No. I think the person that posted that message was just using it to comment > on the fact that the program didn't ship August 20th because it was > backordered. > > - Bruce > http://formalsoft.com - Family Origins genealogy software > http://family-reunion.com - Plan the perfect family reunion > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

BUT...and this is a BIIIIIIIIIG But ... I got that message, also, and I did NOT order from Genealogy.com. I ordered from FormalSoft. What gives? Did Bruce have to forward our orders to Genealogy.com? Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Burchfield" <Paul_Burchfield@genealogy.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE EXPECTED SHIP DATE > John, > > Actually, I just learned that the product has been received by our warehouse earlier this morning. This means that orders placed directly through Genealogy.com should start shipping either later this afternoon or tomorrow. > > Sincerely, > Paul Burchfield, Genealogy.com Technical Support > http://www.genealogy.com/help/ > > >>> "John" <jwilkins@twcny.rr.com> 08/21/01 09:04AM >>> > > Thank you again for your recent order! Unfortunately, the following items > are still on backorder: > > > BACKORDERED ITEM(S) QUANTITY EXPECTED SHIP DATE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > > 87058 FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE 1 08/27/01 > > > > Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to call our 24-hour > customer service center at 1-800-548-1806. We at Genealogy.com appreciate > your patience and value your business! > <snip> > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Then, Paul comes along and makes my last post a lie, even as I was typing it. Oh well, better to have a new version of Family Origins than to have a truthful list administrator. Now if we could just get some rain here and in the West! Alfred ========= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Burchfield" <Paul_Burchfield@genealogy.com> > John, > > Actually, I just learned that the product has been received by our warehouse earlier this morning. This means that orders placed directly through Genealogy.com should start shipping either later this afternoon or tomorrow. > > Sincerely, > Paul Burchfield, Genealogy.com Technical Support > http://www.genealogy.com/help/ >

I have no record of ordering this yet. I don't know why I'm receiving an ack etc. Lee Haugen John wrote: > Thank you again for your recent order! Unfortunately, the following items > are still on backorder: > > > BACKORDERED ITEM(S) QUANTITY EXPECTED SHIP DATE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 87058 FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE 1 08/27/01 > > > > Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to call our 24-hour > customer service center at 1-800-548-1806. We at Genealogy.com appreciate > your patience and value your business! > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Thank you again for your recent order! Unfortunately, the following items are still on backorder: BACKORDERED ITEM(S) QUANTITY EXPECTED SHIP DATE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 87058 FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE 1 08/27/01 Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to call our 24-hour customer service center at 1-800-548-1806. We at Genealogy.com appreciate your patience and value your business!

John, Actually, I just learned that the product has been received by our warehouse earlier this morning. This means that orders placed directly through Genealogy.com should start shipping either later this afternoon or tomorrow. Sincerely, Paul Burchfield, Genealogy.com Technical Support http://www.genealogy.com/help/ >>> "John" <jwilkins@twcny.rr.com> 08/21/01 09:04AM >>> Thank you again for your recent order! Unfortunately, the following items are still on backorder: BACKORDERED ITEM(S) QUANTITY EXPECTED SHIP DATE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 87058 FAMO 10.0 UPGRADE 1 08/27/01 Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to call our 24-hour customer service center at 1-800-548-1806. We at Genealogy.com appreciate your patience and value your business! <snip>

Alfred, Dick Thank you for your response to my question. I was just looking for a way to avoid any extra work, I guess I'll have to create a "User defined fact" Dennis at Table Rock e-mail: dting@MonDesir.net Listowner: Guthridge-L@rootsweb.com , Level-L@rootsweb.com & Ting-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [FO] Resided at fact > No, you can't make the Resided fact into a Family fact, but: > > I created a user defined FAMILY fact

"Duane Fronk" <vruggink1@home.com> wrote: >My son in Texas is doing research on the same lines as I am and we are >both entering information into a mutual copy of the same data base in >FO 9. Is there a way that we can each know what new information we >have each entered when we exchange GEDCOM's or backup disks? Or how >should we do this exchange of new information? Any help will be >appreciated. FO10 will automatically keep up with the last date anyone was edited and you will be able to search on the last date edited. So, this kind of project will get easier. (Source, August FO newsletter). Wayne League

As the operation of this feature was explained, a single data element, the date, will be updated every time the Edit Individual window is Saved. No other information, such as what changed or by who, will be recorded. Since the database fact files are updated upon entry and the closing of the facts, usage of the Edit Cancel will not un-do these changes. All the Cancel button will do is prevent the date from being updated. No other changes have been made from the operation in the prior releases. This operation is very similar to how PAF implemented this feature. The date will be updated even if no changes are made to the individual and the Save, not Cancel is used to close the window. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne League" <wleague@mindspring.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Working from two locations on same data base > "Duane Fronk" <vruggink1@home.com> wrote: > > >My son in Texas is doing research on the same lines as I am and we are > >both entering information into a mutual copy of the same data base in > >FO 9. Is there a way that we can each know what new information we > >have each entered when we exchange GEDCOM's or backup disks? Or how > >should we do this exchange of new information? Any help will be > >appreciated. > > FO10 will automatically keep up with the last date anyone was edited > and you will be able to search on the last date edited. So, this kind > of project will get easier. (Source, August FO newsletter). > > Wayne League > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Have you considered dial-up-networking? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Fronk" <vruggink1@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: [FO] Working from two locations on same data base > My son in Texas is doing research on the same lines as I am and we are both entering information into a mutual copy of the same data base in FO 9. Is there a way that we can each know what new information we have each entered when we exchange GEDCOM's or backup disks? Or how should we do this exchange of new information? Any help will be appreciated. > > Duane Fronk > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I am sorry that my mind works that way, I just >can't hepit.) > >You might think this is off subject, but I call it an analogy. > >The Family-Origins-Users-Mailing list administrator >Alfred D Eller Alfred, I guess the List Administrator makes the rules, huh??? David E. Cann decann@infi.net List Administrator Cann surname list on RootsWeb *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/20/2001, at 5:42 PM, prsmith wrote: >RHIP <BWG> > > >>===== Original Message From "Alfred Eller" <adeller@santel.net> ===== >>hello list, >> >>This all reminds me of a story that I heard, way back when Bruce was just a >>baby. >> <clip> David E. Cann decann@infi.net List Administrator Cann surname list on RootsWeb

Yes - create a user defined fact and enter dates and descriptions. Be sure to include initials or some other ID. There is numerous msgs in the archives on this topic. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Fronk" <vruggink1@home.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: [FO] Working from two locations on same data base > My son in Texas is doing research on the same lines as I am and we are both entering information into a mutual copy of the same data base in FO 9. Is there a way that we can each know what new information we have each entered when we exchange GEDCOM's or backup disks? Or how should we do this exchange of new information? Any help will be appreciated. > > Duane Fronk > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

>That "magic" date is when the program is supposed to ship to us (FormalSoft). > We anticipate shipping it by the end of the week. > >- Bruce Booooo, hissssss. I'm gonna hafta wait some more. David <snip> MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann