Dear Listers, I had to recover my computer on sunday night. The person who did this saved all of our important 'stuff' to a CD. This was a direct move of the information from our Family Origins 4.0 programme (amongst others) to the D drive (CD). When we recovered we attempted to put our FO 4.0 into the computer and we got a 'Codebase Error'. I did not panic as my dad runs the same programme. But alas when I tried to import the data to his programme I again got a 'codebase error: 60'. It appears that the direct movement of data now cannot be read by the computer. It was not stored as a gedcom or as a backup. I have older backups I can use, the most recent is May 2001, but we are missing almost 1000 names between that file and the one we have lost. I would appreciate any help or suggestions in how to retrieve the data from the CD. I wait hopefully...with thanks Elizabeth Marshall libby@emunet.com.au

I am using FO8.03 and opened a new data base and imported a GED COM. everything went well except there is double notes on the people that had notes on them. The problem is to edit each of them is not practical as there ore over 65000 in the file. Any suggestions out there, and these are mostly family members. I am open to suggestions. Bryce Hager

At 09:29 AM 8/24/01 Norma wrote: >Go back to DOS programs. Just being silly. > That isn't so silly! I keep FO v3.0a (a DOS version) around for that very reason. Works fine, too, for custom reports with multiple columns- like Surname,Given, Birth Date, Place, Death Date, Place, Marriage Date, Spouse. It takes awhile to design the report but once it's done, you can use it over and over. Charles Gohlke

I was getting ready to go to a large genealogy library for the day and kill my eyes on the microfilm readers, and was looking for some forms for the censuses, so I could fill those in instead of just trying to decipher my usual henscratching, and finally found them available for printing off the internet, but I thought, gee wouldn't it be nice if the census forms were available as one of the options under "forms". (Hint, hint, hint) After all, there are still people out there who don't/can't use the internet. -- Janelle Holmes Wildair Kennels Dripping Springs, TX

Here, everyone is pushing the envelope for Ver 10 and I still can't get the patch for my ver. 8.0 to download. Keep getting an error message telling me it can't find a file that is right there in the folder. Oh well, I've already ordered ver. 10 so will just keep my fingers crossed nothing happens until it gets here! Harold Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil & Sue <genjunky@cancios.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Activity? What activity? > At 11:24 AM 8/23/2001 -0500, Alfred Eller wrote: > >I think I have figured out why the list is so slow. > > Ah, no...we're all too busy hurrying up to finish cleaning out the things > we've intended to clean up all along (that have mounded) so we can get a > good compacted database to transfer to our brand new version...oh the > anticipation is dreadful, isn't it:o) > > Sue <who's waiting as patiently as all the rest...and hoping the UPS man > doesn't mind the binoculars> > > ______________________________

Chabar59@aol.com wrote: >I created a new temporary database so I could restore an old database file to >check finformation. The information did not restore so I decided to delete >the temp database. When I tried to open the file to delete I get this message: > > Error # -64 . . . . . You don't need a new database to restore into. When you restore a backed up database, it creates anew, the database that was backed up and it will have the same name it had originally. Or it will over-write and replace the existing database you may still have with the same name. The name of the database is contained within the backup file and you cannot change that until after it is restored. If you want to look at an old version of your existing database without destroying your existing database then you must restore it to a different folder. So the database you restored may have restored OK and it just has a different name than you expected (it's original name). But none of that should have caused your new temporary database to go bad. I don't know what caused that. You may have to use windows explorer to delete all 35 files that make up that database in order to get rid of it. Perhaps an easier method to do that would be a procedure like this: 1. Create still another new database with the same name as the problem db in a different folder. 2. Backup the new, empty database and then delete it. 3. Restore the new database to the folder where the problem db is so that it over-writes and replaces the bad database. 4. Now you can open the newly restored db in FO and delete it too. Wayne League

"Patrick McDonald" <patrick@aussiehobbies.com.au> wrote: >Whenever I try to export to a GEDCOM, FO stops after processing about 400 >entries into my 17,000 person database, and gives the error message: In older versions of FO this would be caused by having a long line with no spaces in it in a source or in a note. A line such as a long URL to a website or a dividing line in a note like this: =================================================================================== Breaking the line up with spaces would solve the hang-up problem. This problem has been fixed in the later versions of FO. There have been a few other irregularities that would cause a gedcom export or import to hang the computer, but I don't remember what all they were. If you can't find a long line then you might try finding that 17000th person where the hangup occurs. You know you've found the right one if you leave him out of the gedcom export and then the gedcom exports OK. If you can't see anything unusual about his entry then you might just delete him completely and re-enter him. That would fix an unseen irregularity. Wayne League

lets get politically correct here. SNOWPERSON!!! -----Original Message----- From: mbraden [mailto:maybe@pdq.net] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:38 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FO] My copy of v 10 arrived in the mail today. Yes! but some of us build much nicer snowmen then others. Good luck with yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hedberg" <hedberg@attglobal.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: [FO] My copy of v 10 arrived in the mail today. > Thursday Aug 23 > > -- > Snowmen fall from from the sky unassembled .... assembly is up to you. > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

SNOW in August??? Not here in the Washington, D. C. area <g>. With our typical heat and humidity, snow is the LAST thing in the world we are worried about. Now then, my Family Origins 10. . . . . . . . . Our mail man (actually, mail woman) is due in an hour or so, so I better go stand at the mailbox with my binoculars. . . . . . . Hope she doesn't fun over me <g>. Today is my birthday (NEVER MIND how many!!!), too, so it would be a nice present from Bruce. David *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/24/2001, at 11:50 AM, mbraden wrote: >Yes! but some of us build much nicer snowmen then others. Good luck with >yours. > <clip> MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann

OF COURSE! My memory is getting to have so many holes in it that it must look like Swiss Cheese. I tried highlighting the folder, and that only took the attribute away from the folder itself. I don't know about some people! Alfred. ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> > There is a way to change the attribute of all files in a directory (folder). > Open Explorer and move to the directory in question. > Highlight all the files by selecting the first, scroll to the bottom, hold > down the shift key and select the last one. > Either click the "properties" icon on the toolbar or right click on any > highlighted file and choose "properties". > Uncheck the attributes you don't want. > Click OK. > > Norma >

This is my biggest criticism now. I really WISH it could be fixed. Unfortunately, the notes would have to accept tabs. I put the census reports in my database too. The only things I have been able to do are: 1. Line it up with spaces as best I can and know they will waver. 2. Enter the material with a comma after each piece of information. 3. Enter the Census information in a word processor so you can use tabs. Unfortunately, then when the information is printed to screen and then printed, each tab shows up a a hollow square. If you don't mind it on your family group sheets or reports straight from FO, then it should work. Anything you save to file and then printed in a program that uses tabs works fine. I tried to use the numberical keyboard to enter ascii character codes, but that didn't seem to work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Frame" <saframe@centurytel.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: [FO] Alignment in Notes > Morning Group... > > I have a question about alignment in notes. > > When typing in information into the NOTES area (like Census info) where > I want to have rows and columns, things just do not line up nicely. > Does anyone have a suggestion for this? > > Shirley > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Don't know what I did but, I did something wrong. I created a new temporary database so I could restore an old database file to check finformation. The information did not restore so I decided to delete the temp database. When I tried to open the file to delete I get this message: Error # -64 Error #. 90615 File found erroropening file file4open C:\programfiles\parsonstechnology\familyorigin\Smithp.dbf click o.k. Error # -935 Error # 94001 Null infput parameter unexpected d4file click o.k. Program error exiting application Please help and I promise I will never do that again. I am using Ver 9.02 thanks in advance for any help Barb

Yes! but some of us build much nicer snowmen then others. Good luck with yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hedberg" <hedberg@attglobal.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: [FO] My copy of v 10 arrived in the mail today. > Thursday Aug 23 > > -- > Snowmen fall from from the sky unassembled .... assembly is up to you. > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

At 08:19 AM 8/24/01 -0500, Alfred Eller wrote: >Directly from the Genealogy.com knowledge base for Family Origins. > >"Error -60 means Family Origins couldn't open one of the files. This could >be because the file doesn't exist, two copies of the database are trying to >be opened at the same time, or the data is corrupt. If the first two items >are ruled out then the data is probably corrupt. Try the following: " > >--------- > >Since you copied the information from a CD, it is possible that the read >only attribute is set and Family Origins needs read and write access to it's >files. > >Good Luck, >Alfred I think the problem is that the read only attribute is set. I have had this happen to me also. Windows seems to have a very nasty habit of setting the read only attribute on files that are copied to a CD. Then when you copy the files back to your hard drive, the attribute is still set to read only, so you have to reset it on all files. ======================================== Charles R. Weese, 4012 Pardee Rd., Stow, Ohio 44224 See http://web.raex.com/~cweese/weese/ and http://web.raex.com/~cweese/vance/ for my family info. I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm

Go back to DOS programs. Just being silly. This is caused by all those lovely proportional fonts we all like to use. Size of a letter or space is based on the letter used or the letters bracketing the space. I haven't found any way to consistently have things turn out OK, except to load the report into a word processor and turn the data into a table. Norma

There is a way to change the attribute of all files in a directory (folder). Open Explorer and move to the directory in question. Highlight all the files by selecting the first, scroll to the bottom, hold down the shift key and select the last one. Either click the "properties" icon on the toolbar or right click on any highlighted file and choose "properties". Uncheck the attributes you don't want. Click OK. Norma

From your message, I am not sure what FO files you actually have on your cd. A regular FO database has 35 files (at least in the later versions). From a version 5 I have on an old computer, it looks like it has 28 files. I would guess that if he saved all of your files, you must have the regular backup that you would have made each time you exited your computer. If what you have done so far does not work, I would look for that one file and try a restore into FO. The current backups have an extension filename.zip. I do not remember what it was in version 4. It was zip for version 5. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil & Elizabeth Marshall" <libby@emunet.com.au> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: [FO] Lost Information > Dear Listers, > > I had to recover my computer on sunday night. The person who did this saved all of our important 'stuff' to a CD. This was a direct move of the information from our Family Origins 4.0 programme (amongst others) to the D drive (CD). When we recovered we attempted to put our FO 4.0 into the computer and we got a 'Codebase Error'. I did not panic as my dad runs the same programme. But alas when I tried to import the data to his programme I again got a 'codebase error: 60'. > > It appears that the direct movement of data now cannot be read by the computer. It was not stored as a gedcom or as a backup. > > I have older backups I can use, the most recent is May 2001, but we are missing almost 1000 names between that file and the one we have lost. > > I would appreciate any help or suggestions in how to retrieve the data from the CD. > > I wait hopefully...with thanks > > Elizabeth Marshall > libby@emunet.com.au > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for ordering information. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Directly from the Genealogy.com knowledge base for Family Origins. "Error -60 means Family Origins couldn't open one of the files. This could be because the file doesn't exist, two copies of the database are trying to be opened at the same time, or the data is corrupt. If the first two items are ruled out then the data is probably corrupt. Try the following: " --------- Since you copied the information from a CD, it is possible that the read only attribute is set and Family Origins needs read and write access to it's files. Find the Family Origins files on the hard drive with Windows Explorer, or the Windows Find utility, right click on one of them and select properties. Near the bottom of the properties dialogue, check the attributes, there should be no checkmark in front of "Read Only", if there is, click there to remove it. (There must be a way to do a batch of these all at once in Windows, but I can't think of it.) So, I would have to use the ATTRIB command in DOS or undo the read attribute of one file at a time for all 35 files in the database. (Maybe the Windows help files? - No, only one file or folder at a time.) Good Luck, Alfred ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil & Elizabeth Marshall" <libby@emunet.com.au> > Dear Listers, > > I had to recover my computer on sunday night. The person who did this saved all of our important 'stuff' to a CD. This was a direct move of the information from our Family Origins 4.0 programme (amongst others) to the D drive (CD). When we recovered we attempted to put our FO 4.0 into the computer and we got a 'Codebase Error'. I did not panic as my dad runs the same programme. But alas when I tried to import the data to his programme I again got a 'codebase error: 60'. > > It appears that the direct movement of data now cannot be read by the computer. It was not stored as a gedcom or as a backup. > > I have older backups I can use, the most recent is May 2001, but we are missing almost 1000 names between that file and the one we have lost. > > I would appreciate any help or suggestions in how to retrieve the data from the CD. > > I wait hopefully...with thanks > > Elizabeth Marshall > libby@emunet.com.au

Morning Group... I have a question about alignment in notes. When typing in information into the NOTES area (like Census info) where I want to have rows and columns, things just do not line up nicely. Does anyone have a suggestion for this? Shirley

Hooray! Maybe I'll get mine today, Hope hope hope. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hedberg" <hedberg@attglobal.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: [FO] My copy of v 10 arrived in the mail today. > Thursday Aug 23 > > -- > Snowmen fall from from the sky unassembled .... assembly is up to you. > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Very basic Windows: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/created4/COMPUTERBASICS.html > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >